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All ideas welcome...

Started by DeniseAck · Apr 14, 2012 · 50 replies
DeniseAck
Hi all--need some advice...

I've been pouring over real estate listings for a few months now and really like the outlying areas with a little space for elbow room. We definitely are NOT condo people. I toyed with the idea of townhomes, but again, really would like more privacy than that. We live on about a chunk of land now and I don't think I could handle having people see our every move. (Just personal preference, I don't want to irritate anyone.)

Our goal is to either be beachfront or maybe a block or 2 in, but with killer views. I've seen some great deals north up in Lopez Acivez, and hope there might be some in the other direction, maybe the Playa san Jorge area which seems kind of empty now. We already are using solar and wind power, so that aspect doesn't phase us. That actually works in our favor I think, since some buyers might want to steer away from being off the grid.

I was told that maintenance on homes can be really tough because of the sun/salt, but the idea of renting to cover the HOA nut seems counterproductive to reducing stress in our lives.

My husband and I are coming down from 4/29 through 5/6 and hope to get a chance to meet up with some of you for cervezas in the sol.

Thank you!!
Terry C
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jerry
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I have been working on some small house designs (one is being built now) and have a great lot deal or two i know about you would never find on your own.
MIRAMAR
Here is a home for sale on the beach in Playa Miramar $299,000:
Homes for Sale in Playa Miramar, Puerto Penasco, Sonora $299,000
Last edited: Apr 15, 2012 at 5:36 PM
LK&CC
100_0378.jpgLasConchas1.jpgI have 2 homes for sale in Las Conchas. 1 is 2400 ftsq., $195,000, the other is 1400 ftsq., $159,000. Both with ocean view. For more info, photos, details, etc. please email [email protected]
jerry
LK&CC said:
100_0378.jpgLasConchas1.jpgI have 2 homes for sale in Las Conchas. 1 is 2400 ftsq., $195,000, the other is 1400 ftsq., $159,000. Both with ocean view. For more info, photos, details, etc. please email [email protected]


Maybe you could put to rest a rumor I heard, that there are some serious litigation going on on these properties. and no agency in town will list them for sale,...thanks
LK&CC
The properties are totally free and clear, bank trust and certificates of no encumbrances on each, demonstratible to any interested buyer. Thanks for the concern.
crimebuster
I am confused... There are criminal charges filed against you in the criminal court in Rocky Point for trespassing and theft on these two properties. There are two families that have private contracts on all the properties in your bank trust. Your bank trust is encumbered. How are you free to sell these two properties? What's up with this?
crimebuster
Let me give you a heads-up! The post on 4/15/12 by LK&CC at 3:33 pm, "Newbie Gringo" stating 2 homes for sale is not true. Both homes in the post are encumbered by private sale contracts. Criminal charges and civil suits are on file in Puerto Penasco.
Roberto
crimebuster said:
Let me give you a heads-up! The post on 4/15/12 by LK&CC at 3:33 pm, "Newbie Gringo" stating 2 homes for sale is not true. Both homes in the post are encumbered by private sale contracts. Criminal charges and civil suits are on file in Puerto Penasco.


These are pretty serious allegations, especially when you are a newbie to the forum yourself. What confirmable information can you offer? The forum folk don't appreciate people with an ax to grind making a lot of smoke.
crimebuster
Roberto said:
These are pretty serious allegations, especially when you are a newbie to the forum yourself. What confirmable information can you offer? The forum folk don't appreciate people with an ax to grind making a lot of smoke.


Sorry for the delay I have been away from Rocky Point visiting friends in Colorado. Here is the confirmable information you asked for. ...the criminal charges on file are C.P.749/11. In the civil court there was a suit filed on 4-20-12 against LK&CC.

These filings are public record and can be checked out by anyone. Try it yourself :sharks:
crimebuster
LK&CC said:
100_0378.jpgLasConchas1.jpghave 2 homes for sale in Las Conchas. 1 is 2400 ftsq., $195,000, the other is 1400 ftsq., $159,000. Both with ocean view. For more info, photos, details, etc. please email [email protected]


Buyer beware Charles Carlis, alias "CC" and girlfriend "LK" are thieves partnering with Las Conchas Realty owner Glen Martinez selling homes that do not belong to them. Both homes are in litigation in the Mexican Courts by the legal owners of both homes. CC and LK must be desperate for money...the white house these two crooks stole all the owners belongings, along with moving in to their home for the last year. A.M.P.I is fully aware of Glen Martinez being an accessory to this horrific criminal activity.
crimebuster
image Buyers beware currently Las Conchas Realty, "Glen Martinez" and "Charles Carlis" have this home on the market knowing full and well this home is legally owned by another family.
Stuart
Why is Las Conchas such a hotbed for stealing other people's homes? Wow. Or I could just quote Jack Sparrow - "Why is the rum always gone?"
rockyptjoe
What's with the Las Conchas HOA....how are they allowing this to happen?
Terry C
Joe, HOA's don't get involved in any legal issues (as in this case) with homeowners.
crimebuster
rockyptjoe said:
What's with the Las Conchas HOA....how are they allowing this to happen?
image

