I first went to Rocky Point (Puerto Penasco) in the 60's with my folks and have thoroughly enjoyed it ever since, especially the wonderful people, the History, the snorkeling, golfing, beach-combing and simply lazing on the beach with an ice-cold Corona in hand! :) I've been all over Mexico, from the capital city to the Yucatan to all points on the Mexican Riviera and Baja, but have always been infatuated with Rocky Point ("RP").
My Dad's best, lifelong friends were Hispanic (as were some of my friends and my mentor after Dad passed, I'm very fortunate to say!) and they had been going to "RP" for the deep-sea fishing clear back to the 1950's. Back then that small road south from Lukeville was "high adventure", meaning it was no sure thing that you wouldn't get you vehicle stuck in the sand along the way!
On my very first trip to Mexico as a boy, my Dad gave me two valuable tips which I never forgot and held me in good stead:
1) "Always remember you are visiting down here, you are a guest!"
2) "That these people don't speak Your language doesn't make them ignorant, it means You are ignorant. So learn the lingo, as best you can, and they will respect you for the effort!"
I've never had a problem in "RP" in all those years and have made friends, like our pal "Cowboy" at the fish market, with whom we loved to learn/discuss Mexican politics and also bought tasty fish from for nearly 30 years until his recent retirement.
Over the years I've become a bit of a Mexico history buff. The land is rich in history as contributed to by the indigenous Indians, "the Builders", Aztecs, Mayans, Spanish, French, and Chinese. That and my Grandfather's military involvement when Pancho Villa was raising hell on the border, all contributed to capturing my imagination and a long time love affair and fascination with "RP" and Mexico in general.
The other huge draw for me to "RP" is that it was SUCH a bargain, in terms of drink, food, accommodations and things to do! It wasn't that long ago that one could sip on cold Cerveza from noon to night for about $.40-.60 cents US. Now unfortunately we're looking at about a $1.00 a bottle and that's at the Distributor! Buy one at the bar for $2.00 on average, and up if you're not paying attention.
We used to go to Costa Brava and El Capitan or LaCurva restaurants and enjoy fabulous Mexican food or fresh Fish dinners for $4-5.00 a plate. Now we see average prices of $9-15 a plate and up. Good grief, I don't have to leave the US to spend like that at all!
As for accommodations, we've done it all, and one thing for sure is, there ain't no big bargains down there any more as far as I'm concerned. More tragic is that they don't seem to much give a damn if we come down and stay any longer. I can hardly get a reply to a voice mail or email these days when inquiring about accommodations. Used to be, "yes Senior, we have your information on file and look forward to seeing you again and we would like to offer to you our 39% VIP discount for your continued patronage. Hasta Luego!"
I guess the "gringos" have worn out "our" welcome, that's sad.
Here's what I've seen in terms of price changes over the years (all USD$).
Resorts - $200-500 a night recently (Mayan Palace).
Private Home Rentals - used to be $80-120 now $300-500 a night (nice 3-4 bed beach-front homes in Las Conchas)
Hotels - used to be $40-70 now $100-150 a night (Playa Bonita on Sandy Beach or Plaza Las Glorias and Costa Brava downtown, (CB now defunct)
Condos - used to be $80-120 now $200-400 a night (I rented at Las Palmas 25 times and one trip paid for 5 condos for 5 families all at once, now I can't get a return email.) There are still "bargains" to be had by searching Craigs List for US Owner/Renters, we found a nice deal at Sonora Sea/Spa/Sky.
Motorhomes - used to be $8-10 a night full Hookups now $20-25 a night (Playa Bonita, the Reef on Sandy Beach or San Rafael and Playa del Oro over by Manny's)
Truck&Camper on the beach - used to be $0-2 now $5-10 a night (the Reef)
Equipment Rentals are no longer reliable! There WAS a pride of mechanic/ownership and we used to rent Jet Skis and ATVs all the time. We had 0% failures on Jets, and maybe had a 5-10% breakdown factor on ATVs, some of that is to be expected.
The last few times we rented ATVs 1 in 3 vehicles had mechanical failures EVERY day. To which you might say, "well that's only 33% failure rate", but when one breaks, everyone chips in to get all back to safety - meaning that day's ride is over for all.
On our most recent trip we had another failure (chain break), AND adding insult to injury after "piggy backing" in the ATV-less rider(s), we had to stand around in the hot street for 45 minutes waiting for the ATV-renter to go retrieve his equipment before we could get our Drivers Licenses back. Then instead of coming back with the ATV and saying "sorry for wasting your vacation day", he drove right past us to the garage, later "texting" his partner that the Licenses could be released. It was like we were wasting his time, rather than the other way around, Incredible!
Jet Skis now rule the beach (much like motorcycles did in the 60's and 70's). Rental outfits appear at 9:00 in the morning and are there until dusk. I used to snorkel out to 250 yards off the coast and for 2-4 hours at a time, totally mesmerized by the fascinations of the Sea of Cortez. Lately I've had to go out to snorkel at 8 am (yes a little chilly then!) to enjoy a good swim. Nowadays you must be very careful about swimming further than 50 yards off the coast and be careful to wear bright hats and be ever vigilant for the JetSkis. The Jets have the ocean so churned up that you can't see a damn thing while snorkeling any more, so they've pretty much ruined snorkeling for me at least at "RP".
On our most recent trip we had a first Jetski "failure". There was some cracking in the top forward surface in the Gelcoat of the hull. This was not on the standing area and not on the nose cone, so no implications of jumping too hard or hitting something could be made. We did notice this cracking on one of the Jets prior to the ride but failed to take careful notice of this on the second. Hell it was only a 30 minute ride, how much inspection should you have to do, right!
Well the operators tried to pin the damage on us, told us the Jets were $12,000 each and we were responsible and then called the cops, the whole thing got crazy. Remember, it's "Napoleonic Law" down there, you are "guilty until proven innocent", not the other way around. Long story short, we had to cut our vacation 3 days short and had to slink out of the country (leaving 3 nights Condo rental and some beach possessions behind!).
We feel the Jet handlers were setting us up to cover the costs of long-term vessel fatigue issues or perhaps rough handling on and off the trailers, but who knows?
Too much drama to be sure.
Finally, I am bummed to be reevaluating whether or not I still want to go to "RP". All the reports about Narco Terrorism has it so only 25% of our friends and family will even consider going any more.
The Costs are getting up there to where I could go to San Diego for the same money.
The only big draw for me is the warm water to swim in, but the snorkeling is being trashed by the Jets and Banana boats. (hell the solution is so simple it's ridiculous, but it'll never happen - Simply run the damn Jets and Bananas 300+ yards off the coast and let the swimmers and fishermen have some peace and safety, DUH!)
