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Hobie Vern
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From what I've been hearing, no.
tequilatodd
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Looks like Pollo Lucas for TG dinner. 
tequilatodd
Guest
this is a yearly dilemma but I have yet to see anyone go hungry on TG while in RP.
However, you could do what we all used to do during the annual TG trip to the Imperial dunes in Cali. Cook your turkey(s) the day before and then slice it all up and transport it that way.
Pack it strategically and away you go. It's not raw, so maybe they wouldn't care
However, you could do what we all used to do during the annual TG trip to the Imperial dunes in Cali. Cook your turkey(s) the day before and then slice it all up and transport it that way.
Pack it strategically and away you go. It's not raw, so maybe they wouldn't care
El Tiburon
Guest
Maybe it was natural and not all shot up with antibiotics and growth hormones.
jerry
Guest
Note....You can bring a ham..better anyways...
US Thanksgiving Turkey Is Mexican Immigrant
By Steve Baragona
The Thanksgiving turkey has made a circular journey, from its origins in Mexico to Europe and back to North America. (Alison Klein/VOA)
Thanksgiving is the quintessential American holiday and roast turkey is the definitive centerpiece of the holiday feast.
But the domesticated turkey is not an American invention.
It's Mexican.
The bird was first domesticated in Mesoamerica, what is now Mexico, at around 800 B.C., says Julie Long, a turkey researcher with the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
"The Mesoamericans had turkey meat all the time," she says.
Enter the Spanish
When the Spanish conquistadors arrived in the 1500s, "They discovered these domesticated turkeys, which were a lot better than the birds they were eating in Europe," Long says.
The Spanish were used to eating birds like peacocks, pretty to look at, but not much meat on them.
"Those are just sort of scrawny little birds," she says. "And, of course, chickens at that time were scrawny little birds."
Compared to a nice, meaty turkey, it was no contest.
Turkey conquers Europe
Along with corn, peppers and tomatoes, the Spanish took turkeys back to Europe with them.
Over the next 100 years, turkeys spread from Spain to Holland and all the way up to England, where goose was the traditional English Christmas feast until turkey came to town.
"To the English at the time, they thought they tasted better than a goose," Long says. "So at Christmas you would actually be doing very well if you got a turkey as opposed to a goose."
Back to the Americas
From 17th-century England, turkeys made their way back to the Americas. English settlers brought the birds and other livestock with them to the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the 1630s.
A decade or so earlier, when the Pilgrims landed in nearby Plymouth, they found the woods were already full of wild turkeys, distant cousins of the birds domesticated in Mesoamerica.
Pilgrim writings "refer to turkeys as being ‘fat and sweet,’" says Kathleen Wall, a colonial food expert at the Plimoth Plantation museum in Plymouth, Massachusetts. She says the birds also made for easy hunting.
"You can go out at twilight and the turkeys roost in trees and you can shoot them off their roost. They sit still while you shoot at them," Wall says.
Wild turkeys decline
Fat, sweet and easy to shoot, it didn't take long before colonists like Gov. William Bradford started writing about the wild turkey's decline.
"One of the things he mentions in the 1640s is how things that were so abundant in 1620 and in 1630 are suddenly disappearing," Wall says.
By the late 1640s, it was a good idea to raise domesticated turkeys because the wild birds were getting harder to find.
Their populations continued to decline as America moved west, hitting a low point in the 1930s.
Recovery
Conservation efforts in the late 20th century started bringing the wild turkey back. Wall says there are enough of them today that occasional attacks on suburbanites are reported.
One turkey that repeatedly attacked a Massachusetts postman had to be forcibly relocated.
As for the original Mexican wild turkey - the great-great grandfather of today's Thanksgiving bird - the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Long says it's probably extinct.
"There are some turkeys that are down there that exist on preserves," she says. "But nobody knows for sure whether those are the original wild birds."
But its descendents live on at the heart of the American Thanksgiving celebration.
