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Sonoyta Still Hot!

Started by Mexico Joe · Jan 31, 2016 · 26 replies
Mexico Joe
Surprised Jerry hasn't posted about this yet, he must be slipping in his old age.

I haven't posted in forever but I've been creeping from a distance like 98% of our members... Haven't been down since last May but still keeping up on Sonora.

Looks like Sonoyta is still hot, not that we didn't already know that but again, good to be aware.

Joint operation in Sonoyta...

http://www.elblogdelnarco.com/2016/01/caen-22-miembros-del-c%C3%A1rtel-de-sinaloa-en-sonora-.html


AP article

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-mexican-operation-targets-high-level-sinaloa-cartel-165756105.html


#Sonora4Life
Terry C
I started a post about it and it's been gone from step 1 (is it true) to step 10 ( it did happen)
jerry
The operation was a complete flop..,.arrested some ranch hands,a few gunmen but no big fish......better luck next time
mexicoruss
oh geez......
jerry
http://noticieros.televisa.com/mexico-estados/1602/aseguran-mas-2-toneladas-droga-sonora/ but this left a mark! Go Broncos!
jerry
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jerry
If injured in Sonoyta it might be a good idea to avoid the Red Cross....might wake up in a bathtub full of ice with one less kidney the way these jokers roll...
jerry
At a clinic in Sonoyta there have been multiple cases of people being suckered into paying 3000 peso's for ambulance to Penasco because they are in a near death state....then never mind you are pk
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
At a clinic in Sonoyta there have been multiple cases of people being suckered into paying 3000 peso's for ambulance to Penasco because they are in a near death state....then never mind you are pk



The title says, "They sell public security (insurance) to the narco". Well that's weird. I always donate to the red cross when I come through Sonoyta after what happened to me in 2010. Should I take the Red Cross sticker off of my dash?! Kind of thought it was like a sponsorship... I have been proud to display my hipster red cross sticker on my dash when Im down south...
Jungle Jim
Hey Joe....

Last week, during our three hour wait to get back to USSA at the San Luis, Sonora crossing we were approached by three twentyish slim, young long haired cuties with tight cut tailored Red Cross vests and little collection bags. I saw them hit up and get some cash from almost every car in the lineup. By the time we made it to pole position I saw them pullin' off the vests, ballin' em up and headin' south. They were really yuckin' it up, struttin', slappin' each others butts and went into one of the whore bars just off the main drag.

I don't think your hipster sticker means anything to the locals other that you got SUCKERED! and they all know it. Ever see loclas drop some coin on em?

Wait till you get to Guymas and see em in traffic. If you don't pay up they smash their empty buckets into your truck.

JJ
marybna
Last week I talked to someone whose family lives in Sonoyta. She said they do not like the tourist because they drive thru town and only spend money at PEMEX on the way out. The tourist go spend all their money in Penasco and do all the charity work for Penasco. Dog food, and clothes etc. I never thought of that.
Mexico Joe
marybna said:
Last week I talked to someone whose family lives in Sonoyta. She said they do not like the tourist because they drive thru town and only spend money at PEMEX on the way out. The tourist go spend all their money in Penasco and do all the charity work for Penasco. Dog food, and clothes etc. I never thought of that.



Do you regularly spend money in Gila Bend or Ajo/Why when passing through? No difference. I used to travel to the White Mountains a lot and I don't ever recall spending money in Heber/Overgaard although you do HAVE to pass through it. I understand their plight but this is the classic "you're a gringo give me your money for no reason" card. Ever go to the Malecon and have a business owner verbally give you shit for not wanting to spend money in his or her store??? Happens all the time because I'm white, I must have money to spend on shit that neither I want or need because there is an unspoken obligation to spend money as a gringo tourist while in town. There is no obligation to do anything that I do not wish to do EVER. I'm broke but still enjoy spending my time in Rocky Point however, I am not obligated to spend money regardless of how they perceive me.

The people of Sonoyta and much of Rocky Point need access to simple education in business. Provide something that I NEED and you will make money. I guarantee if you opened up a "get out of a false speeding ticket business" by buying a $5 pass to get through Sonoyta, that business would kill.

Who wants to stop in Sonoyta when police harassment is at an all time high? I'd be happy paying a $2 per vehicle tax to pass through without altercation EVERY TIME down. There you go right there. Of course we know that money would NEVER make it to the people that need it.

Lastly, even the businesses that make money and have something that I NEED still pay EXTORTION FEES to the MAN so in the end it is hard to make a living in Mexico at this time of unprecedented corruption and collusion. Ever think about that?
Jungle Jim
Hey Marybna and Joe,

The fine art of ripping off travelers has been around as long as mankind has been in the travelin' mood. The good ole' USSA has always had some of the best.

Back in the 40's and 50's the worst of the worst were little family owned "one horse" towns where there was one gas station, one restaurant, one motel, one cop and one Justice of the Peace. Grand dad was the station owner and Judge, the two or three sons were the cop, gas station attendant and mechanic. The mom and daughters were the cooks, waitresses and maids at the motel.