Again, Too much drama, Too much to think about! I realize "the Gringos" are ruining it for us all by not being respectful of the country, the culture, the people. BUT I'm the type of respectful "gringo" that Mexico should welcome, not drive away and you ARE losing me, bit by bit.
I go to "Rocky Point" to "get away from it all" -- To relax, to cook, to eat, to drink, to read a book on the beach, to have fun, that's what it is SUPPOSED to be all about, to be sure.
The world has become a very expensive place in the last 45 years. We make 5 times as much, but everything costs 5 times more. Somehow we view this as progress??? Our lifestyle used to be slow paced with plenty of time to enjoy life and smell the roses, but not anymore. Who has time for that? Too many things to do and not enough time to do it. We have become a short tempered, rude society with no solution in sight.
RP may have gone in that direction since the 60's, but not like it has in the US. I still find RP to be very laid back with very friendly people. Between the ocean breeze and the locals, it is a breath of fresh air every time I go there. I also go to RP to get away from it all and have no problems finding my peace. Have the prices gone up? Of course, but where haven't they? If the crowds are the problem, try the outlying beaches. We enjoy staying at Playa Encanto. Many times we are the only ones on the beach for as far as you can see. Works for me and I plan to keep on coming back!
24 years ago I moved from where I was born and raised for 33 years, Long Island, NY, to Phoenix. The last several years, I have not made that many trips back, the frequency getting less and less as the years went by. A year ago when I went back to visit, we decided to go to an old favorite of ours, Peters Clam Bar.(Peters Clam Bar - Island Park, NY)
I almost choked when I looked at the menu prices. I had no clue how the prices had escalated from "back in the day". I could not imagine ordering 6 little neck clams at $8.00, when I get a bag full of them for $5 at the malecon. A dozen oysters at $13? I get a dozen at the oyster farm for $5, and believe me they are much better oysters! There really isn't any seafood that tastes better than Sea of Cortez fare. I've been to California and it's no different there. So it's all relative, you can't expect prices to remain the same no matter where in the world you go. And that goes for anything, food, drink, hotel, etc. RP is a bargain in my mind and always will be.
The price increase that bugs me the most about RP is the taxi fare. Why is it always $12 no matter where you go? I find that nobody will even negotiate, even if it's just a half mile down the road. 10 years ago you could get around town for 2 or 3 bucks, and I feel like the locals probably still do. I even speak fluent Spanish and it still seems to get me nowhere.
I love my little seaside town, I love the people, I love the beaches, and after a recent trip to Tucson, I love the prices. These are the good ole days. Stop living in the past.
Things always move, not always in the direction that we want. You either enjoy being in a place or you dont but the truth is no matter where you are - you take yourself with you!
So I will drink my dollar beer, and sit with my girl on the edge of the sea of Cortes' with million dollar views and enjoy my short time on this planet immensely.
I agree with Russ- if you go to the tourist places, you're going to pay "tourist" prices. When you first visited Penasco, there were no tourist places to go to. Now you need to find where the locals eat and buy, and you will enjoy cheaper prices. Also, you will meet some fantastic, beautiful, friendly people!
C'mon Russ, you pretty much live there, you've figured the in's and out's of the place. You're not taking in what the OP is trying to convey. He's not slamming RP, he's giving his point of view for what it's like for people who visit once or maybe twice a year, at most. And I agree with alot of what he has to say.
Rocky point is like a women you loved and cherished for many years, and then one day you wake up and look over to the other side of the bed and wonder what in the hell happened to her.
You women can just change that to the man you loved, you often do.:o...:stir:
C'mon Russ, you pretty much live there, you've figured the in's and out's of the place. You're not taking in what the OP is trying to convey. He's not slamming RP, he's giving his point of view for what it's like for people who visit once or maybe twice a year, at most. And I agree with alot of what he has to say.
Bob,
I do get what he is saying.
In my tour company I often hear people say things about the way things used to be. Like I said in my post, these are the good ole days for someone. We cant go back, we have to move on.
Penasco is going to grow, it will continue to morph into things that wont mesh with the past. In general Mexico is also growing up. The current leadership here is focused on making Penasco a desirable place for everyone to enjoy. Some like the busy bar scenes, some like the sandy quiet coastline far away from anyone else. We have all of that and everything in between.
The idea that the gringos are ruining it for all of us chaps me a bit. I dont kind of live here I am all in. I am part of the community and I love it.
Progress means change and not everyone is down with that. You have to remember though that this is a Mexican town. If progress is good for the Mexican people then I am all for it. Will it make your experience a little different when you come back in 6 months or a year? Probably but the reality is its not all about you and your memories. The people here deserve good things too! I know local folks who were born here and lived here when everyone lived in old port. No water, no electricity......I think they love the changes that are being made to our little town.
So gas up the car, grab your loved ones and head for the beach in our little modernizing town. Grab a cold beer at a bar for 2.50 instead of 5.50 like I paid in Tucson last Saturday. Or grab a 12 for 113 pesos and go to a deserted beach north or south of town.. Like I said we have it all and more. Come enjoy the good old days today!
Sure things have changed just as they have changed in most inplaces. I also have been coming to Rocky Point for many years. The 25 centtacos, $7.00 case of beer and $10.00pp for all day fishing have long gonealong with my $90.00 a week pay check and my $300.00 Ford Falcon. That is aproblem that comes with age we remember what things use to cost and comparedthings today to them. I would have never thought that I would ever see a newtruck cost twice what a house use to cost. There are many things in Rocky Pointthat I believe are of value I just have to compare them to today’s cost/dollars.Again this is just my opinion. As far as renting things most everyone is having hard timesand it is difficult to keep the newest and best maintained stuff. He who canoperate at the lowest operating cost survives. I agree it’s not fair or rightbut is just a fact. Pm me and you can stop-by my place when I'm there, we can set on the patio lookingover the ocean, drink a 75 cent Corona and talk about how cheap thingsuse to be.
Rocky point is like a women you loved and cherished for many years, and then one day you wake up and look over to the other side of the bed and wonder what in the hell happened to her.
You women can just change that to the man you loved, you often do.:o...:stir:
My husband has been going down since the 60's and I have been going down since the 70's. We've spent many weeks in San Diego also. Yes it has changed and yes things cost more. The condo we rent with a first floor, ocean front would cost us 4 times what we pay if it were in San Diego. The local restaurants (not the ones in the resorts) have excellent food and very fair prices. The gas is cheaper and their mexican gulf shrimp, homemade tortillas and bakery items cannot be found in San Diego. In my opinion Rocky Point is 100% more value than San Diego. Read this board, ask questions and you'll find the places we're talking about.
