Lopez Aceves

[kasdanh]

Anyone know anything about this area? Apparently it's close to RP (within 10 minutes) and has some good deals on land with owner financing. I saw it at the twin dolphin realty site. Any know about it? Been there?

Just FYI: The lots that I saw were around $7500 bucks each with ocean views, 100m from the beach. with owner financing it broke down to like $45 a month. crazy cheap!

[JimMcG]

Anyone know anything about this area? Apparently it's close to RP (within 10 minutes) and has some good deals on land with owner financing. I saw it at the twin dolphin realty site. Any know about it? Been there?

Just FYI: The lots that I saw were around $7500 bucks each with ocean views, 100m from the beach. with owner financing it broke down to like $45 a month. crazy cheap!

http://64.141.48.200/MX/Sonora/Puerto-Penasco-Rocky-Point/Black-Mountain/Lopez-Acevez-Real-Estate.aspx

[mexicoruss]

It is pretty out there, I would put it about 15 minutes to Penasco after you get on the highway. Very quiet very peaceful. We are looking out there right now too!

[Roberto]

I just happen to maintain Twin Dolphin's web site, so I know a bit about Lopez. Here is an overall subdivision plat and a price list of most of the lots for sale. No I'm not one of the hated R$#*#%rs, but I do like Hawaiian shirts, not tucked in though! Feel free to PM me or e-mail direct at Twindolphinrlty@aol.com
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[Jim]

I own several lots in Lopez Aceves. I bought them years ago. Long before the coastal highway was ever started. I like the area and am just sitting on them until utilities go in and prices go up. Then I"ll decide what to do with them. I doubt you will get much for $7500 though. Be careful. That area is Ejido land and much of it has not been privatized yet. I fought 4 years to finally get title to one piece out there.

[Roberto]

This land in NOT ejido land. It is all legally owned under individual titles and or bank trusts. The $7,500 lots are 20x22.5 meters, 450 M2 and yes you can use it as an RV lot. There are some larger lots that would work well as a nice private RV community sharing infrastructure, with multiple ownership. There are no HOA fees, etc. and you can ride your ATV on the beach all the way to El Golfo. The fact is that you will not find any smaller lots for sale anywhere from El Golfo To San Carlos with good title and at prices this attractive. Yes, the beach is flat and the tide goes out more than many people like, but it's great for kids at low tide with lots of tide pools to explore.

[playaperro]

So the lots are on a "Master Trust".

[Roberto]

So the lots are on a "Master Trust".

Nope, the lots for sale all have a Mexican title. There are other lots in Lopez which have been bought by non-Mexicans and those are held in an individual trust. There is no Master Trust because there is no need, the owner is a Mexican National.

[playaperro]

wow that is good news. thanks

[sanjorge george]

hmmm. american buyer ?bank trust required? think so. or mexican corporation.

[GringoZona]

Off topic here--though it DOES belong in the real estate section--can someone tell me what this will be: http://media.point2.com/p2h/listing/b822/ce46/b638/6136e565316f364b5562/gallery.jpg

Just behind the dive shop (which is now, sadly, for sale). Is this the Captain's Cove (?) condo project I saw online somewhere? Please tell me that's not a parking garage for something else even bigger...Didn't think it was worth starting an entire thread over, and I'm not sure where to find more info.

Thanks!

[dmcauley]

Sorry folks, this is definitely an ejido and the ex mayor has granted title to some lots illegally. How do I know?
My wife has been a member of this ejido for 23 years and now is in court trying for repossession of the whole bit.
They have been to court several times and the only person who has real papers on the ejido is Francisca Juvera Garcia. This is my wifes sister. Many people there are in jeopardy unless the people who are trying to frauduently sell these lots come to an agreement with the surviving members of the ejido.

[ernesto]

Exactly the kind of real estate crap you want to avoid down there. If it doesn,t have a bank trust in place don't EVEN consider it.

[Wahoo]

I googled this "L Aceves" to try to find a map to locate this plat. It looks like every Realtor in town is listing lots from this L Aceves. Strange if DMCauley is correct.

