Teen sailor, 16 year old Abby Sunderland of Thousand Oaks Calif. is feared lost at sea, ~~~
is "alive" and "most likely floating in the middle of the Indian ocean ( everyone hopes )
~~~ epirb is sending signal ~~~ she has been attempting to solo around the world,
full story, ~~~ www.abbysunderland.com
I'm glad to hear she's been located...and is still alive...but she's not out of the woods yet, until one of the vessels gets to her!
At the risk of getting reamed by some on here....as a parent, (also of a girl)....it makes me wonder what goes thru the minds of these parents who allow, and even encourage, their kids to try these kinds of stunts (feats to some...stunts to others)....and for what?....a lousy "record"???...which will soon be broken by someone else!!!!
Truly an amazing brave young girl... I am hoping all turns out well...
I am glad to hear she is safe. HOWEVER... there seems to be a very fine line between "brave" and "stupidity." Just my opinion. She set sail in order to break a record; to be the world's youngest to sail non-stop around the world. That attempt was blown when she had to stop in South Africa for repairs. It was very foolhardy for her to continue on through the southern Indian Ocean during the winter season. Winds were reported at 45 knots and seas at 40-60 ft. Yeah, "Perfect Storm" kind of stuff.
As a parent, I wouldn't condone my child doing this. Maybe encourage them to adjust their sights for some other record that didn't put their life in so much danger? Ehhhh, kids...
On Edit: I see Joe and I were thinking the same thing at right about the same time!
I am glad to hear she is safe. HOWEVER... there seems to be a very fine line between "brave" and "stupidity." Just my opinion. She set sail in order to break a record; to be the world's youngest to sail non-stop around the world. That attempt was blown when she had to stop in South Africa for repairs. It was very foolhardy for her to continue on through the southern Indian Ocean during the winter season. Winds were reported at 45 knots and seas at 40-60 ft. Yeah, "Perfect Storm" kind of stuff.
As a parent, I wouldn't condone my child doing this. Maybe encourage them to adjust their sights for some other record that didn't put their life in so much danger? Ehhhh, kids...
On Edit: I see Joe and I were thinking the same thing at right about the same time!
sort of child abuse.....soccer coach,skate parents little league nutcase parents can't really kill their kids...these people....glory hounds!
sort of child abuse.....soccer coach,skate parents little league nutcase parents can't really kill their kids...these people....glory hounds!
I've seen the youth sports stuff....parents "living" in the activiies of their kids....but this type of activity is what I find ridiculous....to the point of criminal! Her parents should be knowledgeable in sailing and ocean conditions, and still permitted her to continue after she couldn't set the record....and don't geve me the BS about how they could't stop her! Who provided a 40 ft. yacht and the repairs/provisions/equipment for the trip? Anyone who's done any boating knows what that kind of stuff costs!
One of the stories run on her sail included the story of some 7 yr. old who was killed with the child's father trying to set a record flying a plane.
I know we've gone off topic from the original post.....but this thing with children (and yes, she is still a child!!) being permitted/encouraged to do this type of activity just gets my blood boiling!
I am glad to hear she is safe. HOWEVER... there seems to be a very fine line between "brave" and "stupidity." Just my opinion. She set sail in order to break a record; to be the world's youngest to sail non-stop around the world. That attempt was blown when she had to stop in South Africa for repairs. It was very foolhardy for her to continue on through the southern Indian Ocean during the winter season. Winds were reported at 45 knots and seas at 40-60 ft. Yeah, "Perfect Storm" kind of stuff.
As a parent, I wouldn't condone my child doing this. Maybe encourage them to adjust their sights for some other record that didn't put their life in so much danger? Ehhhh, kids...
On Edit: I see Joe and I were thinking the same thing at right about the same time!
I still think she was brave to do this... I know I do a lot of stupid things, but I know I wouldn't try to sail around the world alone... so I do think she is brave and deserves that recognition of standing above those that get a trophy for participating...
"Brave" was Charles Lindbergh flying across the Atlantic Ocean. Or Amelia Earhardt trying the Pacific. Brave was John Glenn strapping his ass to a huge rocket and being the first man to orbit the planet in space. Brave were the 1st responders in NY on 9/11. I could go on.
A rich, spoiled little girl in a sailboat, trying to beat somebody else's record, for the glory of it? That's not brave, that's stupid.
I wouldn't attempt it either. Like you, I have something called a "brain." Hahahahah!
