What a hastle today

[Wood Spinner]

Again we came back today and got the same hassle we got a couple of weeks ago. Pulled out of line to go to X-Ray machine, sent to stand in the shade while they inspected. Edna got a cell call and was talking when a lady came by and ask if she had been given permission to use the cell, she said no and was told ,quite impolitely to "hang up" so she did. No sign anywhere that says no cell use. After about 20 min I ask if I could start the truck so cat would be cool. Told emphatically no and to go get the cat. Then they sent us inside to wait while they finished the inspection. Not one to the people was courteous or informative. We had about 1 and 1/2 hour wait while they did there thing Finally said ok to go. I ask for the supervisor and explained to him the lack of courtesy with his people and he said he would handle it. When I got ready to go I checked the two front auto seats I had had upholstered and one of them had oil on it. Back to the office and the supervisor I went. He brought me a form and said to have them cleaned and his office would pay for it.

[fatboyharley]

Since 911 use of cell phones while at the border has been prohibited A least they did not take them I can't remember the web site to go to that talks about cell phone use. They feel that you could be plotting a bombing or terrioist attack as the rationale

[beachgirl]

For crying out loud.........what the hell is going on? I don't know anything about how things technically work at the border, but I would assume they know how many times a person has crossed at that particular border (wouldn't they keep this info in their data bank?) Do they really think that Bill and his wife have recently decided to start a smuggling operation? And if cell phones are a no-no, then they should have a sign that says so. No problem. It's just really starting to chap my hide that you have to go through all the B.S. on both sides now.
Bill, what was the oil from?

[dmcauley]

If they asked me if I had permission I would have said yes and please treat me with due respect A--Hole. Certain inspectors are on a power trip and need to be put in their place. When asked yesterday at the second stop I told them I was coming from Mexico and when asked where I was headed I pointed at my mirror compass and told him north. I would like to know exactly why Bill was stopped twice. This is abuse. I have never had that type of search in over 25 years and I don't feel they should be targeting seniors.

[Wood Spinner]

The oil must have come from the inspection tube the put into the fuel tank.

[jerry]

Old Anglo couples are being stopped quite a bit near my ranch in South East Az. if they have older pickups or RV's They are the hotest mules on the market.

[Wood Spinner]

I did get one of the forms they have to fill out about this stuff. It says to send it to Michigan or some place like that. Does anyone know the AZ top guys name and where to reach him or her ? I would like to talk to that person.

[Terry C]

Press OfficeName :Brian Levin, OFO Office of Public Affairs LiaisonAddress :4740 N. Oracle Road
Room 310
Tucson, AZ 85705Phone520) 407-2319, (800) 973-2867Fax520) 407-2350
or

Customer Service CenterPhone Number 703) 526-4200, (877) CBP-5511
or
Location Address:Highway 85 & Border
Lukeville, AZ 85341Mailing Address:PO Box C
Lukeville, AZ 85341General Phone520) 387-5671General Fax520) 387-5309

[Wood Spinner]

What I want is the hauncho for all of the state of AZ or even better for this region.
I don't want to talk to some ninnie who is paid to smooth feathers of the upset.

[Terry C]

Well,,,,when you find them, tell them to update the wait page on the hour not every 3-6 hours
Almost 6:00 PM monday now
Site says
At 2pm MST
25 min delay
3 lane(s) open

[Wood Spinner]

I can't believe that no one knows who the boss is

[rockyptjoe]

I can't believe that no one knows who the boss is
Come on Bill....do a little research on the Customs and Border Patrol website.....is this guy high enough for you?:roll::evil:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/about/organization/assist_comm_off/field_operations.xml

Also, try this page...gives the Tucson Sector contact points for the Border Patrol:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/border_patrol_sectors/tucson_sector_az/tucson_general.xml

And more...probably the best one....
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/cmcs/cmc_arizona.xml

[AZ Miguel]

Why bother, they're just doing their job. Get over it and move on to something productive.

[ernesto]

That's the problem. I spoke to a Port Supervisor once and he said there is little supervision on Sundays. I came back last Monday. Normally on a Sunday the wait from the Buen Viaje sign is an hour or so on a Sunday now, last Monday they were humpin'. Took only 15 minutes. I think some complaints about them NOT doing their jobs on Sundays might help.

[Wood Spinner]

AZ Miguel
If we all took that attitude our government wood simply run over us. Don't complaign or give a word of thanks and nothing gets done because nobody cares. I do care.

[Wahoo]

What I want is the hauncho for all of the state of AZ or even better for this region.
I don't want to talk to some ninnie who is paid to smooth feathers of the upset.


