Looks like lock down will continue for awhile

brokenwave

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There is different articles about the rapid tests that Penasco received. Are they tests for active CV in people or Antibody tests?
Can anyone provide some clarification on this? Translate app's don't do that well on the notices I've seen. Thx
 
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Idyllwild

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brokenwave said:
There is different articles about the rapid tests that Penasco received. Are they tests for active CV in people or Antibody tests?
Can anyone provide some clarification on this? Translate app's don't do that well on the notices I've seen. Thx
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This is an RNA test for active COVID infections. Nearly all commercial antibody tests currently are somewhere between unreliable and worthless. Also various tests purportedly test for different antibodies (it’s not clear which one should be preferred). Finally, we don’t have a sense as to whether the presence of antibodies implies immunity, and for how long.

i would like to know exactly which rapid RNA test they are using here.
 
brokenwave

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Idyllwild said:
This is an RNA test for active COVID infections. Nearly all commercial antibody tests currently are somewhere between unreliable and worthless. Also various tests purportedly test for different antibodies (it’s not clear which one should be preferred). Finally, we don’t have a sense as to whether the presence of antibodies implies immunity, and for how long.

i would like to know exactly which rapid RNA test they are using here.
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Thx, I read the tests RP bought came from either China or Korea.
Also Roche has a Antibody test that's 99.9% accurate and was approved by the FDA today.
 
playaperro

playaperro

El Pirata
brokenwave said:
There is different articles about the rapid tests that Penasco received. Are they tests for active CV in people or Antibody tests?
Can anyone provide some clarification on this? Translate app's don't do that well on the notices I've seen. Thx
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Yo no entiendo ,si acaban de anunciar en rueda de prensa que tienen pruebas rapidas que 15 minutos te informa si es positivo o negativo ,por q no se la aplican,por que si observan las personas que estan atendiendo este caso solo dos estan bien protegidos con trajes especiales y los demas con mucha falta de prevencion al estar en contacto con un caso de Coronavirus,por eso mucha gente YA esta dudando de este virus si es tan Peligroso como no lo han hecho ver en las redes Sociales y Noticieros. No mas chequen las imagenes.OJO mi gente de peñasco algo hay de tras de esta Pandemia.Las imagines hablan por Si solas.
This guy is saying they rapid test for CV.
 
playaperro

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Just don't get it the town has been compromised from people coming and going from the East entrance, People coming from the north already know social distancing and how to prevent corvid 19. It's not going to go away. The locals are going to start revolting within the next week, when do you open the beaches and restaurants. Just asking for a friend.
 
Roberto

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Just read the first guy at the hospital just passed and his roommate has been located, they been on the hunt for roommate for a couple days, they worked the parking lots of the ley express and bodega. Salvadoran decent says, I frequent the ley express myself, very good products, is the back door still open cause that's how they got in from TJ, says the article on defrente.
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I knew there was a good reason I do not let any of the helpers at the grocery touch anything, car washers too. Suoer Ley has the parking helpers who keep the rest out of the lot. Good idea.
 
playaperro

playaperro

El Pirata
Roberto said:
I knew there was a good reason I do not let any of the helpers at the grocery touch anything, car washers too. Suoer Ley has the parking helpers who keep the rest out of the lot. Good idea.
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So the guy that died of corvid 19 roommate that was working the parking lots turned up negative for corvid19, do you think these tests are unreliable.
 
Roberto

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Well, when it comes to biology and thereby medicine there are probabilities attached to everything and virtually none are 100%. For example , Penicillin is a great antibiotic but it does not work 100% of the time. Some folks have, for what ever reason, natural resistances to some diseases, usually written off as natural antibodies that may be of genetic origin or maybe resulting from earlier, milder exposure to a disease. It's like craps, but with better odds.
 
Roberto

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Buffalo Marty said:
I have 2 questions, a quick one and a more complicated one:
1) quick question: is/was there ever a checkpoint on the Caborca highway for people coming from Hermosillo/Nogales/etc?
Yes and as far as I know there still is one. I as understand it , it was located between the resort and the town then moved east of the resort closer to the gold mine where there has been a military stop for some time.
I think there would have to be because anyone coming from east of Penasco could turn onto Freemont before reaching the overpass. Regardless of the location of the main checkpoint at the overpass, you would have to lockdown the access to Freemont from the Cabroca highway, no?
Yes, exactly. The Sonoyta/ Penasco stop was north of the overpass but moved south when vehicles were observed driving through the desert to avoid the stop. This helped close off that drive around but in effect opened up uninspected access via the free way to Penasco via the dog leg east to the Penasco/caborca Y connection which at that point in conjunction with moving the Caborca stop further east and east of the Y, permtted entry , uninspected to Penasco via that route. Moving BOTH of the sanitary stops resulted in opening the door. Obvious uncoordinated oversight.
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Roberto

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Sorry I screwed up the earlier, now edited, description of the stops !! It is accurate now as far as I know. I have thought about driving to both stops just to see but have had vehicle troubles.

I hope the alternate uninspected route has been stopped. Anyone know who to call about it.?
 