Yeah, the days of a $100 weekend and still having some change in your pocket are long gone, amigo. Hell, I feel lucky if I can have $500 weekend these days.
Doesn't make it bad, just makes it more expensive. I'm still trying to figure out what my beer budget should be for the show this Sat. night!
Yeah, the days of a $100 weekend and still having some change in your pocket are long gone, amigo. Hell, I feel lucky if I can have $500 weekend these days.
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That reminded me that we used to call COSTCO the $100 club, now you spend 3x that !
I've actually given up on Playa Inn. Very much downhill from what it used to be and I'm one that's been staying there since the 1st row of Inn Suites that it was back in the day. Sad, I've been a *loyal* customer all these years and watched it grow and have had some excellent stays there, many times. But, times have changed. Even Reggie's has changed, but it's still my morning coffee and a breakfast burrito. And still the best in RP for that.
I can still guarantee *one* experience in RP - La Curva. Mi familia there treats us just like that. Fresh fish? No problemo, senor. Pedro, the Handsome Marachi, come, join us for some comida. The other marachis look at him like a pariah that he would sit and eat with the gringos. Little do they know the awesomeness of the fresh fish tacos with white seabass, goldspot, or whatever we caught that day, cooked perfectly. Pedro knows. He's familia, too. As is Jorge, the flower boy. Sure, flowers for my espousa. This is pesos all well spent.
These are the things that I love and that bring me back to RP over and over and over... not some fancy condo on Sandy Beach. Not Changos, not Wrecked at the Reef. Just the very real people I've come to know, love, and consider my familia, because that's exactly the way they treat me, whether it's been a few weeks or a year since they've seen me.
Mi amigo Ruben has put in some nice little casitas over at Whale Hill. My new home away from home. Price? Can't beat it with a stick. Mini split ACs, brand new, hot water heaters in each room... just haven't gotten used to the roosters at daybreak! But I'm getting up to go fishing at daybreak anyway. Just nature's alarm clock.
1400 pesos? Beach supplies, maybe. But not ice, launch fees, fish cleaning, gas for the boat, etc., etc. I suppose if I came and wanted to roast my buns on a Mirador beach, or even La Pinta, all day long, I could get by on that. I'm not a beach person. The water... it calls me. I need to be on it, exploring, experiencing, trying to catch the one that got away last time.
If you haven't been to what used to be the Playa Inn lately, you might want to check it out. The people who bought it and then ran it into the ground lost it. It's been re-taken over by the sellers. Now it's the Hotel Grand Hacienda, although some of the signs haven't yet been changed.
For months they've been working to bring it back up to par, and they seem to be doing a decent job. Last weekend we had visiting friends stay there and they were very comfortable. Price was about $50 bucks per night for a double. Javier Ortega is the bartender, for those of you who remember him from JC's or the Sunset Cantina. The food in the restaurant is good and the staff is friendly.
After 45 Years I'm Wondering is there Value is in RP? continued........
Thank you for your heartfelt comments. I love "RP" too, that's why I bothered to write.
I got a lot of commentary about "living in the past" and "relative prices and inflation", sorry if I was not more clear.
Here are my main points in sum:
- Relative prices for housing, food and beverages are now on par with what we can pay in the US, prices USED to be a much better VALUE relative to my costs in Phoenix, AZ.
- Equipment Rental VALUES are deteriorating do to maintenance issues - that's dangerous and frustrating.
- I don't feel as WELCOME as I once did -- and I truly believe I'm one of the "good gringos"!
- Safety on Sandy Beach for people who want to swim, snorkel, fish or float on a lounge has been compromised by the Jetskis and Banana boats (solution above).
They can't really expect us to drive 250 miles to come swim in that roped-in 60 yard square, can they!?
There's no doubt tourism has fallen off in "RP". Ask ANY merchant!
If "RP" wants to reverse that trend, they need to be aware of these problem points and do what they can to address/fix them!
I pray these comments reach those in "RP" who can/will make a difference! That's the whole purpose of this.
I'm 28, newly married and starting out in life...don't have a ton of money but make good money....and I think Rocky Point is a BARGAIN, even at 2012 prices. I go there ever 2 months, and have been going for the last 10 years.
Rocky Point is still waaaaay cheaper than California. And better.
Thank you for your heartfelt comments. I love "RP" too, that's why I bothered to write.
I got a lot of commentary about "living in the past" and "relative prices and inflation", sorry if I was not more clear.
Here are my main points in sum:
- Relative prices for housing, food and beverages are now on par with what we can pay in the US, prices USED to be a much better VALUE relative to my costs in Phoenix, AZ.
- Equipment Rental VALUES are deteriorating do to maintenance issues - that's dangerous and frustrating.
- I don't feel as WELCOME as I once did -- and I truly believe I'm one of the "good gringos"!
- Safety on Sandy Beach for people who want to swim, snorkel, fish or float on a lounge has been compromised by the Jetskis and Banana boats (solution above).
They can't really expect us to drive 250 miles to come swim in that roped-in 60 yard square, can they!?
There's no doubt tourism has fallen off in "RP". Ask ANY merchant!
If "RP" wants to reverse that trend, they need to be aware of these problem points and do what they can to address/fix them!
I pray these comments reach those in "RP" who can/will make a difference! That's the whole purpose of this.
Tw
Phoenix, Arizona
Sorry, but I just can't agree with any of these "points" other than that tourism has fallen off. But that's due to 2 reasons, the economy/housing crisis and the media scare about travel warnings. Period. In 20+ years of coming and now owning in RP, I have never heard one of these complaints from all the people I have talked to visiting the town. Prices on par with Phoenix? You have to be kidding. Don't feel welcome? I have never been more welcomed and friendly with the people of RP like I have the past couple of years. Safety on Sandy Beach? Well what do you expect? You can't have a multitude of "resort" style buildings all in a row and not expect the beach to be different, however, there are many other places in the area to go to that are quieter and safer to enjoy the activities you wish to do. Seek and you shall find. Ask questions, find where the locals go, RP is not as "different" as you are trying to make it.
Here are my main points in sum:
- Relative prices for housing, food and beverages are now on par with what we can pay in the US, prices USED to be a much better VALUE relative to my costs in Phoenix, AZ.
The price increases are commensurate with increases in standards. You say "back in the day" the hotels in town were nicer, and cheaper. That may be true, but back then many of the people that could afford the hotels are now the ones renting condos. Back in the day, most college kids camped on the beaches (something you can't even do anymore unless you leave town altogether)
Food prices are what they are - true, many of the "finer" restaurants in RP have US prices, but there are still plenty of places down there to eat good food on the cheap. The resort areas charge more because you (and others) pay it... stop paying , and perhaps they will re-assess their prices. The only power the consumer has is not to pay the merchants prices. Use this power.
rocky_pointfan said:
- Equipment Rental VALUES are deteriorating do to maintenance issues - that's dangerous and frustrating.
