Going on Sunday. Will report.
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Looks like lock down will continue for awhile
Started by RP Life · Apr 26, 2020 · 1,380 replies
Stuart said:
Going on Sunday. Will report.
Is it essential or non essential?
PlayaPerro where are you. I have a video with another body interested? can't post it here but I can send it in a pm its gone viral already you may have seen it.
Stuart said:
Going on Sunday. Will report.
It's nasty weather this week, real feel temps were 115-125 when I was there from Fri-Tues.
Air is thick from the humidity, but you already know that.
Enjoy
CheddarBob said:
Is it essential or non essential?
Subjective. Everything I do is essential. This post included.
This article was posted today De Frente Sonoyta
These were just a couple of the points they brought up:
They are actually admitting that "disinfecting the inside of vehicles and the tires does not make sense. Disinfection tunnels are NONSENSE and are dangerous. No disinfectant designed for inert surfaces should be used on human skin. "
www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3572679282777549&id=1363215350390631&__tn__=K-R
These were just a couple of the points they brought up:
They are actually admitting that "disinfecting the inside of vehicles and the tires does not make sense. Disinfection tunnels are NONSENSE and are dangerous. No disinfectant designed for inert surfaces should be used on human skin. "
www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3572679282777549&id=1363215350390631&__tn__=K-R
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Here is the Translated version:
THINGS WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT WHAT TO DO IN THE Covid-19
The effects of COVID-19 on the human body not only manifest during the disease, but can remain afterwards and leave aftermath.
1. The SARS COV2, can only enter the body and infect through the mucous membranes of EYES AND BREATHES
2. SARS COV2 DOES NOT enter through the skin. Walking around in biosecurity suits, and GLOVES is ABSURD! (except if work is critical patient unit in hospital)
3. The SARS COV2 for its tiny size by aerodynamic effect, does NOT stick to clothes. We'd have to move at high speed for this to happen.
4. SARS COV2, does not infect vehicles, nor the tires of them. No one inhales or licks the tires of a car or the external structure.
HAS NO SENSE ROCKING DISINFECTANT to vehicles!!
5. On the floor and on the street there may be coronavirus, yes, but adhere to our shoes and also do it in sufficient quantity to infect us not (theoretically only if we lick the sole of our shoes). THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPROVABLE.
6. Disinfection tunnels HAVE NO SENSE and are dangerous. No disinfectant designed for inert surfaces should be used on human skin.
7. It makes sense to wear a mask (to avoid exhaling, coughing particles with coronavirus).
It makes sense to wash our hands constantly or use alcohol gel.
It makes sense to keep the distance between people.
Milan Epidemiology Center
Due to the collapse of the Health System in several countries, we, health professionals, prepare this text for the population in case you don't want to risk going to a hospital immediately:
Symptoms appear from the third day after infection (virus symptoms).
1rd phase:
* Body pain.
* Pain in the eyes.
* Headache.
* Vomiting
* Diarrhea.
* Nasal secretion or nose congestion.
* irritated eyes.
* Burn when urinating.
* Febrile Feeling.
* Dry throat.
It's very important to count the days of symptoms: first, second, third.
Medication: AZITROMICINE, Take 1 capsule of 500 mg per day from the 3st day, to reduce contagion, decrease symptoms and prevent pneumonia.
IVERMECTINA helps neutralize the virus, better before fever appears.
Don't wait for the fever to come before you take antibiotics.
Attention, it's very important to drink lots of liquids especially water. Drink plenty of water to keep your throat from dry and to help clean your lungs.
Phase 2: (4th to 8th day) Inflammatory
* Loss of flavor and / or smell.
* Tired to the minimum effort.
* Chest pain (chest box).
* Chest oppression.
* Lower back pain (in kidney region).
The virus attacks nerve endings.
Differentiate between tiredness and shortness of breath:
- shortness of breath is when the person is sitting, without making any effort and lacking the air;
- tiredness is when the person moves to do something simple and feels tired).
Need lots of hydration and vitamin c
(Virus virus binds to oxygen, blood quality is poor, with less oxygen) minimum level 90.
If you have a cough, have some cough syrup. (I took the acetylcysteine syrup in envelope).
3rd phase: Healing: Day 3 enters the healing phase, up to the fourteenth day (convalescence).
Don't delay treatment, the sooner the better.
Good luck to all."