The day Charles Carlis and his girlfriend Lori decided to take this home in the spring of 2011 they had the blessing of Las Conchas' HOA security guards. The head of security was standing on the property overseeing all the belongings being taken out of the home according to the six witnesses who observed this horrific crime. The six witnesses never suspected a crime was taking place when the head of Las Conchas' security was standing in the front yard of the property.
rockyptjoe
Terry C said:
Joe, HOA's don't get involved in any legal issues (as in this case) with homeowners.

Maybe they normally don't...but it sounds like this one does...maybe Sheryl's story needs retelling????
crimebuster
Because it is Americans against Americans. The Mexican people do not want to get involved. The judicial system does not want to be involved.
crimebuster
Terry C said:
Joe, HOA's don't get involved in any legal issues (as in this case) with homeowners.


You are correct. This family went to the Las Conchas HOA board and shared their fears of Charles doing this to them after finding out he did this to another family in 2009. The HOA said they were sorry but didn't want to get involved. All the while the Las Conchas Board was unaware their own head of Security had co-conspired with Charles Carlis' premeditated plan to hire a lock smith, arrange for a moving truck a little over one year ago, and physically take possession of their home. The head of security had the balls to stand in the front yard and watch the thief and trespassing take place according to a number of eye witnesses.

By the way here is the home.....image section 13, lot 10
rplarry
crimebuster said:
You are correct. This family went to the Las Conchas HOA board and shared their fears of Charles doing this to them after finding out he did this to another family in 2009. The HOA said they were sorry but didn't want to get involved. All the while the Las Conchas Board was unaware their own head of Security had co-conspired with Charles Carlis' premeditated plan to hire a lock smith, arrange for a moving truck a little over one year ago, and physically take possession of their home. The head of security had the balls to stand in the front yard and watch the thief and trespassing take place according to a number of eye witnesses.

By the way here is the home.....image section 13, lot 10


Really hard to believe this could happen, but sounds like it is happening by the evidence brought by crimebuster. Here is the actually listing. Funny that it states, "Priced to sell, won't last long." Yeah, I wonder why:

Rocky Point Real Estate Las Conchas Mexico Beachfront Real Estate Luxury Homes Rocky Point Puerto Penasco Mexico
GV Jack
Just out of curiosity, how does this listing come out of Oceano?
Terry C
Seems to me you would need your bank trust and any other paperwork to list it.
1. to see if the trust fees are current.
2. to see if the city tax is current.
Kenny
I just get the feeling that there's something missing here.Whats the name of the people who allegedly had their house stolen, and was it paid for? If not, who were they in debt to?
GV Jack
This really pains me, but I totally agree with you Kenny.
(Man I've had easier root canals. It hurts more when I agree with Jerry, but you'll have to do.)

There is more here than meets the eye.
Kenny
GV Jack said:
This really pains me, but I totally agree with you Kenny.
(Man I've had easier root canals. It hurts more when I agree with Jerry, but you'll have to do.)

There is more here than meets the eye.

Go bang your head against the wall a few times, and it'll go away.
crimebuster
rplarry said:
Really hard to believe this could happen, but sounds like it is happening by the evidence brought by crimebuster. Here is the actually listing. Funny that it states, "Priced to sell, won't last long." Yeah, I wonder why:

Rocky Point Real Estate Las Conchas Mexico Beachfront Real Estate Luxury Homes Rocky Point Puerto Penasco Mexico


The listing on the home is with Las Conchas Realty, a newly formed company owned by Glen Martinez. Once a home is on the MLS the listing appears via any real estate companies mls site. The family that legally owns this home purchased it from Charles Carlis in July, 2000. The sale was put together by a purchase contract. Mr Carlis wasn't interested in them paying cash for the home, he would only sell it owner financed at 10% interest. The family paid him in cash over a half million dollars for the home. In the spring of 2010 the family discoveried Mr. Carlis never intended to complete the contract with them. FYI he did this to another family who owns Sec. 13, Lot 18 in 2009.

Yep, at $195,000 it sure is a bargain....when you stop to think the legal owner of the property has faithfully lived the purchase contract for over 10 years, knowing now that Mr. Carlis never intended to complete the contract. He has collected in cash over $800,000 from two families, runs them off between 2009 and 10' has both homeowners properties listed with Glen Martinez. All the while Glen Martinez is fully aware of Charles criminal activity. He is also aware both familes have five lawyers representing them with criminal charges of theft and trespassing filed...along with civil suits.