"Brave" was Charles Lindbergh flying across the Atlantic Ocean. Or Amelia Earhardt trying the Pacific. Brave was John Glenn strapping his ass to a huge rocket and being the first man to orbit the planet in space. Brave were the 1st responders in NY on 9/11. I could go on.
A rich, spoiled little girl in a sailboat, trying to beat somebody else's record, for the glory of it? That's not brave, that's stupid.
I wouldn't attempt it either. Like you, I have something called a "brain." Hahahahah!
what about the first guy in a circus to be shot out of a canon??? <--- just joking... That is true though people like John Glenn and the first responders after 9/11 were very brave...
But in the case of Lindberg and Earhardt someone had to finance their attemps... the girl still had to choose to do this as Lindberg and Earhardt chose to do what they did... I didn't see her chained, or forced into that sailboat by her rich parents... I just feel that she wanted to do this, and that shows bravery and the taste for adventure and I choose to admire that, rather than what seems to be the fads that a lot of the kids her age are doing...
I do hope her rich parents also had all the proceedures and cautions in place to respond in this situation, and are picking up all the cost of her rescue...
the question is still out about me and the brain thing...
The whole "Balloon Boy" thing comes to mind for some reason!
Yep, he may of been crazy Stuart, but not actually crazy enough to send his boy on that ride.
As for the girl. It ain't over, till it's over.
Oh!! can I buy the raft for dog boy? I'd be more than glad to. In fact, I'd take time off from work just to watch you throw him off with a head start out on the 51.
what about the first guy in a circus to be shot out of a canon??? <--- just joking... That is true though people like John Glenn and the first responders after 9/11 were very brave...
But in the case of Lindberg and Earhardt someone had to finance their attemps... the girl still had to choose to do this as Lindberg and Earhardt chose to do what they did... I didn't see her chained, or forced into that sailboat by her rich parents... I just feel that she wanted to do this, and that shows bravery and the taste for adventure and I choose to admire that, rather than what seems to be the fads that a lot of the kids her age are doing...
I do hope her rich parents also had all the proceedures and cautions in place to respond in this situation, and are picking up all the cost of her rescue...
the question is still out about me and the brain thing...
While I understand all the different points of views here, ~~~ I have a diff. take on this, ( somewhat as Seadwellers ) 1st this kid grew up sailing, since she was in diapers, & I don't think anyone pushed her into doing this ~~~ least of all her parents, more than likely tried to discourage her, make her see & understand the risks involved, ~~~
Her older bro. a yr. or 2 ago @ 17 did it ( not non stop ) but he did get the solo record, ~~~ I believe that there is such a thing as a ~~~ natural ~~~ & this kid Abby is a natural, ~~~ she is fortunate that
she has a family that can afford such an ~~~ ( I'll call it an adventure ) & equip her with the best equip.
As an example take Nascar, ( I watch every race I can ) nascar nut ? maybe, ~~~
There are a few that started in their teens, #'s 2,18,9,& the latest on the scene #20, & there are others, these guys are naturals, ~~~ do you think for one min. that their parents said no, no, no, 200 mph is too fast, why thats crazy, no you can't do that,
or that the car owners, ~~~ that put up the big $ would give them a car, I don't think so,
then there is, boat drags 260 mph in 1/4 mi, asphalt drags 300mph 1/4 mi, many in teens, & on & on ~~~
she is close to finishing, & I hope that boat is fixed & she goes ahead & finishes the adventure, & gets the encourging she needs to do so,
not for non stop ~~~ but for being the youngest to go around world alone that record is hers,
till another adventureous soul makes the attempt, ~~~ a brave little girl, ~~~ you betcha,
You have to be 18 to run with the big boy's Happy. That's why Kyle, and what's his name in the #20, Joey, couldn't run NASCRAP until they turned 18. Fact is, a lot of them started in quarter Midgets at 5 or 6.
We all have our opinions of what constitutes bravery.....I'll leave it at that!!!
From one of the news reports....."The Australian maritime authority did not say how much the rescue mission would cost but said it would not be seeking compensation for the search"....so there goes the "ass"umption that the parents would be paying.....