Roberto

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Southbeacher said:
Geez, Roberto. You’re beating this to death. Wish I could beat it to death. But with the recent guys who snuck through, infected, should tell you how important the integrity of the sanitary stops are. And I’m done tossing Miramar back and forth between us. Me too. I've certainly done dumb stuff myself. I might’ve done the same based on my perspective. Yes I admitted I might have snuck around myself but that is not the point. Be happy and wll. And you and your family I hope stay well. Authorities have been notified about that open that route, hopefully they will close it off. I really do not want to spend another 14 weeks in seclusion.

On a good note I discovered I can get a Capone's pizza, and a selection from a smaller menu, for take out and remembered that shore fishing is legal !!!
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playaperro

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El Pirata
Roberto said:
Sorry I screwed up the earlier, now edited, description of the stops !! It is accurate now as far as I know. I have thought about driving to both stops just to see but have had vehicle troubles.

I hope the alternate uninspected route has been stopped. Anyone know who to call about it.?
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Amigo, there some small talk about the mayor
 
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MIRAMAR

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Roberto- they are letting people into Penasco through the main checkpoint from outside of the area. We weren't trying to sneak in. On our way back to Tucson on Sunday afternoon, when we left Penasco, we saw a truck full of workers who drove to Sonoyta. And by the way, they didn't have face masks, gloves or goggles on.

Here's what RockyPoint 360 says:
"During a Wednesday night broadcast from the Puerto Peñasco administration’s official Facebook page, Municipal Health Coordinator Dr. Oscar Castro detailed with the beginning of Phase 3 in Mexico, and now the report of Puerto Peñasco’s first Covid-19 case, the following measures have gone into effect to bolster the preventive steps the city has already taken:
  • Mandatory use of masks when in public (for groceries, pharmacy, bank, or other essentials)
  • Masks available at Red Cross and Police Station for those that cannot find or purchase any
  • Sanitary filter at entrance to Puerto Peñasco along Sonoyta-Peñasco highway to be closed at 10 p.m. No one living in areas beyond the filter area (i.e Las Lagrimas, Laguna Shores, Hacienda de Cortez, etc.) will be allowed into city after 10 p.m. – which is when the nightly curfew siren rings anyway".
It never says anyone living outside the areas will not be allowed in. We never tried the other "secret" ways to get in.
We were following those rules, so I would love to see where your rules are posted (gloves, goggles) and no one allowed into town are reported. BTW, ignoring responses. Hope to see you at Bryans!
 
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RP Life

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playaperro said:
So the guy that died of corvid 19 roommate that was working the parking lots turned up negative for corvid19, do you think these tests are unreliable.
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This was posted today on Rocky Point 360
They also posted we are at 1 confirmed case instead of 2

Earlier this week, Municipal Health Coordinator Dr. Oscar Castro Castro reported an individual in Puerto Peñasco tested positive for coronavirus per the rapid test kit. At the time, he also emphasized official confirmation as to whether this was indeed a second positive COVID-19 case for Puerto Peñasco would have to be issued by the State Secretary of Health via further swab testing. The latter test was reported as negative. Sadly, the individual in question passed away on Sunday May 3rd at the General Hospital in Puerto Peñasco

You can view rest of article in link below (I would read the full article)
rockypoint360.com/rapid-tests-still-require-official-confirmation-for-covid-19-cases/
 
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dirtsurfer

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No one answered the question : How on this planet is anyone being exposed by me driving in my car and going straight to my beach house? There are still more cases and more deaths in the US from ordinary flu, driving accidents, drug overdoses and a myriad of other maladies and we do not crush the economy, bankrupt businesses and people and cause social unrest over these other sources of death.
 
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dirtsurfer said:
No one answered the question : How on this planet is anyone being exposed by me driving in my car and going straight to my beach house? There are still more cases and more deaths in the US from ordinary flu, driving accidents, drug overdoses and a myriad of other maladies and we do not crush the economy, bankrupt businesses and people and cause social unrest over these other sources of death.
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I thought you were treated poorly for an informative post that I found useful. The level of argumentation and straight out trolling on this forum will eventually run off many people who might use it.

One point of correction however. The CDC estimate for ordinary influenza deaths in the US for all of 2019 is “24,000 to 62,000” (death certificates might list various causes such as respiratory failure, so there is an uncertainty. COVID-19 has already killed over 70,000 in the US by official count, most in just two months. Excess death rates in hot spots such as NYC suggest that the actual deaths are much higher, perhaps by a third, reflecting fatalities that were never tested. The US will likely have at least 150,000 deaths this year from COVID-19, and it could be much worse.
 
brokenwave

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People need to weigh the economic damage vs the death's of 267K people in the World. (It's still rising 10 weeks into it)
The repercussions from both of these are Bad, you just have to pick the one you can live with.
Your choice maybe different than mine or others.

Those in charge already have, the economy is more important so some/many peoples deaths are the price to pay.

If the CV goes diminishes and comes back again this fall/winter add in the damage from round 2 or 3?
Who knows, Just an educated guess right now.
 
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