Q?:
1. Does any Realtor do Due diligence before taking a listing? Find out if the seller is real? Do they care about the Buyer or only represent the Sales and it is Buyer Beware? "Get your own Real estate Lawyer..." Realtors just are marketing. Fishing for buyers?

2. I have been trying to find out about recorded sales. Is there a public recorded sales record of Real Estate transactions in PP that the buyers can research? Something like the here in Maricopa, all sales are public so others can know what price a transaction took place? How many at Palomas? How many Listings? Range of $/Ft listed and sold?

With hundreds of Condo's on the market it would be beneficial to all to know what the reality is. It is all heresay. Yes they are selling like hot cakes, the port will have cruise ships soon, and we have international flights...

This is my experience for others to research;

Trusts are expensive to maintain.
Utilities are expensive to have, electricity especially.
HOA fees have been rising exponentially as many are in arrears and cash flow is spread to owners.
Ocean property by itself is expensive to maintain due to "Salt" in the air.
Property Taxes are very high, and any capital profits are taxed at Mexican income rates at settlement.

Can some one chime in on property taxes on a non RE ownership?
You do not own the property in a condo, but the shell and have a maintenance fee that is a personal liability. Some one told me you are taxed at the purchase price?
So even if values have dropped your taxes remain high?

Just some questions I have. Thanks for a response.

[dmcauley]

I have seen this same pridicament many times over in the years I have been going to RP. This one just happens to hit close to home. I don't want to start problems for any one but believe me this was not an abandoned ejido. This was taken over by thugs and political corruption. The owner of this ejido is the one with the papers. Francisca Juvera Garcia.
Time will tell but I only think people should be aware of this. If any one would like to see the real paperwork on this PM me.

[Mentiras y Traición]

:stir:Shades of Las Conchas...good luck, everyone.

[playaperro]

How much is the down payment and the monthy payments...

[Roberto]

hmmm. american buyer ?bank trust required? think so. or mexican corporation.

I don't get your point? The reference was to how the land is currently owned. It is not Ejido land, it was. Ownership is currently held either with a title in the case of a Mexican owner or a Bank Trust in the case of a non-Mexican owner.

[Roberto]

I have seen this same pridicament many times over in the years I have been going to RP. This one just happens to hit close to home. I don't want to start problems for any one but believe me this was not an abandoned ejido. This was taken over by thugs and political corruption. The owner of this ejido is the one with the papers. Francisca Juvera Garcia.
Time will tell but I only think people should be aware of this. If any one would like to see the real paperwork on this PM me.

I think you should check your facts before posting. I'd love to see the real paperwork. I'm pretty sure that you are referring to Ejido Las Lagramis not Lopez Aceves. Yes there have been problems at Ejido Las Lagramis, not at Lopez Aceves.

[Stuart]

Off topic here--though it DOES belong in the real estate section--can someone tell me what this will be: http://media.point2.com/p2h/listing/b822/ce46/b638/6136e565316f364b5562/gallery.jpg

Just behind the dive shop (which is now, sadly, for sale). Is this the Captain's Cove (?) condo project I saw online somewhere? Please tell me that's not a parking garage for something else even bigger...Didn't think it was worth starting an entire thread over, and I'm not sure where to find more info.

Thanks!

I don't know the name of it, but it kinda ruined the public harbor area. I spoke with mi amigo Miguel at the public harbor about this building a couple of weeks ago. He stated that all construction on in has stopped - hasn't seen anybody working on it for the past few months. He also mentioned that an inspector had said that the building is crooked or not level as it should be and that it would cost mucho dinero to fix it and make it right.

Granted, just hearsay on the street, but that's what I was recently told when I inquired about it. Personally, I haven't seen any progression on it in months. Also (personally), I thought it was a pretty stupid place to build a project of this nature, but then again, I'm not a visionary real estate developer. Just around the corner, the Acropolis project on the harbor seems to be continuing along.

