First I love this site and almost all of the folks that post on it. When I first signed on it was rely active with great input and help for people new to Rocky Point. It provided information about the town, fishing and more. But now it is in decline and that makes me sad. This weekend I ask some of the folks what they thought was happening and what could be done to get it back. It seemed the consensus was people were no longer posting or even viewing due to the few that go off on tantrums and hijack threads. These few have spoiled it for so many. I only speak for myself but I feel if the site is to servive those few need to be blocked in some way they are identified more closely. It seems some are so intent on destruction that the have posted under different names etc. I don't see this type of action on othersites I visit and we do not need it here
Stuart Please bring it back and lets move forward to a great site. Thanksfor reading Your friend Bill
It seems some are so intent on destruction that the have posted under different names etc. I don't see this type of action on othersites I visit and we do not need it here
If it's any consolation, this same person is also doing it on a very large hi tech forum that I frequent as well.
Bill, I understand your sentiment. And thank-you for caring.
This forum is like any community. There are those that love it and are actively involved, those that stop in once in awhile to see what's going on, and those that are naysayers for any number of reasons. Over the years, this forum has evolved and offers lots of information for many different users, be it fishing, real estate, crossing the border, whatever. For the most part, I'm pleased with what we offer and the folks that come here on a regular basis. There is no advertising revenue, which is even rarer these days -- not being deluged by an onslaught of pop-up advertisements everywhere you look.
Yes, there are some bad apples and weeding them out is an ongoing process. We have open registration and charge nothing to participate here, which creates part of the problem you mention. We do monitor multiple registrations and who's who under different names. Why? In some cases, both husbands and wives use the same computer to visit this site, each using their own name. Nothing wrong with that at all. We want folks to visit and share. But, it also creates the problem of "certain unnamed users" being able to create a new name from a different IP and fake email address, as has happened a couple times lately.
So rather than restrict things for the majority of the good people in this community, we sometimes have to put up with the bullsh!t from the few losers that seem to have nothing better to do with their time than cause hate and discontent. I often bear the brunt and focus of these attacks and make every effort to ban, control and delete when they do occur. But nobody can sit here and monitor this site 24/7.
I've also been making an effort to control thread hijacking. Some of the worst offenders have been warned about this and I've seen improvement, but it will always happen to some degree as topics evolve and shift. That I have no problem with -- deliberate attempts to derail will get you a ticket to banned camp.
If you (or any other user) has a specific issue, report the post to me and I or Jeeper will check it out ASAP. Neither of us try to be the censors or content police, but if somebody is out and out being a jerk, we will put the dunce cap on them and make them go stand in time out for awhile. Otherwise, you are free to ignore any other user so that you don't have to see any nonsense they post.
As I mentioned, our only real alternative to the openness we offer here is to restrict access and moderate every post, which would destroy the real-time aspect of the information you get here. I'm not in favor of that and, in essence, it's giving into the jerks and letting them win.
First I love this site and almost all of the folks that post on it. When I first signed on it was rely active with great input and help for people new to Rocky Point. It provided information about the town, fishing and more. But now it is in decline and that makes me sad. This weekend I ask some of the folks what they thought was happening and what could be done to get it back. It seemed the consensus was people were no longer posting or even viewing due to the few that go off on tantrums and hijack threads. These few have spoiled it for so many. I only speak for myself but I feel if the site is to servive those few need to be blocked in some way they are identified more closely. It seems some are so intent on destruction that the have posted under different names etc. I don't see this type of action on othersites I visit and we do not need it here
Stuart Please bring it back and lets move forward to a great site. Thanksfor reading Your friend Bill
You mean like when the guy asked where it was good to fish from shore and what to expect to catch because he was going to be here in late December into January and you replied come over for Thanksgiving dinner, PDO #52 ???????????????????????????????? Ill start taking you seriously when you spell SURVIVE correctly, thank you!
