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Bad News Thread

Started by jerry · Nov 21, 2013 · 145 replies
Stuart
Roberto said:
It's like a smell.


The same smell that emanates from the tail-wagging end of my dog after eating a little too much turkey under the table last night. o_O
Roberto
GV Jack said:
I suppose I'll have to relinquish my post now that you're back. Oh well, I got one shot in. ;)


Yes and you did a terrific job with the jab !!!
jerry
Approach road blocks with caution and dome lights on at night
jerry
Sub said:
Long time no chat Jerry, looks like you have kept up intruding reality into the cheerleaders with their heads in the sand. They still don't get that until they stop spending American dollars in Mexico nothing will change.

Sub I am still a constant visitor to .Mexico,bring many friends down to Santo Tomas and help my builder buddy get people with a adventurous streak to build down in our area.Me and my buddies keep each other informed of any major problem or opportunity.I try to do that on the forum too.You should check out Tasmania on your next big trip.
Sub
jerry said:
Sub I am still a constant visitor to .Mexico,bring many friends down to Santo Tomas and help my builder buddy get people with a adventurous streak to build down in our area.Me and my buddies keep each other informed of any major problem or opportunity.I try to do that on the forum too.You should check out Tasmania on your next big trip.

New Zealand is on my list so perhaps I can head that way too. I was in the Solomons & Kiribati two years ago and hope to visit all the islands involved in WWII as I can.
jerry
Sub said:
New Zealand is on my list so perhaps I can head that way too. I was in the Solomons & Kiribati two years ago and hope to visit all the islands involved in WWII as I can.

No guns needed bro...you will feel naked...your Inlaws still tied up in the San Jorge title mess?
dirtsurfer
Jerry: FYI, I am headed to Torres Del Paine in Patagonia at the end of the year. I would love to see a few pics of Tasmania and hear about your experience there.
seagrace
Thank you for clarifying, Roberto.
Sub
jerry said:
No guns needed bro...you will feel naked...your Inlaws still tied up in the San Jorge title mess?


Yup they still "own" the worlds two most expensive RV parking spaces.
jerry
Because bad news does not respect borders...
http://www.frontenet.com/_blog/VIDEO-Colapsa-tramo-en-carretera-esceniA sinking 30 centimeters in the Tijuana-Ensenada Scenic Road became the crash of up to 40 meters along a 300 meter stretch of the 93 kilometer an injury attributable to the San Andreas fault, and it will take at least a year to be repaired.

The collapse began with a height of just 30 centimeters from the 26th of December, it became collapsed 40 meters, trapping several trailers cargo circulating at the time, also was cut off not only Ensenada but the rest Baja California because it is the federal highway reaches transpeninsular Cabo San Lucas after a journey of 711 thousand kilometers.

The collapse of the highway was recorded eight days of the earthquake of 4.6 degrees on the Richter scale had its epicenter in the area Camalú, 70 kilometers from Ensenada.

According to information from the Federal Police, the road was closed from 5:00 pm yesterday, and is estimated to remain closed for a year while appropriate repairs are made.

The mayor of Ensenada, Hirata Chico Gilberto considered "irresponsible Federal Roads and Bridges (Capufe), have allowed the transit by road, despite the obvious damage recorded from last Thursday night."

The general recommendation for drivers is driving on the free road Tijuana-Ensenada, because the quota is fully closed.

Meanwhile, the engineer Ramiro Martínez Medina, head of the works, explained that this is a slide that worsened in recent days by the earthquakes that made cracks in the pavement.

He added that by Capufe they are carrying out corresponding to the stabilization of the slope of the 92 +400 to km 93 +500 jobs.

The road is completely closed from north to south from La Fonda and south to north from the junction with the Tijuana-Ensenada free road towards Mission.

According to the mayor of Ensenada, road repair or construction of an alternate passage to another place to cross the mountains against Salsipuedes, it could take more than a year.

