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Isla Angel de la Guardia adventure trip June 7-11 wow

Started by jerry · Jun 13, 2013 · 37 replies
jerry
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Just a short post I will fill the blanks in on later as i am back in the real world digging a damn footer in rock but had to tell you shore monkeys about the trip we took for Matt's birthday on Ted from Lobos boats. We headed 60 miles across the Vermilion Sea to a protected bay on the North end of Guardia Island with water like bath water. A calm little cove that we set up camp on was as pretty as a picture..Even me, the worlds worst fisherman caught some good ones but the surface casting for the Leopard Groupers that would slam into the white rubber lures was pretty amazing.Sort of like big colorful tropical bass...slam!!!!!! What a place....unreal snorkeling and diving....unreal spear fishing too.Check out Paul from Caborca's Grouper.....The visibility down past 60 feet was pretty cool
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playaperro
Hey Jerry , mi Amigo querido, you in Tucson, any leftover grouper?
azfish
That's a slob brother, who speared it?
mexicoruss
Love those pics!
jerry
playaperro said:
Hey Jerry , mi Amigo querido, you in Tucson, any leftover grouper?

Sorry Playa...rule one on these trips would be you never have enough ice and fish for the homeboys on the last dayphoto (1).jpg
jerry
azfish said:
That's a slob brother, who speared it?
one of the Caborca guys...all class people...one of them (Sam) can free dive 60 feet plus...pretty interesting training techniques
dirtsurfer
A great adventure! Thanks for posting.
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
Isla Ángel de la Guarda - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Just a short post I will fill the blanks in on later as i am back in the real world digging a damn footer in rock but had to tell you shore monkeys about the trip we took for Matt's birthday on Ted from Lobos boats. We headed 60 miles across the Vermilion Sea to a protected bay on the North end of Guardia Island with water like bath water. A calm little cove that we set up camp on was as pretty as a picture..Even me, the worlds worst fisherman caught some good ones but the surface casting for the Leopard Groupers that would slam into the white rubber lures was pretty amazing.Sort of like big colorful tropical bass...slam!!!!!! What a place....unreal snorkeling and diving....unreal spear fishing too.Check out Paul from Caborca's Grouper.....The visibility down past 60 feet was pretty cool
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Damn you Jerry!
jerry
2013-05-25.jpgThe logistics of getting to the island(and more importantly back) were pretty interesting.Maintain and prep of boat so it runs like a top,careful packing the load ,getting all the camping gear just right,travel with another boat...note.. we saw baby whale shark in Lobos ..saying a prayer to the Virgin couldn't hurt before returning
azfish
Those trucks amaze me.
jerry
image.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgimage.jpgSnorkeling with seals and turtles,Ted on a Sardenero,Matt with a Yellow Tail and the great character nicknamed Chino that is Samuel's butler sort of
Hooch
Wow now that looks like a awesome trip.
Stuart
jerry said:
the great character nicknamed Chino that is Samuel's butler sort of


Uhhhhh... "bodyguard" is the more accurate word here. Yes, I have met both of them. :puff:

I'm going to have to do a trip like this. I'll need a fuel bladder, though. 120 miles from Penasco as the crow flies and although I have the range to get there and back, doesn't leave much gas for fishing or miscalculation. And you don't want to run out of gas there. Too many miles to anywhere from there.

Glad you got to go, Jerry. Lucky dog!

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Sixty
What a great trip! I would love to see more pic's and hear more details. I have always wanted to make a trip like that.
jerry
Sixty said:
What a great trip! I would love to see more pic's and hear more details. I have always wanted to make a trip like that.

will do...waiting for the underwater shots from a throw away camera one of the guys had.
jerry
Stuart said:
Uhhhhh... "bodyguard" is the more accurate word here. Yes, I have met both of them. :puff:

I'm going to have to do a trip like this. I'll need a fuel bladder, though. 120 miles from Penasco as the crow flies and although I have the range to get there and back, doesn't leave much gas for fishing or miscalculation. And you don't want to run out of gas there. Too many miles to anywhere from there.

Glad you got to go, Jerry. Lucky dog!