The typical scenario was as follows: Mindless, trusting Bob his wife and two kids are headin' from LA to the Grand Canyon. They stop at the Big Tee Pee filling station in Buggerville Az to gas up, he leaves the fill up the the attendant and goes to take a leak while the wife and kids check out the eatery for a snack and soda pop. The car now unattended is in the hands of son # 1, Homer. Homer is checking under the hood and has a nice big screwdriver in his pocket that he uses to punch a nice big hole in Bob's radiator. Bob and family return to their car, fire it up and continue on their merry way.

Ten or fifteen miles down the road Bob's radiator overheats, the cylinder head gasket blows and God forbid the scorching engine seizes up. So who ya gonna call? Of course the only service station within miles, the Big Tee Pee. They arrive with a tow truck, son #2 Bert, the mechanic hooks em up and a fifty dollar tow later they are back in Buggerville. Bert looks at the engine, says no problema we can get you a cylinder head gasket in just two days. Meanwhile you can partake of our fine dining and the only lodging for a hundred miles in any direction.

After two wonderful days eatin' greasy grub and the fine lodging without any AC, Bob and la familia are on the way, less four or five hundred bucks that they planed on spending on their vacation. Pissed off Bob speeds off into the sunset only to be pulled over by the only cop, son #3 Maynard for excessive speed. Maynard tells Bob to follow him back to Buggerville to meet with the Judge about the ticket. It's after four in the afternoon and the Judge won't be back in his office until 9 the next morning.

Guess what Bob and la familia must do now? Another nite in Buggerville!

Nothing has changed nor ever will. The worst of the worst are STILL IN BUSINESS. Just look at Gila Bend, Ajo, Sonoita, Puerto Penasco, El Golfo, San Luis RC and San Luis AZ, those towns and hundreds more still exist on the Rip Off Highway of unwary travelers.

Just sayin'

JJ
MIRAMAR
We get our tacos, shrimp cocktails, some groceries, and sometimes gas in Sonoyta. We have made friends with several wonderful families there, and bring their kids toys and bicycles.
jerry
Sonoytas new mayor is commonly viewed as in the pocket of the Memos gang.The people of the town are in bad shape and fear their leaders.....word is they have a new scam,go through your stuff and threaten to jail you for drugs like sudafed ...the cost to get out is 500 us dollars....but everything can be negotiated...
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
Sonoytas new mayor is commonly viewed as in the pocket of the Memos gang.The people of the town are in bad shape and fear their leaders.....word is they have a new scam,go through your stuff and threaten to jail you for drugs like sudafed ...the cost to get out is 500 us dollars....but everything can be negotiated...



Is that "supposedly" happening to Americans or Nationals?
jerry
Mexico Joe said:
Is that "supposedly" happening to Americans or Nationals?

American...heard it friend of friend ...thought it sounded crazy then I read this. https://ksl.com/?sid=39206496&nid=148
Beach Sand
Jungle Jim said:
Hey Marybna and Joe,

The fine art of ripping off travelers has been around as long as mankind has been in the travelin' mood. The good ole' USSA has always had some of the best.

Back in the 40's and 50's the worst of the worst were little family owned "one horse" towns where there was one gas station, one restaurant, one motel, one cop and one Justice of the Peace. Grand dad was the station owner and Judge, the two or three sons were the cop, gas station attendant and mechanic. The mom and daughters were the cooks, waitresses and maids at the motel.

The typical scenario was as follows: Mindless, trusting Bob his wife and two kids are headin' from LA to the Grand Canyon. They stop at the Big Tee Pee filling station in Buggerville Az to gas up, he leaves the fill up the the attendant and goes to take a leak while the wife and kids check out the eatery for a snack and soda pop. The car now unattended is in the hands of son # 1, Homer. Homer is checking under the hood and has a nice big screwdriver in his pocket that he uses to punch a nice big hole in Bob's radiator. Bob and family return to their car, fire it up and continue on their merry way.

Ten or fifteen miles down the road Bob's radiator overheats, the cylinder head gasket blows and God forbid the scorching engine seizes up. So who ya gonna call? Of course the only service station within miles, the Big Tee Pee. They arrive with a tow truck, son #2 Bert, the mechanic hooks em up and a fifty dollar tow later they are back in Buggerville. Bert looks at the engine, says no problema we can get you a cylinder head gasket in just two days. Meanwhile you can partake of our fine dining and the only lodging for a hundred miles in any direction.

After two wonderful days eatin' greasy grub and the fine lodging without any AC, Bob and la familia are on the way, less four or five hundred bucks that they planed on spending on their vacation. Pissed off Bob speeds off into the sunset only to be pulled over by the only cop, son #3 Maynard for excessive speed. Maynard tells Bob to follow him back to Buggerville to meet with the Judge about the ticket. It's after four in the afternoon and the Judge won't be back in his office until 9 the next morning.

Guess what Bob and la familia must do now? Another nite in Buggerville!

Nothing has changed nor ever will. The worst of the worst are STILL IN BUSINESS. Just look at Gila Bend, Ajo, Sonoita, Puerto Penasco, El Golfo, San Luis RC and San Luis AZ, those towns and hundreds more still exist on the Rip Off Highway of unwary travelers.

