Interesting twist on illegal immigration

[BeachMom]

http://www2.islandpacket.com/blogs/post/32726

I recieved this from a friend of mine... interesting read.

**on edit: Don't kill the messenger. Just posting an interesting read and different aspect of immigration. :D

[Ladyjeeper]

Well, this ought to be interesting. I'm getting the popcorn! :mrgreen:

[azbeachboy]

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[Submarine]

I figured that would happen. It was interesting that the street urchin that washed my windows in Sonoyta from my return trip last time spoke perfect english and said he was from America.

[cactusamigo]

The law requires that no one be turned away from a medical facility requiring emergency treatment or a woman in labor. I have no argument with that law. However, three Urgent Care facilities on the south part of Tucson had to close because of the number of illegal aliens who walked away from their bills. I would like to see any poster who is so sympathetic toward illegal aliens to sign up to pay the medical bills for just one illegal alien. Since most have fictitious ID, it is impossible to track down deadbeats who skip on their bills. I pay $300/month for $5000 annual deductable health insurance for my wife and son, while illegals get free medical care through taxpayer supported AHCCCS. This last legislative session, the AZ legislature didn't have guts to pass legislation to require legal resident status in order to receive state welfare. As outrageous as this is, it is even less tolerable with the current state of the economy.

[Ladyjeeper]

Cactus,
What kind of "state welfare" are you referring to?

[Jeff]

:o

[dmcauley]

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:eek3: :boat:

[jerry]

http://www.latimes.com/la-spw-olywrestl ... 4793.story (http://www.latimes.com/la-spw-olywrestling20-2008aug20,0,7484793.story)

Fox news must have hated this one!

[InkaRoads]

http://www.latimes.com/la-spw-olywrestling20-2008aug20,0,7484793.story

Fox news must have hated this one!

I like your hook Jerry, so will there be any complains Cactus? I mean isn't he the result of illegals/undocumented foreigners that you always complain about, oh!! wait a second he was born in the USA therefore he does not qualify!!! bla,bla,bla
So Cactus for your information usually what you hear is all about the bad, the ugly and the corrupted very seldom you hear about the good deeds done by also illegals/undocumented people in USA not all are criminals.
Please look at your family tree and you will fine that one time or another some one was also illegal or undocumented coming to this country (with or with out immigration laws, do not hide behind them), that used to belong to the native americans, there were no whities here or in America period (North, Central and South) we all whities came from Europe!!! (I say "we" if you look at me you think I am as american as it gets until I start speaking)
If you do not believe look at North, Central and South American history prior to Cristobal Colon's discovery of the new world!!!!
I am getting tired of hearing you bad mouth everybody, generalizing puts you in the same boat as the criminals!!!!!
Isn't your wife latino? if she a bad person? cause' I bet you that if she was not married to you and you ask her if she would go to USA illegaly to find a better life she probably say "YES!!!!"
some food for thought :eek3:

[Ladyjeeper]

Cactus,
I'm still waiting for the answer to my question....What kind of "state welfare" are you referring to? :?

[JustGiveMeSol]

And where did the "natives" come from......is it possible that they came from somewhere else too....like Asia????

I love when people argue "apples and oranges" and get sanctimonious about it......there are laws.....including immigration laws. Break them and get caught...then expect to pay the consequences.

If you read the article that was posted, you can infer that the mother of the wrestler is now "legal"...thru whatever means it happened....since they were talking about her not traveling to see her son wrestle, and the reason for it....it wasn't the lack of her ability to get "papers" (you know, like a passport) to travel.

I don't post much on here or other forums because you always get a bunch of people who don't know squat about an issue but love to gang up and dump on someone who has a different opinion.

BTW...I happen to be one of those LEGAL immigrants to this great country....the U.S.A!!! I also became a citizen at the first opportunity that I could.

[dmcauley]

:boat: :boat:

[Kenny]

Don't worry about Cactus my friend. :arrow: I know Cactus and he's just regrouping and will not go down without a fight. That's one thing I respect about Cactus, he will stand up for what he believes, whether he's right or wrong :roll: . Couldn't help it Cactus, I just had to throw the right or wrong part in..LOL
:lol: Kenny

[InkaRoads]

........I don't post much on here or other forums because you always get a bunch of people who don't know squat about an issue but love to gang up and dump on someone who has a different opinion.

BTW...I happen to be one of those LEGAL immigrants to this great country....the U.S.A!!! I also became a citizen at the first opportunity that I could.