[lagrimas85]

Jim, I own the 7500.00 dollar lots in lopez aceves why do you say be careful without going over to Twin Dolphins first and asking for a copy of the titles. and the comment about ejido land almost all of Rocky Point was Ejido land at one time. please- it says your a realtor do your research. you also say you fought for your titles could you please tell me with whom and how. p.s. Toby and Yesika met on my boat. what a disaster for Yesika. Thanks Lagrimas85

[PitiquitoRosy]

This is Larry Large's Harbor View. It was rumored at one time to be slated for conversion to a Holiday Inn, but that also fell through. As it stands now...it just stands now. No doubt available for sale. The other project, across from Latitude 31 isn't Acropolis, but Metropoli. That one never even saw a slow-down. I attended the inauguration a couple of months ago, a party where they unveiled what will be there and the time-frames. Of course it remains to be seen whether the 6-screen movie house becomes a reality. Its my understanding that Grupo Questro is not coming back to develop in Penasco. Despite what the CEDO website says, the marina on Sandy Beach is closer to being a reality than it ever has been, and a lot is being done both by SBR and the municipal and state governments. There will be news on this in the not-so-distant future. This doesn't mean I think there will be cruise ships here in two years, and the CEDO thing might still present an obstacle.

[Stuart]

Acropolis, Metropli.... it's all Greek to me!!!! Hahhahaha!

(thanks for the correction, though. Just shows you how little I really pay attention to any of the real estate stuff in Rocky Point. Oh, I see it. I just pay it no nevermind!)

[Roberto]

Exactly the kind of real estate crap you want to avoid down there. If it doesn,t have a bank trust in place don't EVEN consider it.

Please check your facts before posting. There is too much misinformation already.

You should have said " If it does not have a Mexican Title or a Bank Trust in place don't EVEN consider it." Sometimes you will find property that is held in a Master Trust. That's OK but get teh process started to have it taken OUT of the Master Trust and into an individual trust before you buy.
That I agree with completely.

Bank Trusts don't fall out of the sky. There was a Mexican Title on any property before it was put under Bank Trust status. If there is a Mexican owner there should be a Title, if a non-mexican owner there should be a Bank Trust.

Also do not accept a person's word on ownership. Get a copy of the documents. Some Mexican titles have restrictions on them regarding the sale. May titles shown by current 'owners' are in the name of a long dead relative.

Here's a real life example. Several years ago I was interested in buying a lot across from the novia's abuelo in Kino. $3,000. The title showed the name of a long gone great uncle of the person offering the lot. Everyone in town knew the guy offering 'owned' it as it was passed down in the family. Went to the Notario and found, yes it could be fixed at this point but would cost $5 to $10 K plus a couple of years, to fix it plus the purchse price. They don't have the $200 to change the owner's name on the title at the registry each time it is passed on, so they don't.

Yes, you have to be careful and informed as possible.

[Roberto]

How much is the down payment and the monthy payments...

I posted the price list with paymets on an earlier post. Go to Twindolphinsrealty.com and click on the Lopez Aceves tabs on the left side. Most of hte info is there. The $7,500 lots are $45 month with $2K down.

[lagrimas85]

Sorry folks, this is definitely an ejido and the ex mayor has granted title to some lots illegally. How do I know?
My wife has been a member of this ejido for 23 years and now is in court trying for repossession of the whole bit.
They have been to court several times and the only person who has real papers on the ejido is Francisca Juvera Garcia. This is my wifes sister. Many people there are in jeopardy unless the people who are trying to frauduently sell these lots come to an agreement with the surviving members of the ejido.

dmcauley, there are 53 members of this ejido. In Mexico an ejido must have 20 members or more so I dont understand how your sister in law can be the only person with legal papers. also if your wife is a member as you state is your sister in law suing her? I know of Francisca I have been going to ejido meetings for 12 years and have never seen her or your wife at one meeting. You need to please retract some of your false statements about fraudulenty selling lots. I would like to see your paperwork. my home phone # 520-424-3584

[lagrimas85]

Anyone know anything about this area? Apparently it's close to RP (within 10 minutes) and has some good deals on land with owner financing. I saw it at the twin dolphin realty site. Any know about it? Been there?

