He is most definitely a liar. I don't have the time right now to go back thru the threads or even this thread and cite examples, but there are plenty of them. One example is calling me a drunk and saying I threw a Corona at a drone. Where and why does he come up with this stuff? All I'm asking is that he keep it respectful, no need to keep bashing people. IMHO, the reason Jerry keeps getting away with this stuff is because of the few members like you that always back him up. I totally respect people with other opinions than mine and even welcome them, but the point I'm making is please keep it respectful.
I think he probably got his post's mixed up but hey, what's the big deal?... Our new know it all was talking about me drinking while posting yesterday and I didn't even respond because my friends know I haven't had a drink in damn near 15 years. It's just another one of those things that makes him (probably a her) so damn funny. For me I'm going to enjoy him/her while I can because a blow hard like that has no staying power; they'll be gone soon.
Thanks Jose Az. Never knew you could do that. For the last few months was so annoyed by Jerry's posts and I just "ignored" him and now all his postings are gone off my screen. Now I'm happy too!
Big deal for more than a few of us down your way starting next weekend James. Check it out before you block me too..LOL http://www.cocopahspeedway.com/
So yeah anyway........bad blood - name calling - whatever - oh yeah sprint races - so close on the thread subject...........no biggie. After all that has happened to us this year (wedding - death) I really don't have to much time to be judgy. I simply don't care that much. You are who you are and you ain't what you ain't, who cares? (Thank you John Prine)
So instead of listening to a friend of a friend who hates Peñasco ( I don't really have any) I went to the block making facility today on my way back from a project in La Cholla. Arturo (chief of security) kindly explained to me that the company building the Port Blocks is a specialty company from Monterrey, Nuevo Leon, Mex. They have built ports pretty much everywhere in Mexico and around the globe. They know what they are doing.
Management is from Monterrey several dozen from what I gathered. However 60 + people working on this project are from Peñasco. I asked bluntly....."are they being paid a dignified wage?" His reply was quick....yes! after a probationary period their wage is set according to their work ethics. If they are found lacking they are cut loose.
So far they have produced 300-350 large building blocks, and another 600-800 decorative blocks - the center will be filled with the blastings from Black Mountain. The blocks are constructed to allow water to flow freely from one side of the jetty to the other.
From what I see ( i have been labeled a booster whatever that means, sounds bad but I like being positive) it looks like a great project with direct benefit to the people here in Peñasco. That's the construction side. The other side, the business side, I don't pretend to know who the players are. I have heard that these new ships will be brand new cruisers - flagged in Mexico and small - like 1500 passengers. If they are smart they will do what they can to make this whole multi million dollar project work. The whole thing can be built and the whole thing can fall apart in the interim with jackasses who want everything their way.....We don't know that right now. What we have is a successful project being done beyond first world standards in a ( dare I say it) second world theater with naysayers at the helms, hoping for disaster, which I for one do not perceive.
here are a few shots from today - December 24 2014.
So the new building will house - Quality control- Tax authority - Pier management, all in the same building and all on-site. It is cool to see this happening.
But it's all about respecting each others' opinions, which I believe Jerry does not. With that said, I love our condo on Sandy Beach and our resort. Jerry and a few others seem to think we have some ulterior motive. They just can't believe that we are happy with our lives and excited about the homeport.
Jeez. I promised I was not gonna dignify the bull that has been banging around, but here I go. Oh, BTW, Feliz Navidad !!
Seems to me that the Jerry bashing started with a couple of relatively new nubies, maybe trolls. Jerry has his own opinions but you all seem to think when he expresses them he is referring to YOU and or that you need to correct his perceptions. In other words you do not respect his opinions.
And now you've got mis2810 all stirred up, I can hear her sloshing her acid bottle.
Yes, I suggest you malcontents go and press the IGNORE and then we won't have to listen to your drivel.
And , yep, I'm a card carryin friend of Jerry and Kenny and a couple of other loose cannons here. Y'all know who you are, I don't want someone questioning your sexuality if I identify you so I'll leave it at that. I'll let everyone know when the next Rumble is and we'll see who of you has the courage to show up.
Merry Christmas to All and To All a Good Riddance er... Good Night :):):p:p
I respect divergent opinions. It was that JWT that put me over the edge. Buh, bye :)
Merry Christmas to all
Roberto said:
Jeez. I promised I was not gonna dignify the bull that has been banging around, but here I go. Oh, BTW, Feliz Navidad !!
Seems to me that the Jerry bashing started with a couple of relatively new nubies, maybe trolls. Jerry has his own opinions but you all seem to think when he expresses them he is referring to YOU and or that you need to correct his perceptions. In other words you do not respect his opinions.
And now you've got mis2810 all stirred up, I can hear her sloshing her acid bottle.
Yes, I suggest you malcontents go and press the IGNORE and then we won't have to listen to your drivel.
And , yep, I'm a card carryin friend of Jerry and Kenny and a couple of other loose cannons here. Y'all know who you are, I don't want someone questioning your sexuality if I identify you so I'll leave it at that. I'll let everyone know when the next Rumble is and we'll see who of you has the courage to show up.
Merry Christmas to All and To All a Good Riddance er... Good Night :):):p:p
Well said! I'm hoping Santa brings me a fresh bottle of acid!
Note these same three were bashing Rosie over and over while she was trying to get things figured out. I like hearing the info Russ but wonder what type of company can fire workers on the spot in Mexico? It does not go that way unless you run scab crews...A minimum wage of 30 dollars a day would be a good start to make things right.
Note these same three were bashing Rosie over and over while she was trying to get things figured out. I like hearing the info Russ but wonder what type of company can fire workers on the spot in Mexico? It does not go that way unless you run scab crews...A minimum wage of 30 dollars a day would be a good start to make things right.
Great, you talk like you know anything about it....I doubt (I know you don't) you do. Thanks for playing. I don't really have a care about your politics or world view, your civic view is seriously diminished in my humble opinion. It is what it is and it is not what it is not. I see what I see (first hand) and report the same. You want to play the negative game? post the report that has the proof (first hand) or shut up. Period - If you have something to say I will digress and acquiesce to you when you show the proof...otherwise, I call BS......thanks again for your input.
I will post things from a positive real point of view. I have no need for trying to tear things down. I have had that done to me this year and I wont abide. I have no fear of the truth about things I have already done that and it doesn't work out. it is what it is. You like negative, discount me, you like good things......take a look! I may be wrong but I am not dark!
Jerry - I am not attacking you, but you fancy yourself as an author of all things related to Rocky Point. You are not!. I am here to tell you , you are not. Your negative one sided post do nothing but discredit your obvious love for this place, this culture, this lifestyle. It is time for a change. It is what it is. it is time for a change!