My guess is you were at Chuck's place and he is pissed abou the health care thing i reported about his bro (love you chuck!)...except for dog hater Happy the forum has had peace break out since the political stuff was put behind the wall....i think it has been great lately...good posts on ATVing pro and con...fishing stuff .....road trip stuff...warnings on crooked cops....safety stuff....home repair stuff....joking around (Asu fans suck!) great places to eat and shop reports.....i love the forum
and also never has there been such a wide ranging group of knuckleheads with such noses for con men.posted in one place..we all spotted this Altman guy (Boomerfest) at the same time...to bad people that invested in the Puerto Libertad REIT didn't read the forum back in the day...they would be far richer today
[QUOTE: some are so intent on destruction that the have posted under different names etc. I don't see this type of action on othersites I visit and we do not need it here
Stuart Please bring it back and lets move forward to a great site. Thanksfor reading Your friend Bill[/QUOTE]
What suggestions do you have for Stuart 'to bring it back'?
Also, this person could be stopped very easily on this site and what ever other sites he does this to. Cyberharassment ( annoy, abuse,threaten, harass) is a federal crime. If the powers to be don't do anything, then they enable this person and his behavior.
I'm in full agreement with Wood Spinner (Bill), though I lack his sense of the forum's history. As a new resident and new forumisto this year, the small group of masturbatory posters who seem to service only their desire to see their own name in print probably drive thoughtful users away. Tough and thankless job, Stuart. But I hope the pay makes the effort worthwhile. :roll:
Little hard on Joe.....he just gets frustrated at all us old men yelling at clouds
I find it unbelievable how easy you guys go on Joe. What is the favoritism ?? Occasionally he posts something with common sense and worthwhile but it is ridiculous how many times he posts absolute HATE and RAGE and VULGARITY and VENOM without any rebuttal . Why is Joe protected when others who post such profanity and hate and they get banned?? (which is appropriate ! ) I think I know why, but that is no excuse.
Jerry, it's a little more than "getting frustrated as old men yelling at clouds".
While some comments can elicit some "gray", Joe can be very "black & white" with his nasty diatribe at times. Vulgarity on Joe's part is probably an understatement.
I know, this probably will not the most popular post because Joe does get some weird protection from the forum, but it is TRUE !!!!! He is a loose cannon. Just go back and read his nasty ramblings. In fact, they remind me a little of when Jerry came back on his HIGH-HORSE (no pun intended) form Amsterdam and found himself thrown in the slammer (banned from the forum) in no time.
I'd say one of the reasons for declining posts is that there just isn't all the much going on in Rocky Pt. much of the time, especially at this time of year. It's a small town.
Losing Seadweller didn't help. He was a local who knew a lot about what was going on. I think he quit posting after someone got obnoxious with him, but I never really got the story.
I only get down to Rocky Point and surrounding area about once a year, mainly because I can't get others to go with me more often than that. But the place is often in my mind, and I check the forum at least a couple of times a day. Some posts are garbage, but some are entertaining, and I get a lot of useful information that helps me enjoy my visits there more.
I'm a regular visitor to four other forums, two for hunting, one for trout fishing and one for bass/crappie fishing. I occasionally visit other forums. I have noticed that there's a bit more belligerence and quarreling among the regulars on this forum compared to the others. I don't know why.
Seadweler should come back.He got in the middle of the political stuff and had thin skin.If you dish it out you should be ready to take it.Way different that the poor guy with the lost dog Happy taunted...what a jerk move
You mean like when the guy asked where it was good to fish from shore and what to expect to catch because he was going to be here in late December into January and you replied come over for Thanksgiving dinner, PDO #52 ???????????????????????????????? Ill start taking you seriously when you spell SURVIVE correctly, thank you!
I appreciated his invite and will go introduce myself when I arrive!
Bill and Edna Hale are two of the most wonderful people you will ever meet! They help with all our charity things that we do in Rocky Point. Bill makes a wonderful fish fry with his tempura batter! I can't wait to go back to one of their wonderful dinners! They are quality people and I am proud to be their friend!
Seadweler should come back.He got in the middle of the political stuff and had thin skin.If you dish it out you should be ready to take it.
It's my opinion that political stuff on this type of forum is best kept to a minimum. It's hard to avoid it completely since the war on drugs, illegal immigration and cultural aspects of the U.S. and Mexico have impacts on Rocky Point and the border in general, but the less the better. I don't come here for political debates or discussions. If I'm learning about the local fishing and marine life, or local color and history in the northern Sea of Cortez, or the best place to buy seafood or tortillas, I don't care whether I'm getting it from a tea party activist or a socialist. Appreciation of the Sea of Cortez experience and Mexican culture should be the common glue that holds this forum's community together and obviates other differences we might have as individuals.