Just FYI: The lots that I saw were around $7500 bucks each with ocean views, 100m from the beach. with owner financing it broke down to like $45 a month. crazy cheap!
Kasdanh, regardless of the negative bs posted on this site if you or anybody else is intrested in buying in lopez aceves go to twin dolphins realty get a copy of the title then take the paperwork to Stewart title in rp or any other title company have them look at it and see if they will issue title insurance on that property. the cost for title insurance is very cheap and you would be insured against any loss. Simple if they wont insure it dont buy it. But I know they will insure these titles. If you do this please post results here. I built and sold 16 spec houses in lopez and have sold 45 of my wifes lots without any problems closing these at all. We still have approx. 120 properties in lopez. Title report and title insurance will tell you who is full of bs. Thanks lagrimas85

[garyd]

Kasdanh, regardless of the negative bs posted on this site if you or anybody else is intrested in buying in lopez aceves go to twin dolphins realty get a copy of the title then take the paperwork to Stewart title in rp or any other title company have them look at it and see if they will issue title insurance on that property. the cost for title insurance is very cheap and you would be insured against any loss. Simple if they wont insure it dont buy it. But I know they will insure these titles. If you do this please post results here. I built and sold 16 spec houses in lopez and have sold 45 of my wifes lots without any problems closing these at all. We still have approx. 120 properties in lopez. Title report and title insurance will tell you who is full of bs. Thanks lagrimas85 I have no desire to stir the pot or make false comments so I pose this as a question. If the Title Insurance is the Holy Grail of proof of ownership why is Playa Azul in North Beach so screwed up? The developer had title insurance and the last I heard they were refusing to pay up because the dispute was still in court. What is your knowledge of this?

[lagrimas85]

Garyd, maybe the fact that its still in court has something to do with it as there still may be no winner or loser hence the buyers in the title companies eyes have still not legally lost their money. I dont know this for sure. Also you would need to look at the policy to see if there were any exclusions in other words title company outs. Thanks Lagrimas85

[garyd]

Garyd, maybe the fact that its still in court has something to do with it as there still may be no winner or loser hence the buyers in the title companies eyes have still not legally lost their money. I dont know this for sure. Also you would need to look at the policy to see if there were any exclusions in other words title company outs. Thanks Lagrimas85
Thanks for thr reply

[ernesto]

Why buy trouble? Don't walk away from this..........run!

[dmcauley]

There are actually 25 members left in this ejido. Francisca has the papers and all others have copies which were given to her as the head of the ejido. My wifes name and many more are on these papers. The ejido was formally presented to her.
Anyone in this ejido knows it is in court. I am only posting the facts as I know them and am no way involved in the litigation.

[dmcauley]

By the way folks, my name and photo is posted on this forum. No BS here, the person who is posting about my BS is a first time poster and only on this topic. If you are an owner you KNOW it is in litigation. You folks have sold enough so you had more dollars for the usual Mexican litigation, but buyer beware, this is not over yet.

[Roberto]

By the way folks, my name and photo is posted on this forum. No BS here, the person who is posting about my BS is a first time poster and only on this topic. If you are an owner you KNOW it is in litigation. You folks have sold enough so you had more dollars for the usual Mexican litigation, but buyer beware, this is not over yet.

Thanks for the warning, but ...... this is just the kind of thing gives real estate in Penasco a bad name. The 'first time poster' came on at my invitation as his wife is a long standing Ejido member and they own land at Lopez. I think they are entitled to an opportunity to be involved in such a discussion, especially when allegations of fraud are made. Did you phone him to discuss the matter, he gave you his phone number. Is he and or his wife named in this law suit you are referring to?

Twin Dolphins has sold 40 or 50 lots over the past years and not ONE of those owners is involved in a law suit or is even aware of a law suite. That's a fact and I guarantee that someone would have wanted to sue the "crooked" Real Estate people that sold them the lot. Titles and bank trusts have been issued on property sold. Are you saying that they are all bogus? I don't know where you are getting your information but I still think you need to check it. Did you read the papers you refer to or just 'see' them? I'm sure there is a lot of pressure to take the family line is a matter like this. Too bad there is not a Snopes for Penasco real estate. When were they in court last? When are they in court next? Who are the lawyers involved? Where is the court held? Give me a reference number to the suit I want to read it.
I think you owe this type of information to everyone so they can make their own decision if they are so inclined.
I'd like to see a public response to these questions. If it's real it's real, but your account is not in accord with my experience. Thanks in advance for helping clear up this matter.

