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Stuart

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West Phoenix is the new Chicago. Only a small percentage of the assaults, burglaries, shootings and robberies are reported. What is reported is the continual deaths that make the news. Not sure how society devolved so far. I grew up in West Phoenix and never heard much of any crime happening [many years ago].
Ghettoization? When you look at Sunnyslope, 19th and Northern, Maryvale, etc. used to be mostly middle income blue collar neighborhoods. Decent places to buy a home and raise a family through the 60's to the 80's. In the 90's, this started to change as the neghborhoods became more Mexican in flavor, more properties became rentals, and a good degree of white flight took place to other areas of the Valley as the neighborhoods degraded in character.

Today? Won't catch me in those parts. Maybe during the day if I have to be there for some reason, but not at night. Gangbangers and crime. There are pockets of the same in Mesa and South Phoenix, but not to the same degree as the West Valley. I watch the local news and near daily there's a shooting or body found in an alley or street. And 90% of the time, it's in the West Valley area.

Don't have an answer for it or know how to fix it, but you are correct that it's not a safe place to be.
 

jerry

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West Phoenix is the new Chicago. Only a small percentage of the assaults, burglaries, shootings and robberies are reported. What is reported is the continual deaths that make the news. Not sure how society devolved so far. I grew up in West Phoenix and never heard much of any crime happening [many years ago].
drugs...and punishment... Once you get that Felony on your jacket you are pretty much limited
 
I have contracting work in West Phx and in Sunnyslope mostly due to property crime on commercial buildings. The problem is daunting. The homeless, unemployed, drug addicts, drunks or whatever they are defecate all over the properties
, break water lines, break windows, damage HVAC systems, leave trash everywhere, leave needles everywhere.......this list could go on. At one shopping center there are two 24 hour guards and they cant keep up. I get disgusted and just want to move away. I know most of this is driven by addiction but isn’t there an island somewhere we can ship them all to?
 

jerry

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I have contracting work in West Phx and in Sunnyslope mostly due to property crime on commercial buildings. The problem is daunting. The homeless, unemployed, drug addicts, drunks or whatever they are defecate all over the properties
, break water lines, break windows, damage HVAC systems, leave trash everywhere, leave needles everywhere.......this list could go on. At one shopping center there are two 24 hour guards and they cant keep up. I get disgusted and just want to move away. I know most of this is driven by addiction but isn’t there an island somewhere we can ship them all to?
A base income is another answer.Everyone gets $1200 a month.So you have cash for a little apartment to OD in or get it together.
 
I have contracting work in West Phx and in Sunnyslope mostly due to property crime on commercial buildings. The problem is daunting. The homeless, unemployed, drug addicts, drunks or whatever they are defecate all over the properties
, break water lines, break windows, damage HVAC systems, leave trash everywhere, leave needles everywhere.......this list could go on. At one shopping center there are two 24 hour guards and they cant keep up. I get disgusted and just want to move away. I know most of this is driven by addiction but isn’t there an island somewhere we can ship them all to?
This is kinda messed up. There are two solutions- one involves intervention, I'm not talking spiritual blabber but one that requires the community to talk to them and get stuff sorted aka counselling. But, the success rate depends on their hostility towards the community folks. If they're aggressive, in particular, it wouldn't work out. The other method is pretty straightforward- there are many companies that train security guards. Maybe the community can pool together, acquire funds and request the leader to hire the services of an agency such as those. From my knowledge, they're trained for months and that means, they're able to deal with different situations effortlessly.
 

jerry

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From a facebook post:FB_IMG_1515343958226.jpg FB_IMG_1515343904882.jpg
from baja friend:.The Baja highway 1 is a real danger.....we just drove up a couple days ago and found it far worse than last year. These photos are some of the good spots. A friend brought up a really good pointa : The Governor of North Bbaja does not want to spend the money to fix the highway because everyone that drives south spends their money in Southern Baja, not in North Baja. There is no incentive to fix the road, not even if it is costing lives, and it sure as hell is doing that. We saw two cars rolled over down in deep gullies, and there is no way these people could have come out alive. It was all too obvious what happened, they hit a huge (about 3 feet wide and about a foot deep hole, then through the guard rail and down about 80 feet to the bottom) This was just the one, and the other had several holes like that and it looked like the car tried to miss them hitting the side rail and going through it down to a similar end. Both cars were so totaled I could not tell what make they were. We plan on trying the other road through San Filipe !
 

jerry

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Los Cabos, BCS.- While gunmen in the capital of the state massacred the general commander of Custodios of the CERESO of La Paz, in streets of the colony El Zacatal of San José del Cabo, the executed 462 fell in the municipality of Los Cabos.

The escalation of violence does not stop in the two main municipalities of the entity, where already accumulated more than a thousand executed by criminal cells that vie for drug trafficking and drug trafficking.

In the Rodrigo Aragón colony, between Ernesto Chanes Chaves and Agustín Torres Pico, from San José del Cabo, the executed 462 fell and the number 15 during the month of January, in a bloody struggle that began 12 months ago and has no end .

According to sources from the Attorney General's Office of the State, the armed attack occurred at 7:35 pm after gunmen surprised the civilian, who was walking through the streets of the El Zacatal neighborhood, where the highest number of executions has taken place.

The deceased was identified as 32 years old and was originally from La Paz.

Meanwhile, in the state capital, the armed attack was recorded at 20:45 in the Colonia Puesta del Sol, against the commander of custodians of the Cereso de La Paz, 43-year-old Raymundo Magaña Bautista, originally from Ciudad Constitución .

Just a year ago, the then commander of custodians of Cereso de la Paz, José Rosario Cadena, was also executed in Colonia La Rinconada. Today the story was repeated against the current police chief, in the Colonia Puesta del Sol.

According to federal intelligence sources, gunmen were already waiting for the police chief when he arrived at an address on Añiñi Street between Ignacio Altamirano and Valentín Gómez Farías, from the Colonia del Puesta del Sol. First, some whistles were heard, then the rattle of machine guns.
 

Stuart

Aye carumba!!!
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Highway 1 has always been a white-knuckle, take your life in your hands drive. Nothing's changed since I last drove it over 10 years ago. Even more of a nightmare if you are towing anything. The potholes are only part of the problem. Having no shoulders in many places makes it a death trap. And the first thing you learn is that the semis and buses take their half of the road and part of yours as well.

I had cramps in my hands from griping the steering wheel so hard. And for certain, you only want to drive it during daylight hours, as you cannot see a damned thing at night.
 
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