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Should we move this webpage to a Facebook group?

Started by tyler · Sep 25, 2018 · 63 replies

Do you have/use facebook?

Yes
17
No
31
48 voters
tyler
Forums are fairly outdated in this crazy technology world we live in. Most communication groups are moving towards Facebook groups now.

Please take this thread to let us know if you have/use facebook so we can get a better idea if this is a good move for us.
Roberto
I have it and use it some but don't like it. There are a few English language RP groups but they don't seem to have much action. Like The Real Rocky Point. I would prefer to leave it as is. It might increase the AHo## factor. I voted no.
mexicoruss
I use FB very often it is a great platform when used correctly and horrible when used to sponsor political ideas...but I would use either platform for Rocky Point conversations.
tyler
mexicoruss said:
I use FB very often it is a great platform when used correctly and horrible when used to sponsor political ideas...but I would use either platform for Rocky Point conversations.

Thank you for your input.
tyler
I've created the group to test the waters for now. An email will go out to all of our members. We have over 3000 members!
brokenwave
I am afraid that the FB RPT will attract the many FB people who can't even tie their own shoes without asking someone how or why or ask for the billionth time "Do I need a passport" ?
So many of the questions you read on the other FB RP pages could be answered if people weren't so lazy as to do a simple search.

And then you see 5 different answers of which 1-2 are correct and then FB hides many comments by stacking them, so they aren't seen so there too are multiple answers.
I could go on and on.
mexicoruss
brokenwave said:
I am afraid that the FB RPT will attract the many FB people who can't even tie their own shoes without asking someone how or why or ask for the billionth time "Do I need a passport" ?
So many of the questions you read on the other FB RP pages could be answered if people weren't so lazy as to do a simple search.

And then you see 5 different answers of which 1-2 are correct and then FB hides many comments by stacking them, so they aren't seen so there too are multiple answers.
I could go on and on.

it's not a perfect platform, it was designed to check out girls in college so it may have lost its way guey!
Stuart
Why not have both? One could point to the other for more info.

I'm not a Facebook fan for many reasons. I had an account but deleted it about a year ago. Too time consuming, too much drama (over everything), Facebook censors, advertises, and sells the crap out of your data. There are too many of those "that are easily offended" and social justice warrior types on Facebook.

I'd prefer to keep this site, its adult nature, but have no objection to a Facebook offshoot of same.
tyler
Over 100 people have joined the facebook group already - sounds like it's going to be a great success.
Stuart
tyler said:
Over 100 people have joined the facebook group already - sounds like it's going to be a great success.


Cool! Glad to see that kind of response!
dirtsurfer
tyler said:
Over 100 people have joined the facebook group already - sounds like it's going to be a great success.

I was not able to find it on FB
MIRAMAR
What's the group's name?
brokenwave
MIRAMAR said:
What's the group's name?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/RockyPointTalk
You need to click on the join button to be able to post, Tyler accepted me in 10 minutes
tyler
Sorry - I should have mentioned the group URL in this thread. My bad!
Kelney
I agree with having both platforms.
mondone
I'm with Kelney. I don't know how much longer I can stand to keep my FB account. It's getting too out of hand for my tastes.
Roberto
Someone sent me a really hilarious description of a senior trying to understand Facebook. Cannot find it of course but here's a short description, She decided to mirror the Facebook process in her daily life. Greeting strangers in the street and commenting on what she had for breakfast, etc. etc. She routinely asked people to follow her. She said it worked as she had a detective, one police and a mental health worker following her !! Poor description but I hope you get the hilarity.

Tyler, do you have problems or issues with maintaining this site as is???
Roberto
A really great read about how social media works , Facebook's business tactics and moral foundation. Hard to understand why someone worth BILLIONS works to brutally acquire more $$$.
I personally think this whole process of social media growth will implode in some way at some time.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2018/09/26/exclusive-whatsapp-cofounder-brian-acton-gives-the-inside-story-on-deletefacebook-and-why-he-left-850-million-behind/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily-dozen
audsley
The problem with Facebook is that you see everything. The beauty of a discussion forum is that it segregates subjects so you can ignore what you don't care about, and moderators can toss posts that are out of line or off topic.

