Liberty Cove/Coastal Highway update

[jerry]

Well sort of. This came to me from one of the sales dudes who was trying to sell me some type of "Green Stuff" investment opportunity.Man they are in trouble if they are counting on me!

As you may recall, I represented Liberty Cove Mexico for a few years. Since I always put my money where my mouth is, I invested $100,000 of my own funds right alongside of my investors. While I’ve not been with the project for over a year now, I continue to follow it from the outside. The project is alive and moving forward, and most recent news that 1) the $15 million coast highway is now 70% completed across the Liberty Cove property, with paving being done this month at the main entrance. And that 2) CEO Craig Ricketts has recently returned from New York, where based upon the Mexican government’s current initiatives, he was able to receive commitments from two private sources totaling approx. $25 million.

[jerry]

Wow they are borrowing a whole 25 million dollars! I think the battleship has been sunk but no one wants to tell the investors.

[Stuart]

Good for your investment; bad for the environment and the native Seri. Still planning on the Monaco-style Grand Prix race track? And the huge marina? From what I recall of the early Liberty Cove advertisements (yeah, the "poster in the trailer" only on the Internet these days), this whole project was so way out of scale and far-fetched it was hard to imagine it ever becoming a reality.

[Wood Spinner]

You never know about things. As a boy I remember the bay area in Newport Beach california from the highway bridge back, was a swamp. Now a multi billion area.

[gringo]

Can anyone give me precise directions to PP from Los Angeles via the new Coastal Hwy? Google Maps doesn't seem to be updated, and I can't seem to find it anywhere else online.

Thanks,

Gringo

[Jim]

Gringo, From Yuma, Cross into San Luis and then follow the directions in this link. Hopefully it will work. http://www.penascorecreation.com/RoadLog_files/Page300.htm

[jerry]

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For Yuma-area residents looking for relaxation by the ocean, the community of El Golfo about 90 miles south of here in Mexico is a popular destination, so the recent opening of a shorter route to get there is welcome news.

Now, however, some concern is being raised about the new shortcut to the fishing community located at the northern edge of the Sea of Cortez because it involves a toll highway. Residents and merchants in El Golfo feel the toll - equivalent to about $7 in U.S. currency - is too high and will discourage visitors from coming down.

They are demanding that the state of Sonora reduce the toll for the highway, which begins south of San Luis Rio Colorado, Son., and goes south to El Golfo then on the Rocky Point (Puerto Penasco). Supporters of the lower toll are apparently ready to blockade the road in a protest if necessary.

We would be more understanding of this dispute if the only option was to pay the toll, but that is not the case.

Drivers have a choice. They can pay to use the new road which provides a much improved roadway and cuts about a half hour off the trip, or they can use the existing public highway that takes longer and is less improved.

Roadways are not free. When Mexican officials decided to provide a more convenient road to El Golfo they chose to make the users of the road - probably many of them from the United States - pay for the convenience. After all, Mexican taxpayers are already paying to maintain one public road to El Golfo.

But there is a way to avoid paying anything at all - just use the old route.
In the end, it will be up to the drivers to decide whether they value convenience or money. That's often the choice with toll roads.

[jerry]

The above was from the Yuma Sun.

[La Pequena Hermana]

Straight down the 5 to the 8 to Gila Bend to Ajo to Gringo Pass to R.P. ( The best so far, from Temecula)
We tried the "Coastal" from Yuma and the roads were real bad for quite a while.
Granted, this was 1 1/2 years ago. But some BIG holes so just be careful!

[PintoPoint]

We took the new toll road this week end and it was perfect. Very fast. Starts about three miles east of San Luis crossing on HWY 2. Took it both ways. Much better/faster heading to Rocky Point. The toll road drops you just ahead of the federal check point.

[jerry]

http://picasaweb.google.com/cimarronbayranch/CIRIOTrees# cool pictures from Libertad area
http://picasaweb.google.com/cimarronbayranch/SheepHuntAtCimarronBayRanch#

[asprinkles]

Jerry, is the road totally done to libertad? Leigh

[jerry]

Hey Leigh, I'm going down on the 2nd and will check it out.They were 15 miles south of your place 6 weeks ago.I can't wait to see the boojum trees http://www.oceanoasis.org/fieldguide/fouq-col.html

Jerry, is the road totally done to libertad? Leigh
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[InkaRoads]

Nice pics Jerry, was that ram by St. Tomas?

