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How does everyone TRULY feel about traveling to PP?

Started by mexicomama · Jun 29, 2010 · 38 replies
mexicomama
Hi everyone,

I have been traveling to PP for 6 years with no problems, other than a nice hangover. With everything I have been reading, for the first time I am scared to go. I have NEVER been one to buy into the media or any of that scare tactic garbage. However been reading a lot of posts on here. What scares me the most are these "checkpoints" or random stops? I am thinking about going down with my family (husband and 2 kids) I just want to know how the people who have been regulars going down there really feel about traveling now?

I am so sad that I even feel this way....I TRULY love PP, and have DEFENDED it for years.

Thanks,
Renee
mis2810
I'm leaving on Thursday, and I feel a little more "sensitive" - not even sure if that's the right word. My husband and I talked about it last night and we've decided that it's not going to change how we feel about PP at all. If anything, we actually feel like since we're not afraid that's all the more reason to go and spend money down there locally. People in PP are truly suffering. It's been one bad blow after another for them for the last 2 years.

As for the checkpoints, you have no reason to be afraid of them. I'm assuming of course, you're not going to be carrying guns or drugs in the car with you. Years and years ago, before many travels throughout Mexico, I was intimidated by the military checkpoints also. But, most of the soldiers are just young boys carrying ugly-looking weapons. They have mothers, fathers, and sisters in far off places in Mexico that are very worried about them. I have a new perspective of this because my husband's niece is married to a Federale in Mexico. He's some kind of an officer and makes a more than decent living for Mexico, but it's no day at the beach. He's gone for months at a time and with all the violence in the locations he's being sent to, they are constantly worried for his safety.

Just think, they have added checkpoints to insure safety for travelers - Mexican and Gringos. The last thing they need is more bad publicity. I'm sure you will be treated well and with nothing but respect at the checkpoints, so long as you treat them with respect as well.
Rocky Point Rides
mexicomama, I have been driving to Rocky Point since Sep 09, luckly it seems like people is starting to come back to RP more and more, I have noticed a lot more tourist from other parts of Mexico too.
Last Sunday, June 27th, as I was going back to Tucson there was a police checkpoint at the entrance of Sonoyta, they were stopping mainly mexican vehicles, I made the point to stop and ask, and the policeman said that some military/police checkpoints are and will be up specially as the sun goes down between Rocky Point and Sonoyta, there will be checking, as I mention, mainly mexican vehicles for arms and drugs or any suppicious vehicle even if it has american license plates.
As you see the checkpoints are there for yours and all of us safety, do not worry about them, unfortunatelly false information has made checkpoints even look bad for those that are not used to them.
In the past everytime that I came across a checkpoint, whether military or Police, they were always very respectful and fast, both as a private or business vehicle, sometimes it was a little anerving seing such a young person with a gun that weight more that him but never had a problem.
Ladyjeeper
I'm coming down Sat. morning and will be alone on the road. I truly feel safe as I speak Spanish and have been coming for years and years.
PitiquitoRosy
mexicomama said:
Hi everyone,

I have been traveling to PP for 6 years with no problems, other than a nice hangover. With everything I have been reading, for the first time I am scared to go. I have NEVER been one to buy into the media or any of that scare tactic garbage. However been reading a lot of posts on here. What scares me the most are these "checkpoints" or random stops? I am thinking about going down with my family (husband and 2 kids) I just want to know how the people who have been regulars going down there really feel about traveling now?

I am so sad that I even feel this way....I TRULY love PP, and have DEFENDED it for years.

Thanks,
Renee


Don't be down on yourself for thinking carefully. That's important, especially since you're travelling with children. As the others have already said, don't be afraid of the checkpoints...they should give you more of a sense of security. Those young soldiers at the checkpoints are our strongest line of defense against violence on the highway and I'm happy to see them. Since I was a little girl riding in the back of my family's car, I've had the habit of waving to soldiers through the car window. If they wave back, it's a good sign. Last Saturday I drove to Sonoyta and back just to check out road conditions with all that was happening, and although I wasn't stopped, I waved as I passed them. They waved back.

P.S. This isn't meant to inspire a carful of gringos to start grinning and waving like maniacs out the windows...that might get you pulled over to check for drugs. I mean a little friendly wave, four fingers off the steering wheel.
mexicomama
So....starting to feel a little better! Thanks for the replies, will be curious of the turnout for the upcoming holiday weekend. I'm also thinking good deals are to be found out there along my favorite Sonoran Resorts! Thinking about going in latter July (brutally hot I know!) :)
mexicoruss
It should be a good turnout this weekend. Like Ink says the tourist are still coming despite the negative press. It is nice to see the resort pools full of people! Come on down and enjoy the weather and the weekend.
tequilatodd
PitiquitoRosy said:

P.S. This isn't meant to inspire a carful of gringos to start grinning and waving like maniacs out the windows...that might get you pulled over to check for drugs. I mean a little friendly wave, four fingers off the steering wheel.