Roberto, I previously posted "Thanks Jose Az. Never knew you could do that. For the last few months was so annoyed by Jerry's posts and I just "ignored" him and now all his postings are gone off my screen. Now I'm happy too!". Am I a newbie, I guess, I've been participating in the forum for about 6 months, but what does that have anything to do with it? So you're only permitted to express your opinions on this forum if you're some old-timer whose been on the forum for 5 years? Last I checked this was a public forum open to anyone's opinions, regardless of how long they've been a member. If you guys don't want new people to participate then perhaps you should close this forum to only yourselves. My main, and only point, is that I know Jerry is your friend and I respect that, but over the last few months personally I got tired of Jerry constantly expressing his opinions about everything on this forum, seems like he's a one-upper about everything. I don't have problems with anyone else, and so what did I do, hit the "ignore" button on him and now I don't have to worry about it. And if you guys don't like my opinions, well, then you're free to hit the "ignore" button on me too, perhaps you should do that to everyone who's new on the forum and expresses an opinion you don't agree with? About a month ago someone posted "I used to participate in RP forum but then after awhile it was just the same 4 or 5 guys constantly posting their opinions about everything on it trying to get the most "likes" and I quit going to the forum". To be honest, that's kinda the direction I'm heading too.
Hope you have a great time at Cocopah Speedway Kenny.
Great, you talk like you know anything about it....I doubt (I know you don't) you do. Thanks for playing. I don't really have a care about your politics or world view, your civic view is seriously diminished in my humble opinion. It is what it is and it is not what it is not. I see what I see (first hand) and report the same. You want to play the negative game? post the report that has the proof (first hand) or shut up. Period - If you have something to say I will digress and acquiesce to you when you show the proof...otherwise, I call BS......thanks again for your input.
I will post things from a positive real point of view. I have no need for trying to tear things down. I have had that done to me this year and I wont abide. I have no fear of the truth about things I have already done that and it doesn't work out. it is what it is. You like negative, discount me, you like good things......take a look! I may be wrong but I am not dark!
Jerry - I am not attacking you, but you fancy yourself as an author of all things related to Rocky Point. You are not!. I am here to tell you , you are not. Your negative one sided post do nothing but discredit your obvious love for this place, this culture, this lifestyle. It is time for a change. It is what it is. it is time for a change!
Egg nog must be spiked.....why are you so mad?It is a legit question.If you have ever had Mexicans working for you legally you would know it is an expensive endeavor to lay them off.I think that system needs to change in the employers favor in exchange for way higher wages.When I need a extra hand around the Casa As an individual I pay 10 bucks an hour.....I can afford it...
Hope you have a great time at Cocopah Speedway Kenny.
Feliz Navida and Feliz Ano Nuevo a todo!
Thanks James but I probably won't be making it down for those show's as I'm pretty much a non-wing traditional Sprint Car snob. I'll be down when the USAC/CRA boy's are in town though and by the way, the tribe has done a
tremendous amount of work on that track and the facilities and if you like racing at all you should check it out.
Is a whole new breakwater project being started with these new blocks Russ or are they just going to add onto the existing structure and if so, do you know how they will be applied?
Well hope it fails and saves the Sea but can live with whatever happens.....one last point...whoever has been threatening me with physical violence might want to walk that back...no worries we all make mistakes......oh,say hello to my friends.
I believe most intelligent people would agree that the comprehension of an occasional tourist to a city will be much different than that of a person who has actually lived in the community, even as little as 1 year. The tourist on vacation, usually on a weekend in "pleasant weather" months, has no way to ever learn the day to day atmosphere and ambiance, regardless of how many years he has been doing the tourist thing, or regardless of how long he/she has been living in the same country, but well away from the real community. 40 years a tourist do not a resident make. These PP vacationers cannot learn anything about the actual community other than that of the hotel room rental, RV park, bar, hangover, strip club, restaurant and tourist fish-market scene. He/she cannot be expected to ever learn about the innumerable things a resident will learn....property ownership, property renting, notaries, contractors who speak no English, communications and internet, paying utilities and taxes, police relations, security of one's property and body, neighbor relations, charity work, stray animal welfare, special foods for special occasions, seasonal produce, bank accounts, etc, etc. Any resident can add dozens more at will. Tourists cannot learn and know things like this, which are the reality. I suggest a few of the very vociferous "authorities" on this blog are tourists and know little of which they negatively rant and bloviate. These vociferous folks might learn real truths about PP if they listened to the many resident folks posting here who know much of which they speak....both positive and negative. They might then become assets to this forum. We will welcome them !
Regarding my comment about newbies. I have just noticed over the past 10 years or so I've been on this and the previous forum that while of course new people are always welcome, there is a tendency that the newer folk tend to be the least tolerent of others. They lack the perspective that grows with time. Those of us long termers recognize ourselves and others as occasional goofballs and enjoy each other, even if we do not completely agree. Yes use the ignore feature if your outrage grows out of control. It will be like eating french fries without salt.
I believe most intelligent people would agree that the comprehension of an occasional tourist to a city will be much different than that of a person who has actually lived in the community, even as little as 1 year. The tourist on vacation, usually on a weekend in "pleasant weather" months, has no way to ever learn the day to day atmosphere and ambiance, regardless of how many years he has been doing the tourist thing, or regardless of how long he/she has been living in the same country, but well away from the real community. 40 years a tourist do not a resident make. These PP vacationers cannot learn anything about the actual community other than that of the hotel room rental, RV park, bar, hangover, strip club, restaurant and tourist fish-market scene. He/she cannot be expected to ever learn about the innumerable things a resident will learn....property ownership, property renting, notaries, contractors who speak no English, communications and internet, paying utilities and taxes, police relations, security of one's property and body, neighbor relations, charity work, stray animal welfare, special foods for special occasions, seasonal produce, bank accounts, etc, etc. Any resident can add dozens more at will. Tourists cannot learn and know things like this, which are the reality. I suggest a few of the very vociferous "authorities" on this blog are tourists and know little of which they negatively rant and bloviate. These vociferous folks might learn real truths about PP if they listened to the many resident folks posting here who know much of which they speak....both positive and negative. They might then become assets to this forum. We will welcome them !
Very good evaluation of the two, being here 80% of the time I can relate , 20%j in Az for special events and holidays ,doctors, family affairs. We have learned a lot above the normal visitor/tourist . House insurance,getting a claim , what happens after a car accident, our rights, paying taxes, federal zones etc.
Regarding my comment about newbies. I have just noticed over the past 10 years or so I've been on this and the previous forum that while of course new people are always welcome, there is a tendency that the newer folk tend to be the least tolerent of others. They lack the perspective that grows with time. Those of us long termers recognize ourselves and others as occasional goofballs and enjoy each other, even if we do not completely agree. Yes use the ignore feature if your outrage grows out of control. It will be like eating french fries without salt.
"Like eating French fries without salt". That's pretty funny, well put Roberto. Overall this forum has been a good find, get a lot of good tips on fishing, insurance, local politics and happenings, etc. Hope you all had a good Christmas, and have a safe Happy New Year!
Having some Thick Skin is a must on most forums, other than the ugly personal attacks on some people that has occurred here,
this forum is fine. :)
Having a range going from Russ to Jerry is a great barometer of things going on here. IMO, They both deserve air time!
