When Katie Hobbit, the new democrat Gov., has someone explain to her what this project is all about, she will make Az pay 100 % for it as reparations to the Mexicans.
Based on comps from other recently approved projects of similar scale, this plant will cost approximately $1 B to build not including solar plant and pipeline infrastructure to reach Chandler or Tucson. The cost of making desalinated water from a completed plant is about $2,000 an acre-foot or $600,000,000 a year for the 300,000 acre-foot per year proposal on phase 1. In August the feds slashed some of the Colorado River allocations due to the plummeting level of Lake Meade. Arizona was cut 600,000 acre-foot a year. So, phase 1, with pumping and solar might run as high as $2 B for start-up and then $0.6 B a year afterwards to make up half the loss from the August cut. Presumably most of this water is intended for agriculture. Probably worth looking at how this will cost out and affect rates for various classes of users.
I don't believe there are any plans to pipe the new water to Az. The plan is to give the water to Mexico in return for Mexico relinquishing its share of Colorado River water.
I don't believe there are any plans to pipe the new water to Az. The plan is to give the water to Mexico in return for Mexico relinquishing its share of Colorado River water.
That makes total sense. Good on the United States.
I don't believe there are any plans to pipe the new water to Az. The plan is to give the water to Mexico in return for Mexico relinquishing its share of Colorado River water.
what water does Mexico have the wells they have that are running out???
That makes total sense. Good on the United States.
No Joan the Israeli group plan is to pipe it tu the USA. That is the one the water board just set in motion.The older Plan involved a swap with Baja farms….makes more sense but still devastates our shallow coastal region.
Big LA Times story today on groundwater over-pumping in Arizona and massive housing projects planned for west of Phoenix. Water resource limitations are really starting to hit Arizona hard. It’s not just agriculture but also plans to add a couple million new homes and a lot of retail extending out from Buckeye along the 10. Some really good policy people need to look at the cost analysis on desalination.
These uneducated farmers (if they were still alive) could explain the problem with expansion in Phoenix to the policy people.. as history repeats itself.. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hohokam-culture In southern California, Disney just graded part of a 600 acre project that includes a 24 acre lake to be filled and maintained with ground water and from the plans it looks like about a quarter of the project will be landscaped.. Another bunch of water about to be sucked out of system.. its called Cotino "A Story Living Community By Disney" it promises Disney like service.. really lines about 1 mile long.. In the miidle of the desert..
This has been going on for many years in the California Imperial Valley. I have a friend in Brawly CA who is the biggest hay seller in the area. He originally sold wheat straw to the horse racing business, then to the A-Rabs. They found out about the alfalfa farms there and he started selling them alfalfa bales. They need so much that he has contracted every bit of farmland there to grow alfalfa exclusively. You can see his operation on the south side of I-8 in Brawly. Usually ten to twenty containers being loaded with bales that are then trucked to Long Beach and loaded on container ships on to the A-Rabs.
No more garden greens from the area any more as A-Rab cattle needs pays a lot more than the needs of Americans. Just one more reason almost all of our fresh produce is now outsourced to the Turd World.
Big LA Times story today on groundwater over-pumping in Arizona and massive housing projects planned for west of Phoenix. Water resource limitations are really starting to hit Arizona hard. It’s not just agriculture but also plans to add a couple million new homes and a lot of retail extending out from Buckeye along the 10. Some really good policy people need to look at the cost analysis on desalination.
When Katie Hobbit, the new democrat Gov., has someone explain to her what this project is all about, she will make Az pay 100 % for it as reparations to the Mexicans.
lmao. They need to lock both Duechey and Katie up!
Ducey hid the report that concluded that water supplies were insufficient for the massive housing projects proposed for west of Phoenix. Presumably this multibillion dollar desalination scheme was going to be used to ignore the findings. The Israeli company was planting stories that it was approved.
I found this today. I explains a lot including that there are two different proposals being looked at. It seems if anything is going to happen with a desal plant it’s not going to be soon.
In my opinion the United States should be solving the issues within their own borders. They created the monster and they should tame it. My .02 cents worth.
The President of Mexico wants it , The governor of Sonora wants to wet his beak but admits it is the presidents call. In the the end the governor of Arizona and AG Kris Mayes can and will shut this down. Mayes in another live was a hydrologist and knows the science .
When you see that SQ mile of new cleared ground next to the new giant solar array and all the huge new power lines by the Mayan /Airport it looks like the fix is it……except Hobbs won . She and Mayes hate the idea privately.
They could always pump the "toxic" brine into California's Salton Sink.