As for the "dog"....I have a couple different pull tubes I used with my jetski.....I'd be GLAD to give him a ride behind my supercharged jetski.....should be able to get him up over 60mph....skipping those waves out there....then a nice little "dismount"!!!:thumbsup::rofl:
One little edit to my post I left out, ~~~ I don't think it's a ? of being brave,stupid, or crazy, ~~~ but more like doing something because you want to do it, ~~~
One little edit to my post I left out, ~~~ I don't think it's a ? of being brave,stupid, or crazy, ~~~ but more like doing something because you want to do it, ~~~
makes me wonder what the future holds for this girl??? she sailed alone, but I "sea" plenty of courage and leadership...
Teen sailor, 16 year old Abby Sunderland of Thousand Oaks Calif. is feared lost at sea, ~~~
is "alive" and "most likely floating in the middle of the Indian ocean ( everyone hopes )
~~~ epirb is sending signal ~~~ she has been attempting to solo around the world,
full story, ~~~ www.abbysunderland.com
There is now a pic. of boat floating in ocean, click on web above ~~~ then click on abbys blog, click on pic. for zoom ~~~
Some teenagers are responsible enough to do adult things. Here's my story. My mom and her husband drove our camper to Central America (all the way to the Panama Canal) and back in the spring of 1974, camping and sightseeing. They were gone almost 8 weeks. I was barely 17, a junior in high school. My sister was 15, a freshman. We stayed home alone, running the family business (a 24 unit apartment house) and going to school the whole time. I had my license, the family car, and enough money plus access to the bank account in case of emergency. I have always been able to cook. There was very little phone contact, I think I talked to her 4 times the whole time they were gone. That big earthquake in Guatemala happened while they were there and it took 4 days for her to get a call out of Guatemala and say they were OK. That WAS the longest 4 days of my life, tho. I had visions of having to emancipate myself and having to put college off until my sister graduated so I could run the business..... But I digress. My point is, some kids are responsible enough to be adults when they are young. Just my .02. If she truly wanted to do it AND was capable, who are we to armchair quarterback? I would, however, pay the rescue bill if it were my kid....Even if they didn't ask for it.
Chari....there is a difference between being responsible....and doing something very dangerous (what I would consider foolhardy even for the experienced ADULT sailor) just for the sake of a "record"....and I lay fault on the parents, not the girl..... There is a difference between running a family business and taking care of your siblings then spending months alone (even with electronic contact ) in very dangerous waters trying to break a record.
As always....we all have our opinions...and mine comes from the standpoint of a parent, and what I consider my responsibilites as a parent of a teenager (male or female). My opinion is no different concerning her brother's circumnavigation when he was 17!!!! There is a fine line between encouraging independence in a teenager and permitting them to do something that has a high chance of causing bodily harm to them.
Joe, my youngest son joined the Marines when he was 17 (the delayed entry program - meant he trained til he was 18 and graduated). They wouldn't take him without my permission which I was oh, so hesitant to give. He convinced me that it was his choice, not mine, what he did with his life. All he needed was me saying that was ok. It scared me beyond any fear I had ever had as an adult...not to mention his two tours of Iraq after that but he made the right decision for himself. I think every child is an individual and we can't generalize "especially" since the law says we should when it comes to chronological age. We should take each person as they present themselves, then rely on God to get it right, which He does in spite of our fears. My son succeeded in spite of my fears...and he did it all himself. I am so glad I didn't hinder that for him. I realize that there are many military moms who wish to God their child never made the decision to put themselves in harm's way, but I think they would have lost them somehow anyway if they would have tried to stop them. It's our job to love them unconditionally.
Sheryl.....as parents, we make decisions concerning our kids, and have to live with the results. In the case of your son, it was supporting him in a "career" choice and what he wanted to do with his life.....a big difference between that (he still had to wait till he was 18 to actually "serve"), and the 16 yr. old girl trying to get into the record books (and from looking at her website, make some money off it)..... Society sets certain ages where people are able to do things (like vote, drink, get married, sign a contract, etc.) without parental "involvement"....whether we agree on that specific age for each individual event or not. You permitted him to enter the Marines, probably knowing that he wouldn't be able to go into combat until he was 18, when he would be able to make the decision on his own anyway. Would you have made the same decision if you knew the Marines would allow him into combat at 16, or 17? My kids make decisions that I sometimes disagree with, but I have no way of stopping them since they are both over 18.....all I can do is support them, maybe give them advice they might actually hear and take, and be there if something goes wrong. I still differentiate between that and facilitating a 16 yr. old doing something that has a VERY high risk of bodily harm, and possibly psychological harm.
