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kayaks under a grand

Started by jerry · Jul 21, 2017 · 52 replies
jerry
http://www.gearweare.com/review/best-fishing-kayaks/ really nice rundown huge tide tomorrow
chill53
I like the Hobie Mirage Pro Angler 12.
jerry
https://tomgatchblog.wordpress.com/2017/09/03/hoop-netting-for-california-spiny-lobster/. Got one and plan on trying south of lobos...good how to tips
Vromm
Jerry, that looks fun to try!
Catch-All
chill53 said:
I like the Hobie Mirage Pro Angler 12.

don't buy one. The rudder on them is tiny. It's impossible to steer them. Also, the rudder pin is poorly designed and sheers off easily.

I have a Revo 13. Don't buy one of them either. Very tippy and you have to spend a bunch of money to make it barely fishable. Larger rudder, turbo fins and masts, etc.

If you absolutely have to buy a Hobie, then buy the Outback. It's wide-ish and more stable. Has two drink holders! Yay! You still have to buy the optional large rudder and the turbo fins and masts.

If you want a foot-powered yak there are plenty of excellent choices out there now; NuCanoe, FeelFree (FishSlayer), Native, Perception, Wilderness.

Catch
Kiter
I have been using a Wilderness System Tarpon 12' for about seven years and have loved it. I saw the Hobie pro Angler on display at Phoenix Fishing Supply and inquired. Yes, it is heavy, but the base price is also over three grand. Also, with all it's under-kayak rudders, pulling it through sand would be a real challenge.
jerry
IMG_20150504_171808775_HDR-288x512.jpg IMG_20150504_171808775_HDR-288x512.jpg bought this a few years ago from a guy knocking on heavens door.I have had bad weather luck or just to short a stay to outfit it...lazy I guess....but I have the little weed eater type motor down in mexico.First time I used it I found he had disconnected the deadmans switch after it slipped from my hand....went in circles till it ran out of gas! Kayak itself is a great casting platform...
MIRAMAR
What motor do you have on it? We're looking to get one, used is good
jerry
MIRAMAR said:
What motor do you have on it? We're looking to get one, used is good
it come with 2...the Honda 2hp is by far the best///I have it on my canoe in Idaho...bullet proof....watch Craigslist list but hard to get a deal
jerry
Jet kayak????https://awesomestuff365.com/cool-kayaks/
jerry
http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/outdoors/article191494744.html but don't load in on one of these nightmares
Fisherman2008
I have a pro angler 12 and my buddy has the 14 - they are amazing boats for fishing; fast, stable, comfortable seats, and well laid out - the only drawback for me is the weight - they are pretty heavy boats and if you need to get them over a rocky shore or up a steep embankment, it's quite a workout. We have fished them in lakes and the ocean (Rocky Point) and had a great time with them. Neither of us have had any rudder problems and FWIW I can turn a pretty tight circle with mine. The seat and the mirage drive were the two big reasons I switched from a standard yak to the hobie - it's the most comfortable and fastest kayak I've used. A bit pricey, but I found mine used for a great price and figure that with the limited time i get on the water, I want to enjoy it. :)
AzDave
I love my Hobie! I almost went with the Pro Angler, but just too big for me, plus I need to carry rooftop so I went with the Outback. Hobie sure is proud of their stuff, and this doesn't fit the post for kayaks under a grand. I splurged and bought a new one early this year, mainly cause new in 2017 Hobie added a reverse in the mirage drive unit. Like Fisherman just said, these can go fast. I've been over a mile out many times with no worries.

Best boy toy ever! Every trip I've taken this year included my kayak. Was just down to Rocky Point two weeks ago. Took a day and fished Puerto Lobos. It was a day the ocean was like glass. No luck on any yellowtail, but got a sore arm on the mondo triggers and spotted bass! So much fun catching in a kayak.!
Fisherman2008
Best boy toy ever! Every trip I've taken this year included my kayak. Was just down to Rocky Point two weeks ago. Took a day and fished Puerto Lobos. It was a day the ocean was like glass. No luck on any yellowtail, but got a sore arm on the mondo triggers and spotted bass! So much fun catching in a kayak.![/QUOTE]

Not to hijack the thread, but wondering where you stayed when you were in Puerto Lobos? I've been going to RP since 1980 but never ventured down to Puerto Lobos. Did you launch off the beach or is there a public ramp that can be used? We have a trailer that holds the kayaks but we can use the carts if necessary.

Thx,

Terry
jerry
Fisherman2008 said:
Best boy toy ever! Every trip I've taken this year included my kayak. Was just down to Rocky Point two weeks ago. Took a day and fished Puerto Lobos. It was a day the ocean was like glass. No luck on any yellowtail, but got a sore arm on the mondo triggers and spotted bass! So much fun catching in a kayak.!


