As with most of the "violence" in Mexico.... I doubt these folks were just innocent folks enjoying a night at the boats. I suspect these guys were somehow tied to illegal activity. The cartels are not in the business of targeting innocent civilians. Usually when you hear of someone getting popped its because they were involved in illegal activity, which in itself is inherently dangerous. I would suspect that A, the majority of the folks in that casino were up to no good or B, the owner (s) of the casino were up to no good or D, the US government was involved somehow.
I strongly believe there is more to this highly publicized Mexican violence and the hot topic of illegal immigration in the US. If you really look at the "numbers", at the published murder rate in Mexico vs population its not that bad. Again, tourists HAVE NOT BEEN TARGETED. I bet the murder rates in Guatamala, El Salvador, etc would be higher but because those countries do not share a border with the US, it isn't reported. I have spent extended periods of time in those countries. Some places make Mexico look like a picnic.
From that report, it sounds like it was intended to be arson....with the gunman telling the people to get out.....and took place at a time when the casono wasn't busy...
I don't know about the innocence or non-innocence of those people. I'm sure not everyone involved was involved w/ drugs. The Mexican poet who is waging demonstrations against the violence, his son was not involved- just at the wrong place at the wrong time.
I have a brother in law from Ecuador, and he gave us a hard time for going to Mexico and said he cancelled a trip to Cancun because it's too dangerous. The next time I see him, I'm showing him this website which shows Ecuador is more dangerous than Mexico!
On the subject of reporting drug related violence in Mexico, I've been sending the following to reporters whose articles appear on the internet.
Remember that the money used by the Mexican cartels is provided by lawbreaking US citizens, criminals. What if there were criminals in the US supporting Islamic Terrorists, would you report that as important?
The catch phrase that is puked all over every story " Over 30,000 people killed in Mexican Violence" could just as accurately be written: "US Criminals cause over 30,000 murders in Mexico"
Here are a few more possibilities: " US Citizens Spent Millions Every Year to Support Violence in Mexico." Or: "Mexican Citizens Terrorized with The Support of US Criminals" Or: "Mexican Towns Unsafe for Children Because of US Supported Violence" Or: " US Demand for Drugs Destroying Mexico"
Try writing a few lines yourself, it's kind of fun.
These statements are true, don't you think? At least as true as most of the current incomplete descriptions appearing repetitively in the media. Until you start to include the final link, the ultimate motivator and supporter of this horrible tragedy, the final consumer, your description is incomplete and any solution to the problem based on that faulty understanding is bound to fail. Slanting the story to discuss only the supply side and it’s responsibility creates a distorted understanding and hence a faulty, incomplete solution.
Think about it. Virtually evey dollar used by the Mexican Drug Cartels to purchase weapons comes out of the pocket of a US citizen, and by definition a criminal. The US media seems reluctant to discuss this issue. It's just not sexy to repeatedly point out to your neighbors, the buyers and users, their contribution to this awful tragedy. Better to just relax, light up or snort and blame it on the Mexicans.
Am I advocating the increased criminalization of drug use? NO! Am I advocating legalization? NO! I am advocating for a rational, complete discussion and approach to finding a solution. The supply will come from elsewhere with the demand in existance now. Placing the total responsibility for the drug violence on the Mexican Cartels is absurd, particularly when there is evidence it was created in part by US interests.
Be corageous, be daring, be innovative. Tell the whole story every time.
Hey Blazer did you read the story/ The Casino were being extorted and in an armed robbery they burnt everyone up.These were just everyday people...makes me sick..The worry is what if a gang like this decided to for example drive into a resort,extort one of the condo towers owners and when they don't pay up..... A 9th story condo tower ablaze in a town with a firetruck that reaches to 5 is in a bad place to be.....