Federal Roads and Bridges yesterday urged members of the Tijuana-Ensenada highway, where a collapse of about 40 meters on the asphalt, to use alternate routes by closing traffic in both directions was recorded.

The recommendation of the authorities is that travelers need to travel from Tijuana to Ensenada, or vice versa, use the free road in the section between Mission and San Miguel.

The Secretary of Tourism of Baja California asked the public to take precautions, to respect the signs and indications of support staff who is working in the area of diversion in order to expedite the maximum circulation.


Excelsior



A sinking 30 centimeters in the Tijuana-Ensenada Scenic Road became the crash of up to 40 meters along a 300 meter stretch of the 93 kilometer an injury attributable to the San Andreas fault, and it will take at least a year to be repaired. The collapse began with a height of just 30 centimeters from the 26th of December, it became collapsed 40 meters, trapping several trailers cargo circulating at the time, also was cut off not only Ensenada but the rest Baja California because it is the federal highway reaches transpeninsular Cabo San Lucas after a journey of 711 thousand kilometers. The collapse of the highway was recorded eight days of the earthquake of 4.6 degrees on the Richter scale had its epicenter in the area Camalú, 70 kilometers from Ensenada. According to information from the Federal Police, the road was closed from 5:00 pm yesterday, and is estimated to remain closed for a year while appropriate repairs are made. The mayor of Ensenada, Hirata Chico Gilberto considered â irresponsible Federal Roads and Bridges (Capufe), have allowed the transit by road, despite the obvious damage recorded from last night juevesâ? . The general recommendation for drivers is driving on the free road Tijuana-Ensenada, because the quota is fully closed.Meanwhile, the engineer Ramiro Martínez Medina, head of the works, explained that this is a slide that worsened in recent days by the earthquakes that made cracks in the pavement. He added that by Capufe they are carrying out corresponding to the stabilization of the slope of the 92 +400 to km 93 +500 jobs. The road is completely closed from north to south from La Fonda and south to north from the junction with the Tijuana-Ensenada free road towards Mission. According to the mayor of Ensenada, road repair or construction of an alternate passage to another place to cross the mountains against Salsipuedes, it could take more than a year. Federal Roads and Bridges yesterday urged members of the Tijuana-Ensenada highway, where a collapse of about 40 meters on the asphalt, to use alternate routes by closing traffic in both directions was recorded. The recommendation of the authorities is that travelers need to travel from Tijuana to Ensenada, or vice versa, use the free road in the section between Mission and San Miguel.

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Stuart
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
The San Andreas Cartel strikes again!! ;)
Stuart
More info on the road collapse in Baja - w/pic. From a Vagabundos announcement.

La Misión Toll to San Miguel Toll Road Collapses
The main toll road between Tijuana and Ensenada has closed after a 300-yard section of highway collapsed Saturday. The damage happened about 10 miles north of Ensenada. The highway is closed from the La Misión toll to the San Miguel toll, forcing travelers to take the old non-toll road from La Misión to Ensenada, a alternate route of about 30 miles. You can also take Federal Road 3 if you are heading out from Tecate towards Ensenada, or use the old Ensenada - San Felipe road from Mexicali to Ensenada.
Please allow time for the detour so you will not be traveling after dark. A report back from any Member after traveling through the area on how long the detour takes would be appreciated.

There is no official word on how long the road will be closed.

road.jpg
mondone
http://www.azcentral.com/video/2990296812001
Sub
They used to have an unofficial event in Ensenada after the Lake Havasu Jetski World Finals called the Mexrager but they stopped a few years ago and moved it to Pismo due to cartel violence concerns and theft.
Estero
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20110209-mexicos-gun-supply-and-90-percent-myth
jerry
Stuart said:
More info on the road collapse in Baja - w/pic. From a Vagabundos announcement.