I'm going to go out on the limb here and say that it would appear from her parents facilitating everything (big bucks for the boat, electronics gear, prep for the voyage, and a repair earlier in the voyage).....that maybe they were living vicariously through their kids (including the 17 yr. old son) and looking to make a buck off it??????? Maybe I'm wrong.....
Like I've said earlier, we all have are own opinions on the matter.....no matter how we handle it, as parents, we will have to live with the results!
Joe and Sheryl,
There is a little more to my story than I posted previously. Sheryl said we can't "generalize" even tho the law says we should. That's exactly what happened to us during our 8 weeks of being alone. A teacher at school got wind of our situation and took it upon herself to call whatever CPS was called in those days to report "abandoned children". We get a knock at the door at 4:30 one afternoon. I opened the door and the lady identified herself and told us she had a report of abandoned children and asked where our parents were. I said my mom was on an extended vacation in Central America and my dad was out of the picture. She said, well, who is taking care of you. I said, "we are". She asked to come in. I let her in and she looked around the apartment. She saw our schoolwork spread out on the table. She then said, what smells good and I said, potroast. She said, do you have a car and I pointed it out, she then asked if I had a license and I said of course. She asked, how much money do you have and I was, by then, getting a little perturbed, I said enough and more, if needed, while waving the checkbook at her. She stood there a minute and then said, Well, I don't see any abandoned children here and left. That's what happens when you generalize. Now, I'll agree that not all 17 and 15 year olds can be left alone for 8 weeks but there are some kids that are responsible....... And, I bet that this would not have happened in today's climate, we would have been hauled off to a shelter and who knows what would have happened to our business and our mom when she got home...... I still feel that if this girl has grown up sailing and knows the ropes and wants to do this for herself and is mature enough to know the risks that she should. But, I have never had a child and I don't know ifI would feel the same way if it were my child. So, Joe, we all have opinions and that's what makes for an interesting world.
Chari....what's the worst that could have happened in your situation?.....you could have poisoned your sister with your cooking:stir:....you could have had wild parties...and maybe burned the apartments down.....:rofl:
Joe, my youngest son joined the Marines when he was 17 (the delayed entry program - meant he trained til he was 18 and graduated). They wouldn't take him without my permission which I was oh, so hesitant to give. He convinced me that it was his choice, not mine, what he did with his life. All he needed was me saying that was ok. It scared me beyond any fear I had ever had as an adult...not to mention his two tours of Iraq after that but he made the right decision for himself. I think every child is an individual and we can't generalize "especially" since the law says we should when it comes to chronological age. We should take each person as they present themselves, then rely on God to get it right, which He does in spite of our fears. My son succeeded in spite of my fears...and he did it all himself. I am so glad I didn't hinder that for him. I realize that there are many military moms who wish to God their child never made the decision to put themselves in harm's way, but I think they would have lost them somehow anyway if they would have tried to stop them. It's our job to love them unconditionally.
Very well put, ~~~ "BUT I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE LOST THEM SOMEHOW ANYWAY" ~~~
I can relate to your post ~~~ about 51yrs. ago I was 17, & full of it, I attended a good high school, ( Cathedral High ) ~~~ & hated every min. of it, never did like school, what I wanted was to join the navy, it was an ~~~ ITCH ~~~ that ~~~ HAD ~~~ to be scratched, but my parents wouldn't sign for me, "what about your diploma" ~~~ I couldn't care less about a diploma, so in the 11th grade I quit, walked out in the middle of a class ~~~ that nite all hell broke loose, I presented them with enlistment papers to sign, still no dice, ~~~ so I disappeared into the streets, inside of 2-wks. problems began, I was about to make a BIG LEFT turn in life, after about a month, they saw the lite & signed, & off I went sailed all over the Orient for 3 1/2 yrs. on one of the navys biggest aircraft carriers @ the time, after my tour I had enough of the navy ~~~ but I had ~~~ SCRATCHED THAT ITCH ~~~ real good, ~~~
got myself into a trade & did real good in life, ~~~ if I wasn't allowed to ~~~ SCRATCH THAT ITCH, ~~~ only big daddy upstairs knows, ~~~
& so it is with this kid Abby, & many other youngsters, ~~~
~~~ Don't hold them back, you may regret it one day,~~~ LET THEM SCRATCH THAT ITCH ~~~
Happy....I agree with your post relative to YOUR situation...but I still see a difference in "scratching that itch"....and what the girl is doing (or was doing).....