There are three or four Facebook groups dedicated to Rocky Point. I recently joined one them just to see what I was missing. The answer is not much, or maybe I just joined the wrong group. Nothing is done on Facebook that couldn't be done here. Also, if you join several groups you'll get a ton of posts and have to scroll through everything and end of missing some unless you're on Facebook all the time. Facebook is now being used for things it was never designed for, and that creates problems.
ben21
I don't have Facebook, would love to see the forum continue is possible. But I understand that it costs time/money.
fatboyharley
Both please Facebook is too time consuming with all the posts to wade threw
jerry
The typical Facebook RP page does the following:

Tells you all is ponies and Unicorns...no bad press ( well until a moderator gets a speeding ticket)

Tells you where to buy crappy frozen shrimp

Tells you your condo rental fees are reasonable

Tells you you're stupid and deserve it if the police stop you

Tell you CHICAGO!

Tell you to pee on Sting Ray injuries

Tell you it's a good time to buy
dirtsurfer
jerry said:
The typical Facebook RP page does the following:

Tells you all is ponies and Unicorns...no bad press ( well until a moderator gets a speeding ticket)

Tells you where to buy crappy frozen shrimp

Tells you your condo rental fees are reasonable

Tells you you're stupid and deserve it if the police stop you

Tell you CHICAGO!

Tell you to pee on Sting Ray injuries

Tell you it's a good time to buy

Hey, I recently talked a “friend” into letting me pee on his sting ray wound, best pimp ever :)
Roberto
jerry said:
The typical Facebook RP page does the following:

Tells you all is ponies and Unicorns...no bad press ( well until a moderator gets a speeding ticket)

Tells you where to buy crappy frozen shrimp

Tells you your condo rental fees are reasonable

Tells you you're stupid and deserve it if the police stop you

Tell you CHICAGO!

Tell you to pee on Sting Ray injuries

Tell you it's a good time to buy


Somebody just posted on the RP Talk FB " Hi we're coming down to Las Palomas November 9!! That's important for us to know. Never mind first post and unknown person,. High quality information there.
jerry
Roberto said:
Somebody just posted on the RP Talk FB " Hi we're coming down to Las Palomas November 9!! That's important for us to know. Never mind first post and unknown person,. High quality information there.

I wonder where she can buy shrimp?
Stuart
50 million user accounts hacked on Facebook yesterday. For reals.
Terry C
Roberto said:
Somebody just posted on the RP Talk FB " Hi we're coming down to Las Palomas November 9!! That's important for us to know. Never mind first post and unknown person,. High quality information there.

Do i need a passport to enter Rock Point, Where is the best fish taco's, can i bring my dog!!!!!!!
wihint
Do they sell good Mexican food in Rocky Point? Can I use American money anywhere? Do I need to learn Russian to communicate in Rocky Point etc....
marybna
I agree. I have given up on facebook.
rplarry
What I like about this forum is how clean and segregated different topics are. You can find what you want find very easily. Facebook throws everything in, AND The kitchen sink, all in a flowing thread. For example, when we get off topic on a certain thread, people start getting called out for hijacking that thread. People like to stay on topic. With Facebook, it is nothing but hijacked constantly. Someone asks about what the best charter is to rent to go fishing, and on Facebook, all the sudden there’s a political discussion, or people talking about black lives matter, global warming, and everything else under the sun. It’s a joke. I have a Facebook page, but I’ve never put a picture on it, and I’ve never posted a comment. I primarily use it when somebody points me to a reason I should check something out.

I am definitely for keeping this forum as is. What really sucks though, is if people start flooding over to the Facebook Rocky point Talk site, there will be even less activity here. Which would be a real shame
rplarry
Roberto said:
Someone sent me a really hilarious description of a senior trying to understand Facebook. Cannot find it of course but here's a short description, She decided to mirror the Facebook process in her daily life. Greeting strangers in the street and commenting on what she had for breakfast, etc. etc. She routinely asked people to follow her. She said it worked as she had a detective, one police and a mental health worker following her !! Poor description but I hope you get the hilarity.

Tyler, do you have problems or issues with maintaining this site as is???


Tyler, Roberto asked a very good question at the very end of his post. Would you mind responding to his question when you get a moment, por favor ?
Roberto
I think the cause of the differences between the quality of posts here and Facebook has a similar explanation to the reason you have the president that you do. Most people don't want to think, but just react. Many are easily moved by superficiality and enjoy being hysterical. It's frightening to me.

Read Eric Fromm's Escape From Freedom for insight. Yeah I know What me read a book? I'll just check the internet and see what Gundry MD has to say. I gave up television over 20 years ago when I realized it was all about what someone else wants you to do or think. Now the internet has started to fulfill that lack of function. And the best part is it's interactive and I can have my say. I'm finding the internet to be less and less useful. You have to work at it. Watch Gundry MD's garbage or take the time to search NIH for information. Frankly I do not understand how he gets away with the crap he puts on the net and how he does it.