This has nothing to do with Rocky Point- this is the nature of the "toy" rental business in general. Renters destroy rentals- A fact as old as time.
rocky_pointfan said:
- I don't feel as WELCOME as I once did -- and I truly believe I'm one of the "good gringos"!
Maybe you are not welcome - maybe you are a cash cow to them. So, maybe you should seek out places where you DO feel welcome. Expecting everything to "stay the same" in order to placate your personal sense of sentimentality is ridiculous. Back in the day, was not Rocky Point (and Mexico in general) more fun because of the adventure of exploring someplace foreign and new? Wake that spirit back up, and try to look at your next trip down there as your first - you might just discover something you never encountered before, and it might even be cheap.
rocky_pointfan said:
- Safety on Sandy Beach for people who want to swim, snorkel, fish or float on a lounge has been compromised by the Jetskis and Banana boats (solution above).
They can't really expect us to drive 250 miles to come swim in that roped-in 60 yard square, can they!?
So, don't swim on Sandy Beach- rent a place out on Playa Encanto next time, or better yet- go down to Santo Tomas and re-live what Sandy Beach was like 30 years ago...
rocky_pointfan said:
There's no doubt tourism has fallen off in "RP". Ask ANY merchant!
If "RP" wants to reverse that trend, they need to be aware of these problem points and do what they can to address/fix them!
I pray these comments reach those in "RP" who can/will make a difference! That's the whole purpose of this.
Tw
Phoenix, Arizona
If tourism has "fallen off" then why is Rocky Point rapidly evolving into another Cabo/Mazatlan before our eyes?
If I compare RP today to the way it was 20-30 years ago, then yeah, I guess I could share your "sour grapes", but things are what they are....
Scottsdale is a whole lot different than it was in 1980, as well... dontcha think?
- I don't feel as WELCOME as I once did -- QUOTE]
Unquestionably true for more than a few of us long time visitors, and I'm not talking about where I've bought bait for decades, or a favorite restaurant or two. Those kind of things are what some of you use as a reference point, and that's not indicative of how the "new" PP rolls.
I've actually given up on Playa Inn. Very much downhill from what it used to be and I'm one that's been staying there since the 1st row of Inn Suites that it was back in the day. Sad, I've been a *loyal* customer all these years and watched it grow and have had some excellent stays there, many times. But, times have changed. Even Reggie's has changed, but it's still my morning coffee and a breakfast burrito. And still the best in RP for that.
22 rooms, $29.99 for a suite, and a happy hour with free drinks! If you stayed more than a day or two you were friends with everyone there, and man that place was fun. I even liked how they watered the sand every morning, and the smell of wood fires for cooking on a hot summer night was like perfume to me.
I also heard that before California was settled the beaches were beautiful and clean. same with mississippi river before people went west. I'm sure a hotel stay was a nickel or so. its a shame that after a hundred years or so things are not what they used to be.
I also heard that before California was settled the beaches were beautiful and clean. same with mississippi river before people went west. I'm sure a hotel stay was a nickel or so. its a shame that after a hundred years or so things are not what they used to be.
For myself anyway the cost of going to PP was not, and never has been the main attraction. It's always been about the people, both locals and tourist, and the magnificent Sea of Cortez.
I'm also not sure where this guy goes in AZ that $1.00 in Rocky Point for a fresh and hot, carne asada taco...with sides of all kinds of salsa and a bowl of cucumbers....is too expensive for him. LOL
Back in college, I worked in a restaurant. You know those customers that you just knew would be a pain in the a$$....who would complain...were tough to deal with...and nobody really wanted to serve them? We called them the "5%ers", the 5% of the population that no matter what you did, it was never good enough and there was always something wrong. They'd find negatives in everything. OP is a 5%-er. :P
Hell, you can rent a 3 bedroom condo at Bella Sirena or Esmerada (the nicest and most expensive places on Sandy Beach).....sleep a couple in each room....and it's like $30/person a night for an oceanfront luxury resort. A room at a Motel 6 in San Diego is $90/night.
Even a cashier at Wendy's can afford that vacation.
Rocky Point is cheap as hell. Best place ever for the money. I LOVE YOU RP!!!!!!!
heck...the US buck is up...dropped a little in exchange rate! But in the past we made out like crazy! They caught up and pegged their prices on the exchange rate now!
Went to order tile other day, and they a few weeks before, gave me a price!
The other day went back to order them, the mex store clerk/owner said they raised the price cause the buck gets more peso to the US buck!
This hurts more the poorer locals, who suffer with the inflation the US dollar does!
They have to pay the higher prices to. But, since we are use to US prices, and for us, its still a bargain at RP for us!
The only way to slower inflation in RP is for mayor to ban US dollars as other areas of Mex are doing to curb inflation.
Even my contractor started his rates now at 14.3 exchange rate for work!
I don't think it will be lowered even if the exchange rate goes down for us gringo's!
And as eating places raises their prices to the higher exchange rate, I doubt that they will lower when the buck goes down!
Thank you for your heartfelt comments. I love "RP" too, that's why I bothered to write.
I got a lot of commentary about "living in the past" and "relative prices and inflation", sorry if I was not more clear.
Here are my main points in sum:
- Relative prices for housing, food and beverages are now on par with what we can pay in the US, prices USED to be a much better VALUE relative to my costs in Phoenix, AZ.
- Equipment Rental VALUES are deteriorating do to maintenance issues - that's dangerous and frustrating.
- I don't feel as WELCOME as I once did -- and I truly believe I'm one of the "good gringos"!
- Safety on Sandy Beach for people who want to swim, snorkel, fish or float on a lounge has been compromised by the Jetskis and Banana boats (solution above).
They can't really expect us to drive 250 miles to come swim in that roped-in 60 yard square, can they!?
There's no doubt tourism has fallen off in "RP". Ask ANY merchant!
If "RP" wants to reverse that trend, they need to be aware of these problem points and do what they can to address/fix them!
I pray these comments reach those in "RP" who can/will make a difference! That's the whole purpose of this.
Tw
Phoenix, Arizona
Hey RockyPoint Fan, I get your point and understand what you are saying but times do change and like RB Moore stated, you have to roll with the changes or you will not enjoy the 'new' because you are living in the past. There is still plenty of the charm as was with the 'old' RP. At the same time, a lot has changed. It had to as it is only 3.5 hours from the 5-6th largest city in the entire US. And, fortunately or unfortunately, it will continue to do so.