La Misión Toll to San Miguel Toll Road Collapses
The main toll road between Tijuana and Ensenada has closed after a 300-yard section of highway collapsed Saturday. The damage happened about 10 miles north of Ensenada. The highway is closed from the La Misión toll to the San Miguel toll, forcing travelers to take the old non-toll road from La Misión to Ensenada, a alternate route of about 30 miles. You can also take Federal Road 3 if you are heading out from Tecate towards Ensenada, or use the old Ensenada - San Felipe road from Mexicali to Ensenada.
Please allow time for the detour so you will not be traveling after dark. A report back from any Member after traveling through the area on how long the detour takes would be appreciated.

There is no official word on how long the road will be closed.

road.jpg

Stewart it does make you wonder if the same private sector engineers that signed off on this disaster also say the homeport is safe.
brokenwave
Wow, that is a beautiful view from the road. I am planning on doing that stretch this summer.
jerry
brokenwave said:
Wow, that is a beautiful view from the road. I am planning on doing that stretch this summer.

Where your life vest!
jerry
More bad news if you come from Nogales to the coast.A rolling gun battle just happened and 6 Sicarios were killed.The bigger news is the Feds have taken control of all the local police from the border at Sasabee to past Altar.The local police just cannot be trusted.
jerry
State of siege...picture if the local police in your county were taken over by the state...
Tubutama, Sonora January 09, 2013.-La diputada Karina Garcia Gutierrez, on behalf of the Congress of the State, took part in the installation of the single police command in that municipality and which will correspond to seven municipalities.
"Although it is not much to my liking, since this is no so much loss of Municipal autonomy as loss of proximity that has a municipal police, mostly in small municipalities, with the citizen in the everyday problems. I recognize that it requires a State of force that is trained, equipped and prepared to respond and face the kinds of organized crime, as well as the efforts of the Government to the above", the legislator externaba.
"I hope that they are met fully the goals and intent that this entails since I know that the State Executive has made major commitments and made a substantial investment that mostly come from federal funds, which raises the expectations of the concerned program and am pleased that after 3 years finally the inhabitants of these municipalities have presence and vigilance that give them a chance of more tranquility and security" After such regrettable events occurring from 2010 arising from terrible insecurity which hit this region of desert Altar", it added.
"In the same way, you can not leave out the current economic and social situation prevailing there;" It is the next step that long has had to be. Therefore, and as I have been so holding and letting know different authorities both at the State level as federal and have you externado again to the Governor in this event, the urgency that join efforts on both levels with a strategy, approach and such approach, involving the implementation of programmes and public policies through dependencies that correspond, so that is a real rescue of the economic and social life of these municipalities, also this region, peoples, are part and must be part of the progress of SONORA. We are all obliged,"concluded the Deputy Karina García.
InkaRoads
For those that need more translation:
"........as well as the efforts of the Government to the above", the legislator EXTERNABA"
"........as federal and have you EXTERNADO again to the Governor in this event"

Externar = to express or display

Now, you will be able to understand the whole article!!
jerry
This was a big deal in Sonora......picture say Highway 8 shut down,all police departments along a 100 mile stretch of it taken over by Obama and your trip blocked for hours on a toll road that ripped you off for 8 bucks for the privilege of being shot at.
playaperro
InkaRoads said:
For those that need more translation:
"........as well as the efforts of the Government to the above", the legislator EXTERNABA"
"........as federal and have you EXTERNADO again to the Governor in this event"

Externar = to express or display

Now, you will be able to understand the whole article!!

