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New Crossing Structure

Started by Roberto · Aug 4, 2013 · 58 replies
Roberto
There is a HUGE fabric covered structure covering the three lanes betwen the inbound inspction stations and the chain link fence at the shopping area. It's gott be over 100 feet in length and at least 25 or 30 ft tall. It was unoccupied yesterday except for some construction equipment but I bet it will house the outbound inspection lanes soon. It will free up the one inbound inspection lane recently used for outbound traffic and provide two or three lanes for outbound inspections. Should speed things up a bit coming into Mexico.
Senor Pescado
Last weekend I spoke to the customs official - he said they will be able to use it for out kind and as backup for busy inbound weekends as well adding additional lanes - I just hope they have the personnel to man it.
fatboyharley
It is impressive Saw it this weekend.
tequilatodd
Post a pic
Roberto
tequilatodd said:
Post a pic


I tried to photgraph it but 3 ICE guys rushed me and threatened jail time. National Security. If the illegals saw it they would figure out how to avoid it. Particularly concerned about Al Quida driving vehicles backwards through the exit lane to fool the inspectors during slow times. They have developed special vehicles with the bodies reversed on the chassis and a dummy driver sitting in what appears to be the drivers seat while the vehicle is computer controlled remotely. Each vehicle is equipped to generate smoke as from a worn engine to further confuse things. All the while a sound system repeats Aiii Carramba, over and over while the vehicle bucks and jolts, just to add authenticity.
GV Jack
That's pretty funny Roberto, but I actually had a dog that would sneak backwards into the dining room during dinner.

Old Archie figured if he couldn't see us, we couldn't see him. Oh crap, I just GV Jacked a thread.
Kenny
GV Jack said:
That's pretty funny Roberto, but I actually had a dog that would sneak backwards into the dining room during dinner.

Old Archie figured if he couldn't see us, we couldn't see him. Oh crap, I just GV Jacked a thread.

That reminds me..I grew up with a boxer/Doberman, black and tan, with two tan spots on her butt with a cropped tail. One of my parents friends had brought over their little kid and he had squatted down to look closely at our dog snoopers butt as she was curled up up sleeping. He finally looked over to his parents and said "look, no eyes!".

Blame it on Jack.
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mexicoruss
I asked the guy what it was last week and he said without a smile but hilariously...."just something new for us to look at" I laughed out loud. I said it looks like a great place to have a free border concert, he smiled and told me to be on my way. Oh the fun you can have at the border.
GV Jack
Some of them do have a sense of humor. I asked one once if this is all there was to Lukeville and he said with a straight face,

"Sir, this is the new Scottsdale." Now I though that was funny.
mexicoruss
We could have a big concert there with Mexican American performers and call it "BorderFest" I am going to trademark that name!
mondone
Better chance boomer fest there than in Penasco. Taking all bets here!
Terry C
I can just see the BorderFest guys singing.... :blah:
jerry
OCV Puerto Peñasco – Boomer Fest Days about a month away...really getting excited!
mis2810
jerry said:
OCV Puerto Peñasco – Boomer Fest Days about a month away...really getting excited!
OMG, I would be so embarrassed if I was one of those people in that photo!
brokenwave
The info on that link shows the Boomer Fest was scheduled for May 1-5, 2013. The website has not been put online other than a page showing it is coming soon. Less than 8 weeks to the 9/27 weekend. Very optimistic attendance projected for the event 50-70,000 people. How is the concert site coming along, last time I was down in June, only some beach scraping was happening. How does anyone buy tickets for this event, I did a search with 0 places to buy tickets. Hummm. Not that I would want to attend.
dry heat
rumor has it that they pushed it out to June of 2014 (again). At this point they are going to have more issues with engine search results showing these posts when someone looks up 'boomerfest'
playaperro
It was ordered for Bummerfest!
tequilatodd
HAHA... All said was Post a pic..
FUNNY STUFF
AZRob
I wounder if they are going to put x-ray machines in there to look for money?
Roberto
AZRob said:
I wounder if they are going to put x-ray machines in there to look for money?


I actually offered to work there for free looking for money if I get a cut. They said NO! How rude.
AZRob
Roberto said:
I actually offered to work there for free looking for money if I get a cut. They said NO! How rude.


Free is to high for them. Need to start looking after they get across. LOL
Jellyfish
Twice now I have seen people being made to unload their truck and trailer so the agents could see what they had. I do not understand why they continue to bother us going in. And, why are we spending tax dollars on structures like these.
What if these poor people are again pulled over on the mx side and made to unload again?? It's none of their business if I choose to be stupid enough to bring a gun or ammo into mx. OK, I'll get off my soap box.
mis2810
Wait. . . they're doing what amounts to a secondary inspection on the US side LEAVING now? Is it random? Trucks with trailers only?
stingray
From the duty free store
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mis2810
stingray said:
From the duty free store


GET OUT!!!! That's huge! That's the lane to leave the US now?
stingray
Yes, it is huge. It takes up all the space between the fence and building. I only saw one inspection station installed so far...
Jellyfish
Both times it appeared to be a mex family who had been to yard sales. Truck and trailer loaded to the gills with mattresses and junk. Also, it appears to be only for the indepth inspections. Who knows what is next.
marybna
There is an article today in the paper about all the people coming up to buy things to take back to Mexico for flee markets. Here Tucson we see all the trucks going to Nogales really loaded up.
Jellyfish
I've read the artical and that is exactly what it looked like. I've not seen an american toy hauler being unloaded but will it be next??
mis2810
Why would they even spend the money to put something like that up?
mis2810
Jellyfish said:
I've read the artical and that is exactly what it looked like. I've not seen an american toy hauler being unloaded but will it be next??


