If you find yourself in Cholla Bay anytime soon be sure to stop by the little houses being totally remodeled. They are 3 of 70 houses that the Browns built a long long time ago and had been abandoned for decades. Most of the other 70 homes that were exactly the same have all been remodeled by their respective owners over the last while.
They are small at 880 sq feet perfect for a weekend home. They are all electric, the structural wood has all been removed and replaced with concrete over stryofoam. They are solid houses that will last virtually forever. All systems are brand new New septic, new Electric, new plumbing. no surprises.
Yeah I know a bit about the mini splits, the article you posted is 12 years old and the mini split technology is so far advanced. The ceiling height in that room is almost 10 feet, the mini is installed about a foot lower it has maximum cooling ability. The 2 bedrooms are pre-wired for minis as well but the one unit in the living room which is a 2 ton unit seems to be fine for the whole house. The compressor unit is mounted on the roof just a few feet from the head unit, the wiring and copper tubing are concealed in the structure and are only 8 lineal feet in length. It was pro installed and has a guarantee. As you know in Latin America mini-splits are super popular as ducting units are not as efficient.
Shouldn't this be in the real estate section?
Not that it really matters I suppose.
How's about listing some of the places in the Mirador. Probably a lot more house for less money in that area, and more to choose from.
Shouldn't this be in the real estate section?
Not that it really matters I suppose.
How's about listing some of the places in the Mirador. Probably a lot more house for less money in that area, and more to choose from.
Hey Gil,
I was just bringing attention to the whole remodel movement going on out in Cholla. Although you could buy "more house" in other parts of town, like mine for instance is a huge house at 2400 sq ft but is not close to the water so it won't fetch what something out there will. Plus in some of the older houses you have to factor in aging electrical, plumbing, unknown issues with septic.
Yeah thats cool, I just figured since you get around you might have a line on or have seen other places in the Mirador.
Since the area specific section of the forum are gone.
Good info,
I have seen about dozen mini split units installed in houses in Cholla including mine and found the local installers did excellent work.
I am amazed that you can get a 24,000 BTU off brand system installed for $740. (2013 pricing)
In the US it is about $2,000 for a similar off brand install.
Mine is still going strong after 4 years but I cover up the condensing unit when I am gone.
Yeah I know a bit about the mini splits, the article you posted is 12 years old and the mini split technology is so far advanced. The ceiling height in that room is almost 10 feet, the mini is installed about a foot lower it has maximum cooling ability. The 2 bedrooms are pre-wired for minis as well but the one unit in the living room which is a 2 ton unit seems to be fine for the whole house. The compressor unit is mounted on the roof just a few feet from the head unit, the wiring and copper tubing are concealed in the structure and are only 8 lineal feet in length. It was pro installed and has a guarantee. As you know in Latin America mini-splits are super popular as ducting units are not as efficient.
my comment is from seeing a lot of bad installs/You made the right choice in having a pro with proper toos and gages..the mexican installs seem to always screw up the flair when it goes wrong...what seer is it?Variable speed? best practice according to my guru is always pressure check with 200psi of nitrogen. Then he checks all the joints with snoop or other liquid leak detector. Do a standing pressure check for 30 min to 1 hour (overnight if possible). If there is no drop in pressure pull a vacuum to 200-300 microns, then isolate vacuum pump and make sure there is no rise in pressure above 500 microns. inverter
I was just bringing attention to the whole remodel movement going on out in Cholla. Although you could buy "more house" in other parts of town, like mine for instance is a huge house at 2400 sq ft but is not close to the water so it won't fetch what something out there will. Plus in some of the older houses you have to factor in aging electrical, plumbing, unknown issues with septic.
Question... I know there a lot of variables here, but assuming I had a small lot in Cholla Bay, what would it cost me to have a reliable local builder do a ~ 1,200 sq ft 3br/2ba (small bedrooms) house w/ A/C, Mexican finishes (tile floors, counter tops)?
Nothing againt Russ but I would not pass a single penny on a deal in Cholla till the Notory has processed all the paperwork and issued a letter of instructions to the bank to start the bank trust.
Nothing againt Russ but I would not pass a single penny on a deal in Cholla till the Notory has processed all the paperwork and issued a letter of instructions to the bank to start the bank trust.
Pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't you do that on any home purchase down there.
Ok before this post gets out of hand with intimations and all.
These houses had perfected bank trust already, they were what is called "rectified" they had no problems at all, they were purchased from the American owners through the standard bank trust system, they are now held in a Mexican Corporation that also is clean. As it is now they are "assets" of the corporation and as such can easily be transferred out of the corporation when they are purchased from the corporation. The bank will not proceed with the sale unless the trust can be easily obtained in the asset purchasers name.
The problems Cholla Bay had along with other properties in Mexico in general are being resolved. All properties in Cholla Bay are being rectified on a piece by piece program. In the past folks would buy a piece of property without doing any kind of search into it's background and some had problems. They hand over the money to the seller and "hoped" they would get a trust. Sorry folks but you must use an attorney and work through the system to avoid future problems.
GV is right. If you buy a piece of property with or without a house on it without checking into it's past are taking a chance.
I personally own properties that are not rectified yet. We got a good deal on them and we are going through the rectification process to clean them up and standardize them for Bank Trust and eventually title. It is not difficult it is just time consuming.