It's not that I don't have strong opinions. It took me a while (maybe 30 years), but I finally realized that most people don't want my help in improving their minds. Right or wrong, they've established their own subjective realities that they're comfortable with and would just like to be left alone to believe in them. I don't enjoy discussing (arguing) with people who aren't even hearing me. I also realize that there probably isn't a soul on Earth who doesn't hold some opinion on some subject that is radically at odds with my own. So if shared knowledge and enjoyment of the northern Sea of Cortez is my goal, why post remarks that can interfere with that?
I'm involved in many forums for motorcycles, motorhomes/RV, guns and fishing. The same people that are giving you helpful advice in the technical posts then turn around and cast aspersions on your parentage in a political post. It has to do with the anonymity of the web I think because I'm pretty sure nobody would talk that kind of sh*t to my face (6'4" 280 pounds). But I digress.
My gun forum has "watercooler" section where anything goes. However, you must have 50 posts to participate. That seems to work well, but you can't be easily butthurt as it is dominated by the wackiest of the right wing whack-jobs. You go in there and have an opposing viewpoint you will be crushed. Not cool. Not fair. But it is a private site and if you don't like it you can leave. ALL of the other forums I participate in have a strict no politics policy and any infighting is dealt with quickly. Your post is removed and you are warned via PM. If you fail to heed said warning you are banned.
Milder... one week. He has been warned in the past and I realize he has good days and bad days, but he needs to stick to posting about things and not about other members he takes issue with.
ALL of the other forums I participate in have a strict no politics policy and any infighting is dealt with quickly. Your post is removed and you are warned via PM. If you fail to heed said warning you are banned.
If it is not dealt with, it will kill the forum.
Same here. It's why we have Rants and Raves and why it is now only by requested access. It took a long time to reign in the political bull crap. The couple of other forums I'm involved with are the same.
Also we should remember that this is a free forum supported and maintained by Tyler, Stuart and Jeeps. I hope the members can do a better job of policing themselves and not trying to police each other. Please stop pouring gasoline on every detected spark !! To quote a common comment from an old TV show "Stifle yourself" (who was it?).
Agree on the program but I thought it was HIM not HER ??
Archie Bunker is the "him" you're looking for. The show was "All in the Family." And the "stifle yourself..." phrase was most commonly followed by the word I posted and directed at his wife, Edith Bunker.
The show explored a LOT of working class issues of the day and Archie was about as bigoted a racist as one could be. You have to wonder, given the rampant political correctness of today, if any station would even dare air a show like All in the Family.
Archie Bunker is the "him" you're looking for. The show was "All in the Family." And the "stifle yourself..." phrase was most commonly followed by the word I posted and directed at his wife, Edith Bunker.
The show explored a LOT of working class issues of the day and Archie was about as bigoted a racist as one could be. You have to wonder, given the rampant political correctness of today, if any station would even dare air a show like All in the Family.
I've seen some reruns in the last few years and I watched the show as a kid. I doubt any network would air a show like that now. It made fun of Archie, and show just how ignorant he was which was a good thing at the time, but we've swung to an extreme opposite now.
Carol Burnett was one of my favorites. Sonny and Cher, Donny and Marie. Even Tony Orlando and Dawn. Such good hearted silliness. Not pure violence and sex all the time on every single show. Don't even get me started on the lyrics to current pop songs now . . . it's disgusting.
Yes, I realize that I sound like the little old lady who screams at the neighborhood kids from her front porch!
Carol Burnett was one of my favorites. Sonny and Cher, Donny and Marie. Even Tony Orlando and Dawn. Such good hearted silliness. Not pure violence and sex all the time on every single show. Don't even get me started on the lyrics to current pop songs now . . . it's disgusting.
Yes, I realize that I sound like the little old lady who screams at the neighborhood kids from her front porch!
Have you ever watched South Park? They gore everyone's ox......
Me personally, I don't have cable.
I love South Park simply for the fact that there is no such thing as a sacred cow with them. But it is only available via cable, unless you go buy DVDs or something to watch it. When the shows mentioned in this thread aired, there was no such thing as "cable." Most cities had the big three alphabet stations and some had a few UHF stations to boot... all free, all public TV. It's amazing Archie cut it back then, but as said, he'd be shot down in flames today as too racist.