Thanks for the chuckle Rosy.......I'm sure that is just what it will take to ease the tension and get our @$$es back to our home away from home.
Senor Pescado
I completely agree with your feelings. I have been coming down for about 10 years and only in the recent past has there been a little apprehension between Sonoyta and PP. HOwever, i also don't have a problem with any checkpoints as they add a level of comfort knowing at least they are watching out. Just keep aware as should already be.
GringoZona
I just got back, went down Saturday afternoon and there was a large checkpoint just prior to the city limits. Military vehicles, machine guns, police, etc. We slowed down and were immediately waved through, although there was an American whose truck was being inspected; he was standing outside his vehicle.

And yes, I waved at the soldier on my left and he smiled and waved back, just wanting to let them know that we appreciate what they're doing and that this gringo at least understands that it's for our safety. On the way into town there was a series of police cars in a convoy, about a dozen leading with their lights flashing, a dozen or so a few miles back with their lights off. It appeared that these officers were just making a loop from Penasco to Sonoyta over and over to just show some presence on the highway.

Otherwise, the trip down and back was uneventful, felt I had the road to myself pretty much the whole way, which is always to be expected the weekend before a holiday.

PS: Took a Penasco newbie down and, even though she was initially a bit alarmed by the machine guns, the phrase she kept repeating on our last day there was "Let's move down here. Can we just stay? Can we never go back?" Hooked another one! ;)
Last edited: Jun 29, 2010 at 4:18 PM
Senor Pescado
I too saw the police convoy in town on Sunday. They were police trucks with the "PEI" emblem i believe - there were about 8 with their lights on turning from Sinaloa street onto Freemont heading East.
Kenny
Ladyjeeper said:
I'm coming down Sat. morning and will be alone on the road. I truly feel safe as I speak Spanish and have been coming for years and years.

I would feel safe riding with Chari anywhere... That right there should tell you why my vote wouldn't, or shouldn't count.:?
tequilatodd
GringoZona said:
the phrase she kept repeating on our last day there was "Let's move down here. Can we just stay? Can we never go back?" Hooked another one! ;)



Exactly how I feel every time I have to leave. One day........I will be saying...."I AM HOME"
janetandclint
It's fascinating to see so many people who live in or go and come to Puerto Penasco and JUST love it.
mexicomama
Yes, it makes sense to have all the security. I guess I just feel a bit intimidated by it. However, I will wave and blow kisses!!!! ;-) Thanks for all the posts, that's why I love this forum, gives GOOD, ACCURATE information!
jerry
My friends just returned with no problem.This was their first trip Clear directions (with pictures) solve most problems and ease anxiety. ATT cell phones are also good backup...they work on the telcel network
Ladyjeeper
And just what does that mean, Kenny? Hmmmnnnnnnnn?
Kenny
Ladyjeeper said:
And just what does that mean, Kenny? Hmmmnnnnnnnn?

It could mean I was behind the door when the brains were passed out, and I'd ride with just about anyone, anywhere, and without a care in the world. Or, it could be just more of my nonsense, with no meaning at all.8-)
Last edited: Jun 29, 2010 at 8:49 PM
Mentiras y Traición
I'm gonna go with the door thing.:woo:
Indecomm
You guys are a trip. With all the crap going on you make me laugh. We all need that right now. thanks Kenny!
beachgirl
Good morning everyone!! We came down yesterday, got here just after 4:00 p.m. Totally uneventful ride down.................one little checkpoint just as you leave Sonoyta. It was local police, not military, and there were five of them. One said "hola, hi" and I said "hola" and flashed him a wide smile. He bent over a little, looked inside the car and waved us right on through. I looked at my husband and said "I'm glad they're here" and I meant it. There were no more checkpoints after that. Got here and, of course, just felt right at home!!!!!! We slept like babies last night and the fish are jumping like crazy on the nice smooth water this morning (I can watch them from my kitchen window, beach front:woo:) and this is something you don't see very often.................there is a large group of local people with trash bags out cleaning the beach!!!!!!! (It really is a shame that people don't clean up after themselves). The park is very quiet, hopefully it will fill up by the weekend............all in all, life is pretty friggin' good right now!!!!!!!!!!!!
mexicoruss
Windows open last night, nice breeze and cool air I love it. In for great weather today in our little town by the edge of the sea of Cortes' Come on down.
mexicomama
Well I am NOW convinced! I just read the press release and feel EVEN better! Looks like we are coming July 18-24! Sonoran Sun here we come! It's been TOO long! My husband will soon be doing the happy, tequila dance!
mis2810
mexicomama said:
Well I am NOW convinced! I just read the press release and feel EVEN better! Looks like we are coming July 18-24! Sonoran Sun here we come! It's been TOO long! My husband will soon be doing the happy, tequila dance!


Yay! Good for you! I'm glad you decided to go! Enjoy!
mis2810
Here's the latest on the body they found the other day. It was a Sonoyta policeman.

http://www.numerounoonline.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2441:es-del-policia-porfirio-espindola-vazquez-cuerpo-localizado-cerca-de-sonoyta&catid=59:titulares&Itemid=153
tequilatodd
mis2810 said:
Here's the latest on the body they found the other day. It was a Sonoyta policeman.