The use of the term "bad titles" is a misnomer - they houses either have "Bank Trust" or not.
Shouldn't this be in the real estate section?
Not that it really matters I suppose.
How's about listing some of the places in the Mirador. Probably a lot more house for less money in that area, and more to choose from.
Senor Toe;
Just saw this and I know of 3 very nice, almost identical, 2 bed, 2 bath homes in the Mirador, fenced and gated yards. Fully furnished in super condition. $125K, $127,5; and $130K. All have a current bank trust. 3 blocks to the Mirador beach in a quiet neighborhood.
Ok before this post gets out of hand with intimations and all.
These houses had perfected bank trust already, they were what is called "rectified" they had no problems at all, they were purchased from the American owners through the standard bank trust system,
I personally own properties that are not rectified yet. We got a good deal on them and we are going through the rectification process toclean them up and standardize them for Bank Trust and eventually title. It is not difficult it is just time consuming.
The use of the term "bad titles" is a misnomer - they houses either have "Bank Trust" or not.
I'm confused. Is 'rectified' a legal Mexican term or are you using it in it's dictionary meaning?
Rectified means Corrected to Webster. So if they had no problems at all and had perfected bank trusts, what needed to be 'rectified'? Who rectified them, you or the seller?
What do you mean 'Clean them up and standardize them for Bank Trust and eventually title? You intend to put them into a trust then into a Mex title after they are 'corrected"???
How can one purchase a property that the seller's ownership documents need to be corrected??
Property can be held with a Mexican Title under the right circumstances.
Ok before this post gets out of hand with intimations and all.
These houses had perfected bank trust already, they were what is called "rectified" they had no problems at all, they were purchased from the American owners through the standard bank trust system, they are now held in a Mexican Corporation that also is clean. As it is now they are "assets" of the corporation and as such can easily be transferred out of the corporation when they are purchased from the corporation. The bank will not proceed with the sale unless the trust can be easily obtained in the asset purchasers name.
The problems Cholla Bay had along with other properties in Mexico in general are being resolved. All properties in Cholla Bay are being rectified on a piece by piece program. In the past folks would buy a piece of property without doing any kind of search into it's background and some had problems. They hand over the money to the seller and "hoped" they would get a trust. Sorry folks but you must use an attorney and work through the system to avoid future problems.
GV is right. If you buy a piece of property with or without a house on it without checking into it's past are taking a chance.
I personally own properties that are not rectified yet. We got a good deal on them and we are going through the rectification process to clean them up and standardize them for Bank Trust and eventually title. It is not difficult it is just time consuming.
The use of the term "bad titles" is a misnomer - they houses either have "Bank Trust" or not.
I hope rectify does not have the same "nod and a wink" meaning that I heard it used in regards to titles south of Lobos a few years ago.Money paid to functionaries in the office wipe the records clean did not work in the long run.So what 'rectified' means and who did the rectification in this case is of interest.
Hi jerry
I am the person headed up the bank trust movement in cholla bay. You can check out my history on the Hoa news letters and other postings I have done. I see you and other members have posted my publishings. Thank you for that.
Education of the legal body of a bank trust is a must for any one buying in rocky point.
Cbbanktrust and Russ I was not trying to be a dick about this just time to have it all right so guys like Padres and this homeport "expert" don't rip it off later
Hermosillo, Sonora.- Today at noon was held a federal court hearing in the Fifth District Court based in Hermosillo where the drug lord Alfredo Alvarez Vergara demand protection against SEDATU (Ministry of Agrarian Development, Territorial and Urban ) because this secretariat not want titularle a national land in Puerto Penasco he already sold and charged for his part.
According to a document that makes us reach one of the affected parties and requesting privacy given the dangerous Alfredo Vergara ties to organized crime, for several years the known drug dealer, now apparently expert in nautical tourism (Home Port) and "acquisition" of National Lands ( Hippodrome in Hermosillo , Ejido Heraclio Bernal in Caborca ), for several years has been marketing public lands covered by a duckling title that the notary known Hermosillo, Attorney José Otero Valenzuela , he built on a judicial decision distorted, in an area of thousands of hectares in Puerto Penasco. After being sold land at $ 30,000 per hectare, suddenly "remembers" that has not yet acquired the Nation and proceeds to try to make the process of obtaining title. And as the SEDATU of Jorge Carlos Ramirez Marin , the irregularities and despite his connections, not yield to their demands, the demand via an injunction. They want me to sell them and they sell them cheap.
In the list of buyers of such illegal land titles that have awarded Vergara and partners with strong peso and dollar amounts, various natural and legal persons and foreign Sonora they appear. The list includes all types of buyers, from tourism entrepreneurs and gasoline, up suspects ombudsmen in the "movement of goods" on our border with the United States
Hi jerry
I am the person headed up the bank trust movement in cholla bay. You can check out my history on the Hoa news letters and other postings I have done. I see you and other members have posted my publishings. Thank you for that.
Education of the legal body of a bank trust is a must for any one buying in rocky point.
Cholla bay bank trust said:
I am working on putting together a work shop every third sat to explaine the rectification process and other bank trust issues.
So to understand what rectification means we need to take your seminar. Surely you can do better than that
I had to find a new proctologist years back because when I bent over table, I looked over my shoulder batted my eyes and said "your the only one I let do this. He did not think it was funny and asked me to find another.