Happy Holidays!! To All.
I will be in Cholla Manana till Monday for some Astrophotography and drink a couple of frosty Pacificos. :):)
The night sky and stars should be awesome. :)
Well I will be giving the" suck up to the powers that be" side a break for a while..feel free to keep building your Potemkin Village. Headed out to sea with a Euro camera crew ,a Seri Indian,a kid goat ( Don't ask) on a little adventure..thanks to the forum for allowing these guys to find me! Headed near this place..check out video of our last trip with Ted...
. Somebody pee in the pool at a Pigeon Coop for me...and Happy
Having some Thick Skin is a must on most forums, other than the ugly personal attacks on some people that has occurred here,
this forum is fine. :) Having a range going from Russ to Jerry is a great barometer of things going on here. IMO, They both deserve air time! Happy Holidays!! To All. I will be in Cholla Manana till Monday for some Astrophotography and drink a couple of frosty Pacificos. :):)
The night sky and stars should be awesome. :)
Agree, brokenwave. And despite whether the port is doomed to failure / misery, or destined for prosperity for all, I appreciate the updates, Russ.
Some of these people are hilarious!!!! People talking about how they understand this is a public forum where one shares opinions and facts but in the same paragraph talks about censoring Jerry's comments. WTF?! When you censor and hide someone's comments on here it no longer becomes a public forum. You are essentially creating a news feed for yourself that only includes like minded thought. REAL INTELLECTUAL OF YOU. lmfao Love that critical thinking that you display. These RPT TROLLS talking about, hey maybe you should try getting out and exploring Rocky Point, maybe rent or buy a kayak or try fishing... WTF?! Where do these trolls get this sh!t? One of these TROLLS is Happy. Sorry Happy. The other TROLLS are hilarious though. I value the information that RUSS puts on this forum. I would not have known about the building of the sea blocks or have seen pictures. There are many other contributions from RUSS that I value. There are times that I do not agree with RUSS. I do not have to like RUSS, I do not have to agree with RUSS, I DO NOT NEED TO CENSOR RUSS. I simply read what I want or keep TROLLING, much like many of our newest members who never contribute anything worthwhile only their disdain for Jerry. When someone like Jerry gives his opinion it is from critically thinking. In order to be a critical thinker one must question, one must be CRITICAL. The difference between critical thinkers like Jerry and you is that you perceive being critical as NEGATIVE whereas we view it as our obligation. Our opinions don't change what is happening. It is merely for discussion. What happens will happen. We are not at fault to be critical of the project and as always this is public forum where we share our opinions, thank you.
Us folks who live here want to encourage new folks to settle here. We want to share our real-life experiences to make your transition easier. We have nothing to sell you. We have no agenda except to help you understand the pros and cons of living in Mexico, and learn quickly. We live in Las Conchas, well off the beach. But, we can drink our tap water !
We still have no idea if Jerry is a female or male. Our older neighbor lady across the street spells her name "Jerry", and my cousin in Texas spells his name as "Gerry". Who knows ? For now Jerry has to be "it".
I suggest you can learn more about Rocky Point than reading the drivel from Jerry. It has never lived here. It has an agenda to harm everything PP.
Mexican Joe: what you are not realizing here is Jerry is a long distance sniper. Jerry has never lived in PP. It spends some weekends in Mexico but many miles away, where it need not educate itself about anything actually going on in PP. Jerry, from a distance, downgrades things it does not know. It promotes itself as an expert on every forum regarding PP. It is all knowing; it is the final say of everything Rocky Point. This person claims to be an authority on everything ! The fact is Jerry knows squat about Mexico....knows naught of value about this part of the world. Jerry is a person of straw on anything Rocky Point....lots of fluff but no substance. Jerry has never revealed its credentials, experience or education. In my observation, Jerry is a wanna-be alpha person, unfortunately not equipped for a role that requires informed opinions . Jerry has constantly beat up normal intelligent bloggers, who actually know something about RP-PP, with its belligerent attitude of knowing everything. It has attracted some constant likkers like kenny from out of country towns who feed his "wisdom" . Jerry (and his minions) is a bully and of no value to understanding PP.
If you want honest and reasoned information about RP, ask someone who is intelligent and who knows from real experience. You will spot these folks by their intelligent posts. Ask folks if they are PPRES
I believe this forum is for Rocky Point folks. "Rocky Point Talks" seems to imply the talkers should have some real connection to RP.
We are looking for helpful info about moving to, or actually living in PP. As I recall you live in a small place in Northern Az. What can you tell the Rocky Point Talk folks that will assist?
Do you have any questions, or anything intelligent to add, without Jerry?
Hearing something meaningful from you, all on your own, would be welcome.
I believe this forum is for Rocky Point folks. "Rocky Point Talks" seems to imply the talkers should have some real connection to RP.
We are looking for helpful info about moving to, or actually living in PP. As I recall you live in a small place in Northern Az. What can you tell the Rocky Point Talk folks that will assist?
Do you have any questions, or anything intelligent to add, without Jerry?
Hearing something meaningful from you, all on your own, would be welcome.
Your post about how you found loose lug nuts at a local place after telling them to finger tighten them first while mounting your tires, just about covered it all for me. Say, did it ever cross your mind that they found you so obnoxious like you are on here, that they did it on purpose?:D
Us folks who live here want to encourage new folks to settle here. We want to share our real-life experiences to make your transition easier. We have nothing to sell you. We have no agenda except to help you understand the pros and cons of living in Mexico, and learn quickly. We live in Las Conchas, well off the beach. But, we can drink our tap water !
We still have no idea if Jerry is a female or male. Our older neighbor lady across the street spells her name "Jerry", and my cousin in Texas spells his name as "Gerry". Who knows ? For now Jerry has to be "it".
I suggest you can learn more about Rocky Point than reading the drivel from Jerry. It has never lived here. It has an agenda to harm everything PP.
Mexican Joe: what you are not realizing here is Jerry is a long distance sniper. Jerry has never lived in PP. It spends some weekends in Mexico but many miles away, where it need not educate itself about anything actually going on in PP. Jerry, from a distance, downgrades things it does not know. It promotes itself as an expert on every forum regarding PP. It is all knowing; it is the final say of everything Rocky Point. This person claims to be an authority on everything ! The fact is Jerry knows squat about Mexico....knows naught of value about this part of the world. Jerry is a person of straw on anything Rocky Point....lots of fluff but no substance. Jerry has never revealed its credentials, experience or education. In my observation, Jerry is a wanna-be alpha person, unfortunately not equipped for a role that requires informed opinions . Jerry has constantly beat up normal intelligent bloggers, who actually know something about RP-PP, with its belligerent attitude of knowing everything. It has attracted some constant likkers like kenny from out of country towns who feed his "wisdom" . Jerry (and his minions) is a bully and of no value to understanding PP.