It's better to keep these recommendations, prevention is never too much
Council of isolation hospitals, we can do medications that are taken in home isolation hospitals
1. Vitamin C-1000
2. Vitamin E (E)
3. (10 to 11) hours, sitting in the sun for 15 to 20 minutes.
4. Egg flour once.
5. Rest / sleep at least 7-8 hours
6. We drink 1.5 litres of water daily
7. All meals must be hot (not cold). And that's all we do at the hospital to strengthen the immune system.
Note that coronavirus pH varies from 5.5 to 8.5.
Therefore, all we need to do to eliminate the virus is consume more alkaline foods above the acidic level of the virus.
Such as: Green Bananas, Lemon-9.9 pH Yellow Lemon-8.2 pH Avocado-15.6 pH Garlic-13.2 pH Mango-8.7 pH Tangerine-8.5 pH Pineapple-12.7 pH Berro - 22.7 pH Oranges-9.2 pH
How to know you are infected with COVID 19. Itching in the throat 2. Dry in the throat 3. Dry cough 4. High temperature 5. Lack of breath 6. Loss of smell... And lemon with warm water remove the virus at first before reaching the lungs!!!!
THINGS WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT WHAT TO DO IN THE Covid-19
The effects of COVID-19 on the human body not only manifest during the disease, but can remain afterwards and leave aftermath.
1. The SARS COV2, can only enter the body and infect through the mucous membranes of EYES AND BREATHES
2. SARS COV2 DOES NOT enter through the skin. Walking around in biosecurity suits, and GLOVES is ABSURD! (except if work is critical patient unit in hospital)
3. The SARS COV2 for its tiny size by aerodynamic effect, does NOT stick to clothes. We'd have to move at high speed for this to happen.
4. SARS COV2, does not infect vehicles, nor the tires of them. No one inhales or licks the tires of a car or the external structure.
HAS NO SENSE ROCKING DISINFECTANT to vehicles!!
5. On the floor and on the street there may be coronavirus, yes, but adhere to our shoes and also do it in sufficient quantity to infect us not (theoretically only if we lick the sole of our shoes). THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPROVABLE.
6. Disinfection tunnels HAVE NO SENSE and are dangerous. No disinfectant designed for inert surfaces should be used on human skin.
7. It makes sense to wear a mask (to avoid exhaling, coughing particles with coronavirus).
It makes sense to wash our hands constantly or use alcohol gel.
It makes sense to keep the distance between people.
Milan Epidemiology Center
Due to the collapse of the Health System in several countries, we, health professionals, prepare this text for the population in case you don't want to risk going to a hospital immediately:
Symptoms appear from the third day after infection (virus symptoms).
1rd phase:
* Body pain.
* Pain in the eyes.
* Headache.
* Vomiting
* Diarrhea.
* Nasal secretion or nose congestion.
* irritated eyes.
* Burn when urinating.
* Febrile Feeling.
* Dry throat.
It's very important to count the days of symptoms: first, second, third.
Medication: AZITROMICINE, Take 1 capsule of 500 mg per day from the 3st day, to reduce contagion, decrease symptoms and prevent pneumonia.
IVERMECTINA helps neutralize the virus, better before fever appears.
Don't wait for the fever to come before you take antibiotics.
Attention, it's very important to drink lots of liquids especially water. Drink plenty of water to keep your throat from dry and to help clean your lungs.
Phase 2: (4th to 8th day) Inflammatory
* Loss of flavor and / or smell.
* Tired to the minimum effort.
* Chest pain (chest box).
* Chest oppression.
* Lower back pain (in kidney region).
The virus attacks nerve endings.
Differentiate between tiredness and shortness of breath:
- shortness of breath is when the person is sitting, without making any effort and lacking the air;
- tiredness is when the person moves to do something simple and feels tired).
Need lots of hydration and vitamin c
(Virus virus binds to oxygen, blood quality is poor, with less oxygen) minimum level 90.
If you have a cough, have some cough syrup. (I took the acetylcysteine syrup in envelope).
3rd phase: Healing: Day 3 enters the healing phase, up to the fourteenth day (convalescence).
Don't delay treatment, the sooner the better.
Good luck to all."
It's better to keep these recommendations, prevention is never too much
Council of isolation hospitals, we can do medications that are taken in home isolation hospitals
1. Vitamin C-1000
2. Vitamin E (E)
3. (10 to 11) hours, sitting in the sun for 15 to 20 minutes.