[dmcauley]

Enough said on my part. My wife's family and many others have held this ejido for twenty years and the new members have what has been described as questionable documents to me for a little more than ten. I know nothing else as of now except that titles have been issued on false information. I tried to call your friend Roberto but got no answer. Will try again.

[dmcauley]

So whom is the reputed Mexican National "owner"??

[GringoZona]

This is Larry Large's Harbor View. It was rumored at one time to be slated for conversion to a Holiday Inn, but that also fell through. As it stands now...it just stands now. No doubt available for sale.

And the other rumor is that it was built off-kilter, so now it's not level and nobody has money to start over. Unbelievable! Absolutely sick how people can just screw around with the Penasco skyline, abandon these projects and get away with it. And it was Larry Large???

[Roberto]

Further investigation indicates that the Law suit referred to by Dan is in fact on a parcel of Ejido land NEXT to the property subdivded and being sold. It does NOT involve any of the lots already sold and offered for sale, lots which are out of Ejido status.

The other evidence that there is NOT a suit on the lots offered for sale by Twin Dolphins is that there is NO notation of any pending or unresolved legal issues noted on the titles or at the registry. I examined some recently issued titles. If there is any legal dispute on a property there is a notation at the registry and this notation is found before closing. If the titles were issued illegally and if there is a legal dispute over ownership which is in court there is a notation on the title.

Dan, I think if you investigate a little more you will find this to be accurate. You are correct, there is a law suite, but on a different piece of property. One of the plantiffs has been at Twin Dolphins asking them to market that property in dispute already!

[dmcauley]

Thanks roberto, All I know is that my wife and her people are involved in Litigation on Ejido Alfredo Lopez Aceves which begins at Pancho Villas on the Sonoita HWY and goes to the ocean. The judge has been dow and says some of the property is built on. When I come back down we can both read the papers together. Thanks Again

[lagrimas85]

Thanks roberto, All I know is that my wife and her people are involved in Litigation on Ejido Alfredo Lopez Aceves which begins at Pancho Villas on the Sonoita HWY and goes to the ocean. The judge has been dow and says some of the property is built on. When I come back down we can both read the papers together. Thanks Again
As in the U.S. anybody can begin litigation on just about anything. we are presently not involved in any litigation with anybody mentioned in prior posts. this guy has stated that his sister in law was going to take the whole bit but now states there are 23 members and all of them are on the papers. Actually there are 53. Anybody can say anything they want to on a board like this but when these things go to court its a different story. He talks like they are just going to go to court and get it signed over. They wont be the first that have tried and lost. We welcolme this litigation when and if it comes as it will serve to reinforce our rights to this property. I am currently involved in 4 litigations 1 in cholla - 1 in mirador- 1 in las conchas and 1 with the registry in puerto penasco--none in lopez aceves From these 4 litigations I have a pretty good understanding of how the judicial system works. If this does go to litigation it will be held in federal court in mexicali and all I can say is after all the delays and legal manuvers you will be put through we will see you in about 12 years and thats no bs. thanks Lagrimas85

[dmcauley]

I stated that my wifes sister has the papers. If you are not in litigation then you are not part of this ejido. As I said before, ejido Alfredo Lopez Aceves is in litigation, the people who hold false title cannot do anything with this land. Roberto says this is a different section of land. I don't know but I have seen the original documents from Hermasillo and also the false ones from Caborca. There is always a president of an ejido and that person recieves the original papers. Please don't announce what I say and interpret my English, I am not a liar nor trouble maker but have a lot of friends on this board and I don't want to see them burned!!