Bill and Edna Hale are two of the most wonderful people you will ever meet! They help with all our charity things that we do in Rocky Point. Bill makes a wonderful fish fry with his tempura batter! I can't wait to go back to one of their wonderful dinners! They are quality people and I am proud to be their friend!
I agree - Bill + Edna are 2 of the nicest folks we have met and we SO look forward to time with them when we visit. I think it's 5 consecutive years of Thanksgiving with them at Chuck + Vals now - quality folks - the entire group!
as to tv shows, there's some funny shows there if you look on comedy central - something for everyone.
Tosh.O cracks me up.
When the shows mentioned in this thread aired, there was no such thing as "cable." Most cities had the big three alphabet stations and some had a few UHF stations to boot... all free, all public TV.
Cable apparently came to different parts of the country at different times. We actually had cable in the late 1950's. Living in the mountains of Pa. broadcast reception was iffy at best as the stations were quite distant. There were 3 channels, two iffy and one pretty good. We got free cable back in those days because they needed to put a large junction box or signal amplifyer on the ground at certain intervals in town. Lucky us, we were selected and a 24x24x24 silver box was mounted next to our house. Some neighbors descovered they got a great signal if they aimed their antennas at the box. Unfortunately for us our signal went to crap then!!
Cable apparently came to different parts of the country at different times. We actually had cable in the late 1950's. Living in the mountains of Pa. broadcast reception was iffy at best as the stations were quite distant. There were 3 channels, two iffy and one pretty good. We got free cable back in those days because they needed to put a large junction box or signal amplifyer on the ground at certain intervals in town. Lucky us, we were selected and a 24x24x24 silver box was mounted next to our house. Some neighbors descovered they got a great signal if they aimed their antennas at the box. Unfortunately for us our signal went to crap then!!
Anywhere near Palmerton, PA? Not far from Allentown?
I find it unbelievable how easy you guys go on Joe. What is the favoritism ?? Occasionally he posts something with common sense and worthwhile but it is ridiculous how many times he posts absolute HATE and RAGE and VULGARITY and VENOM without any rebuttal . Why is Joe protected when others who post such profanity and hate and they get banned?? (which is appropriate ! ) I think I know why, but that is no excuse.
People often tip-toe on eggshells when dealing with persons who have physical disabilities (although I doubt Joe expects any particular form of sympathy or special treatment).
But- you also have to keep in mind that much of Joe's "energy" is merely youthful pride and exuberance finding an often "unpolished" method of expression. :ugeek:
I have no idea why Joe has zeroed in so nastily on Bill, But if I know Bill well enough, I'm sure he's not losing any sleep over Joe's "disapproval" of his social mannerisms in the forum. :wink: I echo the sentiments of others here- Bill and Edna are great folks.
Funny thing is that Joe has mentioned on a couple occasions how he wished he could fish some of the more remote beaches, but can't do so unless he has help launching his kayak - and Bill Hale is the kind of guy that would probably lend that helping hand, if asked.
Funny how the bridges we sometimes choose to burn are the ones that lead to the destinations we dream of going... pure irony.
We all understand that there are people who aggravate us... that's simply a reality that goes with being human.
Joe simply needs to consider the fact that lashing out at people who bug you does about as much social good as pissing into the wind.
These are great responses. Very positive and I hope it carries over to the rest of the forum.<br><br>I for one would like to invite Mark, Rick Felder and Chuck back to the forum. I believe they always had good input and were good for all.
Mark in particular was fantastic- he's the one who got my family and me snorkeling in Lobos. I really miss his videos, suggestions on how to improve the community, and his insight.
People often tip-toe on eggshells when dealing with persons who have physical disabilities (although I doubt Joe expects any particular form of sympathy or special treatment).
I believe he had a bad spine injury due to an ATV accident in Rocky Point, but I do not know all the details, or his current ability/disability. I know he has made much progress since then.
You mean like when the guy asked where it was good to fish from shore and what to expect to catch because he was going to be here in late December into January and you replied come over for Thanksgiving dinner, PDO #52 ???????????????????????????????? Ill start taking you seriously when you spell SURVIVE correctly, thank you!
I don't see why this was a banning event. LP Larry just accused Joe and poor me of being Pot smokers and was he banned?All Joe(who gets along fine by himself) said was Mr.Bill can't spell. I also would welcome the two long time RP experts back ;but just remember they were 2 of the guys that started a lot of the political fights. Sadley they then couldn't hang in the debates like The Corvina's,Dry heat,RPLarry,Mr. Moore or Stewart...........Hell one of you guys signed me up to Right wing Catholic web sites and Kiddy Porn links... no crybabying from me....