Source: http://www.voanews.com/content/us-thanksgiving-turkey-is-mexican-immigrant/1550452.html
US Thanksgiving Turkey Is Mexican Immigrant
The Thanksgiving turkey has made a circular journey, from its origins in Mexico to Europe and back to North America. (Alison Klein/VOA)
Thanksgiving is the quintessential American holiday and roast turkey is the definitive centerpiece of the holiday feast.
But the domesticated turkey is not an American invention.
It's Mexican.
The bird was first domesticated in Mesoamerica, what is now Mexico, at around 800 B.C., says Julie Long, a turkey researcher with the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
"The Mesoamericans had turkey meat all the time," she says.
Enter the Spanish
When the Spanish conquistadors arrived in the 1500s, "They discovered these domesticated turkeys, which were a lot better than the birds they were eating in Europe," Long says.
The Spanish were used to eating birds like peacocks, pretty to look at, but not much meat on them.
"Those are just sort of scrawny little birds," she says. "And, of course, chickens at that time were scrawny little birds."
Compared to a nice, meaty turkey, it was no contest.
Turkey conquers Europe
Along with corn, peppers and tomatoes, the Spanish took turkeys back to Europe with them.
Over the next 100 years, turkeys spread from Spain to Holland and all the way up to England, where goose was the traditional English Christmas feast until turkey came to town.
"To the English at the time, they thought they tasted better than a goose," Long says. "So at Christmas you would actually be doing very well if you got a turkey as opposed to a goose."
Back to the Americas
From 17th-century England, turkeys made their way back to the Americas. English settlers brought the birds and other livestock with them to the Massachusetts Bay Colony in the 1630s.
A decade or so earlier, when the Pilgrims landed in nearby Plymouth, they found the woods were already full of wild turkeys, distant cousins of the birds domesticated in Mesoamerica.
Pilgrim writings "refer to turkeys as being ‘fat and sweet,’" says Kathleen Wall, a colonial food expert at the Plimoth Plantation museum in Plymouth, Massachusetts. She says the birds also made for easy hunting.
"You can go out at twilight and the turkeys roost in trees and you can shoot them off their roost. They sit still while you shoot at them," Wall says.
Wild turkeys decline
Fat, sweet and easy to shoot, it didn't take long before colonists like Gov. William Bradford started writing about the wild turkey's decline.
"One of the things he mentions in the 1640s is how things that were so abundant in 1620 and in 1630 are suddenly disappearing," Wall says.
By the late 1640s, it was a good idea to raise domesticated turkeys because the wild birds were getting harder to find.
Their populations continued to decline as America moved west, hitting a low point in the 1930s.
Recovery
Conservation efforts in the late 20th century started bringing the wild turkey back. Wall says there are enough of them today that occasional attacks on suburbanites are reported.
One turkey that repeatedly attacked a Massachusetts postman had to be forcibly relocated.
As for the original Mexican wild turkey - the great-great grandfather of today's Thanksgiving bird - the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Long says it's probably extinct.
"There are some turkeys that are down there that exist on preserves," she says. "But nobody knows for sure whether those are the original wild birds."
But its descendents live on at the heart of the American Thanksgiving celebration.
Source: http://www.voanews.com/content/us-thanksgiving-turkey-is-mexican-immigrant/1550452.html
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InkaRoads
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Any cooked food is allow thru the border with no problem, it is the uncooked food that is what SAGARPA is looking for. Follow the link http://sistemas1.senasica.gob.mx/PlantaAcreditada/ it will ask you to choose between "pregunta en general" o "pregunta especifica" you can choose depending on your inquiry for general info or a brand in particular, then you will have a drop box to choose from:
A- Tipo de planta: Carnicos = meats, Lacteos = Dairy, Harina de rendimiento = flours, Pieles y cueros= leather and furs
once you choose from the above list another drop box will appear that ask for "pais de origen" click on the country you are coming from and the spreadsheet will download with all the info, it is in this list that you will find the codes for the manufacturers to enter into the specific search by brand/company (pregunta especifica), this list shows all the brands of animal products allow in Mexico as long as they are in unopened package, on the list you will find the terms:
avicola = poultry
porcino = pork
bovino = bovine
ovino = ovine
when ever I get a hold of a cake I eat too!!!