[lagrimas85]

I stated that my wifes sister has the papers. If you are not in litigation then you are not part of this ejido. As I said before, ejido Alfredo Lopez Aceves is in litigation, the people who hold false title cannot do anything with this land. Roberto says this is a different section of land. I don't know but I have seen the original documents from Hermasillo and also the false ones from Caborca. There is always a president of an ejido and that person recieves the original papers. Please don't announce what I say and interpret my English, I am not a liar nor trouble maker but have a lot of friends on this board and I don't want to see them burned!!
We are not in litigation. You guys are something else. you state you have friends on this board that you dont want to see get burned. If it really belongs to your family when they take it from us just give back to your friends and nobody gets hurt. If you were living in Penasco I would through legal channels attempt to have you deported because as an American its one thing to work or come to enjoy Mexico its another thing with rumors to cause hardships on Mexican families that depend on this land to make a living and now cant. I have already taken one realtor to the edge with this and it works. you have jack **** we have all legal titles and until this ficticious litigation appears you should refrain. please you are a plumber not a mexican lawyer I dont call mexican lawyers when I have plumbing problems and I woulnt call an american plumber when I have Mexican Legal work to do. Thanks Lagrimas

[lagrimas85]

I stated that my wifes sister has the papers. If you are not in litigation then you are not part of this ejido. As I said before, ejido Alfredo Lopez Aceves is in litigation, the people who hold false title cannot do anything with this land. Roberto says this is a different section of land. I don't know but I have seen the original documents from Hermasillo and also the false ones from Caborca. There is always a president of an ejido and that person recieves the original papers. Please don't announce what I say and interpret my English, I am not a liar nor trouble maker but have a lot of friends on this board and I don't want to see them burned!!

dmcauley, as you mention you are protecting freinds I also have to protect what is mine and also must protect our customers and the peolple selling this land. #1 fact 26 parcels purchased by an investment group from Monterrey, Mx. 20,000,000.00 dollars not pesos #2 fact tourist welcome center being built BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT on Lopez land for the pinnacate volcano. #3 fact over 6 million dollars in other investments on lopez land. IF THERE WERE ANY CLOUDS ON THE LAND THESE PEOPLE ARE SMART ENOUGH TO SEE A PROBLEM. IT WAS WHEN THESE BIG SALES STARTED HAPPENING THAT PEOPLE STARTED CRAWLING OUT OF THE WOODWORK TRYING TO CLAIM A PIECE OF LOPEZ. THE INVESTORS FROM MONTERRY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND ALL OTHER INVESTORS WILL PUT UP A LEGAL BATTLE LIKE YOU NEVER SAW. THANKS LAGRIMAS85 dONE FOR NOW ON THIS SUBJECT GOT OTHER FISH TO FRY

[dmcauley]

I am repeating what my wife tells me to. Deport her fool. She is an original member of this ejido and also a native of RP. Where are you from Mr Wade? Why the name Lagrimas. Have you got problems there also? A gringo has no rights to an ejido. Tu ni yo!!
I don't know why you are so mad. Everything my wife has me write here is a matter of public record. Your threats to me are going to be made public William, so keep it up.
I have hidden nothing, including my name from you.
I would never say anything if I wasn't certain, because I am a resident part time of penasco, and I love the people.
You know, you say, of Francisca? Then why the name calling. I decided, and stated, that it was best to let the matter lie. You brought it up again. We can drop it here or continue to beat the dead horse. It is a matter for Mexicans, not us, even if your pockets are bulging with your wife's money.

[playaperro]

You guys are just warming up, you could throw rocks at each other for years. Kenny and I are going to celebrate our second year throwing rocks at each other. Nobody ever going to win...