4. Egg flour once.
5. Rest / sleep at least 7-8 hours
6. We drink 1.5 litres of water daily
7. All meals must be hot (not cold). And that's all we do at the hospital to strengthen the immune system.
Note that coronavirus pH varies from 5.5 to 8.5.
Therefore, all we need to do to eliminate the virus is consume more alkaline foods above the acidic level of the virus.
Such as: Green Bananas, Lemon-9.9 pH Yellow Lemon-8.2 pH Avocado-15.6 pH Garlic-13.2 pH Mango-8.7 pH Tangerine-8.5 pH Pineapple-12.7 pH Berro - 22.7 pH Oranges-9.2 pH
How to know you are infected with COVID 19. Itching in the throat 2. Dry in the throat 3. Dry cough 4. High temperature 5. Lack of breath 6. Loss of smell... And lemon with warm water remove the virus at first before reaching the lungs!!!!
brokenwave said:
It's nasty weather this week, real feel temps were 115-125 when I was there from Fri-Tues.
Air is thick from the humidity, but you already know that.
Enjoy
That storm (weather) blew up North from RP few days ago.
CheddarBob said:
Is it essential or non essential?
Well... it's essential to me. Need I say more?
8/28/20 De Frente
Puerto Peñasco adds 13 cases of Covid-19, reaches 134 accumulated
One of the highest numbers of Covid-19 cases registered this day in Puerto Peñasco, adding 13 more cases of people infected by the new coronavirus.
Of the 13 cases announced today, 2 were in healthcare workers.
With today's cases, this port reaches 134 accumulated cases, remaining at 19 official deaths.
Today, the Ministry of Health of Sonora announced 22 deaths and 196 new cases of Covid-19 in the state, with which 2,649 deaths and 27,950 positive cases accumulate. In addition, 23,228 patients have recovered from the disease.
Puerto Peñasco adds 13 cases of Covid-19, reaches 134 accumulated
One of the highest numbers of Covid-19 cases registered this day in Puerto Peñasco, adding 13 more cases of people infected by the new coronavirus.
Of the 13 cases announced today, 2 were in healthcare workers.
With today's cases, this port reaches 134 accumulated cases, remaining at 19 official deaths.
Today, the Ministry of Health of Sonora announced 22 deaths and 196 new cases of Covid-19 in the state, with which 2,649 deaths and 27,950 positive cases accumulate. In addition, 23,228 patients have recovered from the disease.
Rocky Point Times facebook
FYI- Curfew for this weekend will be 11pm-6am and STARTING SEPT. 1st 12am-6am
AND... After Sept. 8th- The Sanitary filters at the different town entrances will be REMOVED. (And NO more covid testing at entrance)
This stays the same...
Wearing a Mask is mandatory
Beach Sanitary Filter
Sanitizing, etc.
FYI- Curfew for this weekend will be 11pm-6am and STARTING SEPT. 1st 12am-6am
AND... After Sept. 8th- The Sanitary filters at the different town entrances will be REMOVED. (And NO more covid testing at entrance)
This stays the same...
Wearing a Mask is mandatory
Beach Sanitary Filter
Sanitizing, etc.
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AZRob said:
That storm (weather) blew up North from RP few days ago.
I'm going back down Sat to hopefully see the next wave of storms come north from Baja.
Maybe Penasco will catch one so I can see a big lightning storm.
I'm not looking forward to the 80 degree dew points again, it was pretty rough last week.
But the wife said we're going, so I'm going.
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Well these things may not do anything physiological but might make people believe ,something is happening, The health people are trying. the placebo effect can be very powerful.
Roberto... is Capone's open?
Husband went down on Wednesday, and no stop at the border- same as usual, no issues.
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The 2 trips I've been down this month have been super easy.
Zero problems in Sonoyta and a few questions at the bridge sanitary check point.
And a quick sanitizing spray coming into Cholla Bay.
The biggest issue I have had is that Pacifico cerveza is really hard to find at the Modelorama stores in town.
They have said there's almost none on the Corona trucks when they deliver, Corona, Modelo are plentiful.
I will search with gusto this trip.
Zero problems in Sonoyta and a few questions at the bridge sanitary check point.
And a quick sanitizing spray coming into Cholla Bay.
The biggest issue I have had is that Pacifico cerveza is really hard to find at the Modelorama stores in town.