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I need to put down some notes before I forget them.The details are pretty important to have worked out.Ted was pretty much the rock of the trip for all boats with is good because he plans for the worst and hopes for the best quite effectively.I am doing a map of cool places we fished,snorkeled,dove and hiked.Nights at the camp site were just a blast.Silvia from Caborca cooked for us and cleaned up with the help of Sam's assistants.Great sea food every night then the Bacanora came out!.It was well worth the 100 bucks not to have to mess with cooking.Why not leave from Lobos? I really learned a lot about the people and place last week(lobos).It is very interesting and I hope it doesn't change to much. Have you met Mason and family down there? He is bigger than life.They(wife and 8 kids...all adventurers with a house in Lobos) need to be on a reality show.
PintoPoint
I would love to take a trip like that. It would be great to hook up with a couple of other boats and make a weekend out of it. I in.

Rick
Cholla Bay
jerry
image.jpgstill scratching Jejene bites Bring bug spray....big bottle
Stuart
jerry said:
Why not leave from Lobos?


I haven't tried launching my boat at Lobos. Basically, it's too big and A) if I could get it in that road without bottoming it out somewhere (trailer length) and B) not get stuck in the sand getting down to the launch area (weight with full fuel, water, supplies, etc.) and C) the launcher may be able to get me in, but may not be able to get me back out.

I've seen and heard about launching issues there with boats smaller than mine. Ted's boat launches okay there, as does Sam's. But I know Sam had some serious issues with the larger Grady he had there. I think he took that boat down to Cancun.

Not sure if I've met Mason; I think so. There are some great people there.
jerry
Stuart said:
I haven't tried launching my boat at Lobos. Basically, it's too big and A) if I could get it in that road without bottoming it out somewhere (trailer length) and B) not get stuck in the sand getting down to the launch area (weight with full fuel, water, supplies, etc.) and C) the launcher may be able to get me in, but may not be able to get me back out.

I've seen and heard about launching issues there with boats smaller than mine. Ted's boat launches okay there, as does Sam's. But I know Sam had some serious issues with the larger Grady he had there. I think he took that boat down to Cancun.

Not sure if I've met Mason; I think so. There are some great people there.
. I wonder about launching at Libertad?....Sams boat is pretty big and he launched in bad but not terrible conditions....it is 60 miles from Lobos to Guardia...about as far as you go out from Penasco to the outer reef
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Sixty
I would be up for a trip like this in my 25' Mako. It only holds 130 gallons of fuel with a safe range of 150 miles with fishing involved. Fuel bladder is probably the best bet for me and I'd rather not make the run from RP. It would be great to have 3 or four boats.
jerry
Sixty said:
I would be up for a trip like this in my 25' Mako. It only holds 130 gallons of fuel with a safe range of 150 miles with fishing involved. Fuel bladder is probably the best bet for me and I'd rather not make the run from RP. It would be great to have 3 or four boats.
Once you get there the fishing is all pretty close...I am making a map...the boats brought extra 5 gal. cans and if you watched it you were good.If you decided to dive one last time and ran out of gas 5 miles from Lobos you get towed in and get yelled at.
CJ*
So true about Mason & family, they would make for an awesome Reality Show!!!!!
Sixty
Oops, double post, with edited response.

I would definately bring some cans especially since i have a heavy throttle hand. I may look into building some auxilliary bow tanks to increase my range. The twin Hondas are pretty efficient but i rarely get better that 1.5 mpg. Always in a hurry to hit the "spot".

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wishamako1
going to the island the biggest issue is ice, lots of fish but ice does not last, we tried dry ice and magical coolers but we ran out, filet everthing you can ice down and or eat on the spot
Sixty
wishamako1 said:
going to the island the biggest issue is ice, lots of fish but ice does not last, we tried dry ice and magical coolers but we ran out, filet everthing you can ice down and or eat on the spot


Block ice in coffin coolers is always the best. It will last 5 days in 90d weather in the shade. Ice is always an issue on long campouts. Keeping fish for without freezing is always risky
jerry
Sixty said:
Block ice in coffin coolers is always the best. It will last 5 days in 90d weather in the shade. Ice is always an issue on long campouts. Keeping fish for without freezing is always risky

We had a big Yeti but not enough ice...big mistake....Ted brought the generators and small freezer plus compressor for tanks over for the other guys. Sort of loud at night but there was no sitting on this trip...bed time I was out
Sixty
jerry said:
We had a big Yeti but not enough ice...big mistake....Ted brought the generators and small freezer plus compressor for tanks over for the other guys. Sort of loud at night but there was no sitting on this trip...bed time I was out


Now that's how to do it!