I started coming down in grade school and high school, camping on Sandy Beach for about $2-3 bucks. I loved rolling out of the tent and buying those little bean burritos where you got like 8-10 for $1. Now you get 3 for $1. That is one little example of how EVERYTHING inflates. It just does. (I do agree with you that La Curva has inflated a little more than I would like though, but we still go as the food is great and the staff is like family)
Another item you mentioned was how people are less friendly or accommodating. Well, that is most likely a by-product of the fact the population of RP has probably grown by 10-15 fold since you and your dad were first going down. Just like PHX and it's growth, RP isn't a sleepy little fishing village any longer. Tourism is it's primary industry focus now and the population reflects the transient labor force that has come with not only the tourism industry, but the construction and development industry that has built RP into what it currently is. Most of the newer residents don't have that history or nostalgia that the 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation residents had when you visited. Again, it is what it is. But like someone else mentioned, get out and meet your new circle of friends/locals. There are great people all over RP and I will challenge you that you can once again have that home-town feel if you look for it.
I could comment to many of your "compalints", but to your point about swimming and snorkeling, that is the first I have heard that mentioned. (althought your suggestion of a signicant area of beach that is zoned only for swimming and would not allow jet ski's is a good suggestion). Not that I do not agree that the jet ski and banana activity is way up on Sandy Beach compared to the good old days. However, there are also what, 7-10 HIGH RISE condos since those good old days that bring LOTS of people, and people looking to recreate and spend money. That is why the jet ski's are there. My suggestion would be that if you are going to continue to stay on Sandy Beach, go on an 'off' weekend or mid-week. I have friends down there who own jet ski businesses and I can't tell you how often they complain that they didn't even put there ski's in the water on many, many days due to there being 'no people'. Check out this link sometime, mid-week and you can see for yourself how dead and calm it can be on Sandy Beach Sonoran Sky Live View | Sonoran Resorts The other option for great swimming and snorkeling without any interference is to go out to Las Conchas or Encanto, etc. We get down to RP about 10x each year, staying in Las Conchas and I cannot tell you how many times we look as far as we can see down the beach and do not see another human being anywhere.
The last point of yours I will comment on is in regards to your complaint of how expensive accommodations are compared to the good old days. I would wholeheartedly disagree. You mentioned getting a place for $50-60 per night. Now it's 125-150. But, what do you get?? Luxury, 1-2 bedrooms with a living room and balcony, granite counter tops, jacuzzi bath tubs, washer & dryer, AIR CONDITIONING that doesn't keep you all night or hang out of a window, swim up bars, satellite TV, wireless internet. I could go on & on, but it really is a good deal for all you are getting. We go to San Diego or Newport for a week or two each summer. There, we get a 2-3 bedroom beachfront place, not near a nice amenity wise as Sandy Beach, and we cram 2 families in there for between $700-800 a night. Then there is the boardwalk riff-raff and not near as nice of a beach as what Sandy is.
My suggestion for you? Go down more often. It sounds like you have had 1 or 2 negative experience lately, which can happen. But, the more you go down and acclimate to the "NEW RP", the more you become comfortable with how nice some of the new changes really are and the less chance you will have of having a negative experience. BECAUSE, I do not know to many people who go down on a regular basis and have any negative experiences whatsoever.
Hope that helps change your paradigm a little and get you back to enjoying this great little gem that is Penasco!
Thank you for your heartfelt comments. I love "RP" too, that's why I bothered to write.
I got a lot of commentary about "living in the past" and "relative prices and inflation", sorry if I was not more clear.
Here are my main points in sum:
- Relative prices for housing, food and beverages are now on par with what we can pay in the US, prices USED to be a much better VALUE relative to my costs in Phoenix, AZ.
- Equipment Rental VALUES are deteriorating do to maintenance issues - that's dangerous and frustrating.
- I don't feel as WELCOME as I once did -- and I truly believe I'm one of the "good gringos"!
- Safety on Sandy Beach for people who want to swim, snorkel, fish or float on a lounge has been compromised by the Jetskis and Banana boats (solution above).
They can't really expect us to drive 250 miles to come swim in that roped-in 60 yard square, can they!?
There's no doubt tourism has fallen off in "RP". Ask ANY merchant!
If "RP" wants to reverse that trend, they need to be aware of these problem points and do what they can to address/fix them!
I pray these comments reach those in "RP" who can/will make a difference! That's the whole purpose of this.
Tw
Phoenix, Arizona
RPfan one thing that you might be missing is that the same thing is happening all over the world not only in USA and Mexico!! the economy have made many turistic places stan still or even closed, as we have seen happen in RP.
Hopefully it seems that things are turning around for everybody and little by little things will settle again, however when it comes to price increase, well it is happening all over the world too and thru the years, with it almost 100% increase in many things, RP is still a bargain today as it was for us 20+ years ago, we are just used to the idea that it was lots cheaper back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, etc and now it is still cheaper, are you still making $3.75 minimum wage in AZ? I think the frase "Life goes on!!" fit here very well we just need to get used to that it is 2012 and not 1969!!
This what we used to have for smoked fish in RP. Smoked Mullet 10 times tastier than Marlin and there are millions of them around here. Fricken delicious, probably just not fancy enough. Here they are called Lisa. Who the hell, want's to admit they ate mullet. Marlin, fresh is probably the worst tasting fish in the world, you notice you never see anybody selling fresh marlin or having it on any menus as a filete,but smoked its pretty good, just not as good as mullet.
I understand what the OP is saying. The rest of Mexico is far cheaper than Rocky Point. In the end, everything in life changes. I understand that change is not always to our liking, but it does happen. I do miss a lot of things about the old Rocky Point, but I am also pleased about some of the new additions.
Today we are getting a wider selection of accomadations than from 20-30 years ago. As previously stated earlier, you can choose from,
the resort lifestyle to camping on the beach and everything in between.
But to have better choices does cost more, sometimes getting close to San Diego prices, but not nearly as crowded.
I remember staying at the Cholla Motel at Tucson beach and was very appreciatative of the bad beds, slow water and thin walls.
I had a place to stay (shade), a shower, bathroom and a great view for all of $30 per night. And a case of cold Pacificos for $12.
Sure I don't like the $2.75-3.00 beers or the $3.75 tacos but they can be found for less if you look around, you can eat out for less if you look around,.
In Rocky Point you can get away with driving with a few beers in you and if caught it might cost a few $, not that I advocate that.
Bottom line is stop worrying about the changes and enjoy it while it is the way it is, because in 20 years people will be wishing it was like it was today.
I don't think Cancun or Cabo are cheaper, definitely not Mexico City, and probably not Puerto Vallarta.
Mexico City is quite a bit less expensive than RP. Of course there are high-end hotels everywhere, but for your average meal, street tacos, a beer, etc. Mexico City is dirt cheap.