What newspaper?
MIRAMAR
It was in the Arizona Daily Star:

Here's where Tucson's castoffs end up
Roberto
Albuquerque has several Goodwill stores and one large warehouse in an old KMart building. The stores often get so many donations that they cannot keep up or do not have enough room in the retail outlets. The warehouse has stuff piled into large plastic boxes, , like 4 ft by 4ft. You can purchase the entire contents of one of the boxes for virtually nothing. The warehouse is open only on certain days of the week and people are waiting in line on those days. Some specialize by category, like childrens stuff, etc. Visited with some of the buyers and some are local residents who are essentially buyers for relative's segundas in Mexico. It's a whole industry providing jobs and income as well as economical stuff for the segundas.
Roberto
The agencies of the officers staffing the stop get to keep some of the money confiscated I think, that's all I can think of. Also it's another excuse for the ICE folk to ask for more money. Anyone know if this type of exit inspection on the US side occurs at other crossing points?
wildtoucan
Sometime the usa stops you before canada border..mainly asking if you have more than $10,000
MIRAMAR
We go to Ontario from Buffalo all the time, and we've never been stopped on the US side
wildtoucan
Is going into bc from blaine, wa
Kenny
Roberto said:
Albuquerque has several Goodwill stores and one large warehouse in an old KMart building. The stores often get so many donations that they cannot keep up or do not have enough room in the retail outlets. The warehouse has stuff piled into large plastic boxes, , like 4 ft by 4ft. You can purchase the entire contents of one of the boxes for virtually nothing. The warehouse is open only on certain days of the week and people are waiting in line on those days. Some specialize by category, like childrens stuff, etc. Visited with some of the buyers and some are local residents who are essentially buyers for relative's segundas in Mexico. It's a whole industry providing jobs and income as well as economical stuff for the segundas.


There is also BIG agency in Albuquerque and without even sorting it they bail it up, put it in a 40 footer and sell it by the pound. I know this for a fact because I did volunteer work there. Band new stuff and a lot of it was being sold for the making of rags and such. If people knew where there donations were really going with some of these agency's, they'd stop giving.
stingray
IMG_1734.jpgIMG_1737.jpgThey had two lanes open Friday afternoon And yes, they had a gringo in a passenger car pulled over. They were unloading the car as we drove by...
wildtoucan
Is it mexican or Usa customs in the tent?
brokenwave
From the pic it is on the US side. That cost a ton, if it was on the Mexican side it would be much simpler and cost effective.
wildtoucan
Oh, yeah, i see that now. I had seen the booth and thought it must be mexico customs doing passports etc. So is basically the stop they had before by usa just "enhanced".
mis2810
wildtoucan said:
Is it mexican or Usa customs in the tent?


US, unfortunately.
Buffalo Marty
I live in Nogales AZ and cross the border every day- they have had informal 'outgoing' (leaving US to MEX) inspections for a few years, mainly asking people if they have any arms or more than $10k in cash. Also, they have been informally scanning Mexican national tourist visas, I imagine so they can track not just when a Mexico resident enters but ALSO to confirm if/when they have returned to Mexico.

Now in Nogales as well they erected a similar overhang structure in the downtown crossing similar to what is shown in Lukeville, and they are in process of constructing actual inspection booths at the secondary 'truck' crossing (booths similar to the 'incoming' revision)

I believe the end-game here is two-fold: (1) do the job that Mexico is unable/unwilling to do: crack down on the $$$ and arms that flow to Mexico in return for drugs, and (2) be able to track all persons as they exit the US in addition to when they enter (specifically foreign nationals) This is partly in response to the 'visa over-stayer' issue whereby someone legally obtains a visa, enters the US, and then never leaves.

This is obviously annoying/ frustrating/time-wasting, etc, but I don't see any way that it will be reversed...
jerry
Legalize all drugs and all fire arms in the US and Mexico.we are big boys and girls after all..

mds062778 said:
I live in Nogales AZ and cross the border every day- they have had informal 'outgoing' (leaving US to MEX) inspections for a few years, mainly asking people if they have any arms or more than $10k in cash. Also, they have been informally scanning Mexican national tourist visas, I imagine so they can track not just when a Mexico resident enters but ALSO to confirm if/when they have returned to Mexico.