Just sayin'

JJ

You obviously don't know what you are talking about when you are referring to Gila Bend and Ajo. And please do not speak of the great county of the United States of America as you have, many of us have great respect for it and your rhetoric only belittles your self and your respect you so desire. Thank you.
marybna
After reading these I am beginning to wonder if I am just too old for Mexico.
jerry
Fronter @ sonoyt @.... The Tranquility of the scourges that advocates of the government through its website sonoyta in motion.... Was interrupted the morning and rest of the morning of today by registering a number of shootings in our community.... Well into the early morning hours were heard heavy calibre weapons for the sector of the colony center, and between 10:00 and 11:00 in the morning in the very centre of the city there was another shooting... We ask our community shelter in their homes and for any reason to be exposed to be in the crossfire between criminals and authorities,.... According to reports comes a strong operational, to deliver the plaza or to fight it... Something more to our community be careful commenting on, or that acseda to their family data the page of the narc government sonoyta in motion, it's not anything other than the cover of the drug dealer and the government..... But the decision is yours.... Fronter @ SONOYT@....
Jungle Jim
Hey Beach Sand......

Take a few minutes and pull your head out of that hole in the beach sand.

JJ
Beach Sand
Jungle Jim said:
Hey Beach Sand......

Take a few minutes and pull your head out of that hole in the beach sand.

JJ


Please elaborate on your above quote JJ? Many here don't appreciate when others speak of Rocky Point in a negative way, just the same as you continually put down the origin of many of us that enjoy visiting Mexico by referring to the USA as the USSA. I myself take the information about Sonoyta to be very informative as it is my main route to Rocky Point. I have yet to hear of any instances as you refer to in either Gila Bend or Ajo that can compare to Sonoyta in the last 41 years that I've been here.
Jungle Jim
Hey BS..........

If you have the time you might browse this discussion 'Border' and take note that the number one most common subject is the rotten criminal cops of Sonoyta, Sonora, Mexico and PP.

For anyone that has made the drive from I-8 South on Hwy 85 to Lukeville how many times have you seen or been stopped DPS especially in the Black Gap area? That stretch is a first class 'Speed Trap'. Smokey makes a killin' there due to posting a speed limit so slow that 99 of of 100 vehicles will qualify for a speeding ticket.

As for Gila Bend, the main drag qualifies as a speed trap as well. Of the four county Sheriff vehicles that patrol that stretch usually all four are writing up speeding tickets. Hwy 85 from Gila Bend to Buckeye is another trap with an unjustified low speed limit so the Man can prey on almost every vehicle on the road.

I-8 West from the Gila Mountains to the California line is a known feeding frenzy for all three branches of LEO's. The highway speed drops from seventy five to sixty for no justifiable reason other than line the coffers of the state, county and city.

I-8 West of Yuma is just like running a gauntlet of CHP vehicles. At any time there are a dozen of them on the shoulder writing speeding tickets. I was just plain stupified when a few years back, I had pulled into the rest stop at Grey's Well in the Imperial Dunes area and a CHP pulled up behind me and said he was going to write me up for speeding. He actually had the balls to write a ticket for my truck and another for the boat trailer! That was to be a heap of green for the sleepy little Winterhaven California Justice Court. I went to the court there to contest the two $110.00 fines especially since I was PARKED off of the highway when the cop approached me. Which by the way the charges were dropped.

As for the 'elaborate on my above quote', you can't tell me that you have never heard the cliche about the Ostrich with his head in the sand, or worse, up his a**?

And by the way, I have sworn my oath seven times and been around the world a few times to say the least.

JJ
jerry
Fronter @ [email protected]ÁGENES of today's shooting in the morning where was seriously wounded Raul Espinoza, on the side of liqueurs Tony a few metres from the central command of the municipal police.... The Bursts of heavy calibre weapons were heard in large part of the community, putting at risk to families that were in the place... According to our sources it is derived from the sale of cocaine in the streets (shooters..)... Fronter @ SONOYT@...
Queen of Kings
I am confused why drivers cannot obey the posted speed limits. If you don't want a speeding ticket in the US, don't speed. It really is that simple. In Mexico that may or may not be true. Police are there to slow people down because SPEED KILLS.
marybna
We used to go Mazatlán about 3 times a year. Penasco is easier but I miss going to Mazatlán. We were at El Cid Marina and had just pulled out on the street. Flashing red light. Cop said he followed us for a few blocks and we were going 50 mph. The bellman came down and spoke to him in Spanish and he left. WE were 15 feet from the hotel driveway. We always watch our speed but in that case it would not have mattered. I now turn on the cell phone and record the speedometer in the car going thru Sonoyta.
TICO-T
Queen of Kings said:
I am confused why drivers cannot obey the posted speed limits. If you don't want a speeding ticket in the US, don't speed. It really is that simple. In Mexico that may or may not be true. Police are there to slow people down because SPEED KILLS.

Yes going 30 in a 20 in Sonoyta is killing 5 or 6 people a week. SPEED KILLS! SI!