If you want honest and reasoned information about RP, ask someone who is intelligent and who knows from real experience. You will spot these folks by their intelligent posts. Ask folks if they are PPRES
This absolutely has to be HAPPY! I've only heard stupid crap like this from TWO other people on this forum, MIKEHEADINTHESAND and Eric "Palm Trees". Just for sh!ts and giggles in case this isn't Happy, I'm feeling frisky tonight. Let me make this really easy for you JWT. I'm going to respond directly to selected references from your previous post. I will number these responses and the number will coincide with the original reference in it's original order. I hope this has not confused you because it seems you are having a tough enough time as it is. Let's get started the alcohol and marijuana is wearing off...
1. Jerry shares real life experiences through personal experience and second hand information. Jerry is credible. End point.
2. Jerry has absolutely no agenda other than the well being of the Sea of Cortez and the citizens of Mexico. Jerry gives us the news as he reads it from Sonoran news agencies, even the CONS.
3. You suggest or you believe? I'm confused but you do that to me. I have learned a lot about Rocky Point from many different sources and Jerry is included.
4. "The fact is Jerry knows squat about Mexico...". You're either HAPPY or a MORON.
5. I have spent time with him and I can attest to this. I left the toilet seat up one time and he reamed me into a new one.
6. Yes, Kenny. One of the other 50 year vets of Rocky Point/Mexico. You know, one of the other top 10 credible persons on this forum.
7. "The Corvinas"
8. You mean: Jerry, Kenny, Roberto, Stuart, Melissa, LadyJeeper, Russ, BrokenWave, The southbeachers, Terry C, DOG, Miramar, The Ricks, Estero, Robert Moore, D McCauly fUUUUck EVERYONE BUT YOU AND APRICOT THE FRUIT!
Please respond. I haven't been to banned camp in quite some time. Please. I have been waiting for a while.
Thing is, whoever it is who tried to hijack this thread has gone in for the kill. They're taking the bait. I, on the other hand, look forward to the next Home Port update . . .
JWT, the nonsense you post is an embarrassment to this forum, to yourself, and more importantly to the real residents of RP. The part that really bothers me is you say you are a permanent resident (PPRES...lol) and imply that you represent the good people of RP. The reality is the real residents of RP are respectful people that would never act the way you do. You are an embarrassment to them and show them nothing but total disrespect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Oh brother....Hookers,pickpockets, van drivers,real estate scammers and kidnappers will love this thing...not sure which of these professions our three mystery posters engage in but no doubt some form of number two...JWT...maybe 1...
No one should be insulted about anything that I said at all. No names were called and no sides were taken. I think that I said the situation was very complex. Anything that could help Puerto Peñasco I am all for as long as it helps the people there.I am just not as optimistic as some others might be.
No one can truly know how it will pan out. Nothing said here will make or break the deal or even affect whether or not the project comes to fruition.
Me not calling it Rocky Point is not an insult, but I will tell you when I say I am going to Rocky point up here in Mesa, not in the hills, when people hear that name nothing but bad comes into their minds. Cartels, corrupt police, shoot outs, drugs, booze and people basically acting like animals for the weekend. You have no idea how much promotion I do to get people I come into contact with to get over their fears of going down.
When I say Puerto Peñasco they say, where is that! And then I paint a very different mental picture to them than what they see on TV and read about online lumping PP in with the rest of Mexico. I instantly show them pictures on my phone that look much different than they expect.
I didn't bash or trash any ones personal opinion and my personal opinion was not out of control or unreasonable.
No one should have to be fighting over anything I wrote, or treating me as if I insulted anyone. I appreciate Puerto Peñasco more than you give me credit for and am concerned that it might not all work out as well as some others think it might, very simple.
I am trying not to really let this bother me but, I behave, respect and treat that area better than most that go down there and use it as a weekend toilet no matter how often I am there or whether or not I own property down there. The fact that someone owns down there doesn't mean that they're opinion holds more weight than anyone else that appreciates Puerto Peñasco.
This should end now, it was made a bigger deal than it should have been by far.
One thing you need to understand, in this forum, no matter how often or seldom you visit PP/RP you get to be bashed once!!!! sometimes "once" could mean in one thread or in several and "once" could last one day or one month and "once" could be your label good or bad and .............get the drift??? as long as you stand for what you believe in none of the bullshit spoken, typed here, means caca!! como dirian en Mexico y si no lo dicen lo digo yo: orale batos a gozar la vida y los que son tightwads y no les gusta lo que viene o va entonces tienen la vida jodida!!!
PPRES (for 2.5 yrs)..............contractors who speak no English.............
am sorry but last I knew spanish is spoken in Mexico!!!!! or has it changed????? man I got away from this forum for way too long!!!!! ~~~HAPPY~~~ should let loose in some of these old timers!!!!!! AQF
This is all I have to say, Viva Peñasco!!! enjoy it for what it is or just leave it alone, there are miles and miles of shore line to be discover, not everything has to happen in Rocky Point!!! and PLEASE get out more into the neighborhoods and get to know the REAL people of Puerto Peñasco, el Malecon is just a tourist street, does not represent Peñasco for WHAT it really is!!!
Here in Mexico (I say here as I am home for a few more hours before I go back to the dark side, USA) if you fired an employee, government or not, better get ready to pay a lot!!!! IT IS THE LAW, if you don't then all you are doing is paying under the table, if that is the case then I DO agree with Jerry $10/hr should be perfect to give a good living for a mexican worker and family in Mexico.
AND for goodness sake El Mar de Cortes is the aquarium of the world!!!!!!!! stop throwing your garbage away and let it fill your home then I'll accept your opinion about nothing is wrong with bringing cruise ships to the sea of Cortes!!!!!!IMHO
I still have an accent in my typing so for that, I thank you!!!!!
This is all I have to say, Viva Peñasco!!! enjoy it for what it is or just leave it alone, there are miles and miles of shore line to be discover, not everything has to happen in Rocky Point!!! and PLEASE get out more into the neighborhoods and get to know the REAL people of Puerto Peñasco, el Malecon is just a tourist street, does not represent Peñasco for WHAT it really is!!!
Here in Mexico (I say here as I am home for a few more hours before I go back to the dark side, USA) if you fired an employee, government or not, better get ready to pay a lot!!!! IT IS THE LAW, if you don't then all you are doing is paying under the table, if that is the case then I DO agree with Jerry $10/hr should be perfect to give a good living for a mexican worker and family in Mexico.
AND for goodness sake El Mar de Cortes is the aquarium of the world!!!!!!!! stop throwing your garbage away and let it fill your home then I'll accept your opinion about nothing is wrong with bringing cruise ships to the sea of Cortes!!!!!!IMHO
I still have an accent in my typing so for that, I thank you!!!!!
I don't agree with Jerry and his 10 bucks an hour, you have to do most work with a bid, once its done they're gone. Like they say by the hour they paint with a brush and by the bid they paint with a roller.
Most of us who hire Mexican folks on a regular basis agree many should be paid more. One problem is there is no licensing or accreditation/rating system, so the bad cleaning lady, or the bad contractor just off the top of the train from Tijuana , or whatever, often gets the same pay as those who are diligent, or who have their own tools or basic materials/supplies, etc, and do quality work. Referrals from other clients are highly recommended.