Not to hijack the thread, but wondering where you stayed when you were in Puerto Lobos? I've been going to RP since 1980 but never ventured down to Puerto Lobos. Did you launch off the beach or is there a public ramp that can be used? We have a trailer that holds the kayaks but we can use the carts if necessary.

Thx,

Terry[/QUOTE]
Terry across the street from the really big boat garage is a nice duplex..think it is reasonable..the guy that watches the boat storage garage used to take care of the rental...think it's Samuels place..
jerry
Also you guys need to explore Tanques south of Desemboque. btw, two sisters from Chihuahua bought the Playa Dorada Desemboque. One of them is an architect, they are completely renovating the place, due to re-open in March. I'll add you to the mailing list for updates if you'd like
AzDave
Just parked off the main road by the boat launching area. It is all hard sand and didn't have any problem wheeling it in. It was just a day trip, hit the water at sunrise, and out by 3. Was kindof looking for a someone to join me. If you down there a lot Fisherman, I'll drop you a text next time I'm down, maybe we can hit it.

I think I attached a pic of my rig.

Sure do appreciate this Forum! specially the fishing parts....:).

Dave
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Dave, nice boat! This is mine with my oldest helping Dad wheel it out (it came with a sail and i was trying my hand at sailing)....hopefully I'll get out fishing after my Javelina hunt. Hit me up if you are going down.

Terry
audsley
Jerry,
What's the attraction at the Tanques? I drive by and see the sign but have never gone over there.
jerry
audsley said:
Jerry,
What's the attraction at the Tanques? I drive by and see the sign but have never gone over there.

interesting small coastal lagoon.. even noted by the British in earliest reports on the region as a place the small boats could safely lay up in a storm if tides ate right. ...sort of a little bay at high tide with mysterious artesian springs that seem to come and go......fun in kàyaks and surface lures get hits.....
jerry
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Mexico Joe
AzDave said:
Just parked off the main road by the boat launching area. It is all hard sand and didn't have any problem wheeling it in. It was just a day trip, hit the water at sunrise, and out by 3. Was kindof looking for a someone to join me. If you down there a lot Fisherman, I'll drop you a text next time I'm down, maybe we can hit it.

I think I attached a pic of my rig.

Sure do appreciate this Forum! specially the fishing parts....:).

Dave



AZ Dave, I've been looking for kayak fishing acquaintances on this forum for more than a few years now... if you EVER want to fish Lobos and you give me decent notice I'm IN. Been there twice, fished once but haven't been back in about 4 years now this February. Just don't feel comfortable going all that way by myself. Would love to get back.
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
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Jerry, is that THE SPIT?
jerry
Mexico Joe said:
Jerry, is that THE SPIT?

hi Joe. they look the same from that angle........but it is Tanques
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jerry
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AzDave
Mexico Joe said:
AZ Dave, I've been looking for kayak fishing acquaintances on this forum for more than a few years now... if you EVER want to fish Lobos and you give me decent notice I'm IN. Been there twice, fished once but haven't been back in about 4 years now this February. Just don't feel comfortable going all that way by myself. Would love to get back.


You got it Joe!
jerry
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SunDevil
Windy this week down there Jerry. They fished on Saturday but came in early. They saw a great white feeding on a dead sea lion.
AzDave
Mexico Joe said:
AZ Dave, I've been looking for kayak fishing acquaintances on this forum for more than a few years now... if you EVER want to fish Lobos and you give me decent notice I'm IN. Been there twice, fished once but haven't been back in about 4 years now this February. Just don't feel comfortable going all that way by myself. Would love to get back.


Hey Joe - you down in RP? I tried to message you, started a 'conversation' last week. Anyways, I plan to fish Lobos on Thursday, looking good for the kayak.

Later, Dave
jerry
https://www.sierratradingpost.com/ocean-kayak-trident-ultra-47-recreation-kayak-2nds~p~132vf/
jerry
Well gave up on my combo kayak/paddleboard after 3 years of bad luck with wind.,out of 18 trips in 3 plus years I would say 12 we're to windy for the damn thing....It is headed for Cascade lake in Idaho ....
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jerry
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Nicolai
So, new member here, been going to Cholla Bay all my life just getting into kayaking anf kayak Fishing, picking up a used tarpon 120 soon. Any tips or advice on this subject? How hard is it to paddle the current in front of Tucson beach/pelican point. I know it is difficult to swim it. Thanks!
Roberto
Mexico Joe is the go to guy for this topic. both Cholla fishing and kayak fishing,
Nicolai
Great maybe hell come across,this thread shortly thanks.
AzDave
I've fished that a couple times in a paddle kayak without any problems. Went as tide was coming in. I did best working the current. Head southish to the point along the rocky shore, paddling into the current. Then drift on back. Find rocky bottom and you will find plenty of fish. Biggest trigger I ever caught was off that point.

