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Started by apb739 · Mar 20, 2012 · 39 replies
apb739
Mexico....never mind Obama's kid is enjoying Mexico :woo:Wake up America: Obama Media Scrubs 'Malia Spring Break In Mexico' Story At The Behest Of White House
Kenny
Do you think maybe you have this in the wrong place?
tequilatodd
Next time I am in Rocky Point, I'll be sure to hire 25 body gaurds to take with me.......just in case
Kenny
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Mar 20, 2012 3:08pm


White House: Malia Obama Safe From Earthquake in Mexico

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Malia Obama is safe and out of harm’s way following an earthquake in Mexico today, where the president’s eldest daughter is on vacation.
“In light of today’s earthquake, we can confirm that Malia Obama is safe and was never in danger,” the first lady’s Communications Director Kristina Schake said.
Reports that Malia was traveling in Mexico for spring break with friends first surfaced Monday. As always, the White House requested journalists not report on the whereabouts of the president’s children.
The White House repeated that today, asking that “the media respect the privacy and security of the Obama children and not report on or photograph the girls when they are not with their parents.”
Kenny
General Conditions:.....Mexico
Millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year for study, tourism, and business, including more than 150,000 who cross the border every day. The Mexican government makes a considerable effort to protect U.S. citizens and other visitors to major tourist destinations, and there is no evidence that Transnational Criminal Organizations (TCOs) have targeted U.S. visitors and residents based on their nationality. Resort areas and tourist destinations in Mexico generally do not see the levels of drug-related violence and crime reported in the border region and in areas along major trafficking routes.
rockyptjoe
More on this matter.....the case of the disappearing stories.....is it REALLY safe to go to Mexico for Spring Break??? :rofl:

Malia Obama Oaxaca, Mexico Vacation Story Disappearing from the Web | TheBlaze.com
tequilatodd
Only if you have 25 secret service agents with you.
ADR
White House Acknowledges Scrubbing Malia Stories | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

The White House today offered Politico a statement on why it has pressured news organizations to withdraw their stories about Malia Obama’s vacation to Mexico.

"UPDATE: Santorum today waded into the Malia Mexico issue, saying with Malia’s trip, President Obama is suggesting to Americans it’s safe to travel to Mexico, when it’s not."


Apparently it is safe enough for the president's daughter..

Kenny
Santorum is a moron, and you pom pom wavers should be thrilled that our president let Malia go to Mexico.

"As always, the White House requested journalists not report on the whereabouts of the president’s children.
The White House repeated that today, asking that “the media respect the privacy and security of the Obama children and not report on or photograph the girls when they are not with their parents.”
mexicoruss
Kenny said:
Santorum is a moron, and you pom pom wavers should be thrilled that our president let Malia go to Mexico.

"As always, the White House requested journalists not report on the whereabouts of the president’s children.
The White House repeated that today, asking that “the media respect the privacy and security of the Obama children and not report on or photograph the girls when they are not with their parents.”


thrilled Kenny, just thrilled. not sure what you meant
Kenny
mexicoruss said:
thrilled Kenny, just thrilled. not sure what you meant

Very simply it's good for the tourist industry that Malia was allowed to go to Mexico, even though she might have more security than normal. And Joe, you of all people should understand the concerns that a father has for his daughter, and it's safe to say he doe's have enemies that wouldn't think twice about getting to him through his family.

It's S.O.P. to try and keep his daughter's out of the public spotlight, no matter where they might be outside of their "normal" circle.
Last edited: Mar 20, 2012 at 6:22 PM
moore_rb
Brilliant... the logic is almost laughable:

1) The Secret Service makes anyplace safe enough for a politician's kid.

2) If you are a politician's kid, go ahead and go where you want (on the taxpayer dime)

3) If you are a taxpayer, don't you dare go wherever YOU want, because the world is unsafe, and we wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you. After all, we need your labor and your money right HERE paying those taxes that we use to cover the secret service costs necessary to keep OUR children safe to go anywhere they want...

I could puke.
Kenny
moore_rb said:
Brilliant... the logic is almost laughable:

1) The Secret Service makes anyplace safe enough for a politician's kid.

2) If you are a politician's kid, go ahead and go where you want (on the taxpayer dime)

3) If you are a taxpayer, don't you dare go wherever YOU want, because the world is unsafe, and we wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you. After all, we need your labor and your money right HERE paying those taxes that we use to cover the secret service costs necessary to keep OUR children safe to go anywhere they want...

I could puke.

Moore, It's hard to know what's logical when you'er puking your brains out:lol:... Nothing new here...
Four days before leaving office, President Bush signed a directive authorizing the Secret Service to provide a period of extended protection for his daughters Jenna and Barbara.