JGMS I guess you do not really know Cactus, I am just bringing a point to someone that no matter what believe that an illegals/undocumented person is a bad/criminal person, besides an immigration law being broken, he talks of all as criminals, so now you are a US citizen, as I am too, but are you a criminal because you were illegal/undocumented once upon a time, I hope not and when you were illegal did you broke any laws other than inmigration laws? I hope you did not I know I did not?
OH and by the way when the first people came east to what now is known as USA (Alaska), across the Bering straight, there were no laws to be broken, better yet there were no boundries or borders to bother with, therefore there were no immigration laws to go by, and after they were settle in this continent, the white men came and almost kill them all, from North America to South America.
I am not 100% percent sure about the north american natives but in my country the spaniards kill the inkas by the thousands every week and they, the spaniards, were the illegals/undocumented the criminals and I am hoping that Cactus will understand that and see that this country was build by inmigrants and that they are still doing so and not ALL are criminals!!!

[AZ Miguel]

........I am hoping that Cactus will understand that and see that this country was build by immigrants and that they are still doing so and not ALL are criminals!!!

I agree, the only immigrants that are criminals are the ones here illegally and the laws should be enforced to arrest those that break the law of the land, from illegal immigrants to those that employ them. Our taxes should be utilized to stop illegal border crossing BEFORE the crime is committed and we would have less criminals in our communities.

[JustGiveMeSol]

Inkaroads....no, I don't know Cactus at all....but....

Yes....if you are in the US illegally....you are breaking the law...and therefore are a criminal. I refuse to refer to the "illegals" as "undocumented", as the politically correct news media likes to do! Another way the general population is being brain washed on the subject!

How do you differentiate between a "good" criminal versus a "bad" criminal????? :roll: :roll: :roll:

My parents and I came to the US "LEGALLY".....following the procedures that are there for immigrating to the US. We didn't sneak across the border, get fake ID's, or steal someone else's identity(by using someone else's Social Security Number). We didn't drive a vehicle with a fake driver's license and we didn't drive a vehicle without insurance....all of these are crimes....some may be misdemeanors, and some are felonies, but crimes no less. I could go on and on.....

We also paid income taxes.....something many of the illegals don't do. (Yes....the employers who hire the "illegals" are also breaking the law and should also be prosecuted!) Yeah, they pay sales taxes when they buy things, but they also avoid many other taxes. We paid for medical services if we had to go to the emergency room (even though we were dirt poor), and didn't overtax the "system" to the point that hospitals have had to shut down, and medical costs have skyrocketed (both medical insurance and services). Not all of the increases are the result of the profits for hospitals/doctrors/drug companies/etc.

[jerry]

" Not all of the increases are the result of the profits for hospitals/doctrors/drug companies/etc."

You forgot the insurance companies. We need a system like Israels.The doctors are well paid employees of the state for the most part and the government (thanks in some part to foreign aid from the US) picks up the tab on the big stuff and for people with no dough.

Much like the Mexicans the Irish poured into the country in many ways in the 1800s that were not legal. The Kellys for instance(my people) were brought here as child laborers and given the names of the Ohio land owners they slaved away for.In New Orleans the Irish did the jobs that were to dangerous for valuable slaves.Things change and if we don't freak out and hammer everyone that is lured here we will be a stronger country with a way better national Soccer team

[JustGiveMeSol]

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Things change and if we don't freak out and hammer everyone that is lured here we will be a stronger country with a way better national Soccer team
That is where I wholeheartedly disagree.....the current group of people coming in to the country are not making an attempt to become assimilated....they prefer to maintain their culture AND LANGUAGE and this causes the "hate and discontent" in part....the country is not going to get stronger.

We have been forced to provide translations for just about everything in Spanish...voting ballots, driver's license tests, even the "Press 1 for English" when calling your bank or a government office....this did not happen for the Irish, or the Italians, or the Germans, or the Slavic, the Asians, etc......yes, they had their neighborhoods with the stores providing services in their language.....in NY City when I was young, the small shopkeepers were frequently Jewish, and they spoke a multitude of languages so they could cater to their customers. You had Chinatown in NYC for just that reason. But any government services (city, state, federal) were all in English. To become a citizen, you had to demonstrate a knowledge of English. I don't think that has changed.....or are the hispanics able to take the test in Spanish????