If you haven't been to what used to be the Playa Inn lately, you might want to check it out. The people who bought it and then ran it into the ground lost it. It's been re-taken over by the sellers. Now it's the Hotel Grand Hacienda, although some of the signs haven't yet been changed.
For months they've been working to bring it back up to par, and they seem to be doing a decent job. Last weekend we had visiting friends stay there and they were very comfortable. Price was about $50 bucks per night for a double. Javier Ortega is the bartender, for those of you who remember him from JC's or the Sunset Cantina. The food in the restaurant is good and the staff is friendly.
Thanks, Rosie. I did see the new paint and new name, but after my last stay there (in Jan., I think), I said that's that. No lights on anywhere. Pool empty. Restaurant closed. I could go on, but the place definitely looked like it was in death throes. No hot water. And if it's ONE thing I need after a day out playing with bait and my fishy friends, it's a hot soapy shower at the end of the day!! I also wasn't pleased that, despite asking for my usual suite (was lied to and told they were ALL reserved for a group coming in that mysteriously never showed up all weekend) that we got stuck in a couple of really beat up rooms on the far end. Hey, no biggie there, but I hate being deliberately lied to.
Alma and some of the others that previously ran the place were good folks, always responsive, and the rooms were always clean and comfortable. I do hope the folks that are now running it manage to restore it to *at least* that level!
The price increase that bugs me the most about RP is the taxi fare. Why is it always $12 no matter where you go? I find that nobody will even negotiate, even if it's just a half mile down the road. 10 years ago you could get around town for 2 or 3 bucks, and I feel like the locals probably still do. I even speak fluent Spanish and it still seems to get me nowhere.
Not sure why you are getting screwed over on the cabs. Basically, if you take a cab IN TOWN, just going from point A to B that doesn't involve getting over to the Sandy Beach properties, the fare is 20 pesos PER PERSON per trip. Or, $2 usually covers it. Ask the cabbie before you get in, however. Now, if it is you and your 5 friends, yes, you're going to pay $12. That's just the way it works in Penasco, it's rare to get them to do it less than that. Can anyone else who lives down there back me up on this practice?
ALSO, make sure it's a legit cab, like the smaller, newer compact ones the city sponsors. If it's some old beater, yeah, you're going to want to make sure you nailed down a price before you get in.
Not sure why you are getting screwed over on the cabs. Basically, if you take a cab IN TOWN, just going from point A to B that doesn't involve getting over to the Sandy Beach properties, the fare is 20 pesos PER PERSON per trip. Or, $2 usually covers it. Ask the cabbie before you get in, however. Now, if it is you and your 5 friends, yes, you're going to pay $12. That's just the way it works in Penasco, it's rare to get them to do it less than that. Can anyone else who lives down there back me up on this practice?
ALSO, make sure it's a legit cab, like the smaller, newer compact ones the city sponsors. If it's some old beater, yeah, you're going to want to make sure you nailed down a price before you get in.
The most recent example was taking a cab with my girlfriend from Las Palomas to Bella Sirena to visit friends. This is obviously not really far but it was late at night and we didn't want to walk. Cab driver would not budge on $12. A few times I have gone around with a group of people and they have charged the 12-15 bucks and that makes more sense if they are charging per person. Has it always been per person though? I swear we used to get around with a group of people on spring break for 2 or 3 bucks. This is still possible in other cities as well such as San Luis.
The most recent example was taking a cab with my girlfriend from Las Palomas to Bella Sirena to visit friends. This is obviously not really far but it was late at night and we didn't want to walk. Cab driver would not budge on $12. A few times I have gone around with a group of people and they have charged the 12-15 bucks and that makes more sense if they are charging per person. Has it always been per person though? I swear we used to get around with a group of people on spring break for 2 or 3 bucks. This is still possible in other cities as well such as San Luis.
Yeah, they started that a few years back to keep all the cabbies honest, to even the playing field. The reason he charged so much is because: 1) Somehow he had to get out there, so it's sort of built into the price, regardless of whether the front desk called him from in town specifically for you, or he drove out there to wait for a fare. 2) You're staying at the most expensive resorts in town--of course they're going to try to charge you more than when you were in college for spring break back in the day! ;)
But you're right, years ago you could just say $5 total for a group of people if you weren't going far. I found out the hard way about the per-person charge when my brother and I decided to stay out later than my dad and uncle when we were staying in Las Conchas. Guy says $15, I figure, OK, fine, what a rip-off. Nope. $15 EACH. He was going to come back to the house with the police if I didn't pay, as we led him to the house before we got our final total. Lesson learned!
OK, my turn. During my 46 years coming to Rocky Point, I have seen so many changes....And I hate some of them. But, where can you pay 300 dollars a month for rent and get electricity, water, wireless internet and 24/7 security? 2 dollar cab rides from PDO to BooBar... 14 dollars for a case of 24 16 ounce bottled cokes. 7 dollars for a Sonoran potato that is big enough for 4 people. Gas is around 2.75 a gallon. Tacos are a dollar. A Big bottle of Rum is 10 dollars. It's not cold and expensive like San Diego. I think I have my answer..........The beach is calling....
I took a picture a while back of a cartoon map we have of Arizona and "Punto Penasco" that we guess is from the 30's or 40's. If you want to look at change, look at this. There is no I-10, I-40, I-8 or I-19. No ASU or NAU (just ASTC- but there is U of A!). No Lake Powell, just Lake Mead and Boulder Dam not Hoover Dam (so it must between 1933 and 1947). Sorry for the poor quality- I had to compress it to pull it in
I took a picture a while back of a cartoon map we have of Arizona and "Punto Penasco" that we guess is from the 30's or 40's. If you want to look at change, look at this. There is no I-10, I-40, I-8 or I-19. No ASU or NAU (just ASTC- but there is U of A!). No Lake Powell, just Lake Mead and Boulder Dam not Hoover Dam (so it must between 1933 and 1947). Sorry for the poor quality- I had to compress it to pull it in
I'd love to get a good copy...I want to recreate the style with a darker vision
If you read my post correctly, basically I did not say that prices went up just for the tourist, because of the US dollar exchange rates!
What I said was that years ago when the exchange rate gave us more pesos, we the tourist made out like a bear! Our money went far in MEXICO!
Now, its reversed, and when we " the US tourist " exchange local currency or use US dollars, the local businesses compute their goods and services on the new exchange rates!
So, a toco that say a month ago was selling for 12.5 mex, the exchange rate than, now, with the buck at say, 14.5 / exchange, that
12.5 mex peso toco now sells for 14.5 peso for that taco now!
So now, the US buck just caused an inflation increase in Mexico! The mergents now raised their price for EVERYBODY, mexican and tourist alike!