I see post 112 says it pays 10.00 per hour. While I agree some qualified workers are worth more than they are paid, anyone suggesting Mexicans have a concept of hourly pay is misleading foreigners about this aspect of real Mexico. It does not happen ! Plus, if 112 is indiscriminately paying 10.00 per hour it will out as a tourist, high on the list for the next robbery and "housecleaning" !
Latin America, South America ( except Chili ) and most of southern Europe has no concept of hourly pay. No worker, from the cleaning lady, to the painter, to the block layer, to the Attorney, to the Notary will ever respond if you ask how much per hour they charge. If they work for you over a lengthy period, they think of being paid every 5.5 days ending Saturday noon. If you have a contractor ( non employee ) doing a lengthy job he should have given an upfront price for labor for the entire job. He also will expect pay every Saturday noon. The contractor will never include materials in his quote, usually because it's too much work for him to figure it out. The Attorney or Notary will quote an all-in fee, including expenses. Even with the legal people, there is no concept of an hourly charge.
If you are hiring a house sitter, security guard, driver of your car, landscaper, etc, their expectations of pay are on a "per day " basis.
Prepare yourself for this: you ask the new cleaning lady, or landscaper, or other occasional worker the price for the job. They will usually just shrug, and tell you to pay whatever you think is best. Here comes the dilemma: if you pay too little, watch out for recriminations. If you pay too much, watch out for everyone they know at your door offering something. This is another example where asking for referrals is wise. GOOD.
If you take on a contractor for a big renovation, or a rebuild or new construction, there are a few other very important tax/social security/ Hacienda issues to consider. Some members of this forum, who actually call PP home, will be good sources for reliable info about these things. If your contractor does not pay these during the construction, you can expect a bill from the Feds up to 2 years later. BAD.
I hope this might assist aspiring new residents in settling here. It's a great place to hang out provided you adjust to new ways of doing things, and get good advice from people who actually know.
(Thank Russ for the update; so glad to know they are letting the tide through the Pier. Now the Pier has a chance to survive.
Yes Home Pier; not sure why they keep calling it "Home Port" but everyone acts like it is a "Destination Port".
I think it will be destined to be a great pier; a nice walking pier with food kiosks at its sides; especially if they go out 500 yards. Great for fishing!
Great for embarking and disembarking day fishing trips, Bird Island trips and Great day trips to san Felipe!
Or three day trips around the sea of Cortez, especially the East side of Baja. Can not wait. (300-400) It will be a boom for San Felipe not RP.
In my opinion; a real Home port has to cater to many from far; Mid West; Canada; etc. Getting to Rocky Point is still not easy. The expense of flying in would double the cost and have to compete with the Cruises to the Cayman Islands,
Why would any one go through Phoenix and Drive 8X6 hours coming and going; to reach a home port. The expense and more important "TIME" involved in an excursion of the Sea of Cortez is a luxury that this location does not afford travelers. The expense of time 2 days reaching Sandy Beach and at least one going home makes it a very expensive trip that competing with Long Beach will be a huge obstacle. Goin on a Cruise you want to be on the Ship and start sipping and tasting ASAP. Walking through "El Malecon would not be a priority" Catering to the retired affluent is not a good business plan. Could you attract a Honeymooner from Chicago?
yes there will be locals (Americans) that see it as great outing but after one trip they are done. Been there done that.
Locals? Yes needs to focus on local travelers; but with travel, (Ship fair and extra's the fair is a loss leader; most money a ship income comes from Drinks; Gambling; extra trips and tips for service aboard, and most important; sales of things; memorabilia of the trip) is there enough Puerto Pengasqegnos, Hermosillenses, and Caborquingos that can afford this luxery? Needing 1500/trip every week is a lofty goal.
I for one was ready to reach home asap after 5-7 days of gorging and merriment; and staying at a home port was very low on things to do.
Getting home with in 4-6 hours is a must.
This is the best description/analysis of the situation that I have EVER read.
(Thank Russ for the update; so glad to know they are letting the tide through the Pier. Now the Pier has a chance to survive.
Yes Home Pier; not sure why they keep calling it "Home Port" but everyone acts like it is a "Destination Port".
I think it will be destined to be a great pier; a nice walking pier with food kiosks at its sides; especially if they go out 500 yards. Great for fishing!
Great for embarking and disembarking day fishing trips, Bird Island trips and Great day trips to san Felipe!
Or three day trips around the sea of Cortez, especially the East side of Baja. Can not wait. (300-400) It will be a boom for San Felipe not RP.
In my opinion; a real Home port has to cater to many from far; Mid West; Canada; etc. Getting to Rocky Point is still not easy. The expense of flying in would double the cost and have to compete with the Cruises to the Cayman Islands,
Why would any one go through Phoenix and Drive 8X6 hours coming and going; to reach a home port. The expense and more important "TIME" involved in an excursion of the Sea of Cortez is a luxury that this location does not afford travelers. The expense of time 2 days reaching Sandy Beach and at least one going home makes it a very expensive trip that competing with Long Beach will be a huge obstacle. Goin on a Cruise you want to be on the Ship and start sipping and tasting ASAP. Walking through "El Malecon would not be a priority" Catering to the retired affluent is not a good business plan. Could you attract a Honeymooner from Chicago?
yes there will be locals (Americans) that see it as great outing but after one trip they are done. Been there done that.
Locals? Yes needs to focus on local travelers; but with travel, (Ship fair and extra's the fair is a loss leader; most money a ship income comes from Drinks; Gambling; extra trips and tips for service aboard, and most important; sales of things; memorabilia of the trip) is there enough Puerto Pengasqegnos, Hermosillenses, and Caborquingos that can afford this luxury?
I for one was ready to reach home asap after 5-7 days of gorging and merriment; and staying at a home port was very low on things to do.
Getting home with in 4-6 hours is a must.
This is an example of critical thinking. Thank you.
Think I said this before but here goes, again. I think the way it will be marketed in the US will be to retirees and middle class folk mainly in Phoenix and Tucson. The cruise will be wrapped in an all inclusive package, bus trip from AZ, off the bus onto the boat. Boat makes the trip and returns. People get off the boat directly onto the return bus back to AZ. Easy peasy fall off a log, take a cruise on the Sea of Cortes, no muss no fuss, no driving, no border worries, no air fare. The casinos in NJ picked up people withing a radius of a couple of hours drive to the casinos. Lots of retired people used it as a day trip.
Think I said this before but here goes, again. I think the way it will be marketed in the US will be to retirees and middle class folk mainly in Phoenix and Tucson. The cruise will be wrapped in an all inclusive package, bus trip from AZ, off the bus onto the boat. Boat makes the trip and returns. People get off the boat directly onto the return bus back to AZ. Easy peasy fall off a log, take a cruise on the Sea of Cortes, no muss no fuss, no driving, no border worries, no air fare. The casinos in NJ picked up people withing a radius of a couple of hours drive to the casinos. Lots of retired people used it as a day trip.