[Ladyjeeper]

Sol,
Not all of them refuse to learn the language or assimilate. I know quite a few families through my work that until they open their mouths and speak heavily accented English, you would think were American. They talk to me in English altho I am bilingual. They shop at Frys and Costco. They worked their arses off to achieve the American Dream. They've remodeled substandard homes (all they could afford to buy) into beautiful homes. And they did all the work themselves WITH all the proper permits. They've never been in jail. They give food and clothes to the homeless! And they did all this while not being eligible for social services, allowed to get a driver's license or open a bank account. These are the people we need to let stay here. I'm all for deporting real criminals, the bank robbing, child raping, murdering criminals. These hard working families contribute a lot now. Just think how much more they could contribute if they were documented. Please take a look around, you'll see what I see.

And no, the citizenship test is in English. I've seen it and I'm GLAD I don't have to take it! It is 100 questions, some are very difficult!

[JustGiveMeSol]

Ladyjeeper....I never said that there are not some that are nice, hard working people....but we had one period of "amnesty".....and there are many (probably in the hundred of thousands or even millions)that didn't take advantage of it.....how many more amnesties do you want to have?

The federal gov't needs to take responsibility for the lack of enforcement of the immigration laws (or the lukewarm enforcement) and stop the flow...and make sure that those that get caught don't keep coming back.....once that gets done, then we can talk about another "amnesty", and getting those that are here to become documented.

I'm sure that even if we did that, there are still many that wouldn't bother to try to become "legal"! I'd even bet that the majority would not! Call me a cynic if you want.

[dmcauley]

There are many who don't trust the government-I was treated very badly myself during the immigration of my wife and family and know how difficult the process is. Yes, let's try to keep the good ones and get rid of the criminal element and by all means secure our borders., but how about some compassion for our neighbors folks.

[JustGiveMeSol]

Sorry dmcauley....but I don't feel compassion for those who have broken our laws.....I do feel compassion for those living in poverty in Mexico, or other latin/south american countries, or even the rest of the world....but we can't solve the problems of the entire world.

Back when my parents and I were preparing to come to the US legally, someone else in the post WWII refugee camp that we were living in wanted our slots.....and reported to the US authorities that my father had tuberculosis....one way to get disqualified. We lost our slots, and my father had to go thru a very difficult process to prove that he did not have tuberculosis.....he did not know that he would be successful, but he still did it.....it took 6 more months living in that camp.....compassion by the authorities or the American public had nothing to do with it....there was a process, and it needed to be followed if we wanted to immigrate to the US.......LEGALLY!

The ones here illegally, especially the ones who have children born in the US, made the choice to come here illegally, and it was their choice to have chldren here, and it was also their choice to not go thru the "process" when the amnesty program was available, regardless of how "difficult" the process may have been....and now it is my fault that they are caught and deported?

I just happened to have met a couple of mexicans my last trip down...who had been in the US illegally, and were caught and deported. Their attitude was interesting....there was no apparent bitterness or anger displayed....it was one of ...oh well...I gambled, and lost.

[jerry]

70 grand per unskilled bubba in a green and white truck rather than civil suits against the top corporate heads that push the low wage agenda.I'm surprised they haven't figured out a way to hire low paid foreigner contract employees to take the border patrol guys place,We are an Orwellian police state.

[InkaRoads]

Inkaroads....no, I don't know Cactus at all....but....

Sorry, but it seems that you are also part of the "know squat" if you do not know cactus!!!

Yes....if you are in the US illegally....you are breaking the law...and therefore are a criminal. I refuse to refer to the "illegals" as "undocumented", as the politically correct news media likes to do! Another way the general population is being brain washed on the subject!

most media refers to illegals as "undocumented aliens (from another planet)" not just undocumented, you can be driving your car and not have a drivers license and be an US citizen but then you are undocumented.

How do you differentiate between a "good" criminal versus a "bad" criminal????? :roll: :roll: :roll:

A father with his family/man coming to this country to better themselves/him, yes granted broke an inmigration law that the government considers a crime that not necesarily makes a person a criminal (good criminal) those others thatn come to US an commit hideous crimes or even pickpocket, those are criminals, bad criminals

My parents and I came to the US "LEGALLY".....following the procedures that are there for immigrating to the US. We didn't sneak across the border, get fake ID's, or steal someone else's identity(by using someone else's Social Security Number). We didn't drive a vehicle with a fake driver's license and we didn't drive a vehicle without insurance....all of these are crimes....some may be misdemeanors, and some are felonies, but crimes no less. I could go on and on.....