I don't see why this was a banning event. LP Larry just accused Joe and poor me of being Pot smokers and was he banned?All Joe(who gets along fine by himself) said was Mr.Bill can't spell. I also would welcome the two long time RP experts back ;but just remember they were 2 of the guys that started a lot of the political fights. Sadley they then couldn't hang in the debates like The Corvina's,Dry heat,RPLarry,Mr. Moore or Stewart...........Hell one of you guys signed me up to Right wing Catholic web sites and Kiddy Porn links... no crybabying from me....
Isn't accusing you of smoking pot like giving you a trophy and putting you up on a pedestal?? Why would I be banned for suggesting something you admit to on a regular basis on this forum?
Seriously Jerry, smoking pot is a private matter and I'm glad you are so proud of it and enjoy it so much. But man, I think the hooch is starting to affect your reason and logic.
Now that I think of it, it is making sense. Being a leftyANDsmoking hooch will definitely affect your reason and logic. Toke away my friend!:puff:
The silent dog whisperers on this web site crack me up.You can't say come right out and say what you think...because it is hateful. Todays example Fake concern about Joe's physical state when you really want to say "screw you cripple"
I don't see why this was a banning event. Because it's like the 2nd or 3rd time Joe attacked Bill for this very same thing, when Bill was simply extending an invite to a new fisherman on the board. That's why. He got banned for a week for being a jerk. I also would welcome the two long time RP experts back ;but just remember they were 2 of the guys that started a lot of the political fights. Sadley they then couldn't hang in the debates like The Corvina's,Dry heat,RPLarry,Mr. Moore or Stewart...........Hell one of you guys signed me up to Right wing Catholic web sites and Kiddy Porn links... You ever wonder if that is part of Happy's mischief... I now get email regularly from the Arizona Democratic Party... somebody signed me up for it; I certainly didn't. no crybabying from me....
The silent dog whisperers on this web site crack me up.You can't say come right out and say what you think...because it is hateful. Todays example Fake concern about Joe's physical state when you really want to say "screw you cripple"
Uhhhh, I certainly didn't get that context from anybody's post, Jerry. Not exactly sure where you did. Dry Heat asked a legitimate question; I provided a legitimate answer, within my limits of understanding of Joe's current condition. It was by no means meant to deride Joe or make fun of him in any way whatsoever. He has publicly posted here on a few occasions about his progress since his accident. I don't see anyone making fun of him, only offering encouragement. Please explain why you feel this way.
The silent dog whisperers on this web site crack me up.You can't say come right out and say what you think...because it is hateful. Todays example Fake concern about Joe's physical state when you really want to say "screw you cripple"
Who do you refer too?
Who expressed any sense of care or concern about Joe's physical condition?
Your self-righteousness may be at elevated levels again - It seems to have you believing that you can read minds and see what other people "really want to say" ....
You might want to get that checked out by your other buddy (you know- the Mirador Meter Maid)... :rofl:
You....but hey you were just protecting a tribal elder by firing a shot at Joe by slinging some bs psychoanalytical explanation of why Joe struck out at poor Bill .Joe fired that initial shot at Bill because he smelled BS in the tone of Bill's concern trolling thread.Bill knew Happy was banned and most likely was posting this thread after talking to one or both of the exiles.He was sort of causing trouble.
moore_rb said:
Who do you refer too?
Who expressed any sense of care or concern about Joe's physical condition?
Your self-righteousness may be at elevated levels again - It seems to have you believing that you can read minds and see what other people "really want to say" ....
You might want to get that checked out by your other buddy (you know- the Mirador Meter Maid)... :rofl:
Exactly, Bill was brain washed or lite up by fish fry crew. He never had the courage to post before, and as a matter of fact Bill was the first to unleash Happy on us, OH and BTH Bill is very good at starting these threads and running off for help to jeepers.
You....but hey you were just protecting a tribal elder by firing a shot at Joe by slinging some bs psychoanalytical explanation of why Joe struck out at poor Bill .Joe fired that initial shot at Bill because he smelled BS in the tone of Bill's concern trolling thread.Bill knew Happy was banned and most likely was posting this thread after talking to one or both of the exiles.He was sort of causing trouble.