Good to have an anchor to use, so not as much work to keep on a spot.

Good Luck!
AzDave
Here's a pic of those triggers.
Nicolai
AZ Dave, thank you man, im looking forward to it and i will definitely take your advice on the drift with the current and an anchor.
ernesto
Those triggers make excellent fish tacos! Definitely under rated.
AzDave
Ooops, lets try the pic again.!
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Nicolai
AzDave said:
Ooops, lets try the pic again.!

Gnarly man! Thats some good looking triggers!
Nicolai
Hey Dave, by chance do you take a radio out with you to communivare back to shore/radio shack? If so what kind do you use?
AzDave
Not yet, but looking at portable marine radio's.
Nicolai
Yeah, i have seen a few, still havent purchased one yet, however, i did get my PFD and a fish finder for the Yak. Hoping for some calm weather come may/June. Only have taken it out once on Roosevelt lake. Im just trying to imagine what it was like catching that 5lb trigger you got, i mean the little ones fight hard! Maybe i need a medium heavy pole and a bigger reel. Curently have a Penn Clash 5000. I feel a big enough fish would just pull ya under haha.
Mexico Joe
Nicolai, nice score on the Tarpon 120. Those are nice yaks... I wouldn't worry about a VHF radio for the kayak. You're never going to be more than a few hundred yards off shore at the most and at the least you'll be fishing the rocks on Pelican Point over to Pinto Point pretty close in. The current and tide can be extreme on given weekends so check the tide report before you go out and try to familiarize yourself with the tide chart. Try to fish slack tide days when the difference between the low and high tide is minimal. Also check the wind report. Wind can get nasty and when it blows hard your back and triceps are going to be burning trying to get back into shore plus the waves can break over the yak but if you straddle with your legs over the side you won't tip. Keep your head up also... center of gravity can flip the yaks so where your head goes the yak goes. You start looking down and around you for something and a wave hits and boom you're in the water. Honestly, just understand that at some point you're going to flip the yak so make sure everything has a leash. I've lost a couple hundred dollars in gear learning the hard way not leashing rods and putting everything away strapped down or in the hull when not in use. Put a leash on your paddle and wear that PFD. If you can make it to Phoenix Fishing Supply tell them you're heading down to Cholla Bay they will set you up with some stuff to use but jig heads and scampi tails work best bottom fishing and you can also throw or troll lures... Have fun! Take some pics and share with the forum. Cholla Bay Sportsmans Club Fishing Derby starts this month with a $10 entry fee per weekend and they have a kayak category to enter.
CheddarBob
Great info MJ
Nicolai
Thanks Mexico Joe good information. I will definitely keep this all in mind. I plan on doing the CBSC derby again, last few years i onky did the surf category. The whole time i was thinking to myself "man if i could just cast out there a few more hundred yards" haha, ill be sure to get a few lanyards. Thanks! Have you ever made the journey from Tucson to the other side of competition hill on your Yak?
Mexico Joe
Nicolai said:
Thanks Mexico Joe good information. I will definitely keep this all in mind. I plan on doing the CBSC derby again, last few years i onky did the surf category. The whole time i was thinking to myself "man if i could just cast out there a few more hundred yards" haha, ill be sure to get a few lanyards. Thanks! Have you ever made the journey from Tucson to the other side of competition hill on your Yak?


Furthest I've paddled is JJs to white house on Pinto Point but that wasn't direct route that day. Had the GPS tracker on and if I recall correctly I think I paddled about 6 miles that day. If you pick a no wind and slack tide day it's easily doable to get to the backside of Competition. Just depends on how hard you want to grind coming in. If you have some GUNS and you're fit go for it. You'll be worn out at the end of the day but why not if you can. Good fishing from Pinto over past Competition heading towards Wrecked
Nicolai
Great, ill just have to warm up to it! Thanks, you doing the Derby this year as well?
Mexico Joe
Nicolai said:
Great, ill just have to warm up to it! Thanks, you doing the Derby this year as well?


I hope to make it down at least one of the weekends.
Wood Spinner
Mexico Joe said:
AZ Dave, I've been looking for kayak fishing acquaintances on this forum for more than a few years now... if you EVER want to fish Lobos and you give me decent notice I'm IN. Been there twice, fished once but haven't been back in about 4 years now this February. Just don't feel comfortable going all that way by myself. Would love to get back.

Hey, I fish off an inflatable pontoon but would like to join in. We generally spend the winter in RP Playa De Oro #50 I have fished off Pongas in Lobos and love it. I have also wondered about the closer fishing villages gut have not been to any of them. I have A Dodge diesel 4x4 crew cab with a fishing trailer so we could re-rig it to take several boats.
Nicolai
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