and on and on, however you were a previlage one because of your situation, which I only know for what you have post, that your family was on a prision camp, political refugees get oppotunities that other do not

We also paid income taxes.....something many of the illegals don't do. (Yes....the employers who hire the "illegals" are also breaking the law and should also be prosecuted!) Yeah, they pay sales taxes when they buy things, but they also avoid many other taxes. We paid for medical services if we had to go to the emergency room (even though we were dirt poor), and didn't overtax the "system" to the point that hospitals have had to shut down, and medical costs have skyrocketed (both medical insurance and services). Not all of the increases are the result of the profits for hospitals/doctrors/drug companies/etc.

you paid taxes and hope still do otherwise you are a criminal under the eyes of the IRS, the majority of illegal/undocumented, although most use a fake SSN, not necesarily some elses SSN, do pay taxes, my personal expirience there is a man in Los Angeles that some how got a hold of my SSN, put an alert on SSN admin and the credit bureaus and I have been keeping track of him it has been almost 10 years all he is doing is working, no loans or anything else under his name and my SSN, at the end of the day I collect all SSN benefits, I even had problems when applying for a loan due to the alert in my SSN.
Another personal experience, while my father was working overseas his residency expired and he was not able to get to US in time to re-new, some how he made it to Tucson and fix it, however before he did he was in Tucson for a whole week, was he a criminal? NO, I know the guy and I know he is not a criminal.
The sad part is that of the millions of illegal/undocumented aliens in US the great majority pays taxes, their doctors, bills, etc.etc.etc. might not be right but they pay their dues even for some one else, like in my case.
OH!! and by the way when the first people came to this continent thru the Bering straight they were not breaking any laws, there were no boundries or borders or laws for that matter, human greed impose those borders and no matter how tall or long the wall is you better believe that they will find a way, "if you build it, they will come..." from fields of dreams, nothing to do with inmigration but it applies too!!!

[JustGiveMeSol]

inkaroads....there you go again.....mixing apples and oranges.....and prunes :lol: :roll: :roll:

Not knowing cactus is completely unrelated to my comment about people not knowing squat about issues.....

And maybe you don't understand the concept, but in the US...."we" are the government....we elect the people who pass the laws. And "we" consider breaking an immigration law a crime. If the majority don't feel that way, the law can be changed.

[InkaRoads]

.......and maybe you don't understand the concept, but in the US...."we" are the government....we elect the people who pass the laws. And "we" consider breaking an immigration law a crime. If the majority don't feel that way, the law can be changed.

I guess you misunderstand the concept of "we are the government" the second term that Bush "won" was not because "we" choose him, and even the first term was surrounded by controversy, so that "we" concept is completely wrong as well as many of the Laws that "we" choose to get rid off and are still there and are so attiquated that do not even relate to this day and age. Were you given the chance to vote or voice your choice to go to war? "WE" :lol: :lol: :lol:
what I meant.....ah forget it, the same way that are many races in this country there are many opinion and they all are like arsshole everyone has one and all stink, including mine!!!!
Viva Tecate!!!!!

[InkaRoads]

JGMS you did not answer my question, Is my father a criminal?

[jerry]

I think we need more Jamaican sprinters to move here,some Chinese divers,plenty of Kenyan long distance runners...oh and a few Aussie swimmers would fill out my wish list.

[JustGiveMeSol]

JGMS you did not answer my question, Is my father a criminal?
I thought it was a rhetorical question....and you probably don't want to hear my answer.

Webster's Dictionary has the following....
criminal:
3: guilty of crime;

So you answer your own question.

[InkaRoads]

Although a few of those nigirian millioners will be also good to supplement our economy an rise the wages of the illegal/undocumented workers in USA :eek3:

[InkaRoads]

JGMS, I am sorry that you need to resourse to the Mirriam-Webster dictionary to realize what "crime/criminal" means, I knew it all along and there is no doubt in my mind what it means!!!
and we are in a free country and your opinion should be heard as well as mine and anybody elses, how other take your opinion is different story and if you think that given me your opinion about my fathers situation back then is going to insult or hurt my feelings then I appreciate your consern, what can you say to me that has not been said before? as we say in spanish "me resbala" :o

[dmcauley]

JGMS is more ignorant and racially biased than senior Amigo.
We also say in spanish Come mierda <WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP> hijo de tus <WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP> puto padres.
If our government doesn't make mistakes then why were your folks in a camp?