Welcome back Ed, Amigo could you please direct me to where this quote is made.....Your friendly Dreamer.....
InkaRoads
jerry said:
State of siege...picture if the local police in your county were taken over by the state...
Tubutama, Sonora January 09, 2013.-La diputada Karina Garcia Gutierrez, on behalf of the Congress of the State, took part in the installation of the single police command in that municipality and which will correspond to seven municipalities.
"Although it is not much to my liking, since this is no so much loss of Municipal autonomy as loss of proximity that has a municipal police, mostly in small municipalities, with the citizen in the everyday problems. I recognize that it requires a State of force that is trained, equipped and prepared to respond and face the kinds of organized crime, as well as the efforts of the Government to the above", the legislator externaba.
"I hope that they are met fully the goals and intent that this entails since I know that the State Executive has made major commitments and made a substantial investment that mostly come from federal funds, which raises the expectations of the concerned program and am pleased that after 3 years finally the inhabitants of these municipalities have presence and vigilance that give them a chance of more tranquility and security" After such regrettable events occurring from 2010 arising from terrible insecurity which hit this region of desert Altar", it added.
"In the same way, you can not leave out the current economic and social situation prevailing there;" It is the next step that long has had to be. Therefore, and as I have been so holding and letting know different authorities both at the State level as federal and have you externado again to the Governor in this event, the urgency that join efforts on both levels with a strategy, approach and such approach, involving the implementation of programmes and public policies through dependencies that correspond, so that is a real rescue of the economic and social life of these municipalities, also this region, peoples, are part and must be part of the progress of SONORA. We are all obliged,"concluded the Deputy Karina García.


Hope that helps Dawg, Jerry's post #120 on page 6!
Stuart
Nobody mentioning this? 7 bodies found outside Sonoyta... AR-15 shell casings found. Calling it an "ambush."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/nation/2014/03/21/mexico-border-drug-deaths/6705691/
audsley
It was mentioned in the Violence in Mexico forum.
jerry
I hear six were making less than 500 dollars for the 50 mile hike with 50 to 70 lbs. on their backs.it is like killing the janitor when you can't reach the Boss because hey,someone has to die.You would think a $250000 profit for the bloody night.They will be dead by the end of the year most likely.
Panamahat
jerry said:
All is good blah blah blah...except in the new Bad News Thread...funny no one has mentioned the rolling gun battle on the road to Sonoyta yet...but how about that harbor!

About a month ago I was driving along the old Ajo road that runs between Ajo and Tucson. A cop car whizzed past me, and just down the road there were several cop cars, and US border patrol guys pulled over, along with a black pickup truck. Beside the road there appeared to be a huge quantity of drugs in boxes stacked up on the roadside.
dry heat
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/arizona/2014/03/20/mexico-ambush-near-arizona-border/6677583/
Landshark
The water has been tested. Never a question if this was going to happen, only when. Now without question a response is necessary, a forceful message must be sent. So, here we go, the power struggle begins. Hope it only takes place in remote areas and is over soon.
jerry
on the road next to my ranch as the result on two groups fighting.The ranger and I drove up on the weed and turned it in...( I know I know) a real spooking moment happened during the incident....glad my buddy had a gun....

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dry heat
that nuts jerry. glad everything turned out ok for you guys. How close is your property to the border?
jerry
dry heat said:
that nuts jerry. glad everything turned out ok for you guys. How close is your property to the border?

20 miles or so but on a highly prized smuggling route..lucky us
AZRob
jerry said:
20 miles or so but on a highly prized smuggling route..lucky us

You could of had enough smoke to last a life time.
HILL BOY
AZRob said:
You could of had enough smoke to last a life time.

And you could take it to the Boomerfest and have lots of new friends. LOL
Stuart
jerry said:
20 miles or so but on a highly prized smuggling route..lucky us


Remind me to bring my Mossberg (00 buckshot) and Sig when I come to visit you, k? :D
With the smugglers and the killer javelina you have around, why don't YOU have a gun? Would hate to read a Krentz story about you while you're poking around on the ranch. (said VERY seriously)
Roberto
Hey Jer, how is that toll booth working out? The one where you hand out the maps of the best routes. Jeese Jer, keep your fool head down !!

According to my contacts there were 4 bales not 3. What did you guys do with the other one?