Now in Nogales as well they erected a similar overhang structure in the downtown crossing similar to what is shown in Lukeville, and they are in process of constructing actual inspection booths at the secondary 'truck' crossing (booths similar to the 'incoming' revision)

I believe the end-game here is two-fold: (1) do the job that Mexico is unable/unwilling to do: crack down on the $$$ and arms that flow to Mexico in return for drugs, and (2) be able to track all persons as they exit the US in addition to when they enter (specifically foreign nationals) This is partly in response to the 'visa over-stayer' issue whereby someone legally obtains a visa, enters the US, and then never leaves.

This is obviously annoying/ frustrating/time-wasting, etc, but I don't see any way that it will be reversed...
mis2810
The informal inspection was annoying enough. Now, it's not only annoying, they've wasted a ton of money. Normally, they ask about the 10k and guns. Last Saturday no questions at all. Just recorded my plate number with the handheld computer.

mds062778 said:
I live in Nogales AZ and cross the border every day- they have had informal 'outgoing' (leaving US to MEX) inspections for a few years, mainly asking people if they have any arms or more than $10k in cash. Also, they have been informally scanning Mexican national tourist visas, I imagine so they can track not just when a Mexico resident enters but ALSO to confirm if/when they have returned to Mexico.

Now in Nogales as well they erected a similar overhang structure in the downtown crossing similar to what is shown in Lukeville, and they are in process of constructing actual inspection booths at the secondary 'truck' crossing (booths similar to the 'incoming' revision)

I believe the end-game here is two-fold: (1) do the job that Mexico is unable/unwilling to do: crack down on the $$$ and arms that flow to Mexico in return for drugs, and (2) be able to track all persons as they exit the US in addition to when they enter (specifically foreign nationals) This is partly in response to the 'visa over-stayer' issue whereby someone legally obtains a visa, enters the US, and then never leaves.

This is obviously annoying/ frustrating/time-wasting, etc, but I don't see any way that it will be reversed...
Roberto
jerry said:
Legalize all drugs and all fire arms in the US and Mexico.we are big boys and girls after all..


Commie, pinko, fascist ratfink.
GV Jack
Roberto said:
Commie, pinko, fascist ratfink.


And those are his good qualities....:jerry2:
jerry
[when you guys stomp on the burning bag of dog poop on your porch...think of me UOTE=GV Jack;78732]And those are his good qualities....:jerry2:[/QUOTE]
Mexico Joe
mis2810 said:
The informal inspection was annoying enough. Now, it's not only annoying, they've wasted a ton of money. Normally, they ask about the 10k and guns. Last Saturday no questions at all. Just recorded my plate number with the handheld computer.



Objection, hearsay. Sustained. Can you please give us a dollar figure? Facts only, generalizations aren't good for your health.
Roberto
Well the thing I saw was not cheap. Much less than a permanent bricks and mortar structure, but still a lot of money spent on a questionable government activity. I'm sure it was develped for military use and not intended to have a long lifespan. We used a higher end version when developing Indian Casinos in the 80's. Not real classy but slots up and running in 30 days and paid for itself in a couple of months !
brokenwave
The Govt. doesn't know how to do anything cheap. The $$'s just light up in the contractor's eyes when they see a govt. project like this one. Point in case the $600k houses (for each) they built in Ajo recently for the Border Patrol. And the $100-200K used trailers also bought there for the Border Patrol stationed there. Now we should ensure some decent housing as a perk for the job but really. Gosh they could have bought for houses for $60K avg. and spent $150K each to totally refurbish them. My point in the previous postings about Mexico doing something like this is still to the point. Not as nice but does the job, lasts awhile doesn't cost too much and most importantly it's really just a really high tech expensive shade structure. Stepping off my soapbox.
Terry C
Problem is the drawings were most likely so lax on information they are bid as shown, industry standard. That's when the GC goes for the change orders big time. That's the was it was in industrial and commercial building years ago. The structural engineer and the architect got payed for changing the drawings. Then they got owners rep's that took care of that kinda sorta. They made you set down and show your charges. Does the Govt do this?

I think I found myself a new job... Not!

In this fast paced world there is no time to do it right the first time.
MIRAMAR
US tent
mis2810
Coming back on Sunday morning at 10:30, only 2 out of 5 lanes open!
Roberto
brokenwave said:
Point in case the $600k houses (for each) they built in Ajo recently for the Border Patrol. And the $100-200K used trailers also bought there for the Border Patrol stationed there. .


Where did you come up with those amounts? Got a reference? Thanks.
playaperro
Roberto said:
Where did you come up with those amounts? Got a reference? Thanks.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/arizona/articles/20130811ajo-border-agent-housing.html
Landshark
Your tax dollars at work my friends. It's no wonder why we as a nation are broke. Idiots!
brokenwave
PlayaPerro posted the link, Thx, I was shocked by the $$ and it was on the front page of the AZ Republic a few weeks back. The delegation from AZ was up
asked about it and promised to investigate, nothing yet but they were on Vacation again. Not like many positive things happen when congress is in session anyway. LOL


playaperroEl Pirata

Where did you come up with those amounts? Got a reference? Thanks.
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http://www.azcentral.com/news/arizona/articles/20130811ajo-border-agent-housing.html