What a scam.....and of course he will only attempt to sell their homes owner financed because he is a thief.
crimebuster
Terry C said:
Seems to me you would need your bank trust and any other paperwork to list it.
1. to see if the trust fees are current.
2. to see if the city tax is current.


He is not giving full disclosure in the listings that both these homes have valid purchase contracts entered in to with Mr. Carlis a number of years ago. Mr. Carlis is just creating along with Mr. Glen Martinez additional victims.
crimebuster
Kenny said:
I just get the feeling that there's something missing here.Whats the name of the people who allegedly had their house stolen, and was it paid for? If not, who were they in debt to?


What's missing here is both these parties cannot complete their purchase contracts because Charles Carlis will not let them. Like any financial scheme he could no longer financed his life style. So, Mr. Carlis needs to create more victims.
GV Jack
You said, " with criminal charges of theft and trespassing filed"

Is it safe to assume that good old Charlie is hiding out in the U.S? If not, why hasn't the law gone after him?
If so, obviously he doesn't want to come to Mexico for fear of being arrested. So here's my question.
What is to keep the plantiffs from getting a locksmith. retaking the property and telling Mr. Martinez to take a hike.
From other discussions on this forum, I seem to get the feeling that in Mexico, possession IS 9/10ths of the law.

I'm not a lawyer, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and if this deal is as fraudulant as you make it,
why would Martinez knowingly take part in it? Wouldn't that make him a party to the conspiracy? Does he have a history of
sordid deal making?

Do the owners have a written contract with Uncle Charlie and if so, do they have proof they have paid what was owed?
Is there any history of late or skipped payments. So many questions, so little time.

Finally, if I may be so bold as to ask, what is your interest in all this? Are you one of the aggrieved parties or just a good
Samaritan.
Last edited: Jul 11, 2012 at 11:25 AM
rockyptjoe
Not being up on various types of real estate transactions....what is a "purchase contract"? And how does it work vis-a-vis Bank Trusts in Mexico?
crimebuster
You said; "So here's my question.
What is to keep the plantiffs from getting a locksmith. retaking the property and telling Mr. Martinez to take a hike.
From other discussions on this forum, I seem to get the feeling that in Mexico, possession IS 9/10ths of the law."

The plantiffs did hire a locksmith last spring after they were given a heads-up by neighbors who observed Charles Carlis and the head of Las Conchas security standing in the front yard observing all the homeowners belongings, vehicle, furniture, clothing being removed from their home.

The plaintiffs along with several of their lawyers went to the home with a locksmith and took their home back. Charles Carlis hired another locksmith and took the home...again....breaking and entering. He then moved in to their home and has been there ever since then.

The plaintiffs and their team of lawyers told Glen Martinez to take a hike last fall when he listed the property he defied the lawyers and the plaintiffs, as he is demonstrating now. Obviously, it's all about money.

You asked why hasn't the law taken action? Good Question !!!The plaintiffs and their lawyers have been working with the courts since the spring of 2010.
Roberto
rockyptjoe said:
Not being up on various types of real estate transactions....what is a "purchase contract"? And how does it work vis-a-vis Bank Trusts in Mexico?


That simply a private agreement between two parties, in this case an agreement to buy/sell a home. It is independent from and unrelated to a Bank Trust. In the case of a private contract the Bank Trust stays in the name of the seller until the contract is satisfied. After the contract is satisfied the Notario will collect information and process the application for a transfer or new Trust.
Stuart
Damn. Quite the scam and a very sordid little tale. I don't personally know any, but I have heard that there are "people that know people" that can take care of a problem like this for you. For a price, of course. If it were me, I think I'd be asking around...
:puff:
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Last edited: Jul 11, 2012 at 5:14 PM
Kenny
I can see that LK&CC are on the forum in the "Who's online" pop up, but I guess their not ready to respond to this thread yet... I'm thinking their taking the fifth.
rockyptjoe
I'm getting Who's online.....Disabled by Administrator???
Kenny
rockyptjoe said:
I'm getting Who's online.....Disabled by Administrator???

Here's what I'm getting Joe.
Who's Online




imageherradura



imagebarbarella
imageLK&CC
imageMOCHI
imageTerry C


imageBeechbum
rockyptjoe
Kenny...I'm still getting

"The administrator has disabled Who's Online"

when I try to check.....
lagrimas85
Is this the property, that had a balloon payment due on it, that the buyer could not make, but found another buyer to take out his position and the seller wouldn't permit it or it happened after the due date of the balloon payment? Jusk asking, I remember hearing a year or 2 ago about something like this in Las Conchas.
Last edited: Jul 12, 2012 at 8:10 AM
Roberto
Are you quoting Mexican law or US law in some state or region?