Stuart said:
Remind me to bring my Mossberg (00 buckshot))


I'd go with number 2 shot. Better pattern. OO has a little more oooph but is sort of small pattern with less shot.
Landshark
Can't beat em with firepower. Move to Santo Tomas where it's safe.
Roberto
http://www.greenfieldreporter.com/view/story/90b62b1a67ca4311a06190591583b90d/LT--Mexico-Border-Shooting
jerry
A guy told Joe and I last month it was a freelancer renting "pipeline" rights to the Belrans etc. that will cause the next outburst.Loco Locals
Mexico Joe
jerry said:
A guy told Joe and I last month it was a freelancer renting "pipeline" rights to the Belrans etc. that will cause the next outburst.Loco Locals



I found the, gutting kids for their organs in Caborca story very disturbing...
jerry
Mexico Joe said:
I found the, gutting kids for their organs in Caborca story very disturbing...

For some reason the Mexicans in that part of the world are really into the story.I think it is because a lot of the Ag. Harvest workers are Indio from Chipas etc. and those stories are big down there too. Who would want a Mexican guys liver or a "raised on pesticide,mercury laced chocolate and lard" mexican kids kidney anyways? if I was harvesting organs I would hunt near the Temple in Mesa....clean living central
jerry
SONOYTA BORDER...THE UNSTOPPABLE VIOLENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY OF SONOYTA...LOT OF MOVEMENT AUTHORITIES... A FEW MOMENTS AGO IS REPORTED A SHOOTOUT AT THE EXIT TO PUERTO PENASCO...ACCORDING TO US REPORT THE ARMY REMAINED STILL CAR AT THE HEIGHT OF THE CURVE WHERE THIS A BUSINESS SELLING GRAVEL SAND...APPARENTLY THERE WAS SHOOTING IF AS IS US REPORTED THAT THE PERSECUTION IS TURN A UNIT OF THE ARMY...RIGHT NOW ARE THREE TRUCKS KNOWN AS FAST OF THE ARMY IN THAT OUTPUT GAP TO PUERTO PENASCO...WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR...SONOYTA BORDER...(Translated badly ) Something is coming......
jerry
He used to work at Sams...nice guy.
FALLECE CONOCIDO JOVEN ATROPELLADO, VEHÍCULO HUYE

Por: Silvano GalIcia
PTO. PEÑASCO SON.

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Fallece known young knocked down, Vehicle Flee

By: silvano Galicia
PTO. Peñasco are.

Well, gee Tragedy which is living in the family of well - known young comes out of this city, which was arroyado by a vehicle that was moving for speeding and lack of caution, whose driver, then the atropellamiento, he ran away with direction unknown, Today is dead was identified as Julius Caesar cárdenas López, by 28 years of age, who just had egresado The Bachelor of laws at the Institute of Technology in this city, and that laboraba in Sam Club of this city.
According to the Bulletin information provided to the media in this city, the reminder of the accident was a 23, 52 hours, Street revolution, between floods Sinaloa and San Luis de la Colonia Lopez Portillo, for the inquiries carried out by officials of the police state and local councils and by the report done by players belonging to the PGJE, and by the version of witnesses presenciales by accident, it is said that the vehicle of the brand Nisan, line, juke in color blue No plaques movement - model 2012, whose driver was not identified, because he ran away from the place of the accident, travelling in the Middle East, a tide in street revolution, to go through the intersection with Avenue Sinaloa, due to the Lack of caution on the management, and the Searing speeding, invades lane of parking, impactando the rear of the vehicle of traction pedal to the brand Mongoose, Road, 20, in the colors black and white, led by Julius Caesar cárdenas López, by 28 years of age, who transitaba in the same direction, for the Sidewalk right ( the relevant to its circulation ) with the impact, the bicycle out here at the front impactándose against a vehicle parked in the mark Ford, line, Explorer, type vagoneta, Model, 2002, without a plate of movement, falling down the cyclist on the pavement, arribando to place an ambulance to red cross, who reported that the accidentado I did not sign vital.
How old you gave a warning to the guard of the office at ministerial level of this city, turning to the place of the accident, the lawyer Alan Raphael peaks Dominguez, owner of the authority of the public prosecutor's office of the jurisdiction of a common, who took note of the facts And, by faith, and once concluded its work used in these cases, ordered the transfer of the body of infortunado young, to the funerary parlor in turn, to the Federal Republic of law, and the subsequent delivery of your body to their families.
Subsequently, the vehicle was located in a state of abandonment in street revolution, between the Constitution and rail transport, in the same cologne Lopez Portillo, several blocks to get ahead of the place of the accident, until the moment of drawing up this information, the driver of the vehicle guilty of this accident has not been located.
dry heat
What I got out of the story...

A young man by the code name "atropellamiento", came out of a city, he was once on the 'Bachelor'. He wrote the bylaws for the school and he works at Sams Club. A revolution was taken place when he got into an accident. A flood was also going on. A players game was taken place between the policy and city council. A nissan 'juked' a few of the players. Then this vehicle traveled to the 'middle east (where another revolution is taken place). Management was not cautious (typical of management). A bicycle rider came into the scene who refused to sign vital documents. Then a lawyer who owns the public prosecutors office (that is a sweet setup I must say) came into play. Someone left their car and it appears that the same cologne is used by most of these guys. In the end the whole thing was a drawing.

Did I get most of it.


jerry said:
He used to work at Sams...nice guy.
FALLECE CONOCIDO JOVEN ATROPELLADO, VEHÍCULO HUYE

Por: Silvano GalIcia
PTO. PEÑASCO SON.

...

See More
Fallece known young knocked down, Vehicle Flee

By: silvano Galicia
PTO. Peñasco are.

Well, gee Tragedy which is living in the family of well - known young comes out of this city, which was arroyado by a vehicle that was moving for speeding and lack of caution, whose driver, then the atropellamiento, he ran away with direction unknown, Today is dead was identified as Julius Caesar cárdenas López, by 28 years of age, who just had egresado The Bachelor of laws at the Institute of Technology in this city, and that laboraba in Sam Club of this city.
According to the Bulletin information provided to the media in this city, the reminder of the accident was a 23, 52 hours, Street revolution, between floods Sinaloa and San Luis de la Colonia Lopez Portillo, for the inquiries carried out by officials of the police state and local councils and by the report done by players belonging to the PGJE, and by the version of witnesses presenciales by accident, it is said that the vehicle of the brand Nisan, line, juke in color blue No plaques movement - model 2012, whose driver was not identified, because he ran away from the place of the accident, travelling in the Middle East, a tide in street revolution, to go through the intersection with Avenue Sinaloa, due to the Lack of caution on the management, and the Searing speeding, invades lane of parking, impactando the rear of the vehicle of traction pedal to the brand Mongoose, Road, 20, in the colors black and white, led by Julius Caesar cárdenas López, by 28 years of age, who transitaba in the same direction, for the Sidewalk right ( the relevant to its circulation ) with the impact, the bicycle out here at the front impactándose against a vehicle parked in the mark Ford, line, Explorer, type vagoneta, Model, 2002, without a plate of movement, falling down the cyclist on the pavement, arribando to place an ambulance to red cross, who reported that the accidentado I did not sign vital.
How old you gave a warning to the guard of the office at ministerial level of this city, turning to the place of the accident, the lawyer Alan Raphael peaks Dominguez, owner of the authority of the public prosecutor's office of the jurisdiction of a common, who took note of the facts And, by faith, and once concluded its work used in these cases, ordered the transfer of the body of infortunado young, to the funerary parlor in turn, to the Federal Republic of law, and the subsequent delivery of your body to their families.
Subsequently, the vehicle was located in a state of abandonment in street revolution, between the Constitution and rail transport, in the same cologne Lopez Portillo, several blocks to get ahead of the place of the accident, until the moment of drawing up this information, the driver of the vehicle guilty of this accident has not been located.
jerry
Only thing not lost in translation was he was a good kid....