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Inshore over the reef tips.

Started by Hillbeartoe · Dec 12, 2014 · 36 replies
Hillbeartoe
I had a lot of success the last time I was down fishing from shore. However about 1 in 5 hook ups the fish locked into the reef and I would loose my rig.
Aside from swimming out to retrieve the fish and or rig what tips do you have for this scenario?
I was considering floating a bobber through the surf but didnt want to look like a child fishing at the local park. Lol.
Hillbeartoe
Awww come on now. You all telling me you have no tips for fishing over the reefs or are you afraid to admit you have used bobbers too? :rolleyes:
Mexico Joe
Where are you fishing? What rigs are you using currently that are getting hung up?
Kelney
I was getting rocked up for the first time from shore on my last outing. Once rocked up, I gave the fish some slack and gave it a minute. Then I take up the slack yank the rod high and stark cranking. Worked every time for me. I only swim out to save a lure.
Hillbeartoe
I have fished various spots from where the old Aquarium was, in front of Playa Del Oro down to the old boat launch closest to Manny's . And also directly behind Comp hill down from sandy beach.
I guess it would be called a drop loop surf rig. Weight at the bottom with either 1 or 2 hooks drop looped roughly 2 feet from weight.
Hillbeartoe
Kelney said:
I was getting rocked up for the first time from shore on my last outing. Once rocked up, I gave the fish some slack and gave it a minute. Then I take up the slack yank the rod high and stark cranking. Worked every time for me. I only swim out to save a lure.



That worked a couple time for me too.
jmcdtucson
You can fish a shallow running crankbait like a Rapala. That's what I do. Bait runs about 6-8 ft., water is 10-15 ft so no hangups. You'll need one that will cast far - maybe an X-Rap.
Jungle Jim
Try this Hill Bear...........

If you are using bait like shrimp, squid, snails, limpets, canned corn or peas, etc. on drop looped hooks with a weight on the bottom, it's almost always the weight that gets hung up on the rocks, not the fish. Try using a "sacrificial" weight like old lug nuts, bolts or whatever it takes to sling the bait out to the fish zone. Use a length of lightweight mono from the weight to the end of your drop loop. As soon as you get some action and you think that you are "rocked" just give your rig a swift stroke and the weight will break off and then it's just you and the fish. Another trick that Trigger's really don't like is to do some "strummin" on your line. As soon as you think the Trigger has locked himself under a rock, pull your rod up tight and strum on your line a few times then drop the rod and let all of the tension off. I think that the Trigger thinks that the line has snapped and then he comes out of his hidey-hole a free fish. The instant you feel any action, yank the little shit off the bottom and reel him in like crazy. I usually strum them the theme from "JAWS" and I think it really scares the crap out of them! Especially since Triggers are the favorite food of Reef Sharks.

As for using floating bobbers, they do work depending on the conditions. I used bobbers to haul in shit loads of tasty little surf perch off of the wave swept rocks at Laguna Beach back in the 60's and yes, I was a kid then.

JJ
Kenny
Jungle Jim said:
Try this Hill Bear...........
As for using floating bobbers, they do work depending on the conditions. I used bobbers to haul in shit loads of tasty little surf perch off of the wave swept rocks at Laguna Beach back in the 60's and yes, I was a kid then.
JJ

Used to fish and free dive (Hawaiian sling) off the rocks on both side's of Crescent bay in Laguna in the 60's and early 70's... We had a lot of fun diving off of shit rock too, until the kicked us off.
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Hillbeartoe
Cool, thanks for the tips folks. We are hoping to be back down in February. This next time down I dont care what anyone else is doing.
I need fishes. Lol.
Jungle Jim
Used to park my V-Dub Bus up there and haul my longboard down to the beach with a mask, snorkel and a mesh laundry bag in hand.

I'd paddle out to those rocks and in short order have a bag full of Spiny Lobsters. I'd take em back up to the bus, whip out my Coleman stove and have a feast right there on the street.

No one ever surfed or free dived with a wetsuit in those days. Guess we need to blame it all on Global Warming since now days no one in their right mind would get in that 50 to 60 degree water without a wetsuit.

JJ
Hillbeartoe
Jungle Jim said:
Used to park my V-Dub Bus up there and haul my longboard down to the beach with a mask, snorkel and a mesh laundry bag in hand.

I'd paddle out to those rocks and in short order have a bag full of Spiny Lobsters. I'd take em back up to the bus, whip out my Coleman stove and have a feast right there on the street.