With block ice you bring one cooler just for ice and fill it tight. It will last a long time like that. Sounds like a very well planned trip. I would definately be up for an adventure like that. I have a small fridge on the Mako but its pretty much worthless for anything over a 12 pack.
jerry
puerto refugio 2013 - YouTube
Phil from Austrailia put this together of the trip.At the end the Picture of my white house and Atv/Cactus Forrest stuff is at Santo Tomas.
JoseAz
Wow! I'm not sure many people understand all that is the Sea of Cortez. maybe thats a good thin ;-)
asprinkles
Jerry looks like an awesome time. I hope to get over there someday.Leigh
moore_rb
Stuart said:
I haven't tried launching my boat at Lobos. Basically, it's too big and A) if I could get it in that road without bottoming it out somewhere (trailer length) and B) not get stuck in the sand getting down to the launch area (weight with full fuel, water, supplies, etc.) and C) the launcher may be able to get me in, but may not be able to get me back out.

I've seen and heard about launching issues there with boats smaller than mine. Ted's boat launches okay there, as does Sam's. But I know Sam had some serious issues with the larger Grady he had there. I think he took that boat down to Cancun.

Not sure if I've met Mason; I think so. There are some great people there.


I met Mason at Phx Fishing Supply right before they left to go down- agree, he is a cool guy.

I'll tell ya- I've trailered my boat to Lobos and back, and that 2 miles of dirt road puts about 2 years of wear and tear on your trailer, but it is a very fun experience - I'll do it again.

Recovery is the real trick, especially if there is a chop. I'll put some side-boards on my trailer before I beach launch down there again.


So, come clean Jerry- Did you have to adhere to some "ground rules" up front before spending a week with Ted? I mean, mentioning the present occupant of the White House with any degree of affinity in Ted's presence would be enough to get you thrown overboard to the sharks

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jerry
moore_rb said:
I met Mason at Phx Fishing Supply right before they left to go down- agree, he is a cool guy.

I'll tell ya- I've trailered my boat to Lobos and back, and that 2 miles of dirt road puts about 2 years of wear and tear on your trailer, but it is a very fun experience - I'll do it again.

Recovery is the real trick, especially if there is a chop. I'll put some side-boards on my trailer before I beach launch down there again.


So, come clean Jerry- Did you have to adhere to some "ground rules" up front before spending a week with Ted? I mean, mentioning the present occupant of the White House with any degree of affinity in Ted's presence would be enough to get you thrown overboard to the sharks


No politics but lots of great life experiece talks.Hanging with the Aussies was great fun too....you would have been a good addition to the trip.Plus as you know the libertarian right and the non nanny state left have common ground. We did talk about your grouper article and how big they can get in 5 years.The problem is if the Chinese come to our little corner of the the Sea of Cortez everything will die but it is still a damn amazing at this point



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moore_rb
Sixty said:
I would be up for a trip like this in my 25' Mako. It only holds 130 gallons of fuel with a safe range of 150 miles with fishing involved. Fuel bladder is probably the best bet for me and I'd rather not make the run from RP. It would be great to have 3 or four boats.


My Mako 234 holds 150 gal, and has twin Suzuki DF140's. I have run to Lobos over water from Penasco twice, and each time I used 3/4 tank for the round trip, and that was cruising 4500RPM and about 26mph.

If I was gonna tack an extra 100 miles on the round trip to go all the way to Refugio from Penasco, I would pack at least an extra 50 gallons.

Hmmm... maybe I need to start talking to Ted about signing on for next year's trip from Lobos...
Ted
IMG_2384.jpg clam, scallop, coconut cocktail

Refuge Camp - YouTube


Jerry -it was a pleasure to get to know you better-thank you for all your special help-Matt, Ian and Phil, you guys are all great, very helpful, appreciative and fun-memorable trip, special place
Sixty
Great video! that big Triton with the 225's is a monster. I bet its a comfy ride.

Moore_Rb,

I have twin Honda 150's on my 253, which is a heavy boat. Last fall I ran out of San Diego to the butterflies (which is almost a 60nm run straight east) in 5' seas and fished the entire day. Back at the slip we logged about 150nm (ran way south too). About 1/3 of the miles was at full throttle, 35+ knots in a cross sea. Burned over 100gal on that day. Cruising it will go 2mpg all day long but with fishing involved it seems like 1.5 is the norm. Whenever possible I can't keep my hand out of the throttle, must be the devil on my shoulder.

One thing is for sure, the Mako eats up the seas! I am sure your 234 does too, infact I think they might be the same hull.

I am definately interested in a trip like this.
Red Drum
Great report and pics!
jerry
http://www.photosnack.com/5BFD6B6BDC9/p7pmg38i. Well it goes on for friggin ever but put my slides together...well a bot did it and I clicked the button