A tribal elder...? what in the HELL are you talking about?
This whole thing started when Bill welcomed a new guy to the fishing forum, and Joe decided that he had to be Bill's self-appointed "editor" and tore into him about it.
Bill does some thing (or things) that bug Joe... I get it. But Christ, why be so petty as to call people out when they bother you? It's juvenile.
and hey- Joe may be physically challenged, but at least he isn't an effing mental retard, like HIS "tribal elders"...
"Hey- remember that time, when that guy said that thing, and it pissed off that girl, and so she ran off and told that other dude to kick his ass...? "
Exactly, Bill was brain washed or lite up by fish fry crew. He never had the courage to post before, and as a matter of fact Bill was the first to unleash Happy on us, OH and BTH Bill is very good at starting these threads and running off for help to jeepers.
What the hell are you talking about, Abel? Are you trying to get deleted?
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Why would you have brought up Joe's current physical state in the first place? The answer is you were causing trouble because you like causing trouble.Bill started the thread to cause trouble,Joe smacked him around to cause trouble,Rplarry joined in because he loves trouble too.I joined the fray to back joe and more importantly to cause trouble for Larry and Mr. Moore.Perro of course had to cause trouble and even Dry heat wanted a piece of this scramble...amazingly Kenny stayed out of it...must be his new Free mason training RPJoe is strangly quiet for a troublemakers trouble maker too
moore_rb said:
A tribal elder...? what in the HELL are you talking about?
This whole thing started when Bill welcomed a new guy to the fishing forum, and Joe decided that he had to be Bill's self-appointed "editor" and tore into him about it.
Bill does some thing (or things) that bug Joe... I get it. But Christ, why be so petty as to call people out when they bother you? It's juvenile.
and hey- Joe may be physically challenged, but at least he isn't an effing mental retard, like HIS "tribal elders"...
"Hey- remember that time, when that guy said that thing, and it pissed off that girl, and so she ran off and told that other dude to kick his ass...? "
I find it unbelievable how easy you guys go on Joe. What is the favoritism ?? Occasionally he posts something with common sense and worthwhile but it is ridiculous how many times he posts absolute HATE and RAGE and VULGARITY and VENOM without any rebuttal . Why is Joe protected when others who post such profanity and hate and they get banned?? (which is appropriate ! ) I think I know why, but that is no excuse.
Jerry, it's a little more than "getting frustrated as old men yelling at clouds".
While some comments can elicit some "gray", Joe can be very "black & white" with his nasty diatribe at times. Vulgarity on Joe's part is probably an understatement.
I know, this probably will not the most popular post because Joe does get some weird protection from the forum, but it is TRUE !!!!! He is a loose cannon. Just go back and read his nasty ramblings. In fact, they remind me a little of when Jerry came back on his HIGH-HORSE (no pun intended) form Amsterdam and found himself thrown in the slammer (banned from the forum) in no time.
MUST BE A HOOCH THING.....
I don't care what they say, I still think you must be a girl.:crybaby:
I'm thinking the private messages that Stuart gets are a bigger pain in the butt for him than whats posted out here in the light, and by a large margin.
The four Covina? LOL
Why would you have brought up Joe's current physical state in the first place? The answer is you were causing trouble because you like causing trouble.
I brought it up for the same reason I often bring up my own baldness (or arrogance) or Stuart's tallness, or yours and Playa's frequent, girlish drama queen acts...
Joe's walker does NOT define him - it is an ATTRIBUTE of his being.
His walker is irrelevant, quite frankly.
Larry asked a question:
I find it unbelievable how easy you guys go on Joe. What is the favoritism ?? ..... I think I know why, but that is no excuse
What I made was a PERSONAL OBSERVATION in response:
People often tip-toe on eggshells when dealing with persons who have physical disabilities
Now, what exactly about my observation offended you so?
Or, are you going to challenge the premise of my statement that some (many?) people act differently around physically different people?
I think neither is the case- I think what you REALLY wanted to do is exactly what you did- focus on me, jump on your high-horse, and then try to demonstrate to the world that you are a morally superior person - Same thing you always do.
You see, this isn't about Joe, and it isn't about Bill - it's about JERRY's need to be the ethics and morality police, and to make sure that there is fairness and equality in the world, 24x7...