Write Napolitano


Arizona

Gilbert M. Orrantia
Director
Arizona Department of Homeland Security
1700 West Washington Street, #210
Phoenix, AZ 85007
602-542-7030

With CC:

To reach the Secretary

Secretary Janet Napolitano
Department of Homeland Security
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
Washington, DC 20528

[Wood Spinner]

Thanks Wahoo. That is what I wanted

[rockyptjoe]

Thanks Wahoo. That is what I wanted
Bill, knowing how goverment offices operate, that info is just a bit high up in the food chain....

Try:
David Higgerson
520-407-2325

He's head of the Field Operations Office out of Tucson, responsible for the Points of entry including Lukeville....

[Kenny]

Bill, knowing how goverment offices operate, that info is just a bit high up in the food chain....

Try:
David Higgerson
520-407-2325

He's head of the Field Operations Office out of Tucson, responsible for the Points of entry including Lukeville....

OK, Joe, I've been teasing you for some time about the problems you have had at the border in the past, and this right here is a perfect opening for one, but I'm going to let it slide..If you give me a update on the vehicle you will be driving, so I can make sure I don't get behind you on the way out.;)

[rockyptjoe]

OK, Joe, I've been teasing you for some time about the problems you've had at the border in the past, and this right here is a perfect opening for one, but I'm going to let it slide..If you give me a update on the vehicle you will be driving, so I can make sure I don't get behind you on the way out.;)
Kenny....I haven't been having "problems" at the border, other than when I was transporting diesel when the prices were aproaching $5...and my problem was with ADOT!!! Everything else was minor issues....the long delays, or one or two "idiot" customs inspectors, who must have been twiddling their thumbs (or something else) in the booth, and not calling up the next vehicle for 10 minutes, the twenty questions, etc.

The "problems" I've been addressing here are Bill Hales, having to get x-rayed twice.....

But if you're concerned, I drive a blue Dodge diesel extended cab.....

[Kenny]

Kenny....I haven't been having "problems" at the border, other than when I was transporting diesel when the prices were aproaching $5...and my problem was with ADOT!!! Everything else was minor issues....the long delays, or one or two "idiot" customs inspectors, who must have been twiddling their thumbs (or something else) in the booth, and not calling up the next vehicle for 10 minutes, the twenty questions, etc.

The "problems" I've been addressing here are Bill Hales, having to get x-rayed twice.....

But if you're concerned, I drive a blue Dodge diesel extended cab.....

I know that, but I thought we've both had a little fun with it..There was a wink.:notworthy:

[Wood Spinner]

Rockypointjoe
I ended with a fellow named Bill Johnson who is the program manager over all of the local ports of entry. He said he would get back with me in a couple of days after a full investigation. I questioned him that the border people say it is a spare fuel tank thing and I stated that if the bad guys know they check these tanks wouldn't they put drugs in a gas tank on any vehicle and not these. No comment ! Seemed sincere but don't all public relations people? I will continue to report

[Wood Spinner]

Well we came back across today with no hassle. Total time may be 6 Min.
Mr. Bill Johnston never did get back with me as he said he would. Oh well----
The guy on the gate told me there was no special information on my file as the Rep. a couple of weeks back told me there would be. Small man on the gate could not smile if he was told to. I am beginning to they teach "RUDE" in their training program.

[cactusamigo]

While traveling south to Penasco, I pulled over in the shade of UETA to call my wife before crossing the border. While talking on my cel phone, a husky, BCP agent yelled at me from over the fence: "Turn off your cel phone, you are in an inspection zone!".

My Reply: "Excuse me, I'm on private property". The parking lot is private property belonging to Gringo Pass. U.S. Government agents have no authority to control cel phone use on private property.

Her Reply: "I can hear you talking".

My Reply: "Then don't listen, and mind your own business. I assure you that my cel phone will be off when I enter your inspection zone".

When I entered the "inspection zone", she stayed far from my car.

Cel phones are not permitted to be used in the border inspection zones, mainly to not divert attention from, and interfere with the screening process, which is understandable.

[jerry]

Cactus, women hate to be called "husky" .I think your anger with the American police state is misdirected.If the Chamber of Commerce,the NRA and the ACLU all would have gone along with a national identity card that would be required for any interaction with government or business there would be no illegal aliens taking a crap in my barn.
You also must admit that marrying a person of another race or nationality creates complications.You figure these in when you make your choice but it was your choice and you just have to fight the power more than most of us do and quit blaming the problem on Obama.

[La Huerita]

Cel phones are not permitted to be used in the border inspection zones, mainly to not divert attention from, and interfere with the screening process, which is understandable.