Under the law, the adult children of an American President lose their Secret Service protection when their father leaves office.

But following the lead of Bill Clinton, who authorized an extended period of coverage for daughter Chelsea, Mr. Bush made the same provision for his daughters. He signed a presidential directive on January 16, 2009. The Secret Service requested that the length of the additional protection not be disclosed .

A Secret Service spokesman admits getting it wrong last week when he told the Washington Post that Mr. Obama signed an Executive Order authorizing extended protection for the Bush daughters.

And The Bush Daughters, a Secret Service Headache
Ditching security, excessive drinking, a barroom scuffle: Should we be the least bit surprised by this information? After all, the Bush daughters had something of a reputation for these antics before Kessler's book made news. Their now-famous trip to Argentina (what is it with good times and that South American country?) to celebrate their 25th birthday resulted in the kinds of headlines that no Secret Service boss could want, and the U.S. Embassy kindly requested that the young ladies cut their vacation short and return stateside.

Go ahead, dry heaving is cleansing..:rofl:
rockyptjoe
Kenny said:
Very simply it's good for the tourist industry that Malia was allowed to go to Mexico, even though she might have more security than normal. And Joe, you of all people should understand the concerns that a father has for his daughter, and it's safe to say he doe's have enemies that wouldn't think twice about getting to him through his family.

It's S.O.P. to try and keep his daughter's out of the public spotlight, no matter where they might be outside of their "normal" circle.


Kenny...my point was that the State Dept. was issuing warnings about travel to Mexico...while Obama's daughter went to Mexico.....all the Presidents abuse their Secret Service protection (Dem./Repub?)...although, Obama's family "vacations" seem a bit extravagant and frequent, considering the state of the economy...but that's probably Fox News talking (or Rush....)...right??? :stir:....
Kenny
rockyptjoe said:
Kenny...my point was that the State Dept. was issuing warnings about travel to Mexico...while Obama's daughter went to Mexico.....all the Presidents abuse their Secret Service protection (Dem./Repub?)...although, Obama's family "vacations" seem a bit extravagant and frequent, considering the state of the economy...but that's probably Fox News talking (or Rush....)...right??? :stir:....

Are you talking, or thinking about AZ's "state dept"?..AGAIN!!
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
General Conditions:.....Mexico

"Millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year for study, tourism, and business, including more than 150,000 who cross the border every day. The Mexican government makes a considerable effort to protect U.S. citizens and other visitors to major tourist destinations, and there is no evidence that Transnational Criminal Organizations (TCOs) have targeted U.S. visitors and residents based on their nationality. Resort areas and tourist destinations in Mexico generally do not see the levels of drug-related violence and crime reported in the border region and in areas along major". trafficking routes

We're supposed to be the most powerful and affluent country in the world, and our presidents kid can't make a trip to Mexico?
Mexico Joe
apb739 said:



​smh
Mexico Joe
ADR said:
White House Acknowledges Scrubbing Malia Stories | The Blog on Obama: White House Dossier

The White House today offered Politico a statement on why it has pressured news organizations to withdraw their stories about Malia Obama’s vacation to Mexico.

"UPDATE: Santorum today waded into the Malia Mexico issue, saying with Malia’s trip, President Obama is suggesting to Americans it’s safe to travel to Mexico, when it’s not."


Apparently it is safe enough for the president's daughter..




THIS IS KIND OF FUNNY FOR YOU REPUBLICANS THAT LIKE TO GO TO MEXICO (AKA THE REPUBLICAN ROCKY POINT CHEER SQUAD). You LOVE Mexico but HATE Obama, so when he sends his kids to Mexico, who do you side with? LOLOLOL I DONT KNOW WHO SCARED/SCARES ME MORE, SARAH PALIN or RICK SANTORUM... he is officially out of his mind. Keep fear mongering alive RICKY!!!!!
garyd
Was the Secret Service allowed to carry guns? DEA can't
rockyptjoe
Kenny...and Mex Joe....you both miss MY point....gotta take off those "rat fink pinko commie glasses" :rofl:.....I couldn't care less where Obama's kid goes for spring break (although a 13yr. old going wtih 12(??) of her friends to Mexico????...and the articles didn't say that mommy went with her)....just funny that the State Department is issuing it's usual "warning" right before spring break...but the President's daughter is going to this dangerous, cartel infested location! But that's right...she had 25 armed Secret Service with her, and a bunch of Mex. military also protecting her!!! Has nothing to do with any rah-rahing.....
jerry
If you guys actually know any Mexicans just the fact that President Obama entrusted his daughters safety to them at this time with all the crap he would take for doing it was both a honor and debit that will be repaid 100 times full in some other manner.
Disneynut
rockyptjoe said:
Kenny...my point was that the State Dept. was issuing warnings about travel to Mexico...while Obama's daughter went to Mexico.....all the Presidents abuse their Secret Service protection (Dem./Repub?)...although, Obama's family "vacations" seem a bit extravagant and frequent, considering the state of the economy...but that's probably Fox News talking (or Rush....)...right??? :stir:....