No one ever surfed or free dived with a wetsuit in those days. Guess we need to blame it all on Global Warming since now days no one in their right mind would get in that 50 to 60 degree water without a wetsuit.

JJ


I wish I wasn't so afraid of diving. I mean I love the water and everything about whats in it.
You have done some things I would love to do, just bust out right there on the beach. Very cool.
ckyevanjay
I have lost 100s of weights bottom fishing from the shore (drop shot style rig). I ended up switching from the pyramid sinker to a round flat sinker which gets hung up way less since it does not have any pointy edges that can get hung up on. If you are losing lures thats a different story but I seem to have become good at getting them back when i do get hung up. Even if i lose them I wait for the tide to go out and go on a manhunt for it hoping it didnt get buried or swept away.

I have been rocked up a few times from the shore or while fishing waist deep in the water and it has always been bigger rock bass. I just move/walk left to right and give them slack every now and then and try to get them to make the first move out of the rocks. Those are the few times i have caught legitimate sized rock bass. If a fish rocks me up from the shore its time to get excited!
PintoPoint
I have used spark plugs for weights for surf fishing for many years. They are cheap. I just close the spark gap and add a swivel.
Wood Spinner
Yes to all of the above. I am using the torpedo sinkers either drop shot or mid line with a 3 ft leader. I buy the torpedos with loops on each end. With each end you can remove a leader and replace the sinker in just a few seconds. Loop the sinker to the leader and then use a clip on the line to atach the sinker. I seldom loose anytrhing.
I believe that it is the sinker that gets rocked up.
asprinkles
So that's why I see so many spark plugs while I"m snorkeling. and I thought the car rusted away and left the spark plugs behind. In lobos if you go out by the light house and snorkel you will see hundreds of spark plugs. someone is changing out a lot of plugs
Hillbeartoe
ckyevanjay said:
I have lost 100s of weights bottom fishing from the shore (drop shot style rig). I ended up switching from the pyramid sinker to a round flat sinker which gets hung up way less since it does not have any pointy edges that can get hung up on. If you are losing lures thats a different story but I seem to have become good at getting them back when i do get hung up. Even if i lose them I wait for the tide to go out and go on a manhunt for it hoping it didnt get buried or swept away.

I have been rocked up a few times from the shore or while fishing waist deep in the water and it has always been bigger rock bass. I just move/walk left to right and give them slack every now and then and try to get them to make the first move out of the rocks. Those are the few times i have caught legitimate sized rock bass. If a fish rocks me up from the shore its time to get excited!


Yeah I always go back and look for traces of my line or weights or anything once the tide is out. You would figure using glowing yellow fluorocarbon you would see a trace of it or something.
Lots of good ideas for the next trip down.
Ty all for sharing your tips and experience.
Mexico Joe
asprinkles said:
So that's why I see so many spark plugs while I"m snorkeling. and I thought the car rusted away and left the spark plugs behind. In lobos if you go out by the light house and snorkel you will see hundreds of spark plugs. someone is changing out a lot of plugs



I don't know that I could snorkle right around the lighthouse Leigh. That water was so clear last year that it almost spooked me out a little. You could see every peak and valley beneath and I'm sure there are some BIG whatevers hiding down there... Not sure why I was so paranoid while I was out there... maybe it was all that weed I was smoking???? Well, VAPING I mean.
mis2810
Mexico Joe said:
I don't know that I could snorkle right around the lighthouse Leigh. That water was so clear last year that it almost spooked me out a little. You could see every peak and valley beneath and I'm sure there are some BIG whatevers hiding down there... Not sure why I was so paranoid while I was out there... maybe it was all that weed I was smoking???? Well, VAPING I mean.

That sounds fantastic. The part about the water being clear and seeing every peak and valley. I need to get down there when the water warms up again!
asprinkles
yeah sometimes it almost looks like there is no water, it is so still and clear
Mexico Joe
mis2810 said:
That sounds fantastic. The part about the water being clear and seeing every peak and valley. I need to get down there when the water warms up again!