Joe, I don't know how to post the whole link...This is just part of the article:
Rescued U.S. Teen Sailor Wants Second Attempt at Solo Record
Published June 12, 2010 | NewsCore
American teenager Abby Sunderland vowed Saturday that she would attempt to sail solo round the world again, after her first try at the record was thwarted when she became stranded for two nights in rough Indian Ocean seas. Sunderland was plucked from her damaged yacht by a French fishing vessel on Saturday, 2000 nautical miles from the western coast of Australia. Her 40-foot sailboat Wild Eyes remains adrift.
Wow, Joe,
I was talking about generalizing, that every child under 18 is not responsible. Heck, I know 25 year olds that still need supervision! I could have wrecked the car, drag racing, and killed us both, too. But my mom knew we were responsible enough not to have wild parties or smoke in bed. Now, if this girl's parents knew she wasn't responsible enough to do this and still allowed her......then that's different. I still don't know what I would do if it were my child as I never had any. I respect your opinion as a parent and I resent you casting aspersions on my cooking!:ham: LOL!
Happy....I agree with your post relative to YOUR situation...but I still see a difference in "scratching that itch"....and what the girl is doing (or was doing).....
Rocky, the example I gave could & does apply to any youngster ~~~ "that is full of it" ~~~ & this girl is full of it, ~~~ if the girl wasn't, isn't allowed to "scratch that itch" ~~~
she may very well have run off & attempted it on her own, & then what ? ~~~ but her parents were wise enough to realize this, & after all who other than them knows their kid better than them ? ~~~ and are backing her all the way in this ~~~ "ITCH" ~~~
And now as posted above she is more determined to try again, ~~~
& I say, ~~~ Rig up and go get that ~~~ "ITCH" ~~~
Now it looks like daddy did push her into this for some reality TV show... what the hell is wrong with some people to risk their childs life for $$$...
I think someone should strap this girls dad to a boat and set him a drift for a couple weeks...
Now it looks like daddy did push her into this for some reality TV show... what the hell is wrong with some people to risk their childs life for $$$...
I think someone should strap this girls dad to a boat and set him a drift for a couple weeks...
My earlier comment about "Balloon Boy" is sounding a whole lot closer to the truth now that this came out, isn't it?
Mark,
Tell us how you really feel! Now, it's different. When I thought it was her wanting to do this it was one thing. Now that her dad wanted money and fame............Grrrrrrrrrrr!!!!! Some people shouldn't be allowed to have children!
Mark,
Have you ever tried to make a teenage girl do something she didn't want to. She's still be sitting on the doc crying. She already wants to make a second attemp. These are the people that will be our future leaders not the one sitting at home on the Xbox. More power to her.
~~~ MY, MY, Now just what do we have here ~~~ looks like round two ~~~ you guys ~~~ JUST DON'T GET IT !!! ~~~
~~~ the only one of you that it ~~~ RITE ON ~~~ is PintoPoint ~~~
~~~ I'm way TOO busy rite now, ~~~ to explain this to you ~~~ AGAIN ~~~
~~~ in the mean time ~~~ may I suggest that you take a look at this in an objective NOT a subjective way, !!! ~~~
Unfortunately Happy....this type of topic can't be looked at "objectively".....how we feel about it is based on our "life's experiences" and our own state in terms of whether we have kids or not.....it's a very "personal" thing!!! No point in arguing it....we either think it's great....or downright stupid, to the point of being criminal (on the part of her parents)>
Did anyone look at the link to "her" website....selling all sorts of clothing, etc.???? To me, it appeared as a money maker from the start....using the record breaking attempt as the basis.....
Mark,
Have you ever tried to make a teenage girl do something she didn't want to. She's still be sitting on the doc crying. She already wants to make a second attemp. These are the people that will be our future leaders not the one sitting at home on the Xbox. More power to her.
If the "reality show" thing is true, how hard would it be to convince a 16 yr. old girl to try something like that....and be the STAR of her own reality show????? PUHLEEEZE!!!
rockptjoe,
"No point in arguing it" Yet you can't stop yourself from it.