Jerry I've said this before. Don't believe everything you read in the media. I don't know how they can conclude what exactly happened literally hours after it occurred. And no, I didn't even bother reading the story. After you read one story about alleged Mexican cartel violence, you've read them all. I can probably cite the article word from word. They all read the same. Just the dates are changed. I swear to God, they (the media) must have a specific template they use to write these stories. They simply fill in the blanks here and there.
See another problem with the media is we never get follow up on any of these stories. In a few months, they will conclude the investigation and find out it didn't have a thing do do with the cartels. The fire was started by faulty wiring or a carelessly disposed cigarette.
Hey Jerry, how about all the US users buy only from cartels that certify they are violence free !! Sort of like support the coffee growers and artesians. Have a nice logo to stamp on the baggies and everything.
So by reading this article we can conclude three things. A, dont ever travel to Mexico. Stay home and spend your money in the United States. B, If your stupid enough and insist on travel to third world Mexico, stay the hell out of casinos so you arent incernerated by the cartels or D, dont drink the water. It will kil you.
Ive been traveling to Mexico for many moons. Never had a problem. Even the few times I went looking for one, I couldnt find it. When they start shooting up the Friendly Dolphin, numerous taco stands, the Thrifty ice cream shop or firebomb the Bella Sirena to the ground then I'll be concerned. Until then, nope.
One, owned by Roger Clifton of FMI is next to the Mother's Park, just off Benito Juarez and the second in the small office warehouse park off Fremont Blvd, near Brians Sports Bar. The Black Dog in under renovation as a casino as is the old Las Fuentes hotel and convention center off Fremont.
Man sitting here recovering from heat stroke(well close0 i could sure use a bud of fine certified "violence free" or maybe "lead free" Gulf Cartel Indica
Roberto said:
Hey Jerry, how about all the US users buy only from cartels that certify they are violence free !! Sort of like support the coffee growers and artesians. Have a nice logo to stamp on the baggies and everything.
the president of the National Action Party (PAN), Gustavo Madero, denied that owns casinos and not know if his relatives have such facilities. "I have no type of casinos and I have no involvement in these business, "said PAN leader at a news conference. A question expresses whether some cousins operate the casino, Madero said "do not know, I've heard say that, I do not know to whom they relate, do not even know the names or the names or who they talk. "But that does not make or exempt them from scratch, but the owners are who they are, are related with whom they are related, they must face the responsibility of ensuring the security (sic)," said . Meanwhile, Attractions and Emotions Vallarta, SA de CV denied that the Casino Royale, where an attack occurred on Thursday that killed at least 52 dead in Monterrey, Nuevo León, operating under its licensee.
the president of the National Action Party (PAN), Gustavo Madero, denied that owns casinos and not know if his relatives have such facilities. "I have no type of casinos and I have no involvement in these business, "said PAN leader at a news conference. A question expresses whether some cousins operate the casino, Madero said "do not know, I've heard say that, I do not know to whom they relate, do not even know the names or the names or who they talk. "But that does not make or exempt them from scratch, but the owners are who they are, are related with whom they are related, they must face the responsibility of ensuring the security (sic)," said . Meanwhile, Attractions and Emotions Vallarta, SA de CV denied that the Casino Royale, where an attack occurred on Thursday that killed at least 52 dead in Monterrey, Nuevo León, operating under its licensee.
Sounds like the discussion of ownership of the day care that burned in Hermosillo. Don't think they did a thing about them.
One, owned by Roger Clifton of FMI is next to the Mother's Park, just off Benito Juarez and the second in the small office warehouse park off Fremont Blvd, near Brians Sports Bar. The Black Dog in under renovation as a casino as is the old Las Fuentes hotel and convention center off Fremont.
Roberto, dont forget the other new one at Lluvia Del Mar hotel, its been open for 3 or 4 months.
Wow, was not aware of that one. I have not been in any of them, except the old Black Dog, Ana played $5,won $7 and quit !
Clifton's casino was shut down about 2-3 months after he opened it. Right now we just have the one where Game Planet used to be and the one in the warehouse. Soon the Black Dog will reopen with poker, lottery, slots, the works...and of course the one behind Hacienda Las Fuentes.
Clifton's casino was shut down about 2-3 months after he opened it. Right now we just have the one where Game Planet used to be and the one in the warehouse. Soon the Black Dog will reopen with poker, lottery, slots, the works...and of course the one behind Hacienda Las Fuentes.
I stopped by Clifton's Casino last week. Don' t know when it reopened.
That is the attitude that is making this f#$%ing economy stay where it is, if people do not stimulate it by going out and just live life like it was before the fu@#ed financial companies turned it upside down!!!
OK those that lost their jobs or got a huge cut well those can not go out and do what they were able to do but the rest that are still doing good as before are the ones that I am talking about, the majority that are scare to go out and spend!!
And maybe, just maybe if we the people put our voice out the violence, which as Roberto said is finance by americans, we can have OUR government actually fight the demand on drugs in the USA and then probably stop the violence in most of the world, not only Mexico, IMHO
ACAPULCO, Mexico — Two decapitated bodies and scalped heads were dumped outside a Sam’s Club store in Acapulco while three headless corpses were found nearby on the resort city’s main tourist strip, authorities in Mexico said Saturday.
The bodies discovered outside the Sam’s Club were cut into more than 20 pieces, Guerrero state’s Public Security Department said in a statement.
The statement said the skin on their faces and scalps had been removed and left in a woman’s purse at the scene.
The three other decapitated bodies were found in a car parked on the boulevard Miguel Aleman 200 meters (656 feet) from the store, police said. One of the victims was a woman. Their heads have not been located.
Nearly two dozen Acapulco gas stations closed temporarily on Friday to protest the escalating violence.
Drug violence has grown in Acapulco since the December 2009 killing of cartel boss Arturo Beltran Leyva, which set off fighting among factions of the Beltran Leyva cartel.
Meanwhile, authorities said they found the bullet-riddled bodies of nine men on a highway in the Pacific Coast state of Nayarit.
The men’s hands were tied and their bodies showed signs of torture, the Nayarit Attorney General’s Office said in a statement Saturday. The men were aged 20 to 35 and the bullet wounds were from rifle fire, the statement said.
Nayarit has become a battleground for drug cartels fighting for control of the area.
The Sinaloa cartel, Mexico’s most powerful, has long been active in Nayarit, which borders its home base in Sinaloa state, but the gang has recently been challenged by the Zetas and by the remnants of the Beltran Leyva cartel.
In May, a gunbattle between rival drug gangs in Nayarit left 29 bodies in fake military uniforms heaped across a roadway and inside bullet-riddled vehicles.
For all you recreational users, remember your purchase helped finance this horrible violence. Think about those heads the next time you snort or toke. If y'all weren't buying the stuff, this would not be happening.
It's just how we are.The granite countertops in the Kitchen are produced by near slaves in China including political prisoners,the weirdly cheap Brazilian wood flooring comes to use with the occasional indigenous Amazon Indians brains splattered on it,the diamond on the wifes finger is in fact most likely a blood diamond,our Arizona suburban shitboxes were build cheap and poorly with illegal alien carpenters that should have stuck with laying tile.....if it's cheap we go for it
Roberto said:
For all you recreational users, remember your purchase helped finance this horrible violence. Think about those heads the next time you snort or toke. If y'all weren't buying the stuff, this would not be happening.
It's just how we are.The granite countertops in the Kitchen are produced by near slaves in China including political prisoners,the weirdly cheap Brazilian wood flooring comes to use with the occasional indigenous Amazon Indians brains splattered on it,the diamond on the wifes finger is in fact most likely a blood diamond,our Arizona suburban shitboxes were build cheap and poorly with illegal alien carpenters that should have stuck with laying tile.....if it's cheap we go for it
Lets keep in mind that if it is not made in USA is most probably done with some degree of illegality therefore it is so cheap and the quality control can really tell you so!!!