You could see 30 feet. It was the first time using my fish finder on the kayak which was pretty cool because I could literally look down at what I was seeing on the screen. If the water had been murky or if it had been windy those two days I would have seen it on the fish finder but not necessarily seen it. Two different things. Trust me, it was spooky. Out there a half mile by yourself and when it got late day into dusk and I was seeing fish swimming under me and shadows and.... monsters in the closet. Seriously though... pry the weed. LMFAO
asprinkles
too funny
Hillbeartoe
It makes me, how you say... Paranoy..
jerry
This video of the real estate scam called Liberty cove shows the Rocky coast just north of Libertad.I am planning on camping,shore,inflatable trip for end of March early April....anyone interested?
asprinkles
maybe. getting my back taken care of and just might be ready for a trip Leigh
Mexico Joe
COUNT ME IN!!! About to land a new job! MONEY MONEY MONEY = SANTO TOMAS + LOBOS
DRDTbone
jerry said:
This video of the real estate scam called Liberty cove shows the Rocky coast just north of Libertad.I am planning on camping,shore,inflatable trip for end of March early April....anyone interested?


Possibly, area workable by kayak? Any chance those rocks hold roosters :) (probably a little early on the year for them to be so far north, but one can dream right?)?
Kenny
A nice Leopard Grouper around those rocks is a big possibility, Snapper too.
jerry
Kenny is right from what the Caborca guys told me...this could be fun if the weather isn't shit.
Mexico Joe
DRDTbone said:
Possibly, area workable by kayak? Any chance those rocks hold roosters :) (probably a little early on the year for them to be so far north, but one can dream right?)?



YELLOWTAIL FOR SURE
jerry
image.jpg This is down there...photo from a Mexican fishing forum
Mexico Joe
Life is happening for THE KID and the pieces of the puzzle are coming together nicely. After landing a new job THE KID has his sights set on LOBOS for another go around. This time THE KID will be prepared as he has done much reading and has a new found knowledge and understanding of what it takes to land the big dawgs. THE KID is eyeing a window in the somewhat near future, possibly first or second week of March. THE KID would like as many avid and non avid fishermen alike to join in on the beer swigging fun and line dropping in LOBOS. THE KID will show no fear and there will be no barrier too big, for THE KID will prosper. THE KID ESTA SONANDO DE LOBOS!!!!
Kenny
Mexico Joe said:
Life is happening for THE KID and the pieces of the puzzle are coming together nicely. After landing a new job THE KID has his sights set on LOBOS for another go around. This time THE KID will be prepared as he has done much reading and has a new found knowledge and understanding of what it takes to land the big dawgs. THE KID is eyeing a window in the somewhat near future, possibly first or second week of March. THE KID would like as many avid and non avid fishermen alike to join in on the beer swigging fun and line dropping in LOBOS. THE KID will show no fear and there will be no barrier too big, for THE KID will prosper. THE KID ESTA SONANDO DE LOBOS!!!!


There ya go!... Now visualize visualize...That along with perseverance is what makes a good fisherman. Or, positive vibes man, positive vibes.

Vitality shows in not only the ability to persist but the ability to start over. ~F. Scott Fitzgerald
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asprinkles
wish I could, In March I have to spray 1000 olive trees. Soon though
Mexico Joe
Leigh, I might need to pitch a tent on the patio... we'll see though. Maybe I can stave off the urge to go with a little weekend trip to Cholla Bay. I hear slay bells ringing, Christmas came late
asprinkles
not a problem. would be nice for someone to go down and see if I still have a place and there isn't a family living in the house ,
Kenny
Jungle Jim said:
Used to park my V-Dub Bus up there and haul my longboard down to the beach with a mask, snorkel and a mesh laundry bag in hand.

I'd paddle out to those rocks and in short order have a bag full of Spiny Lobsters. I'd take em back up to the bus, whip out my Coleman stove and have a feast right there on the street.

No one ever surfed or free dived with a wetsuit in those days. Guess we need to blame it all on Global Warming since now days no one in their right mind would get in that 50 to 60 degree water without a wetsuit.

JJ

Oh and the story our great JJ told about Crescent Bay is crap...That's my old stomping grounds and only one way down to Crescent Bay and that's down some stairs in a crowded neighborhood with limited parking. The beach to the north is private but you could get to it if you climbed over the bottom of the cliffs during a very low tide. Off that point is what you see in the picture below. It's called Seal Rock (we called it shit rock). Yep, Laguna's little bird Island... To the South is Emerald bay and you had to weave through private property, even in 64, to get there as well. Above the point is where the picture below was taken and a climb down was usually only tried by and with very limited success, drunks! All boards were long boards in 64, though some life guards used true long boards in the 50's. Mine was a 9'6" Hobie, and it would be worth a mint today.image
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