Years back it was more stable, and based their supply and service on less tourist influx of money!
My contractors now price in US dollars! They want that 14.5 exchange rate! Remember, this is MEXICO and soon yours will compute their labor in 14.5 or so!
So this is what hurts the poorer locals! Who can not get that higher exchange rate, so in essants, ( ??? ) they are hit with higher inflation for what they buy for their pesos!
So, like I said earlier, back in time, we gained by the higher exchange rates when we changed our money to pesos! And the peso was more stable, for the locals!
Now, the mex that can get dollars exchange them for more pesos, for them, and boom......Mexico inflation for all!
Now, thats why some state and city mayors and governors in Mex want to stop use of our US dollar! It drives the inflation up here!
Other countries have their own reasons for inflation!
I really don't understand any of this...I am in Mexico, I pay in pesos, period.
Can I drive across the border and use pesos at McDonald's or even Taco Bell? Of course not, I am not paying for anything in Mexico via dollars. Those who do are only hurting themselves.
I won't do business with any establishment in Mexico that changes their pricing any time the U.S. dollar has a fluctuation. The Mexican minimum wage and other monetary standards are not based on dollars so the exchange rate is used only as a tool to steal money from unsuspecting people. Again, go to Tucson and build a house with pesos and see how far you get,
Many come to Rocky Point and pay in dollars as a matter of convenience so they don't have to exchange their money during a short trip. Same as the tourists who flood a city when cruise ship pulls into port, there will always be someone willing to take your money. In both cases, these groups overpay for almost all goods and services. If you spend any amount of time in Rocky Point, there is zero reason for you to pay for anything in dollars other than an imported American product.
My husband drove through Caborca last week and brought chicken dinner- but it didn't have white meat! I remember there were a few places in Penasco who would sell chicken for a cheaper price (right by Circle K by the harbor), but it didn't have white meat. Poor breastless chickens!
Not sure I agree with the nashing of teeth on this matter. Sounds like an American talking about how smart they are and how dumb others are. Tourist areas all over have similar issues regarding price. Tourist clientele is often a one time customer so the merchants do not worry about repeat business like an established neighborhood store. Tourists are also out to have a good time and usually don't mind spending a little more to enjoy the vacation. The average Mexican in Penasco does not shop at the tourist shops so there is really little effect for them on a day to day basis. They already know where to shop. The fluctuation in the value of currency has an impact on all imported items, might be good , might be bad, depends. Businesses will do whatever they can to improve margins. Just look at the US banking and Securities business in the US.
The bit about the devaluation ignores the fact that prices adjusted to the new rates. As for bank savings that effected mostly dumb foreigners who had bank accounts with money in them. Most Mexicans have no savings other than what they can hide in their home. The 'store of value' only applies to currency as the price of goods adjusted.
So I am not a tourist but heres the story of the day. I supply the oil and the filter from the new autozone....take it to my mechanic and have the service done..price 50 pesos and when I came home the car was washed and in front of my house. Today I had two nails in my jeep tire, I go to the tire shop on Ocana and the guy works on it for like 20 minutes, install two patches inside the tire makes sure the balance is there and reinstalls same tire, price 70 pesos, I only had dollars today so he said give me 5.00. You can have the usa prices
I'll tell you one thing, if things keep going the way they are, it's going to be impossible to buy a week's groceries for $10.00.
Have you seen the new cars coming out next year? It won't be long before $2,000.00 will only buy a used one.
Did you hear the post office is thinking about charging 7 cents just to mail a letter.
If they raise the minimum wage to $1.00, nobody will be able to hire outside help at the store.
When I first started driving, who would have thought gas would someday cost 25 cents a gallon. Guess we'd be better off leaving the car in the garage.
I'm afraid to send my kids to the movies any more. Ever since they let Clark Gable get by with saying DAMN in GONE WITH THE WIND, it seems every new movie has either HELL or DAMN in it.
I read the other day where somescientist thinks it's possible to put a man on the moon by the end of the century.
They even have some fellows they call astronauts preparing for it down in Texas .
Did you see where some baseball player just signed a contract for $50,000 a year just to play ball? It wouldn't surprise me if someday they'll be making more than the President.
I never thought I'd see the day all our kitchen appliances would be electric. They're even making electric typewriters now.
It's too bad things are so tough nowadays. I see where a few married women are having to work to make ends meet.
It won't be long before youngcouples are going to have to hire someone to watch their kids so they can both work.
I'm afraid the Volkswagen car is going to open the door to a whole lot of foreign business.
Thank goodness I won't live to see the day when the Government takes half our income in taxes. I sometimes wonder if we are electing the best people to government.
The fast food restaurant is convenient for a quick meal, but I seriously doubt they will ever catch on.
There is no sense going on short trips anymore for a weekend. It costs nearly $2.00 a night to stay in a hotel.
No one can afford to be sick anymore. At $15.00 a day in the hospital, it's too rich for my blood.
If they think I'll pay 30 cents for a haircut, forget it.
Driving from Peñasco to Vegas last week, we had 2 blowouts on our RV. Middle of nowhere. Roadside service charged $320 for one replacement tire. Friday, Goodyear told us we could get both replaced under warranty. Still waitig for them. So far they've only found one. Really. Is it that hard to find 5th wheel tires in Vegas?
Driving from Peñasco to Vegas last week, we had 2 blowouts on our RV. Middle of nowhere. Roadside service charged $320 for one replacement tire. Friday, Goodyear told us we could get both replaced under warranty. Still waitig for them. So far they've only found one. Really. Is it that hard to find 5th wheel tires in Vegas?
Should have stayed in Peñasco!
And should have bought from Discount Tires!! :rofl:
I just spent $672.00 yesterday for tires for the Tacoma, plus $40.00 for an alignment. I seriously thought about having it done down there, but didn't want to take the time to figure out who to go to, who's going to have the right size tires, how long will it take, warranties, etc.........you can bet next time I'll "shop around" down there before thinking about having it done here.
Shop around but I'm confident that you will find tires very expensive here in Mexico. Even used ones. I checked a few years ago and I could get tires from Cord at the NAPA in Ajo at about the same price as Tucson.
Julie...you got off light...2 tires for my Dodge truck run me about $500....that's with Discount Tire, and I even had a discount (ha ha) since my ex daughter-in-law works for corporate....
Yes, I thought $320 was a little high. But my "really" comment was directed at how had it seems to be to find that particular tire. Goodyear says that they don't make it anymore. I didn't realize we had such an unusual size. Yep, it's for a 5th wheel, but those are fairly common.
Ok, question? Than what causes inflation at Rocky Point? Maybe the poor Mexican living on very little means, causes it!