[rockyptjoe]

We are not in litigation. You guys are something else. you state you have friends on this board that you dont want to see get burned. If it really belongs to your family when they take it from us just give back to your friends and nobody gets hurt. If you were living in Penasco I would through legal channels attempt to have you deported because as an American its one thing to work or come to enjoy Mexico its another thing with rumors to cause hardships on Mexican families that depend on this land to make a living and now cant. I have already taken one realtor to the edge with this and it works. you have jack **** we have all legal titles and until this ficticious litigation appears you should refrain. please you are a plumber not a mexican lawyer I dont call mexican lawyers when I have plumbing problems and I woulnt call an american plumber when I have Mexican Legal work to do. Thanks Lagrimas
Maybe you wouldn't have had all the shady deals that have occurred in Penasco or other parts of Mexico if you had called a plumber!!!! Even using a Notario, I would not be comfortable trying to buy property or a bank trust with the title/deed process that Mexico operates under, or the way litigation is handled when there are disputes. :stir::bunny:

[Stuart]

Geez Louise... me thinks I needs a drink after reading all that anger and hostility!! And, by the way - DM is a darned good, honest, plumber! He's never given me one reason not to believe anything he has said. Here on the forum or in person. However, I'm always suspicious of newbies that show up out of nowhere and start b1tching like little sissy girls when there's real estate (or money) involved. One of those things that make you go "hmmmmmm..."

[rockyptjoe]

Geez Louise... me thinks I needs a drink after reading all that anger and hostility!! And, by the way - DM is a darned good, honest, plumber! He's never given me one reason not to believe anything he has said. Here on the forum or in person. However, I'm always suspicious of newbies that show up out of nowhere and start b1tching like little sissy girls when there's real estate (or money) involved. One of those things that make you go "hmmmmmm..."
:thumbsup:

[Mentiras y Traición]

"Maybe you wouldn't have had all the shady deals that have occurred in Penasco or other parts of Mexico if you had called a plumber!!!! Even using a Notario, I would not be comfortable trying to buy property or a bank trust with the title/deed process that Mexico operates under, or the way litigation is handled when there are disputes. "

AMEN! You have read our posts, right? Crooked notarios, crooked HOA, crooked Property Managers, crooked gringo neighbors...all it takes is the vision of a buck or two!

[lagrimas85]

Geez Louise... me thinks I needs a drink after reading all that anger and hostility!! And, by the way - DM is a darned good, honest, plumber! He's never given me one reason not to believe anything he has said. Here on the forum or in person. However, I'm always suspicious of newbies that show up out of nowhere and start b1tching like little sissy girls when there's real estate (or money) involved. One of those things that make you go "hmmmmmm..."
Stuart, opinions are like a-holes everybodies got one and they usually stink

[lagrimas85]

I am repeating what my wife tells me to. Deport her fool. She is an original member of this ejido and also a native of RP. Where are you from Mr Wade? Why the name Lagrimas. Have you got problems there also? A gringo has no rights to an ejido. Tu ni yo!!
I don't know why you are so mad. Everything my wife has me write here is a matter of public record. Your threats to me are going to be made public William, so keep it up.
I have hidden nothing, including my name from you.
I would never say anything if I wasn't certain, because I am a resident part time of penasco, and I love the people.
You know, you say, of Francisca? Then why the name calling. I decided, and stated, that it was best to let the matter lie. You brought it up again. We can drop it here or continue to beat the dead horse. It is a matter for Mexicans, not us, even if your pockets are bulging with your wife's money.

Dmcauley, I am not repeating what my wife says because she could care less and about me being mad thats way off track. you ask where am I from if it really matters im from Maricopa. Why the name lagrimas thats where I live Ejido lagrimas. Yes I have problems there I lose water pressure constantly my patio fills up with blowing sand and my neighbor has 400 roosters. As far as threats go you stated your family was going to take everybodys land is this not a threat.I havent called anybody any names and even though a gringo cant be an ejidotario Mexico still has community property laws and the husband must also sign for the sale to go through. So it does matter to me but it is as you state 100 % Mexican. I kinda like my wifes money. Thanks Lagrimas

[dmcauley]

My wife and her family were the pioneers of the ejido. I am not familiar with mexican law except for the fact that in Mexico the dollar causes a lot of corruption. I wish I had never brought up this fact but it's in the open now and here it will stay as long as yoyu continue to let it. Justice may or may not prevail. We'll see. I always tell my wife that I think there is sufficient property for all involved but that is not taken in good spirit. She seems to think the judge has been paid off. Do you think that's possible?