[Kenny]

I think we need more Jamaican sprinters to move here,some Chinese divers,plenty of Kenyan long distance runners...oh and a few Aussie swimmers would fill out my wish list.

OK Jerry I think you've had more than enough of the Olympics for awhile. :roll: Here's what you need to do. First, get up and turn the TV off... Good :!: ...now see if you can get some sleep and check back with us tomorrow.
Kenny

[JustGiveMeSol]

JGMS is more ignorant and racially biased than senior Amigo.
We also say in spanish Come mierda <WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP> hijo de tus <WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP><WASH MY MOUTH OUT WITH SOAP> puto padres.
If our government doesn't make mistakes then why were your folks in a camp?
Thank you dmcauley....but why don't you translate for all what you are trying to say to me???? A little bit of "name calling"???? :roll: :(

And if you took the time and read what I posted, we were not in a US government "camp"....although it appears that you edited something out of your original post....we were in a "refugee" camp that was provided by the US and it's Allies from WWII.......

Racially biased? I couldn't care who the "illegal" is in these discussions....although the bulk of them today are hispanic....

[InkaRoads]

[quote="JustGiveMeSol...we were in a "refugee" camp that was provided by the US and it's Allies from WWII.......[/quote]

JGMS I am sorry, I have to apologies to you, I did not caught the part in your original message about being in a refugee camp in WWII.
Some how I thought of Bosnia-Herzegobina, now I understand were you coming from, you are from the old really old school were open minds did not existed or should I say were not allowed, now you can really say what you want I won't bother me at all, but let me tell you one thing, you thought you had it rough, well crimes of political type happen in South America too!!! and they still happen and some are same or worst than in Europe back on the 40's, therefore the reason my family flead Peru, with that all I say now is open your mind you have been in a free country for how long? gadda dammit!!!!!! you could be my greatgrand father for your age I will respect you, but your opinion really stink now!!!!!
apples, oranges, prunes even grapes you can have the hole shabang!!!!! your mind is so close that you did not even understood what I meant by "know squat" about Cactus, let me re-frase it for you, you do know squat about Cactus, you guys are the same type, are you the same person!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
PS: it is hot and I have been cutting tile all day, and now this, it feels like I have been waisting my time here with you, am having a tequila with some tropical juices cranck the volume and listen to some "Les Luthier" (Argentina) to have a laugh and forget about the hole affair!!!
Jerry, which channel are the Olympic games at?

[Kenny]

"Jerry, which channel are the Olympic games at"?

Shuuuuu quite, Jerry is taking a nap. :D
Kenny

[InkaRoads]

Sorry Kenny, I will finish my drink, turn the volume down and go lay down and have a nap :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
aaaaaaahhhh!!!!! forget it I am so pissed for not paying attention to all his post, I'll have a second drink and turn the volume up, Jeeeerrrrryyyyy wake up!!!!! the olympics are coming!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dmcauley]

Basically eat sh*t. I can't stomach your self riighteous attitude. Your generation is responsible for much of what's wrong with our world today. The spare the rod spoil the child attitude is typical.
Maybe you are Cactus but I think even he isn't quite as biased as you.
I use my real name on the forum, I am of Irish decent but learned to speak Spanish out of respect for a people I am proud to call amigoes.

[Kenny]

Come on Dan, stop holding back. Tell us how you really feel.. :evil: :lol:

I think you might have woke Jerry up with that one..LOL

Kenny

[InkaRoads]

Kenny, it's kinda cold, could you please stir the fire!!!! must keep Jerry warm!!!!!
dammit quit laughing, the tequila goes in your mouth not the keyboard!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
hhhmmmm.... I donno if a should blame Beachmom for this one!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
sorry guys, I know it has been a short time and my second drink is almost gone but at least I am laughing my arss of!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kenny]

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[InkaRoads]

like ~~~HAPPY~~~will say
stop, stop
no,no,no
can laugh no more!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
stipped Kenny, I mean stopped Kenny :lol: :lol: :lol:

[InkaRoads]

seriously, I can stop laughing, this is what happen when you speed read and think you got it all!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
goad my belly hurts!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kenny, you are mean, now is there, no need for link, stop it!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[InkaRoads]

Kenny, thank you for lighting my day, you brought a smile to my face and now all is good!!!!