Now the effects of social media in general are fascinating. I always thought you had to be a Twit to use Twitter!!

Yeah blah blah blah I'll go back in my hole or maybe post this all to Facebook , that will generate some meaningful discussion!!!
Last edited: Sep 30, 2018 at 5:13 PM
Roberto
Stuart said:
50 million user accounts hacked on Facebook yesterday. For reals.


Tell this ignorant old guy why anyone would want to hack Facebook sites ? My guess it damages Facebooks exclusive monetizing the information about the members in the posts posts. What harm can come to the member?
jerry
Ran into a guy in Tallin this summer who told me his associated hacker friends got into one of the gene testing sites years ago and have a dark site coming out soon that list people with genetic issues that would make an employer or future mate crazy to hire or marry....thinks they will get rich charging a hundred a search....
tyler
Roberto said:

Tyler, do you have problems or issues with maintaining this site as is???


This website costs me money every month and is dying, forums aren't used much when most people have moved to social media, hence the suggestion.

Our facebook group now has 461 members on it, more than this forum has active users.
Roberto
Are you considering abandoning the website?
tyler
Roberto said:
Are you considering abandoning the website?


It depends if we can move it to facebook, I'm not going to kill the ability to communicate with each other, I'm just trying to find the best way to still have it around and gain new users.
mondone
I hate to see the forum go as there already is a bunch of crap on the FB group page. I'm close to deleting my account.
dons2346
If this goes to fakebook, I'm gone.
tyler
dons2346 said:
If this goes to fakebook, I'm gone.


Bye.
ben21
tyler said:
This website costs me money every month and is dying, forums aren't used much when most people have moved to social media, hence the suggestion.

Our facebook group now has 461 members on it, more than this forum has active users.


Could you put a few banner ads up ? Google Adwords? Not sure if it would offset the costs...
Roberto
tyler said:
It depends if we can move it to facebook, I'm not going to kill the ability to communicate with each other, I'm just trying to find the best way to still have it around and gain new users.


Not sure what you mean here. Seems like it is already moved to Facebook just not taken down as a forum.
Do you intend to take the Forum down?
Do you suggest we start a new Forum so people can move to it if they do not want Faceboook??
Would that in some way cause you a problem??

The forum has obviously been a springboard for the new Facebook and an obvious possible springboard for a new forum for Penasco. The original forum was certainly a springboard for the existing one.

Thanks for your reply.
ernesto
Hey! Let's invite Happy, Sub, Drymeat, etc all the people that at least made it lively. Maybe some of Stu's trolls from the basement!
Roberto
They all kept things lively that's for sure. Did not think anyone else would remember Sub and the Walmart wars. I heard from Haps for awhile but not recently. Hey he could be the moderator !!
brokenwave
I wouldn't want this forum to close, what becomes of all the info people have contributed over the past ? of years? I'm going on 8 years here and have seen so much good info exchanged.
Good luck trying to find that on FB.
GringoZona
tyler said:
This website costs me money every month and is dying, forums aren't used much when most people have moved to social media, hence the suggestion.

Our facebook group now has 461 members on it, more than this forum has active users.

tyler said:
This website costs me money every month and is dying, forums aren't used much when most people have moved to social media, hence the suggestion.

Our facebook group now has 461 members on it, more than this forum has active users.


If you started a Patreon account and asked for a donation of $1 a month I'm sure you would get more that enough to cover your costs as well as compensation for your time. I currently donate $29 a month on Patreon between four different YouTube channels I watch. Totally worth it.
Bob Oso
For the sake of your poll, yes I have a FB account, and no I don't use it. Had my marketing guy make it just for my business when having all the social media platforms tagged to your website was some kind of status thing. I looked at it once years ago. I'm sure it's a valuable tool for those who like it, just not my thing. I'll be around here for as long as this forum is up, but doubt I'd follow on FB.
Kelney
I would hate to see this go FB only. I believe there are already several RP groups already on FB so not sure if another one is really needed. I truly get that this is an expense for you Tyler and you are not seeing much bang for your buck. That being said, there may be some folks who frequent the site that may be happy to take it over financially rather than seeing it die.
Stuart
Kelney said:
be happy to take it over financially rather than seeing it die.