I failed spanish
mis2810
I don't remember exactly where, but the story the other day was that a body was found off the highway to PP from Sonoyta. Some Telmex employees found it. The article says he was identified by his wife - he was a cop in Sonoyta. I just skimmed through the article but I think it said he had gone down to a club called Blue Cebra in the Mirador to have some drinks and he never came home.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks.
rockyptjoe
Blue Zebra?????
mis2810
rockyptjoe said:
Blue Zebra?????


Yeah, I guess so. That's what the article says. I'm not familiar with most of the bars down there. Do you know the place?
rockyptjoe
I know where it's at....just across the street from Pink Cadillac and Sand Bar....and if he drove 60 miles to go there, it wasn't for a "drink"!!!:stir:
Last edited: Jun 30, 2010 at 4:42 PM
tequilatodd
how sad........."can't we (they) just all get along"?
I was talking with a co-worker about all this. She was telling me about Colombia (her husband is from there) and how they went through a similar problem until the people there revolted. Many many deaths later, no more drugs and no more voilence.....at least not to the level it was. She thinks that Mexico is going through this same thing and someday, it will return to normal.......what ever that is.
mis2810
rockyptjoe said:
I know where it's at....just across the street from Pink Cadillac and Sand Bar....and if he drove 60 miles to go there, it wasn't for a "drink"!!!:stir:


Well, I agree with you, I'm just repeating what the article said.
Ladyjeeper
I read the article. He was a Penasco policeman who lived in Penasco as far as I can tell. His wife lives in Sonoyta. He had lived in Sonoyta and was a policeman there up until a year ago. If Rosie or Playa want to correct me, that's fine. It took this burra (me) several years to learn passable Spanish and I still have some trouble with it. :confused::duh::-?:aagh:
mis2810
Ladyjeeper said:
I read the article. He was a Penasco policeman who lived in Penasco as far as I can tell. His wife lives in Sonoyta. He had lived in Sonoyta and was a policeman there up until a year ago. If Rosie or Playa want to correct me, that's fine. It took this burra (me) several years to learn passable Spanish and I still have some trouble with it. :confused::duh::-?:aagh:


LJ - I'm sure you're right, I just skimmed the article.
PitiquitoRosy
Ladyjeeper said:
I read the article. He was a Penasco policeman who lived in Penasco as far as I can tell. His wife lives in Sonoyta. He had lived in Sonoyta and was a policeman there up until a year ago. If Rosie or Playa want to correct me, that's fine. It took this burra (me) several years to learn passable Spanish and I still have some trouble with it. :confused::duh::-?:aagh:


You're absolutely right, Chari. The officer was part of the Puerto Penasco police force. Prior to coming here a year ago, he had worked as a Sonoyta policeman. I have interviewed several people who were in the Blue Zebra that night and saw him. First of all, he was beyond falling down drunk. Reports are that he was passed-out-in-the-chair drunk. He had gone there with a fellow officer who is still with the department.

His companions tried to get him to leave but he wouldn't. Employees walked him outside to get some air. A while later he went back into the bar, asked for a cigarette, and went back outside. He was seen outside, sitting on the curb across the street from the bar and then jumped into a cab telling the driver that he was going to go drink with some people who owe him money. The cab driver was able to tell authorities where he left the guy, but he didn't see where he went after exiting the cab.

In the almost 2 months since his disappearance, there have been several organized searches in hopes of finding him. During one such search, a local policeman accidently hit reverse on his quad and wound up falling into a 30 meter well, seriously injuring himself and resulting in a big rescue effort to haul the officer and his ATV out of the well.
InkaRoads
Last Tuesday took my vehicle to Baja 1000 and left for a 2 mile walk, hit various business, licuados "Paty" for my morning energy juice, then to the bakery next to Ferreteria Penasco, were I had a chocolate cake, it was OK, "El Cubanito" bakery has better chocolate cup cakes, YUMMY!! I mean really good if you like chocolate!!
End up buying the newspaper and sat at camaronero park where I was glad to see a few moms with their kids and lots of other people enjoying such a beautiful morning, so it seems that people in the north side of the border are more fearfull of their lifes than those living in Rocky Point.
OH and the beach was excellent, the temp perfect and the water refreshing, I do not live in Penasco full time but love the town enough that eventually I will end up here by the beach!! does that makes me a cheerleader!! :eek3:
PitiquitoRosy
Wahoo said:
My Q to those then is ? Why then own one?


Because their job requires it, of course.
tequilatodd
InkaRoads said:
but love the town enough that eventually I will end up here by the beach!! does that makes me a cheerleader!! :eek3:


I am with ya on that Inka
I'll park my ass right there next to you. :cheers:
Stuart
Cuerno de Chivo "Goat's Horn" - Mexican slang for an AK-47 because of the shape of the weapon when equipped with a full, curved cartridge.

No legitimate job in Mexico or the US requires you to carry an AK-47, period. You're either a sicario, narco, or gang-banger. Just that simple.