Maybe, but we could have a long thread of the negative reactions of friends or acquaintances when we either ask them to go to Mexico with us or tell them we go ourselves... A bus trip to Laughlin or Vegas is one thing, but to get them to Mexico with the climate there today, well that's a whole new ball game.
I think the group thing will help overcome fears of Mexico. Wouldn't you feel safer in a group of 50 fearless retirees armed with canes and crutches ??
Let's be honest here, notwithstanding the obvious that we forum members are Mexico diehards. Before any significant investment climate can be re established, Mexico must clean up its act exponentially and convince people around the world that it a physically safe and legally protected environment in which to do business. It has a long way to go even after and if it decides to pursue this course.
Aside from Az tourists to whom Roberto refers, the Mexican govt long ago stated they are targeting middle class Mexicans as the core group to take a cruise from here. There are considerable hassles and expenses for them to acquire a visa to enter USA, just to get on a ship that heads back into their home waters. In my humble opinion, I think they have made a wise decision in building it here, especially when one considers the new airport and the nation's population of around 120 million. Sonora alone, with both Caborca and Hermosillo being relatively well-heeled cities, will likely constitute a good chunk of the passengers. Add in the city of Chihuahua with well over 1 million, a short flight over the mountains, and there are strong indications of success. Mexico is building this for Mexicans.
I'm surprised to see the number of middle class and upper middle class Mexicans at the Mayan Palace it's full in the warmers months so I agree about the cruise ships
Originally built by Grupo Vidanta in 2009, The Mar de Cortes International Airport -- the first privately built airport in all of Mexico -- has welcomed private flights since November of 2009. Its not like the feds built it, Mayan has been running pretty full lately, they just built cause they had the money.
For the Senior Community in Phx;Tuc going to a Casino is also not comparable. You can arrive at "any time"; trip is $49; food is cheap and playing voucher are given to incite gaming. A cruise has a time table to keep so a morning Drive from AZ is not possible; you would have to stay overnight. Comparing Cruising to Casino trips also hard for me to bite.
I did not intent to compare cruising to gambling as an activity rather in the manner they can be 'packaged' for ease of sales and activity. No muss, no fuss, no driving, no waiting at the air port, no additional expenses. One price buys all makes a good selling point. The organizer could also pick folk up at their doorstep with van service to the bus. What could be easier? Sleep on the bus and arrive home relaxed. The prfect lazy american vacation.
Why would an overnight stay be necessary with the group bus arrival? The Boat does not have to leave early in the AM, rather it will be dictated by the tides prolly. It would be a matter of scheduling bus departure and arrival times with ship departure times. This would work great withe Mexian folk as well as bus travel here is very common.
I did not intent to compare cruising to gambling as an activity rather in the manner they can be 'packaged' for ease of sales and activity. No muss, no fuss, no driving, no waiting at the air port, no additional expenses. One price buys all makes a good selling point. The organizer could also pick folk up at their doorstep with van service to the bus. What could be easier? Sleep on the bus and arrive home relaxed. The prfect lazy american vacation.
Why would an overnight stay be necessary with the group bus arrival? The Boat does not have to leave early in the AM, rather it will be dictated by the tides prolly. It would be a matter of scheduling bus departure and arrival times with ship departure times. This would work great withe Mexian folk as well as bus travel here is very common.
Roberto, are we assuming that these buses or vans have special access through the border? I can't imagine someone waiting 2 hours to get back into AZ after a long exhausting cruise. I know the other van services used to get special permission to skip the line and head straight to the front which really used to piss me off. There's nothing like waiting in line for 3 hours and then watching a van full of people drive right by you and get an exemption, straight to the front.
Roberto, are we assuming that these buses or vans have special access through the border? I can't imagine someone waiting 2 hours to get back into AZ after a long exhausting cruise. I know the other van services used to get special permission to skip the line and head straight to the front which really used to piss me off. There's nothing like waiting in line for 3 hours and then watching a van full of people drive right by you and get an exemption, straight to the front.
That's a good point. I had not given much thought to that. I wonder how they treat regular cross border bus service. I was told that the mex. vans they run do not cross the border but walk through and get on a different van on the US side. ?? That would add some aggravation to the trip but all in all still and easy process.
Let's be honest here, notwithstanding the obvious that we forum members are Mexico diehards. Before any significant investment climate can be re established, Mexico must clean up its act exponentially and convince people around the world that it a physically safe and legally protected environment in which to do business. It has a long way to go even after and if it decides to pursue this course.
I know this is off subject but it' JimMcG's fault :p:p:p
I do not know if you are following it, but the Iguala killings have focussed a very intense light on the whole issue of Mex. Gov. complicity and inaction in the internationa press. There was nothing new about the killing, almost the exact same thing has happened in Iguala in the past. Through a convergence of current factors, social media being a big one, including the persistence and bravery of the families of the students demanding action, this has resulted in a generalized interest and reporting international. Other more recent shootings have gotten widespread coverage. although belatedly. The fossas, mass graves, of Gerrero near Iguala, are being excavated and hundreds of bodies have been uncovered. Families of the disappeared are finding their voices, crying for justice. Everything has been blamed on cartel to cartel killings and so to be ignored, not investigated, no convictions. There were many thousands of innocent victims.
For example, the recent assasination of a Catholic priest who, from his pulpit, denounced the cartel thought reponsible for the killings in Iguala, Rev. Gorostieta, resulted in over 200 news report hits on my news crawler the very next day. From all over the world. Literally hundreds of priests have been killed in Mexico over the years and thousands 'disappeared', without a whisper in the international press.
Also recentley declassified NSA docs have added to the fire. It's agood fire and hopefully will burn brightly and turn at least some of the corruption to ashes. http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB445/
That's a good point. I had not given much thought to that. I wonder how they treat regular cross border bus service. I was told that the mex. vans they run do not cross the border but walk through and get on a different van on the US side. ?? That would add some aggravation to the trip but all in all still and easy process.
I meant the American services like Head Out to Rocky Point. I know they used to have a deal where they could skip the border wait and go directly to the front of the line which was always frustrating when you've been sitting there for 2 or 3 hours and you watch a van full of people go straight to the front because they used a shuttle service. Hard to rationalize lol. Although I can say that I know Mike and Lynelle personally so I do not hold any ill feelings towards them, they are both great people.
last time I was coming through there was a huge group leaving; all carrying their own golf bags unloading from a Buss in Mex. Walking and switching busses; they had come from a Mayan Golf event; that would be another stop in their journey to the Sea of Cortez. In and out?
Leaving in the afternoon (6PM); sound like a plan. 10Am would limit arrivals. (Walkers and Wheelchairs not welcoming)
I know this is off subject but it' JimMcG's fault :p:p:p
I do not know if you are following it, but the Iguala killings have focussed a very intense light on the whole issue of Mex. Gov. complicity and inaction in the internationa press. There was nothing new about the killing, almost the exact same thing has happened in Iguala in the past. Through a convergence of current factors, social media being a big one, including the persistence and bravery of the families of the students demanding action, this has resulted in a generalized interest and reporting international. Other more recent shootings have gotten widespread coverage. although belatedly. The fossas, mass graves, of Gerrero near Iguala, are being excavated and hundreds of bodies have been uncovered. Families of the disappeared are finding their voices, crying for justice. Everything has been blamed on cartel to cartel killings and so to be ignored, not investigated, no convictions. There were many thousands of innocent victims.