And Whoever, and you who you are, seem to put down tourists and northern Gringo's as stupit and dum and maybe idiots or whatever, or MAYBE OTHER POSTERS, and maybe stop being sarcastic in return!
What are you .......are you an Epat and/or
an tourist, old gringo or whatever!
Now if you are a perm resident here on a fm2 or 3, you are then not in the class of a stupit gringo or dum tourist as you say some are! Even if your an xpat, so then you now distant yourself from them!
How about joining in on this forum in a civil manner and not tear down forum members on how stupit or idiots they are for postings their thoughts on this forum!
And not tearing into them, or tourists, or Gringo's about their posts, or anybodyelse!
Does not posters have the input to say their thoughts without you or anybody acting in a, God almighty way, that they may be off a little, nor correct without
condemning then, or only you have the correct answer!
Best, be informative and answer their posts in a civil matter, weather they are right or wrong!
Please be civil, and even your friends, or your friends that are moderators, should agree, as this is, or should be, a civil forum with different points of view can be exchanged!
What do you think when new tourists or new gringo's read and may of not even come here yet, as this forum is most likely read from out of country also.
So, may peace be with you and have greats days in Rocky Point!
Talking or rather a poster said something about a excepting peso's at a Micky D' in the states....
Whenever we cross the border north into Sumerton, US city going to Yuma, we always stop at the Mc Donald there and get lunch in the US, and they take my leftover mex money!
As I think the whole town does! Ha, I'm not going to say this is a US town, but for sure I think its MEXICO!
oh well.....
The Man
(part female, part male, part viscous dog, and part a few other things, part RP ite )
Wow..I think The Man has had a few to many tonight! Pa
next time your eating grapes think of these poor F'ers I know Some growers down by Rosy's old stomping grounds Y griega that just hire locals...works better in the long run
Ok, question? Than what causes inflation at Rocky Point? Maybe the poor Mexican living on very little means, causes it!
And Whoever, and you who you are, seem to put down tourists and northern Gringo's as stupit and dum and maybe idiots or whatever, or MAYBE OTHER POSTERS, and maybe stop being sarcastic in return!
What are you .......are you an Epat and/or
an tourist, old gringo or whatever!
Now if you are a perm resident here on a fm2 or 3, you are then not in the class of a stupit gringo or dum tourist as you say some are! Even if your an xpat, so then you now distant yourself from them!
How about joining in on this forum in a civil manner and not tear down forum members on how stupit or idiots they are for postings their thoughts on this forum!
And not tearing into them, or tourists, or Gringo's about their posts, or anybodyelse!
Does not posters have the input to say their thoughts without you or anybody acting in a, God almighty way, that they may be off a little, nor correct without
condemning then, or only you have the correct answer!
Best, be informative and answer their posts in a civil matter, weather they are right or wrong!
Please be civil, and even your friends, or your friends that are moderators, should agree, as this is, or should be, a civil forum with different points of view can be exchanged!
What do you think when new tourists or new gringo's read and may of not even come here yet, as this forum is most likely read from out of country also.
So, may peace be with you and have greats days in Rocky Point!
The Man
A civil question for you.... Are you being serious when you type the word "stupit" and "dum" or like Jerry mentioned, was it the tequila? Hopefully the later because spelling the word "stupit" and "dum" diminishes your points slightly ;)
You are correct! It seems when I mix some of this great Mexican
beer here, with the percrep
pain meds, can't think in a normal
way, nor does it help my spelling!
You are correct! It seems when I mix some of this great Mexican
beer here, with the percrep
pain meds, can't think in a normal
way, nor does it help my spelling!
Thanks for your post.
The man
Where's here? Where do you stay while you're here, and what do you do besides get **** faced if you are "here"; and how long have you been complimenting Rocky Point with your presence?
Been complimenting this place
since 1989! Don't really as you say
want to get F_ _ _ faced! Had a very bad back injury ....fell 8' flat back
on a cement block! Doc said should
of broke my back!
So, being F_ _ _ faced gives me a little breather, and also reading your comments!
Don't really as you say
want to get F_ _ _ faced! So, being F_ _ _ faced gives me a little breather, and also reading your comments!
the man
Oh man, I didn't say that, everyone knows it's sh_ _ faced. So again, where do you stay, and what do you do besides over medicate yourself while you are here, there.
Been complimenting this place
since 1989! Don't really as you say
want to get F_ _ _ faced! Had a very bad back injury ....fell 8' flat back
on a cement block! Doc said should
of broke my back!
So, being F_ _ _ faced gives me a little breather, and also reading your comments!
the man
"complimenting" Penasco or this Forum? Which one?
You should get together with Happy (Silvia).....he could use some of those great meds that you have a supply of :rofl:
i fell on my head (I know I know) from a roof in 2000.I woke up in a pool of blood with my loyal Welsh Terrier Chester (why do the women get to name the dogs?) happily licking a pool of blood and the wound it came from. First couple months were foggy as i almost voted for Bush. My point is I know a Massage person/Trainer (Ingrid) who would be better for you than Meds.
The Man said:
hi....Kenny......
Been complimenting this place
since 1989! Don't really as you say
want to get F_ _ _ faced! Had a very bad back injury ....fell 8' flat back
on a cement block! Doc said should
of broke my back!
So, being F_ _ _ faced gives me a little breather, and also reading your comments!
Where's here? Where do you stay while you're here, and what do you do besides get **** faced if you are "here"; and how long have you been complimenting Rocky Point with your presence?
C'mon guys...am I the only one in here spotting the fakes? LOL, Kenny, you oughta have spotted this one a mile away.
C'mon guys...am I the only one in here spotting the fakes? LOL, Kenny, you oughta have spotted this one a mile away.
Yep, I agree Rosy. I kind suspect that Silvia had an alter ego. Speaking of Silvia, I kind of miss her/him/it? I've never argued with a transvestite before.
C'mon guys...am I the only one in here spotting the fakes? LOL, Kenny, you oughta have spotted this one a mile away.
This is fun for me Rosie, kind of like how I caught Crawdads as a kid. If you pull the string with the bait to fast they let go, and you have to start all over. So you pull them up real slow so they don't know you've got them till it's to late. :-D Shuuuu, don't scare em off.
Anybody else get a highly complimentary email today from that Puerto Penasco lover, Happy? :rofl::stir:
I'd be glad to share the contents, seeing how Happy is falling all over himself complimenting me, (Thank you Happy, you have me blushing!!!) but I'd get put in time out for the language! :rofl:
Yep, I agree Rosy. I kind suspect that Silvia had an alter ego. Speaking of Silvia, I kind of miss her/him/it? I've never argued with a transvestite before.
More like a schizophrenic.....how many personalities can we identify? :rofl:
