If you are a fan of Dwell style modernism this recently completed house was designed and built down here.The designer has a few other interesting versions worked out and charges a fair price for customizing for your lot.
My neighbor is finishing this garage with a raised studio apartment that looks out at the Sea.This would be a good idea for a fisherman (that wanted to be down in Lobos in a short 50 minute drive towing a boat) Gated,some nice lots available if someone wanted to build one.
NOT in LAGUNA SHORES RIGHT? LAGUNA SHORES RESORT , MICHAEL ROBERT KLINE is the owner. He went to Prison in New York for mail fraud .CONDOS doesnt have TITLES if you buy a fractional make sure that have TITLE first, because they used to make fraud selling condos with NOT TITLE.. DONT BUY ANYTHING FROM LAGUNA.He divorced because he was in JAIL for FRAUD. the divorce documents showing that Michael Kline has been ordered to pay child support all these years and has NOT. Yet it appears that he likes to show how generous Laguna shores is to people in Rocky Point at Christmas.......He likes to look good in front of people yet he doesn't take care of his own children..he was in jail in LOS CABOS SAN LUCAS for destroying enviromental desert reserve to build ROLLING HILLS states resort find him in the web. on pictures shows how faces are changed so that people do not recognize him. He was friends with the famous Jeffrey MacDonald: Jeffrey R. MacDonald 00131-177 Served time at FCI Sheridan from July 1991 to May 2003. Currently serving time at FCI Cumberland. U.S. Army medical officer and a member of the Special Forces Green Berets who was convicted in 1979 of killing his wife and two children. same time when michael was in prision. SEE the pics. What about wife fraud, He committed fraud to his WIFE selling a Scottsdale property for $500,000.00 DLLS. Do you trust in laguna shores? see this picssss..... I have never received a penny from Michael for the girls or myself. Any man that denies his own children is not an honorable man.
Michael is not the big shot he thinks he is.....He is not powerful or wealthy. He only tries to look like he is. He has proven that he has a very mean and vindictive side. I was very happy when the judge here in Arizona stated that Michael is not an honest man! The authorities here know what he is like and that is helpful
He wants to be liked in Mexico as he cannot live in the United States. He is fearful of any Mexican officially complaining about him.
He even tried to leave us homeless and without a car etc....Monster Michael indeed.
monster michael. please keep passing the information
laguna shores resort de puerto peñasco es un fraude , cuidado con comprar una membresia porque el dueño de laguna shores michael kline estuvo en la carcel de nueva york por fraude, tambien le hizo fraude a su esposa en arizona y aparte no paga manutencion de sus hijos en arizona , tambien estuvo en la carcel en los cabos san lucas por destruir parte de la reserva ecologica para construir otro hotel ROLLIN HILLS , buscalo en internet con su nombre MICHAEL ROBERT KLINE. y mira las fotos si usted no cree . pasala a otras personas para que no les cometan fraude...Los condominios NO tienen TITULOS de PROPIEDAD que te los muestren todos....
I am just starting to research lots/beach frontage that might be affordable, and even with an existing low end structure with the idea of building a contemporary home. I love dwell, and don't know just how ultra modern you can go down there for a reasonable cost, but I'd love to get in touch with the designer if you can share his info. Thanks
I am just starting to research lots/beach frontage that might be affordable, and even with an existing low end structure with the idea of building a contemporary home. I love dwell, and don't know just how ultra modern you can go down there for a reasonable cost, but I'd love to get in touch with the designer if you can share his info. Thanks
Jerry, what is the rough estimate per sq ft for the building? Is it built on site? Similar to what I am looking at except on a ridiculous lot premium in Penasco ;)
Using materials the Mexicans understand is important. My next house in Mex will be contemporary and will be poured in place concrete and iron I-Beams with a curved corrugated metal roof. I put 48" doors in my current Miramar house and absolutely love being able to get furniture, a refrigerator or my fat ass through without having to turn sideways.
For me, I will always start design with the most important room in the house, the garage, the size, orientation and accommodations in my garage are most important, maybe a 2500 sq. ft garage and a 1600 sq ft. house :)
Phil, the Spring 2014 issue of Dwell has an ultra contemporary house on the cover that I work on and manage, you might get some ideas there.
Using materials the Mexicans understand is important. My next house in Mex will be contemporary and will be poured in place concrete and iron I-Beams with a curved corrugated metal roof. I put 48" doors in my current Miramar house and absolutely love being able to get furniture, a refrigerator or my fat ass through without having to turn sideways.
For me, I will always start design with the most important room in the house, the garage, the size, orientation and accommodations in my garage are most important, maybe a 2500 sq. ft garage and a 1600 sq ft. house :)
Phil, the Spring 2014 issue of Dwell has an ultra contemporary house on the cover that I work on and manage, you might get some ideas there.
Looking into a company that builds tilt up concrete cold storage buildings for the farmers on the coast....a combination of site built and prefab is the idea as we have the equipment to pull it off here...
In a lot of contemporary buildings the materials you build with are left exposed. The tendency is to leave your steel, concrete, stone, rammed earth ...........walls exposed on most of the surfaces. This requires much better craftsmen to put your project together because paint, drywall and stucco may not be used to cover mistakes or sloppy work. Some contemporary houses will combine the exposed look with some drywall and painted surfaces. My dream is to build a space ship looking place on top of a dune in Santo Tomas ( looking down on Jerry).
The masonry job on my house in Miramar was so bad I was thankful for stucco to try to hold it all together.........
In a lot of contemporary buildings the materials you build with are left exposed. The tendency is to leave your steel, concrete, stone, rammed earth ...........walls exposed on most of the surfaces. This requires much better craftsmen to put your project together because paint, drywall and stucco may not be used to cover mistakes or sloppy work. Some contemporary houses will combine the exposed look with some drywall and painted surfaces. My dream is to build a space ship looking place on top of a dune in Santo Tomas ( looking down on Jerry).
The masonry job on my house in Miramar was so bad I was thankful for stucco to try to hold it all together.........
It would have to be a space ship to "look down" on Jerry's place.
I looked at these blocks and I don't see any thing to lock the blocks together. Without some sort of tongue and groove, it would be difficult to fill with concrete without having a blowout.
That product looks interesting, if I was building new I would look into it. My houses were built 20 years ago using block and stucco.
I did have them add some Styrofoam pellets, but don't know how well they filled the walls when it was done.
When we retire and start spending 4-6 months a year in Cholla, I will probably put 2" foam on the outside of my place and re-stucco. Not that expensive.
Already have dual pane windows and R-23 ceiling insulation and R-6 foam on the roof.
Should help keep the CFE bills under control.
That product looks interesting, if I was building new I would look into it. My houses were built 20 years ago using block and stucco.
I did have them add some Styrofoam pellets, but don't know how well they filled the walls when it was done.
When we retire and start spending 4-6 months a year in Cholla, I will probably put 2" foam on the outside of my place and re-stucco. Not that expensive.
Already have dual pane windows and R-23 ceiling insulation and R-6 foam on the roof.
Should help keep the CFE bills under control.
Say you can pay CFE with Xoom from the state if it is not passed due date
The big problem is that you can easily insulate floors, walls and roofs but your windows will be a weak spot for energy transference as compared to your walls.
The big problem is that you can easily insulate floors, walls and roofs but your windows will be a weak spot for energy transference as compared to your walls.
Windows properly sited can be a net gain of heat for sure. Passive solar is one of the most neglected energy savers ever.
I have done the solar hot water but unless you use the hot water during the day, you still are bring cold water into your water heater and have to heat it. I prefer a tankless water heater.
It might be defective, but a newly installed gas water heater at my casita heats enough with just the pilot light to have one shower in the morning !! Not a real hot one but comfortable.
Thats good to know. Does it matter if the water is filtered or is it the minerals in the water?
Mineral build up...you follow the maintenance schedule and ok but things have problems when they set...On my Rinnea I had a wasp nest form in the fan ..the hard mud stopped everything......on another related matter people with houses at the seven year mark are seeing a lot plumbing under sink valve failures....mexican junk parts.....
I bring all my plumbing supplies from the states. In fact I bring almost all my building supplies from the states except concrete. Who knew sch 40 ABS is different in Mexico, much thinner.
Any system with water requires maintenance due to the minerals in the water, aging of the parts........I once read about a solar hot water system that trickled hot water it made all day over a large tank of river rock which served as a "hot water battery" for night or when the sun was not shining.
There are solar hot water evacuated tube systems that can generate extremely hot water that drives steam turbines to make electricity. With 300 degree water it seems that you could store it and use it as it cooled through the night.
Yes on those water shut off valves that are the cheap zink alloy. The water dissolves them over a time. Get a solid brass one. Used to accuse the maids of knocking them off when cleaning till we examined some carefully. Nothing like going into a flooded house when no one has been there. Summers the mold takes over fast.
Mineral build up...you follow the maintenance schedule and ok but things have problems when they set...On my Rinnea I had a wasp nest form in the fan ..the hard mud stopped everything......on another related matter people with houses at the seven year mark are seeing a lot plumbing under sink valve failures....mexican junk parts.....
Jerry,
I wonder when Doug and his partners will open up an RV park? There's cash money to be made if he can provide water, sewer + electric.
Las Dunas is B E A U tiful!
It'sjust not a place for our RV yet, and that's our rolling vacation home.
Any system with water requires maintenance due to the minerals in the water, aging of the parts........I once read about a solar hot water system that trickled hot water it made all day over a large tank of river rock which served as a "hot water battery" for night or when the sun was not shining.
There are solar hot water evacuated tube systems that can generate extremely hot water that drives steam turbines to make electricity. With 300 degree water it seems that you could store it and use it as it cooled through the night.
Yes on those water shut off valves that are the cheap zink alloy. The water dissolves them over a time. Get a solid brass one. Used to accuse the maids of knocking them off when cleaning till we examined some carefully. Nothing like going into a flooded house when no one has been there. Summers the mold takes over fast.
I've had plumbing leaks over the years that would have been a disaster if I wouldn't have been at home. As a precaution I installed a brass 1/4 turn ball valve on the main water supply line to the house. When we leave for vacation I turn off the water to the house. The irrigation supply line is upstream so it still functions as scheduled. Good piece of mind.
I've had plumbing leaks over the years that would have been a disaster if I wouldn't have been at home. As a precaution I installed a brass 1/4 turn ball valve on the main water supply line to the house. When we leave for vacation I turn off the water to the house. The irrigation supply line is upstream so it still functions as scheduled. Good piece of mind.
That is absolutely good advice. Unplug your pump as well if you have one cause if there is a leak the pump will empty the tank, overheat and burn itself out. I've seen that enough times too.
That is absolutely good advice. Unplug your pump as well if you have one cause if there is a leak the pump will empty the tank, overheat and burn itself out. I've seen that enough times too.
After that happened to our pump we installed a floating safety switch in our tank. When full it floats to the top, as the water level drops to an almost empty level it hangs down enough to interrupt the power to the pump.
Another reason we installed the water main ball valve was a friend in Heber had a mobile home that had a water leak when they were gone for several months. They wondered why they had a water bill when they hadn't been there but didn't think it through. Went there at one point for a vacation and found the inside wet and mold everywhere. They were afraid to even walk inside. Called the insurance company, they checked it out and ruled it was a total loss. Hauled it to the scrap yard.
I always have my Bella advertised for rent on craigslist. This morning I got another request asking if I wanted to sell. That is the 2nd time this month. Is the market finally starting to turn around?
Hello everyone. Newbie here. Spent a lot of time in RP between 2000 & 2004 while at ASU. Might have the opportunity to spend some significant time there in thee near future.
Love this discussion. I'm a GC in the US. Was wondering. What kind of zonning laws, building codes exist in RP? If I buy a piece of land, who's to tell me what I can or cannot build on it? Appreciate the insight!
Take everything you do in the US to build a house and apply in RP and then add 3-5 months for completion above US build times. You might be better off to buy a house already built and get the lay of the land first.
Who tells you would be an HOA if one is there.
Take everything you do in the US to build a house and apply in RP and then add 3-5 months for completion above US build times. You might be better off to buy a house already built and get the lay of the land first.
Who tells you would be an HOA if one is there.
I would recommend building out of rastra. We love the R-value and how it's held up during tremors- no cracks
I agree...Perform wall has held up great.A few years later the guys at Santo Tomas tried to go cheap and went with block with stucco with a inch of foam insulation in between.A bad idea in earth quake area and flat roofs...Cracks on parapet have caused mold problems that are not easily fixed.
Do swamp coolers work in Rocky Point or is the humidity from the Ocean too much for them? Is AC a must if you are looking to spend the summers? How reliable is the electrical grid?
Humidity is too high. Get mini splits. I don't know about the grid because we're just here on weekends but it worked always then. We also have solar for when we're not running ac.
Are interior walls typically block? Finished with plaster?
Is there any wood framing that occurs? Rafters maybe?
What material is typically used for flat roofs?
Block is usually used for all walls, interior and exterior. I have seen some interior walls done with steel 2x4.
Some houses are using 2" of foam with stucco on the outside of the block to give it some insulation.
Wood isn't used as much as in the past for rafters, most times it is a foam truss set-up with concrete and spray foam applied on top.
There are termites in Penasco. Mini Splits are the way to go for A/C and Heat.
Here is an interesting video on doing a brick dome Coupla on you tube, it's 26 minutes but just fast forward through it to see the progress.
I have seen 2 of these done in person and they go up pretty quickly. Amazing what a trowel, brick, mortar and skill can do.
Boveda ceilings are so cool. They are Mexican artwork that makes a basic room into a thing of beauty. The dome of the heavens...
Long before most visitors to central Mexico know the name or the benefits of the area's familiar brick roof systems, they fall instantly, firmly in love with bóveda, the beautiful arched natural brick ceilings of the system. The first question from newcomers is always the same, "How do they do that?"
Bóveda is the Spanish word for an arch. It is also the word in Mexican and ancient Spanish architecture and construction, for a long, narrow section of arched brickwork. Sometimes the Spanish language seems amazingly limited in vocabulary. The dome of the heavens is called a bóveda—it's like the inside of a bowl. The arched ceiling cupped over the altar in old churches, the vault that is built to enclose a casket at the cemetery, and even the barrel-shaped ceiling over a hallway are also all called bóveda.
Bóveda is also the correct term for the 36" rows of brick arches that form the ceilings of many area homes. Each of these styles serves a unique purpose and is constructed a bit differently, but all are based on the ancient theory of the arch. The Romans proved the strength of arches to the rest of the world when they built the aqueducts. Once an arch is put under pressure or is bearing weight, it becomes even stronger. The success of bóveda depends on this same basic rule of physics.
Is this true? Last time we were down, we heard that even if there is the money to finish a unfinished project or house, that it can't be completed. Because it has been exposed to the elements too long, it would have to be torn down and started all over. We have a house at the Villages that was never started.
Many years ago when all of us were buying condo down there and things started to go south, I went to a couple of meetings in PHX and Penasco. Some buyers had retained attorneys to see if they could recover anything. I could not believe how many condo some people had purchased. There are probably people on the site that were at some of those meetings. We had lawyers from Mexico and PHX and basically we had no recourse. The money was not held to build my house but went into the pot and was used to finish someone else house. And basically we had no ability to go after that money when they sold or to put a lien on the house. I know there were people there that had purchased in Phase III at Las Palomas and The Harbor and the other one across from it. It was my understanding, that many of builders of those project saw the writing on the wall and realized they would not sell enough to complete the projects so they took the money and ran. You would have thought we would have all learned this lesson from San Carlos. Make you wonder about the new resort going in down South. I found out much later that my last check was cashed in Mexico City and not deposited in a bank.
Are interior walls typically block? Finished with plaster?
Is there any wood framing that occurs? Rafters maybe?
What material is typically used for flat roofs?
Thanks for all your insight!
The only material to build out of in Rocky Point is ICF (insulated concrete forms) No Wood, CMU ( concrete masonry units) are what is mostly used but inferior to ICF. CMU lets moisture thru the wall and corrodes the rebar.
Check it out at http://www.foxblocks.com/
We used Performwall and it is holding up nicely.A few other houses that used CMU block with a outside sheathing of thin insulation then stuccoed have had big mold problems.The earthquake also really effected homes that used CMUs on the Parapets...they vibrated at a slightly different rate and cracking occurred...followed by rain then mold....people fix stuff like this then hide it and who would know....until the next event or mold comes back.
My neighbor is finishing this garage with a raised studio apartment that looks out at the Sea.This would be a good idea for a fisherman (that wanted to be down in Lobos in a short 50 minute drive towing a boat) Gated,some nice lots available if someone wanted to build one.