[Seadweller]

Jerry, is the road totally done to libertad? Leigh

Leigh... when Rick and I went freediving in front of your place, we headed that way, we didn't go all the way to libertad because Ricks gas guage doesn't work and we weren't sure how much further we could go but we were over 15 miles from your place and there was a lot of beautiful new smooth road...

[asprinkles]

cool, I knew they were still going I was just wondering if they finally arrived, Hey I'll be down for thanksgiving if anyone wants to stop down , Leigh

[jerry]

No those are from a development/hunting preserve(my guess) South of Libertad named Cimmaron Bay Ranch
http://www.uslandandranches.com/USLandandRanches/states/mexico.html Looks like another pipe dream...but I'd be glad to be surprised.

Nice pics Jerry, was that ram by St. Tomas?

[jerry]

Leigh... when Rick and I went freediving in front of your place, we headed that way, we didn't go all the way to libertad because Ricks gas guage doesn't work and we weren't sure how much further we could go but we were over 15 miles from your place and there was a lot of beautiful new smooth road...
Damn, same thing with my gas gage or i would have kept going on the gravel after the pavement ended..15 mile mark
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[asprinkles]

You can always buy gas at the main store on the beach in Lobos . It cost about 10 pesos/ liter, but you can still get it. Leigh

[happylaker]

This is to Jerry, can you still talk about this project - Liberty Cove? Just interested. If you can, send me a message.

[jerry]

I know a
This is to Jerry, can you still talk about this project - Liberty Cove? Just interested. If you can, send me a message.

I know a guy in Tucson that was the translator for them...some interesting stuff but I'm in brush cutting as the fire approaches us...looking pretty good for us fire wise if i do say so!

[jerry]

Just thought I'd mention to the great work of the fire crews.Last night at dusk 100 plus went by my place and set up in a Canyon above us.They worked all night by the full moon and most likely saved my place,30 retreat cabins and Fort Bowie ....

[asprinkles]

Where is it that your house is at. We have some land in Nutrioso and found out all is good. Sorry for the hijacked thread. Leigh

[Mentiras y Traición]

Just be careful!


Just thought I'd mention to the great work of the fire crews.Last night at dusk 100 plus went by my place and set up in a Canyon above us.They worked all night by the full moon and most likely saved my place,30 retreat cabins and Fort Bowie ....

[jerry]

https://picasaweb.google.com/corvidsupply/PuertoLibertadSonoraMexico?authkey=Gv1sRgCOeQzo709 tObrwE

Pictures of Puerto Libertad.I heard the Liberty Cove project is dead for now.They are not selling lots anymore...The proposed biodeisel plant is a pretty cool idea
http://www.tierramerica.info/nota.php?lang=eng&idnews=3252 the blend of new tech and old power plants may get us someplace

[jerry]

http://www.biofields.com/index.php?lang=es

[MIRAMAR]

Nice pictures- I was surprised Libertad didn't look as big as Penasco, and had fewer trees. But the Playa looked beautiful (minus the gas line).

[brokenwave]

Nice pic's. I've never been to Libertad, Lobos is as close as it's been for me. Reminds me a bit of San Carlos. What is left to do on the new road? I drove to Desemboque in Feb. 2011. Planning a trip tp San Carlos this fall.
Thx

[jerry]

Nice pic's. I've never been to Libertad, Lobos is as close as it's been for me. Reminds me a bit of San Carlos. What is left to do on the new road? I drove to Desemboque in Feb. 2011. Planning a trip tp San Carlos this fall.
Thx

I didn't go past Libertad but the road is a older paved road leading out of town South....I heard you can go all the way to Kino now

[mis2810]

So pretty - it reminds me of El Golfo.

[jerry]

http://www.elimparcial.com/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/08062011/521017.aspx they are in the money///or at least h2o

[Roberto]

Hey Jer;

How far down the coast to pick up the highway and any of the coastal highway done up the coast from Desemboque?

[jerry]

the new road construction starts at the big curve about 10 miles east of Santo Tomas but the first 2 miles an the new overpass are not quite done.You take a dirt road along the route for a bit then as you approach the Ejido Obregon (Santo Tomas turnoff) the road is done all the way to Libertad
Hey Jer;

How far down the coast to pick up the highway and any of the coastal highway done up the coast from Desemboque?