Wahoo said:
Now the story is starting to shape up. Does sound like a contract that went awry. Either way the owner (seller) can not disqualify the original contract unilaterally, the burden is on him not the Buyer. If a good amount has been placed originally (downpayment) plus accrued P in the P&I; the owner is required to give the seller time to make good on the balloon. Time to allow a Foreclose can not be done in 24 hours, and time allowed is dependant on the amount received by the seller. The source of the funds for the balloon should not matter. Depending on the amount of the original down payment and total received by the seller determines time for redemption.

(For ex; take an extreme: Imagine 90% down and 10 % ballon, do you think one day late can be upheld in any court?)

The Buyer should file a legal claim to encumber the transfer and any Buyer would be a fool to get in between this current deal. Any Notario would never allow a transfer until this encumbrance is cleared. Strangely here in RP many purchases are being done with out Title transfers. Some buyers are happy witht the right of use, and this right of use is just purchased and sold like "options on a purchase". The seller considers it rent until purchase (rent to buy)and the buyer considers it mortgage payments (Seller financed). This until the title is cleared up which may never happen.
crimebuster
lagrimas85 said:
Is this the property, that had a balloon payment due on it, that the buyer could not make, but found another buyer to take out his position and the seller wouldn't permit it or it happened after the due date of the balloon payment? Jusk asking, I remember hearing a year or 2 ago about something like this in Las Conchas.


No, neither one of these properties that Charles Carlis and Glen Martinez are trying to sell with Las Conchas Realty had balloon payments on them. imageimage


:happens:
playaperro
What row is this house in the foto on?
crimebuster
Row two, section 13, lots 10 and 18.
playaperro
Nope Wahoo you can Google all you want this has nothing to do with American Laws. As you can see their are National Attorneys. Would of been nice to buy Title insurance like they did out at PLAYA DORADO..
jerry
playaperro said:
Nope Wahoo you can Google all you want this has nothing to do with American Laws. As you can see their are National Attorneys. Would of been nice to buy Title insurance like they did out at PLAYA DORADO..

i have a friend that bought in out at Dorado that still has issues hanging over them. It is a place to take a hard look at before buying...
crimebuster
Both plaintiffs entered in to a purchase contract with Charles Carlis for each home. Both purchase contracts were put together by Rocky Point Real Estate companies. Mr. Carlis selected who the real estate companies would be to handle the closings. The plaintiffs purchased, per the purchase contract, the home and land (entire) property.

The purchase contracts required substantial down payments. Each purchase contract stipulated 10% interest to be included with the monthly payments. The plaintiff who owns Sec. 13, lot 18 and 16 paid Charles over a five year period $250,000, until he took their properties back.

The plaintiff, who entered in to a purchase contract for Sec. 13, lot 10, twelve years ago, paid Charles over $550,000 up to the spring of 2010. In the spring of 2010 the plaintiffs who purchased Sec. 13, lot 10 contacted Charles and told them they wanted to complete their purchase contract with him. He decided it was not to his advantage to complete the contract.

Fortunately these events along with others, like it in Las Conchas, have broaden the "Circle of Awareness" to people way beyond the little fishing village called "Rocky Point" and the community called "Las Conchas." Organizations in both Mexico and the United States are working together on this "Crime Spree". These properties along with several other properties in Las Conchas are being watched 24/7. So this situation will get eradicated and people can have their dreams back:party:.
MIRAMAR
and loose all concept of reality.
It's called Senorita Margarita Syndrome.
jerry
still, now may really be a good time to buy but who the hell pays 10% interest!
playaperro
Wahoo said:
... Who buys real estate (Allows his funds to transfer for RE; down payment) with out having the title transfered at the moment of this exchange? (I will defer answering that)

I do know that in RP somehow people start to seeing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and loose all concept of reality. So many 'so called Purchases' never really excist but in the mind of the Realtor (commish) and Buyer (owning ocean views and white sands).

In the above situation all you have to do is ask, who has Title? Ownership remains with the Title holder on record. Period. Sounds like buyers where chasing money gone bad with mo money....[/QUOTE

Wrong Again Wahoo this is getting old Man, I thought I had a hard time with Kenny but we settled.....Have you ever heard of a Pri*k by the name of Francisco Hernandez Mandujano....Sounds like the same **** going on here!
Roberto
Wahoo said:
I do not know the whole story and do not want to go through 15,000 pages of post here on that subject.

.


Well it seems to me that you have been offering pretty definate opinion based on your admitted lack of information here. Get the facts before you offer advice. You are only adding to the smoke and not adding anything useful otherwise.