[dmcauley]

'nuff said Kenny- Time to go fishin'

[jerry]

Yawn....wow i have to stop watching womens team handball on the USA channel till 4am,,,and what is with those damn Japanese women beating our softball team? I'm not getting much work done this week but we're thinking of getting out of the modernist furniture game and focus on making coffins for fallen Mexican drug warriors.

[JustGiveMeSol]

Basically eat sh*t. I can't stomach your self riighteous attitude. Your generation is responsible for much of what's wrong with our world today. The spare the rod spoil the child attitude is typical.
Maybe you are Cactus but I think even he isn't quite as biased as you.
I use my real name on the forum, I am of Irish decent but learned to speak Spanish out of respect for a people I am proud to call amigoes.
dmcauley....I would hope you learned to speak spanish....with a mexican wife....it would sure get boring if you weren't able to communicate! :lol:

[JustGiveMeSol]

Well....folks.....there you have it....as I stated earlier in this thread, disagree with someone's opinion, or have an unpopular one....and you will find a couple who will dump on you and resort to name calling.....

It's been fun yanking some chains to demonstrate my point!!! :twisted: :lol: :roll:

[JustGiveMeSol]

Yawn....wow i have to stop watching womens team handball on the USA channel till 4am,,,and what is with those damn Japanese women beating our softball team? I'm not getting much work done this week but we're thinking of getting out of the modernist furniture game and focus on making coffins for fallen Mexican drug warriors.

I don't understand it....the Japanese went with their ace pitcher....and we didn't??????

[Kenny]

I guess some people just like walking out onto quicksand even though the know their going to sink :lol: ..LOL
That's right Dan, you're going to get your boat :boat: out this weekend, have a great time. :sunny:

Kenny

[Ladyjeeper]

I am of Irish decent but learned to speak Spanish out of respect for a people I am proud to call amigoes.
Right on, Dan!

[InkaRoads]

[quote="JustGiveMeSol.....It's been fun yanking some chains to demonstrate my point!!! :twisted: :lol: :roll:[/quote]
So JGMS all you wrote was a lie,just to prove a point, interesting, so would you enlight us with your true opinion about the subject then.

[JustGiveMeSol]

[quote="JustGiveMeSol.....It's been fun yanking some chains to demonstrate my point!!! :twisted: :lol: :roll:
So JGMS all you wrote was a lie,just to prove a point, interesting, so would you enlight us with your true opinion about the subject then.[/quote]


I recognize that english is not your native language (as it is not mine either).....but you need to learn to read a bit more carefully and understand what you are reading before jumping to conclusions or making "ass"umptions.....my background and life experiences were completely true.....how strongly I may or may not believe some of my comments on "illegals" are completely my business, and not yours! It was fun demonstrating how you can easily get "abused" by a few on an open forum just because you disagree with their opinions.

Something I learned from school buddies a long time ago who were on a debating team.....know both sides of the argument if you want to be able to discuss the subject!

[InkaRoads]

JGMS, as I say, sorry I did miss the WWII part, which is the only part of all your posts I missed, now that I know you like to lie I do not really care about your opinion!!!!!! :eek3:

[JustGiveMeSol]

JGMS, as I say, sorry I did miss the WWII part, which is the only part of all your posts I missed, now that I know you like to lie I do not really care about your opinion!!!!!! :eek3:

There you go again inkaroads.....making those "ass"umptions.........

Sorry Happy...but I've got to borrow it.....

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[cheatka]

You are so right, they don't want to assimulate, they want their own culture and their own language and they want us to cater to them. When my ancestors came here thru Ellis Island they did it legally and they also became citizens and had to RENOUNCE their old country and only hold homage to the US. I have the paperwork showing that is exactly what they did.

[Mentiras y Traición]

Well, gone a couple of days, and look what happens....

[Kenny]

I thought this one went away, but I guess cheatka wanted to get two cent's in. Hey cheatka, here's your change.

[jerry]

Cheaka, I think you need a hug.Since I'm not available at this time I suggest you hire a Mexican outside Home Depot to give you one as they will work for anyone in this tough economy!

[rockyptjoe]

I just love it when someone posts to a thread that's over a year old!!!

[Kenny]

I just love it when someone posts to a thread that's over a year old!!!
I liked it when our Rip Van Winkle Bunnie> :bunny:responded like it was brand new.:stir: Maybe a long weekend?:coldone:

Duck Kenny, duck!
Way down here you need a reason to move
Feel a fool running your stateside games
Lose your load, leave your mind behind, Baby James