You have more hair than me.... how come you never come to MY defense when people make fun of my baldness....?
Baldness wise we are pretty much a tie....you guys are saying Joe acted out because he uses a walker to get around while he rehabs.In reality all he did was throw a spitball at that clever old fox Bill. Bill is the problem here not Joe...he was causing trouble.If i had a high horse he would be crapping in your boat right now...
you guys are saying Joe acted out because he uses a walker to get around while he rehabs.
That is NOT so...
That is nothing more than YOUR interpretation of what you think I MEANT.... but it has nothing to do with reality.
NOBODY said that, and in my own case, I never implied it, nor did I ever even think it.
Your mind reading skills SUCK, Jerry... I'm sorry to have to be the one to break this news to you.
Larry asked why people seem to treat Joe differently, and I made an observation about human behavior (in general) towards people with physical differences. You did not challenge the basis of my premise- instead you tried to make it out like I was objectifying Joe over the condition of his legs- and to that, all I can say is that you clearly don't understand me. I have NEVER treated ANYONE with less human dignity because of their appearance, race, physical ability, or even their freaking baldness.
The condition of Joe's legs (and the existence of his walker) are NOT reasonable excuses for his sometimes poor social behavior in the forum.
In fact, these two conditions are totally IRRELEVANT and unrelated.
I have no idea why YOU decided to try and make it look like they are relevant... actually- scratch that- I think I do know why. It's because (I think) you like to gravitate toward drama like a 13 year old girl.
Mexico Joe- If/when you read this, I hope that if/when we ever meet in RP, that we will shake hands and talk about fishing, golf, DIY bait tank design, and girls in bikinis.... you know, the kind of stuff MEN talk about, and not:
"He said, and then I said, and she's all, so I'm all, and then Jerry came in and he's like... totally lame... what----everrrrrrr"
A little boy was excited about his first day at school. So excited in fact, that only a few minutes after class started, he realized that he desperately needed to go to the bathroom. So he raised his hand politely to ask if he could be excused. Of course the teacher said yes, but asked him to be quick. Five minutes later he returned, looking more desperate and embarrassed. "I can't find it", he admitted. The teacher sat him down and drew him a little diagram to where he should go and asked him if he will be able to find it now. The boy looked at the diagram, said "yes" and goes on his way. Five minutes later he returned to the class room and says to the teacher "I can't find it". Frustrated, the teacher asked Jon, a boy who has been at the school for awhile, to help him find the bathroom. So two fellas go together and five minutes later they both return and sit down at their seats. The teacher asks Jon, "Well, did you find it?" Jon is quick with his reply: "Oh sure, he just had his boxer shorts on backwards"
That is nothing more than YOUR interpretation of what you think I MEANT.... but it has nothing to do with reality.
NOBODY said that, and in my own case, I never implied it, nor did I ever even think it.
Your mind reading skills SUCK, Jerry... I'm sorry to have to be the one to break this news to you.
Larry asked why people seem to treat Joe differently, and I made an observation about human behavior (in general) towards people with physical differences. You did not challenge the basis of my premise- instead you tried to make it out like I was objectifying Joe over the condition of his legs- and to that, all I can say is that you clearly don't understand me. I have NEVER treated ANYONE with less human dignity because of their appearance, race, physical ability, or even their freaking baldness.
The condition of Joe's legs (and the existence of his walker) are NOT reasonable excuses for his sometimes poor social behavior in the forum.
In fact, these two conditions are totally IRRELEVANT and unrelated.
I have no idea why YOU decided to try and make it look like they are relevant... actually- scratch that- I think I do know why. It's because (I think) you like to gravitate toward drama like a 13 year old girl.
Mexico Joe- If/when you read this, I hope that if/when we ever meet in RP, that we will shake hands and talk about fishing, golf, DIY bait tank design, and girls in bikinis.... you know, the kind of stuff MEN talk about, and not:
"He said, and then I said, and she's all, so I'm all, and then Jerry came in and he's like... totally lame... what----everrrrrrr"
Just a simple observation but it appears that those who fish or frequent the fishing forum (and actually have a take) have a more laid back personality and make a hell of a lot more sense and less desire to stir up ****. Except for good ole Happy. I think he just liked getting out and stroking his pole. Nonetheless, fish more, enjoy good food & drink and enjoy the company of others.