It is impossible for a sitting president to "abuse" his Secret Service protection. Protection is not a choice for the president, it is required by law. Do we really want to live in a country where the president’s children are not protected? I can only imagine the breakdown in the decision making process knowing that your child is in danger or could be held by terrorists. Every president, regardless of their political affiliation should be protected. Everyone should realize that the Secret Service is not protecting a person, but the integrity of the office to which they were elected.

The issue here is not the protection afforded the first family, but the double standard by the current administration when it comes to travel in Mexico.
moore_rb
Disneynut said:
It is impossible for a sitting president to "abuse" his Secret Service protection. Protection is not a choice for the president, it is required by law. Do we really want to live in a country where the president’s children are not protected? I can only imagine the breakdown in the decision making process knowing that your child is in danger or could be held by terrorists. Every president, regardless of their political affiliation should be protected. Everyone should realize that the Secret Service is not protecting a person, but the integrity of the office to which they were elected.

The issue here is not the protection afforded the first family, but the double standard by the current administration when it comes to travel in Mexico.


No comment on the first part of your post; but BRAVO for the last sentence.
Shelquilts
The other fact you guys seem to be overlooking is that Malia is on a school sponsored service project. As a 14 year old she's not on a beer-fueled wild spring romp on the beach!
Bravo for her trip to Mexico to do something worth while.
rockyptjoe
Shelquilts said:
The other fact you guys seem to be overlooking is that Malia is on a school sponsored service project. As a 14 year old she's not on a beer-fueled wild spring romp on the beach!
Bravo for her trip to Mexico to do something worth while.


Not that I have any information to the contrary on your post....but you know this how? Much of the info on her "spring break" trip has slowly disappeared off the internet..... And I'm sure that the Obamas have reimbursed the US Treasury for the travel costs for the "school sponsored" trip.....and I'm not talking about her Secret Service protection detail!

As for "abuse" of Secret Service protection....the presidents used to take short vacations to Camp David....where protection was easier to accomplish...Obama and his family have been taking many trips abroard...which increases the level of protection required...and the manpower....and the costs. No one (at least not me) is questioning the need or reason for the Secret Service protection....just to the levels that recent Presidents have "needed" it for their families (Dem and Repub.)...that is the "abuse" I was referring to.
Kenny
What, you only chose to see what you want to, and ignore what I put right in front of your face? Below is from the UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE and what it gives are facts.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATE
General Conditions:..... THIS IS THE LINK Mexico

"Millions of U.S. citizens safely visit Mexico each year for study, tourism, and business, including more than 150,000 who cross the border every day. The Mexican government makes a considerable effort to protect U.S. citizens and other visitors to major tourist destinations, and there is no evidence that Transnational Criminal Organizations (TCOs) have targeted U.S. visitors and residents based on their nationality. Resort areas and tourist destinations in Mexico generally do not see the levels of drug-related violence and crime reported in the border region and in areas along major". trafficking routes.

Joe has a problem with the money spent on the secrete service, but is still not sure about the money we spend on illegal wars. Trust me Joe, I get it.
joester
seems if you want to have decent foreign relationships with these countries, that travelling to see them may be a good way to start that off. I'm not sure that "seeing Russia from our house" is quite the same as meeting officials face to face on their home turf :wink:
(I know that Sarah actually didn't say those words, I'm trying to add a bit of humor here)
Kenny
Joe say's, "As for "abuse" of Secret Service protection....the presidents used to take short vacations to Camp David....where protection was easier to accomplish.
The facts..
















































































Table 1. Presidential Travel Abroad During the First Two Calendar Years in Office

President

Trips


Visits


Number of Days

Eisenhower

3


3


9

Kennedy

6


9


20

Johnson

1


1


1

Nixon

6


24


30

Ford

7


19


38

Carter

5


17


29

Reagan

8


17


31

Bush, G. H. W.

15


34


54

Clinton

8


27


40

Bush, G. W.

11


28


47

Obama

15


34


55


Notes:
  1. Sources: State Department data, media and other reports on Presidential activities.
  2. Visits = number of countries visited (e.g., if the President leaves the country and visits 6 countries before returning to the United States, that is counted as 6 visits).

You have to remember Joe, the world is smaller, and very complicated at this time in our history.
rockyptjoe
Kenny said:
Joe say's, "As for "abuse" of Secret Service protection....the presidents used to take short vacations to Camp David....where protection was easier to accomplish.
The facts..
















































































Table 1. Presidential Travel Abroad During the First Two Calendar Years in Office

President

Trips


Visits


Number of Days

Eisenhower

3


3


9

Kennedy

6


9


20

Johnson

1


1


1

Nixon

6


24


30

Ford

7


19


38

Carter

5


17


29

Reagan

8


17


31

Bush, G. H. W.

15


34


54

Clinton

8


27


40

Bush, G. W.

11


28


47

Obama

15


34


55


Notes:
  1. Sources: State Department data, media and other reports on Presidential activities.
  2. Visits = number of countries visited (e.g., if the President leaves the country and visits 6 countries before returning to the United States, that is counted as 6 visits).

You have to remember Joe, the world is smaller, and very complicated at this time in our history.


Kenny...how about digging up some stats on "family" trips (wives/kids/vacations)....that would be interesting to see.....
Kenny
rockyptjoe said:
Kenny...how about digging up some stats on "family" trips (wives/kids/vacations)....that would be interesting to see.....

And why don't you do what you do best, argue with stop signs.:cluck:
moore_rb
Kenny said:
You have to remember Joe, the world is smaller, and very complicated at this time in our history.


Can you please explain exactly what is more complicated in the world today?

and please keep it simple- remember I only have 12 years of college and 3 degrees, so common sense is not my strongest skill....

My job takes me everywhere- I often travel 100 days out of the year, and I see nothing more "complicated" today than it was in the 1970's.

Nothing.
rockyptjoe
Kenny said:
And why don't you do what you do best, argue with stop signs.:cluck:


Frequently Kenny...I get a more intelligent discussion with a stop sign, than I can with a liberal rat fink pinko commie.....:har: :har::moon:
Kenny
I only have 12 years of college and 3 degrees, so common sense is not my strongest skill....


I work at a college so I can speak from experience that it's very common for the professional student and the facility as well to have the common sense of a domestic Turkey. So keep your chin up, you're not alone.
Can you please explain exactly what is more complicated in the world today?

and please keep it simple

Here ya go, homework... Since 1990, 34 new countries have been created.New Countries - The World's Newest Countries
Last edited: Mar 21, 2012 at 5:15 PM
moore_rb
Kenny said:
I Since 1990, 34 new countries have been created.New Countries - The World's Newest Countries



Ummmm.... Countries that no longer exist: Missing Countries - Countries That No Longer Exist

So, it seems that countries form and collapse like soap bubbles as part of a fairly regular global process. But let's just ignore that for a moment and assume that adding countries actually does add complexity.

Ok, so what detail about that "fact" actually adds all this new complexity, exactly?

Is it the presence of new/more governments (and therefore increased bureaucracy, people herding and politics)...?

or is it the prescence of new/more borders (and therefore increased bureaucracy, people herding and administration)...?

Or, maybe it is the presence of new/more militaries and police forces (and therefore more people herding and widespread crime/murder)...?

Or, perhaps it is the presence of new central banks and new currencies (and therefore increased people herding and financial leverage against the already poor)...?

At this point I'll simply quote the immortal Albert Einstein:

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex"

You remember Einstein, right? The guy that represents the epitome of the complete failure of common sense?

When looking at your list of "new" countries, I also couldn't help but notice that the vast majority were formed following the collapse of "Global Socialism Headquarters, inc." (aka the USSR)... So, how does that little factoid resolve itself using common sense?

And even if the presence of more governments does indeed mean more global complexity, then what is the common sense solution to all this complexity, exactly?

(That's actually a rhetorical question- the answer is right under your nose, if you can claim an open mind, and a little "common sense" )
Last edited: Mar 22, 2012 at 9:29 AM
Kenny
That's simple, go fishing.:mrgreen:
moore_rb
Kenny said:
Simple, go fishing.


Cheers.... :cheers:
Roberto
It's more complicated because we KNOW about it !! If you don't know about it how can you care about it. Tree falling in the woods stuff. Keep it simple, that's why Kenny likes the fish scarin outfit. Simple!
GV Jack
He better hope one of them big ole Groupers doesn't jump up and grab his group.

:crybaby:
Ladyjeeper
I really have to quit reading this forum at work drinking a soda. I nearly bathed my keyboard in it and I laughed so hard my colleagues came in demanding what was so funny. How do I explain this to them? Friggin' hilarious, Jack!
Kenny
GV Jack said:
He better hope one of them big ole Groupers doesn't jump up and grab his group.

:crybaby:

I found out the real dangers were sand crabs and beach boy's.
image
GV Jack
Wow, Beach Boys with Crabs. Bad, Bad combo.