I did my "arguing" , as you call it, in earlier posts.....just having a "conversation" with Happy....there is no way to convince someone either way on the matter.....:deadhorse:
Yea, that would be like me encouraging my son to join the Marines so I could strap a camera to his howitzer and sell the video of the carnage for a reality show. Shame on them.:fail:
Ok here we go, ~~~ NOW LISTEN UP, ~~~ Holy Christ, This is so obvious, ~~~ it's called wanting something bad, ~~~ REAL BAD ~~~ & doing whatever you have to to get it, achive it, ~~~ & you all are rite about one thing, ~~~ the ~~~ MONEY ~~~ damn strait it's about the dough, tell me how else in this world do you get what you want bad enough, achive things without it, & the MORE MONEY the better, & if a little or a lot of fame & fortune comes along with it, ~~~ I say, ~~~ go head on, & praise the Lord for the almighty ~~~ $$$ ~~~
~~~ Example ~~~ rite there in Penasco, ~~~ there are always collections, promotions, island boat trips for all the diff. charities, ~~~ ritefully so, very good, I go along with that, 100% ~~~
~~~ Again it's all about ~~~ MONEY ~~~ how else would the poor people of PP get what they need ~~~ "REAL BAD" ~~~ BTW ~~~ for many yrs. we helped 5 - diff. families, & still do help people,
Unfortunately Happy....this type of topic can't be looked at "objectively".....how we feel about it is based on our "life's experiences" and our own state in terms of whether we have kids or not.....it's a very "personal" thing!!! No point in arguing it....we either think it's great....or downright stupid, to the point of being criminal (on the part of her parents)>
Did anyone look at the link to "her" website....selling all sorts of clothing, etc.???? To me, it appeared as a money maker from the start....using the record breaking attempt as the basis.....
~~~ Rocky, Rocky, ~~~ "Did anyone look at the link to "her" website....selling all sorts of clothing, etc.????"
~~~ There isn't a website, ~~~ sporting event, or other promotion, ~~~ that isn't selling "all sorts of clothing" ~~~ hell we were @ the boat drags one time ~~~ and one of the teams was even selling ~~~ PANTIES ~~~ with their boat pic on it, ~~~ & they were selling like hotcakes, :~)
Nascar, Sprint cars, baseball, basketball, ~~~ everyone does it, ~~~
~~~ Now for another example, ~~~ about a yr. ago, my friend ~~~ Stuart, stopped by my fish camp, ~~~ 1st time we met, ~~~ NO a fight didn't break out, ~~~ my wife & I had a good ol visit with him & wife, ~~~ in the middle of our visit Stuart all of a sudden went to his truck, ~~~ I said oh shit, now what, :~( ~~~ he came back with something in his hands, ~~~ it was a bag of the lures that he makes, along with riggings, ~~~ I mean these lures are down town some of the best I've seen,
~~~ NOW, here comes the good part, ~~~
I asked him if I could have one to hang in my trailer, as a decoration to look at, they that nice ~~~
he just looked @ me & smiled, ~~~ it was then that I noticed ~~~ $$$ signs in his eyes, :~) ~~~
could that mean ~~~ "MONEY" ~~~ :~)
BTW, ~~~ Maybe you all can help me, ~~~ I'm trying to get a ~~~ "GREAT HAPPY" ~~~
reality show going, ~~~ caps, t-shirts, ~~~ you know, ~~~ "all sorts of clothing" :~)
I'm going to produce it! It's going to be kind of like a a variety show too. You know, Soupy Sales meets Spike Jone's, with the creature from the black lagoon thrown in just to keep his family HAPPY.
I'm going to produce it! It's going to be kind of like a a variety show too. You know, Soupy Sales meets Spike Jone's, with the creature from the black lagoon thrown in just to keep his family HAPPY.
~~~ I new it, I knew it, I knew it, ~~~ I put that ~~~ HOOK ~~~ in there @ end of 2nd post, & as usual
~~~ you took the BAIT !!!
~~~ GOTCHA, GOTCHA, GOTCHA !!!