Actually, the ban on cell phones near border inspection zones is to keep smugglers/potential terrorists from alerting their cohorts to the current situations at the borders so they'll know when it might be safe to try to cross, etc. At least, that's what a BCP agent told me.

[rockyptjoe]

Actually, the ban on cell phones near border inspection zones is to keep smugglers/potential terrorists from alerting their cohorts to the current situations at the borders so they'll know when it might be safe to try to cross, etc. At least, that's what a BCP agent told me.
That's a real bogus argument....you can just walk over to the the duty free or the gas station and make a call there!! If they're so concerned about it, they should use a cell phone jammer around the customs station

[jerry]

That's a real bogus argument....you can just walk over to the the duty free or the gas station and make a call there!! If they're so concerned about it, they should use a cell phone jammer around the customs station

If you ban cell phones it will just make the cartel use their secret comunications weapon

http://images.google.com/images?rlz=1C1CHNB_enUS338US338&sourceid=chrome&q=mimes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

[Mentiras y Traición]

If you ban cell phones it will just make the cartel use their secret comunications weapon

http://images.google.com/images?rlz=1C1CHNB_enUS338US338&sourceid=chrome&q=mimes&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi

Jerry...:wink: remember, if you need help, just call. I think it's getting close. We're here for you, buddy!

[La Pequena Hermana]

Kinda scary Jerry:eek3: in a funny kind a way!!:wink::wink:

[La Huerita]

That's a real bogus argument....you can just walk over to the the duty free or the gas station and make a call there!! If they're so concerned about it, they should use a cell phone jammer around the customs station

I never said I thought it was a good argument. In fact the whole new protocol thing at the border (which started under Bush, btw), including the rfd chip in the passport, ticks me off. If you never had any issues pre-Obama you were luckier than me and Mr. Huerita.

Ah, for the good old days...

[garyd]

Last night at 6:30 ish two guys walked up to cross the border as we waited for our guys to ask us if we had guns. Well I do not know why but these two guys got questioned by our guys onthe US side and they took off running towards the border wit US and Mexican agents chasing them. Anybody there at that time?

[Roberto]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:That was me and Kenny, we just couldn't wait to get to La Pinta and fish.

[Wood Spinner]

Well I guess he was correct. The fellow, Bill Johnson, from the Tucson office made me very aware that he was not a PR person but a Program Manager for this sector or something. He promised that he would get back with me by E-Mail in a few days. Well, SEVERAL weeks have gon by and NOTHING. For sure not a PR person and not good at keeping his word either.
Our tax dollars resting.

[rockyptjoe]

Well I guess he was correct. The fellow, Bill Johnson, from the Tucson office made me very aware that he was not a PR person but a Program Manager for this sector or something. He promised that he would get back with me by E-Mail in a few days. Well, SEVERAL weeks have gon by and NOTHING. For sure not a PR person and not good at keeping his word either.
Our tax dollars resting.


Bill..Bill...Bill....now aren't we exagerrating a bit???? The following was posted by you on 10-29-09:


Rockypointjoe
I ended with a fellow named Bill Johnson who is the program manager over all of the local ports of entry. He said he would get back with me in a couple of days after a full investigation. I questioned him that the border people say it is a spare fuel tank thing and I stated that if the bad guys know they check these tanks wouldn't they put drugs in a gas tank on any vehicle and not these. No comment ! Seemed sincere but don't all public relations people? I will continue to report

Not being apologetic for Johnson, but you're dealing with the GOVERNMENT!!!!;-);-);-)

[beachgirl]

One second can seem like several weeks to your average law abiding, tax paying citizen who wants nothing more than to spend a relaxing time in RP without being hasseled at the border either way.

[rockyptjoe]

One second can seem like several weeks to your average law abiding, tax paying citizen who wants nothing more than to spend a relaxing time in RP without being hasseled at the border either way.
Naw.....I think it's a matter of loosing sense of time as you get older...and increased impatience!! :lol::evil::stir: I've noticed that in myself too....

[mexmac]

Isn't it wonderful to be a citizen of the country with the most freedoms in the world only be treated like a common criminal. I have to believe that the agents along the border are instructed to be the way they are.

[Kenny]

Today I learned that the boys still have the balls to take on washed up man - rhymes with bunts.I also learned that I CANT WAIT TO BE A STEP-FATHER
Some of your post's are sure hard to decifer, do you speak Welsh?

Kenny

[Stuart]

No, he speaks "deleted."

[Kenny]

No, he speaks "deleted."
They do now :lol:... I remembered his earlier post, and a term and phrase they used was Welsh. I thought they might have originally been from whales, or England, or their family had.
Kenny