For example, the recent assasination of a Catholic priest who, from his pulpit, denounced the cartel thought reponsible for the killings in Iguala, Rev. Gorostieta, resulted in over 200 news report hits on my news crawler the very next day. From all over the world. Literally hundreds of priests have been killed in Mexico over the years and thousands 'disappeared', without a whisper in the international press.
Also recentley declassified NSA docs have added to the fire. It's agood fire and hopefully will burn brightly and turn at least some of the corruption to ashes. http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB445/
Yes indeed, it is long past due for the Mexican people to take care of business and clean house. If the additional massacre of 43 student/teachers and the 'disappearing' of outspoken clergy is not the final tipping point, I don't know what is. After all, WTF do these low life 'bad asses' think they are? Viva La Revolucion!
Joe, I never heard the story of what happen to you? Was it an accident?
Not really. When you ride dirtbikes for sport I don't think we call it an accident but I was riding my dirtbike May 30th 2010 and I fell over by Cholla Bay and never got back up. I'm an L2 paraplegic however I have regained some use of my legs. I never bring my wheelchair to Rocky Point because I see it as a liability to get stolen. I only come with my walker when Im in town. I don't have any ill feelings towards Mexico. I do wish some things were different. The. "not releasing someone for medical care until they give you money" is frustrating especially with a Spinal Cord Injury in which every minute counts but I guess I shouldn't complain because I was fairly fortunate and I've heard many stories where others were hurt in Mexico and weren't so lucky. I guess a word of advice to anyone that rides or rents recreational vehicles. This is not America in which you get treatment first and the bill later. In Mexico, the bill comes first and then you are released for treatment. This needs to be understood as it could severely impact someone's life.
I remember Jerry telling me something about your incident. You are right though, in Mexico you have to pay first (I have heard similar stories). Good to hear that the spinal damage was not worse. Take care
I remember Jerry telling me something about your incident. You are right though, in Mexico you have to pay first (I have heard similar stories). Good to hear that the spinal damage was not worse. Take care
Let's be honest here, notwithstanding the obvious that we forum members are Mexico diehards. Before any significant investment climate can be re established, Mexico must clean up its act exponentially and convince people around the world that it a physically safe and legally protected environment in which to do business. It has a long way to go even after and if it decides to pursue this course.
The truth is that Mexico's tourism has been increasing in the last few years, despite of what heaters are saying, most of the people that talks trash of Mexico have never been nor they will be visiting Mexico, they just say what they have heard through the telephone lines and you folks know how that game ends, a bunch of know nothing about nobody nowhere!!!!
Mexico is what it is, if it cleans its act and becomes another USA clone then what is left is not Mexico but USA bato loco!!! again third world countries are a few decades behind what the USA citizens are use to in a daily basis, and that is what makes this world SOOOOOOOOOO interesting, forget about Mexico and travel out there more, go to Africa, middle east even Australia will show a couples of world in the same place you will never dream of seen in one place!!!!!
Most people in USA has the power, financially, to do what ever they want and go wherever they want, unfortunately the great majority likes to have someone else do their decisions/thinking/deducing for them rather than arrive to a conclusion by themselves, it is easier to turn to TV or radio to "SEE" what is going on in the world and they just take it as TRUTH because the gov of USA can not LIE to is citizens, please no labels here, both Reps and Dems LIE and that is the truth!!!!!
Is not a matter of us tourist/mexico lovers to change Mexico, Mexico will change Mexico, we tourist enjoy it for what it is, if you expect something else then obviously you are in the wrong place at the wrong time or it is not for you PERIOD>
Yeah, just like all the Mexicans that were going to fly into the new airport.
REMINDER # 2
The fucking Wall street guys put a STOP to it with no problem, the economy is getting stronger and hopefully things will get back to the original plan, remember the ECONOMY was a world wide hit not only in MEXICO!!!!!
Originally built by Grupo Vidanta in 2009, The Mar de Cortes International Airport -- the first privately built airport in all of Mexico -- has welcomed private flights since November of 2009. Its not like the feds built it, Mayan has been running pretty full lately, they just built cause they had the money.
Well, yes and no, they built because they had and agreement with the local gov. of PP, where Grupo Vidanta offered the land to the gov, to build the new airport, of course again with the economy, the move was to bring the tourists as close to the Mayan as possible to make that the first stop and hopefully the only one, if you have seen the original plans of the master plan for the Mayan development it would have been done by now but again because of the economy!!!!!
In other words the great USA financial gurus screwed it for the rest of us ALL OVER the world!!!!!
There is A LOT more than just a private airport!!!!
..............I know the other van services used to get special permission........................
No special permission at all, all they count on is the nice people in front of the line to let them in as the magnet sign says:"...due at airport...." whether they are or not gong to the airport, the passengers as well as the driver have to show passport and get checked too!!!!
The last spring break I worked the waiting was over 8 hours and it took us less than 5 minutes, all the students, full van, applauded!!!
The only time the passengers have to change vans after crossing the border is because the mexican van or american van do not have the necessary paperwork to go across the border, Tufesa or Albatross buses that cross the border do so empty, passengers have to walk thru to show documentation then embark in the other side.
In my case the passengers even had to take their luggage with them through customs
OOOPPPPPSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! this was suppose to be inside information damn it now you know three!!!!!! AQF
It wasn't just the economy. The airport was finished in 2012. In 2009 there was bad press because of the swine flu. In recent years it was all about violence in Mexico. I'm no fan of the Wall Street gurus either, but there are other factors as well. What about all those AeroMexico flights jn 2013? Those biweekly flights originated in Guadalajara, stopped in Hermosillo, then Penasco, then to Las Vegas. Where were all the middle and upper class Mexicans? No flights at all in 2014.
It wasn't just the economy. The airport was finished in 2012. In 2009 there was bad press because of the swine flu. In recent years it was all about violence in Mexico. I'm no fan of the Wall Street gurus either, but there are other factors as well. What about all those AeroMexico flights jn 2013? Those biweekly flights originated in Guadalajara, stopped in Hermosillo, then Penasco, then to Las Vegas. Where were all the middle and upper class Mexicans? No flights at all in 2014.
When it comes to have fun it is the same all over the world, if a new growing touristic center is advertising for the masses but it does not have all the entertainment that other finished touristic centers have then most if not all tourist , local or foreigner, will go to were the fun is, wouldn't you???
No demand no flights, no matter where they are coming or going!!!! economy 101
The violence in Mexico was the Ace that the USA gov, use to try to keep the dollars at home while the economy recuperated, remember the timely manner those pesky WARNINGS use to come out at??????