~~~ you are ~~~ WAY TOO, TOO, easy, ~~~ I'm going to stop messing around with you,
Ok here we go, ~~~ NOW LISTEN UP, ~~~ Holy Christ, This is so obvious, ~~~ it's called wanting something bad, ~~~ REAL BAD ~~~ & doing whatever you have to to get it, achive it, ~~~ & you all are rite about one thing, ~~~ the ~~~ MONEY ~~~ damn strait it's about the dough, tell me how else in this world do you get what you want bad enough, achive things without it, & the MORE MONEY the better, & if a little or a lot of fame & fortune comes along with it, ~~~ I say, ~~~ go head on, & praise the Lord for the almighty ~~~ $$$ ~~~
~~~ Example ~~~ rite there in Penasco, ~~~ there are always collections, promotions, island boat trips for all the diff. charities, ~~~ ritefully so, very good, I go along with that, 100% ~~~
~~~ Again it's all about ~~~ MONEY ~~~ how else would the poor people of PP get what they need ~~~ "REAL BAD" ~~~ BTW ~~~ for many yrs. we helped 5 - diff. families, & still do help people,
~~~ I rest my case, ~~~
Now listen up Happy!!! I don't care how bad I need the money....I would not risk the neck of my 16 yr. old daughter (or 17 yr. old son, or.....fill in the blanks) to get it. I may risk my neck..... but that's about it! And don't try giving me some BS that they were not risking her neck on the voyage...no matter how good a sailor she was, or how MATURE she was to handle any or all emergencies!!!
Oh friggin' HA HA, Kenny! Arguing with Happy? Ha Ha! But Soupy Sales and Spike Jones? You are seriously dating yourself!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
Oh friggin' HA HA, Kenny! Arguing with Happy? Ha Ha! But Soupy Sales and Spike Jones? You are seriously dating yourself!!!!!!!!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
Like you don't know who they are, along with the rest of the old farts on this forum.
Oh Poncho. Oh Cisco!... Wait for me wild bill!... Who was that masked man?
When I was a kid I was Spike Jone's! I ran around yelling, whistling, and banging on everything.
Joe, get a grip! Do you realize that you are actually arguing with the HAPPY?... Will you be our first guest on the show? We'll need some comedy too!
~~~ "We'll need some comedy too" ~~~
~~~ THATS IT, !!! ~~~ Ol Rocky wants a part in the "GREAT HAPPY" reality show !!!
~~~ We'll post him outside handing out ~~~ "HAPPY" ~~~ caps, t-shirts, ~~~ &
~~~ "all sorts of clothing" ~~~ & when he runs out of ~~~ "all sorts of clothing"
~~~ My pack member "Jeeper" will bring him the box's of cotton candy to hand out, that should keep ol Rocky busy for awhile ~~~ HEY everyone is qualified for something,
~~~ After all we don't want ol Rocky to ~~~ "RISK HIS NECK" ~~~ now do we,
Now listen up Happy!!! I don't care how bad I need the money....I would not risk the neck of my 16 yr. old daughter (or 17 yr. old son, or.....fill in the blanks) to get it. I may risk my neck..... but that's about it! And don't try giving me some BS that they were not risking her neck on the voyage...no matter how good a sailor she was, or how MATURE she was to handle any or all emergencies!!!
~~~ WOW, Rocky, ~~~ 1st time I've seen the "GREAT HAPPY" in BIG RED letters, ~~~
thankyou, thankyou, ~~~ we will use that in the reality show, & give you ALL the credit for that one !!! ~~~ but you are ~~~ WAY OFF, WAY OFF, WRONG, WRONG, on this one, ~~~
not to worry we ~~~ " ALL" ~~~ the people here do understand your frustration, just take another PILL you be just fine, really, & by all means please don't risk your neck please, :rofl::lol: :rofl::lol:
Now listen up Happy!!! I don't care how bad I need the money....I would not risk the neck of my 16 yr. old daughter (or 17 yr. old son, or.....fill in the blanks) to get it. I may risk my neck..... but that's about it! And don't try giving me some BS that they were not risking her neck on the voyage...no matter how good a sailor she was, or how MATURE she was to handle any or all emergencies!!!
I'm with you on this one, Joe. If those were the circumstances and it was for the dough, shame on mom and dad. Just like balloon boy.:stir:
And Kenny, I barely remember Spike Jones and the Cisco Kid. Remember I'm 53; that's a medium fart. You know, my mom had a Spike Jones album. I guess I'll go root thru her albums tonight. I've got a turntable that still works, I think........
Now listen up Happy!!! I don't care how bad I need the money....I would not risk the neck of my 16 yr. old daughter (or 17 yr. old son, or.....fill in the blanks) to get it. I may risk my neck..... but that's about it! And don't try giving me some BS that they were not risking her neck on the voyage...no matter how good a sailor she was, or how MATURE she was to handle any or all emergencies!!!
I have to admit.....I lied! I would riskHappy'sneck!!!! :woo:
Will you please stop yelling Joe. Hearing is not one of his problem, and your not in New York any more! We all have way better hearing on this side, and I think I know why..LOL