[Stuart]

Stuart, opinions are like a-holes everybodies got one and they usually stink

I can smell your "opinion" from here. What do you wipe with, cow dung?

[lagrimas85]

I can smell your "opinion" from here. What do you wipe with, cow dung?

cow dung no. ass wipes like you

[lagrimas85]

My wife and her family were the pioneers of the ejido. I am not familiar with mexican law except for the fact that in Mexico the dollar causes a lot of corruption. I wish I had never brought up this fact but it's in the open now and here it will stay as long as yoyu continue to let it. Justice may or may not prevail. We'll see. I always tell my wife that I think there is sufficient property for all involved but that is not taken in good spirit. She seems to think the judge has been paid off. Do you think that's possible?

Dmcauley, rather talk in private with you when you are in Puerto Penasco -no hard feelings on my part. Thanks Lagrimas85 Stuart Keep posting I will be happy to to respond to you in public. Thanks Lagrimas85

[Stuart]

Sorry, just not worth wasting any further time on you. Please turn off the lights and close the door on your way out.

[Roberto]

:notme::notme::mexico:OK but don't forget we have some really cheap lots for sale !!!!

[lagrimas85]

Sorry, just not worth wasting any further time on you. Please turn off the lights and close the door on your way out.

Stuart, when you called me a sissy you hurt my feelings and made me cry. I dont think I wasted anybodys time but my own. Thanks Lagrimas85

[playaperro]

any updates, what are the beachfronts going for? My cousin is looking to buy a beachfront.

[Esperanza]

Playaperro.....

We purchased out at Lopez Aceves this summer and it has been a "Godsend" for us. Anyone looking for a "quiet place, away from the beaten path" should consider it. No running water or electric yet, but,what the hey........

Even during the heat of summer, we visited at least one a month, mostly, everyother weekend. We are in a travel trailer, did not use the generator, so as not to disturb the peace & quite. The cool breeze off the water were very refreshing. On a couple REALLY hot nights, minimal wind, we pitched hammocks under the palaypa and slept like babies.

IF you don't like peace & quiet, this is not for you. But otherwise, it is heaven on earth. :-)

[Ladyjeeper]

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to come visit you when you are here. Please PM me with the next time so I can see your "little slice of heaven"!

[Kenny]

Here are the prices etc at Lopez Aceves! http://dorisruthbrooks.point2agent.com/Aceves_Lopez_Prices/page_2345656.html

Cash Roberto, and I'll take nothing but American $$$$.

[Jim]

I have 20 lots in Lopez Acevez and I'd take $5000 each right now. I want to keep a few but am broke right now and willing to make a deal...

[Kenny]

Playaperro.....

We purchased out at Lopez Aceves this summer and it has been a "Godsend" for us. Anyone looking for a "quiet place, away from the beaten path" should consider it. No running water or electric yet, but,what the hey........

Even during the heat of summer, we visited at least one a month, mostly, everyother weekend. We are in a travel trailer, did not use the generator, so as not to disturb the peace & quite. The cool breeze off the water were very refreshing. On a couple REALLY hot nights, minimal wind, we pitched hammocks under the palaypa and slept like babies.

IF you don't like peace & quiet, this is not for you. But otherwise, it is heaven on earth. :-)
I've noticed on the site pictures that there are palaypa's sitting on what appears to be open lot's. Did yours already have the palaypa on it, or did you have to have it built?

[Esperanza]

ours had the palaypa already in place.

[playaperro]

http://honeymoons.about.com/od/exploremexico/f/palapa.htm

What the heck is a palaypa? I love to walk on the beach ever since I can remember, What kinds of sea shells are out there?

[Esperanza]

There are lots of shells....not sure of the type?? Beautiful beach, beautiful sunsets. You can walk along the beach as far as your heart desires (or your feet will carry you....LOL)

[rockyptjoe]

When the tide goes out....don't you have to walk forever to get to the water?

[Esperanza]

yep.....but now that the weather has cooled off, it's not so bad. We pickup clams on the way in and the way out. It's about the same as walking the beaches out at San Jorge.