The middle to upper mexican class was either in Cancun, Carmel, Playa del Carmen, Cabo, Loreto, Acapulco (not as much as it is cartel headquarters) Tulum should I mention more mexican paradises like places that most tpourist visit Mexico during the last 6 years??????
People we need to use more real information and get away from statistics than just show that statistics!!!!
Penasco has many issues to resolve before real economic growth will come. Roads from within Mexico need to be vastly improved so the city is more accessible and there needs to be enough demand for flights to come into our airport. If 80+% of Penasco's tourist business continues to come from Arizona it is likely the status quo will continue. Penasco desperately needs a huge influx of visitors from all over to help grow the local economy. In order for Penasco to be an appealing tourist destination when compared to others in Mexico activities need to be developed and promoted beyond our beautiful beaches. Think organized tours with a set place, published materials, etc. Additionally not all visitors want to stay in a condo or casa. The complete lack of higher end hotel rooms in Penasco with a single contact point does not help to make it easy for first timers to determine where to stay.
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it, Mexican Proverb, Well I want to thank JWT for finally removing Jerry from the thrown, Got to buy you a beer JWT. Hope Jerry don't read this.
Maybe even toss in the fish dinner the chiweene lost on the bet over the homeport. Sure got quiet on here, Looks like that hillbilly fandango is over, LOL
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it, Mexican Proverb, Well I want to thank JWT for finally removing Jerry from the thrown, Got to buy you a beer JWT. Hope Jerry don't read this.
Hey dog we both get out of rehab on the same day! what are the odds. Let's go find some hookers and blow in AP! I have been showing some French videographers the AZ side of the Mexican border from west to east.I now sort of hate french people....Handing them over to some tourist guides from Hermosilo in Douglas tomorrow.The biggest payday they have ever had in the old "van load of knuckleheads" game. macho is dead I hear.....but buried on a Campo near Desemboque.....oh JWt is a tubby little realtor named Robin I hear...8 whole years of experience!!!,..run from it!,!,,
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it, Mexican Proverb, Well I want to thank JWT for finally removing Jerry from the thrown, Got to buy you a beer JWT. Hope Jerry don't read this.
Maybe even toss in the fish dinner the chiweene lost on the bet over the homeport. Sure got quiet on here, Looks like that hillbilly fandango is over, LOL
They are building cement blocks, not building a pier yet.
The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it, Mexican Proverb, Well I want to thank JWT for finally removing Jerry from the thrown, Got to buy you a beer JWT. Hope Jerry don't read this.
Mr. Dawg!!!!!! I got lost but you!!!!!! what happen?????? oh well I always knew that not showing up in the forum does not mean being defeated in a stupid thread argument or re-thinking your come back attack, it just means that the life out of the forum requires some attention!!!!
Watch out Jerry is coming and take your bone(r) away!!!!!! AQF
No more lavada for me amigo, I did hang out in APson when I went to Cochise College, Man if I could get one of them girls on the Malquerida I might start up. So how did you get the intel on our snob from las conchas? I'll tell you our PPRES and insurance agents (ambulance chasers) here in beautiful Penasco sure run afoul. Here's a recipe for hangovers. Sure hope you know who don't see this. ,
No more lavada for me amigo, I did hang out in APson when I went to Cochise College, Man if I could get one of them girls on the Malquerida I might start up. So how did you get the intel on our snob from las conchas? I'll tell you our PPRES and insurance agents (ambulance chasers) here in beautiful Penasco sure run afoul. Here's a recipe for hangovers. Sure hope you know who don't see this. ,
the boys from Sinaloa control AP and demand the best and freshest seafood...it is sort of a cool town if you make it back across..
Where was that hang over cure when I needed it!!!!!!!
This site is Rocky Point Talk, and not Rocky Point Trash !
Welcome and greetings to all good spirited people who may be financially able and willing to move to Penasco, and become positive members of the community in the near future. You can get a lot of good and honest info about this community if you can "separate the wheat from the chafe" on this blog site. Most of the constant and prolific bloggers here would like to relocate from outlying rural México to the city of Rocky Point, or move from USA. They all seem resentful and hateful of others who already made the right decision. DUH. However, I'm certain they are well meaning people who will feel more secure and less spiteful when things improve for them. They can then be positive assets of a community.
Renting for 6 months at the start is likely a good idea. But, if you already have "street smarts" for Penasco , this is the buying season due to quite depressed prices. If you ask someone who actually knows, she/he can tell you about annual taxes, water costs, electrical costs, and many other things. Unfortunately, the bloggers here can't assist on anything except commercial tourist info, or bashing the city for excessive wind ( totally not true), it's destruction of the society and sea by building a cruise ship port ( not even close to true), etc, etc.
It seems envy breeds contempt in some levels of gringo society...unfortunate. We all hope they can grow out of it, and join the fortunate. They will then be welcome to contribute to a good society that is striving to improve.
Well, hate to point it out JWT but this thread is about the mistake called the Homeport.Like a hooker trying to hustle up some business outside the Super Bowl it does make sense for realtors like you to put your sign on a busy corner but your comment really belongs in the real estate thread.
I always assumed I was a forum member and a poster, but maybe Im wrong and we all are bloggers? :rolleyes: To many high tech names for me, I will remain a poster and on a hot summer day on the beach Im a poser in my thong and fishing pole in my hand. ;)
I always assumed I was a forum member and a poster, but maybe Im wrong and we all are bloggers? :rolleyes: To many high tech names for me, I will remain a poster and on a hot summer day on the beach Im a poser in my thong and fishing pole in my hand. ;)
I always assumed I was a forum member and a poster, but maybe Im wrong and we all are bloggers? :rolleyes: To many high tech names for me, I will remain a poster and on a hot summer day on the beach Im a poser in my thong and fishing pole in my hand. ;)
You mean Kenny's "Fish Scarin Outfit"?????????????
This site is Rocky Point Talk, and not Rocky Point Trash !
Welcome and greetings to all good spirited people who may be financially able and willing to move to Penasco, and become positive members of the community in the near future. You can get a lot of good and honest info about this community if you can "separate the wheat from the chafe" on this blog site. Most of the constant and prolific bloggers here would like to relocate from outlying rural México to the city of Rocky Point, or move from USA. They all seem resentful and hateful of others who already made the right decision. DUH. However, I'm certain they are well meaning people who will feel more secure and less spiteful when things improve for them. They can then be positive assets of a community.
Renting for 6 months at the start is likely a good idea. But, if you already have "street smarts" for Penasco , this is the buying season due to quite depressed prices. If you ask someone who actually knows, she/he can tell you about annual taxes, water costs, electrical costs, and many other things. Unfortunately, the bloggers here can't assist on anything except commercial tourist info, or bashing the city for excessive wind ( totally not true), it's destruction of the society and sea by building a cruise ship port ( not even close to true), etc, etc.
It seems envy breeds contempt in some levels of gringo society...unfortunate. We all hope they can grow out of it, and join the fortunate. They will then be welcome to contribute to a good society that is striving to improve.