<raises his hand>
Gandydancer
I joined this forum almost 5 years ago. Never have been able to post until today. I have enjoyed reading the posts (good or bad) for many years even before I joined. One of my favorites has to be Green Valley Jack, as I am also from Green Valley. We have visited Rocky Point every year for 14 years now, many times bringing family and friends. Forum staff is to commended for a great job moderating arguments. But that is what I think makes this forum a good read. "When all men think alike few men think at all". I would be happy to subscribe $12 a year if for this forum, if needed to keep it open. You have been well worth it. I am not a fan of facebook.
Roberto
Yeah I miss Ole Cactus on the Forum. Just don't go drinkin with him when he is here. The police here have managed to reduce the size of the force since he quit coming down.
jerry
Keeping it as it stands I vote no.Not interested in subsidizing Stews basement dwelling hate club or making people read my non mexico related opinions any more (sorry all... I just basically used it as a scrap book for stories that interested me .. didn't really give a shit what some southern racist thought about coal etc.)
But a new version with best practices cheat sheets ( with sub cheat sheets when great minds disagree) in each category would be good.
Remember this, the real estate community hates this thing because all bad news hurts sales...and let's face it from the 60s on crooked realtor types have landed here after fleecing Arizona suckers....Butterfied is just the latest. To this day they stand arm and arm and salute the most crooked of their profession for giving away alms to the poor while looking the other way as they continue in some cases to bilk buyers.
Roberto
Sit on a cactus this morning Jerry??
jerry
Roberto said:
Sit on a cactus this morning Jerry??

In Idaho...none around...smarting from being banned for slapping the hillbillies around on rantd and raves...who gets banned from that!
GV Jack
Roberto said:
Yeah I miss Ole Cactus on the Forum. Just don't go drinkin with him when he is here. The police here have managed to reduce the size of the force since he quit coming down.


Yeah and the sheep are running wild now.
AutoPaint
jerry said:
Keeping it as it stands I vote no.Not interested in subsidizing Stews basement dwelling hate club or making people read my non mexico related opinions any more (sorry all... I just basically used it as a scrap book for stories that interested me .. didn't really give a shit what some southern racist thought about coal etc.)
But a new version with best practices cheat sheets ( with sub cheat sheets when great minds disagree) in each category would be good.
Remember this, the real estate community hates this thing because all bad news hurts sales...and let's face it from the 60s on crooked realtor types have landed here after fleecing Arizona suckers....Butterfied is just the latest. To this day they stand arm and arm and salute the most crooked of their profession for giving away alms to the poor while looking the other way as they continue in some cases to bilk buyers.

You're such a hateful old man who is intolerant of anyone who doesn't see the world the same skewed way you do.

You should ask Tyler what the forum donation participation rate is from Stu's friends because they have overwhelmingly stepped up to save this forum.
jerry
AutoPaint said:
You're such a hateful old man who is intolerant of anyone who doesn't see the world the same skewed way you do.

You should ask Tyler what the forum donation participation rate is from Stu's friends because they have overwhelmingly stepped up to save this forum.

You turds have nothing to do with Sonora...why are you here?
Stuart
jerry said:
You turds have nothing to do with Sonora...why are you here?


They're from the government, and they're here to help.

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jerry
Again .why are these guys part of a Sonoran beach information site?
Stuart
jerry said:
Again .why are these guys part of a Sonoran beach information site?


Let it go, Jerry. Seriously. They aren't raining on your parade one iota or any of the other forums. Go yell at a cloud or something. YOU seem to be the only one that has any issue with who's a member here and what they are allowed to discuss.

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AutoPaint
jerry said:
You turds have nothing to do with Sonora...why are you here?

Life has passed you by Jerry.
TheBigWhit
And I thought I was a cranky old man! Cripes, Geritol works Jerry, try it...

And lots of folks have been banned, so what, it builds character.
ben21
jerry said:
Again .why are these guys part of a Sonoran beach information site?

Is that group still hosted here? Fortunately I don't see it when I'm logged in, so that's a good thing. When I looked in there a few years ago it was full of keyboard warrior weirdos. Like 20 guys going on and on about Qanon conspiracy theory type garbage. I'd be willing to bet half of them have never touched a girl. Probably blame "libs" for their dating failures. But hey, if they're going to pay to keep RPT online, then I'm fine with it. I'd rather their subscription money land here than Breitbart.
Kelney
In ID Jerry? Thought you would have picked a more liberal state to spend your out of state dollars on. Unless your hanging in the Kalifornia metropolis of Boise. Jerry, I like your opinions concerning our beloved RP but you come across as a bitter old hateful liberal when it comes to anything domestic.