An ancient natural channel already exists now known as the New River, a shit filled primitive sewer system that drains from and runs north from Mexicali BC into the present day man made disaster called the Salton Sea. That channel used to drain the storm runoff filled lake south into the Sea of Cortez twenty thousand years ago.
I'm sure some modern day indigenous tribal elders still remember those days when drowned Ground Sloths, Sabre Tooth Cats and Imperial Mammoths were being swept downstream to become a protein loaded broth for the larval Giant White Sea Bass and Mullet then of course became the then sustainable fishery to feed the hundreds of thousands Vaquita porpoise herds. Sony Bono would approve, I'm sure!
It's all nothing but another bull shit boondoggle. How about collecting all of the wasted runoff from the annual monsoon season?
I can still remember when almost every house in Newport Beach California had roof gutters that filled drums next to our houses that our moms cherished for hair/body/clothes washing without the even then Gub-mint mandated chlorine and fluoride infusion into the municipal water system in order to make our teeth strong and stink free drinking water.
Anyone wanna invest in the Jewish backed shit-fest? I'll almost guarantee a five hundred percent return for your investment!
They could always pump the "toxic" brine into California's Salton Sink.
An ancient natural channel already exists now known as the New River, a shit filled primitive sewer system that drains from and runs north from Mexicali BC into the present day man made disaster called the Salton Sea. That channel used to drain the storm runoff filled lake south into the Sea of Cortez twenty thousand years ago.
I'm sure some modern day indigenous tribal elders still remember those days when drowned Ground Sloths, Sabre Tooth Cats and Imperial Mammoths were being swept downstream to become a protein loaded broth for the larval Giant White Sea Bass and Mullet then of course became the then sustainable fishery to feed the hundreds of thousands Vaquita porpoise herds. Sony Bono would approve, I'm sure!
It's all nothing but another bull shit boondoggle. How about collecting all of the wasted runoff from the annual monsoon season?
I can still remember when almost every house in Newport Beach California had roof gutters that filled drums next to our houses that our moms cherished for hair/body/clothes washing without the even then Gub-mint mandated chlorine and fluoride infusion into the municipal water system in order to make our teeth strong and stink free drinking water.
Anyone wanna invest in the Jewish backed shit-fest? I'll almost guarantee a five hundred percent return for your investment!
Fluoride as a kid despite the John Birch Society screams gave boomers good choppers…that mercury filling thing was avoided in many cases because we had less cavities
Sure Democratic usurper experts!
the Governor is illegal!
Las Conchas where Mexican hating Republican geezers have made a home. Hey Hobbs is selling Duceys containers cheap.A 40’ er is 2 k….be good for your bunker now that Biden has ruined the economy ……( note this recovery is in fact great…..everyone is having fun and spending money)
Las Conchas where Mexican hating Republican geezers have made a home. Hey Hobbs is selling Duceys containers cheap.A 40’ er is 2 k….be good for your bunker now that Biden has ruined the economy ……( note this recovery is in fact great…..everyone is having fun and spending money)
It seems you swing both ways. That's the flavor of the year!
Who's the moron that let this commie, cartel loving syco back on this forum?
Time to shut it down and start all over again. Who ever is running this shit show, please delete my account.
Who's the moron that let this commie, cartel loving syco back on this forum?
Time to shut it down and start all over again. Who ever is running this shit show, please delete my account.
You can delete your account or log out and never log back in
Who's the moron that let this commie, cartel loving syco back on this forum?
Time to shut it down and start all over again. Who ever is running this shit show, please delete my account.
When ya call someone a name "syco", you should at least know how to spell it "psyco".
Tmecke etc.dish ot out but just cant take it.
Iwas just kidding Joan of Vallarta but it will be a concern for us if a major platform of the Republican Party in 2024 is an invasion or bombing of Mexican Cartels. It’s like you dont understand the cartels relationship with Mexican leadership and the anger many Mexicns feel for American Bigfooting them for the last 150 years.
Jerry, let's not get started with thr political shit and name calling now that Stuart is gone.. there's a post section he created for that.
Hey that guy and Joan especially have been starting it. Mirramar and yet when she or JJ especially pukes out hatred of jews , mexicans and the Ukraine you say nothing…typical Tucson foothills style …pearl clutcher
still this is a thread about Desal and provides valuable information . I was distracted by white power noise….sorry
This dude Olds55 seems to be headed to an infartction!
Try adding something of Value. Your real estate con woman stuff is so obvious no one bothered to call bs on it.So what do you do down there….enlighten us!
Let's be nice guys and keep this forum full of information!
I, for one, have been exceedingly nice. Many times I have longed to enlighten the fabricator(s) of shockingly naïve political rants, but played by the rules, and remained painfully silent.