They have said there's almost none on the Corona trucks when they deliver, Corona, Modelo are plentiful.
I will search with gusto this trip.
Last edited: Aug 30, 2020 at 8:21 AM
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Stuart said:
Roberto... is Capone's open?
Yup. a shortened menu. Open for lunch. Not sure of late hours as they keep changing but I would not worry
Stuart, just came back from Capone’s and it’s packed and rocking
Tec Diver said:
Stuart, just came back from Capone’s and it’s packed and rocking
Sounds inviting! I thought these places could only be at 25-40% capacity?!
Just go a email from Playa de Oro RV park.
Hotel is where old restaurant. East side of main park
Hotel is where old restaurant. East side of main park
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Another unhappy Tourist due to the Covid test scam at the Filter. They lost their resort money. I wonder how many more will during this holiday.
They denounce that in Puerto Peñasco sanitary filter they use false tests of Covid-19
> A tourist family exhibits the scam of these quick analyzes
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, August 30, 2020.- A family of tourists who came to this port denounced that the rapid tests that are being applied in the sanitary filter are giving false, wrong diagnoses, since they had to have it positive for coronavirus, but to return to the States States and taking the test again, this was negative.
Here the full message:
"BEWARE: New way Mexico is scamming people. My family and I were on our way to Rocky Point yesterday morning. We were selected to get tested for Covid. My husband tested positive and we were instructed to turn around and get out. On our journey home we were all scared because we have Covid and haven't had symptoms yet. When we got home we immediately went to Urgent Care to be tested for a US test. NEWS FROM BREAKING TIME We just finished receive our results and they are all negative. According to our Dr. USA stated that he does not know what kind of test MX performed, but it could be for antibodies, which means that at some point my husband could have been exposed or had Covid Some time ago I know I had pneumonia in February.So maybe you had Covid back then, but not now.
Now I'm off my resort fee, not enjoying family time on the beach, etc. Is this a new scam to control the population entering Rocky Point while earning money from the resort?
I am so happy that my family does not have Covid but at the same time I am upset that we were wrongly accused of having the virus. "
www.facebook.com/penascodiario/?ref=py_c
They denounce that in Puerto Peñasco sanitary filter they use false tests of Covid-19
> A tourist family exhibits the scam of these quick analyzes
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, August 30, 2020.- A family of tourists who came to this port denounced that the rapid tests that are being applied in the sanitary filter are giving false, wrong diagnoses, since they had to have it positive for coronavirus, but to return to the States States and taking the test again, this was negative.
Here the full message:
"BEWARE: New way Mexico is scamming people. My family and I were on our way to Rocky Point yesterday morning. We were selected to get tested for Covid. My husband tested positive and we were instructed to turn around and get out. On our journey home we were all scared because we have Covid and haven't had symptoms yet. When we got home we immediately went to Urgent Care to be tested for a US test. NEWS FROM BREAKING TIME We just finished receive our results and they are all negative. According to our Dr. USA stated that he does not know what kind of test MX performed, but it could be for antibodies, which means that at some point my husband could have been exposed or had Covid Some time ago I know I had pneumonia in February.So maybe you had Covid back then, but not now.
Now I'm off my resort fee, not enjoying family time on the beach, etc. Is this a new scam to control the population entering Rocky Point while earning money from the resort?
I am so happy that my family does not have Covid but at the same time I am upset that we were wrongly accused of having the virus. "
www.facebook.com/penascodiario/?ref=py_c
We experienced nearly same yesterday. Pay $37, wait 15 minutes, but result was negative. Supposedly an antibody test and if positive, home you go. You could have antibodies from months ago. Doesn't matter.
Masks seem optional. Some are wearing them, some not. Malecon was full. Mostly Mexicans. Was a lot of traffic heading north yesterday, looked like about an hour border wait. Everyone is excited about Wednesday "when things will return to normal."
Port was closed Fri, Sat, Sun due to wind.
We may make it out today.
Masks seem optional. Some are wearing them, some not. Malecon was full. Mostly Mexicans. Was a lot of traffic heading north yesterday, looked like about an hour border wait. Everyone is excited about Wednesday "when things will return to normal."
Port was closed Fri, Sat, Sun due to wind.
We may make it out today.
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Stuart said:
We experienced nearly same yesterday. Pay $37, wait 15 minutes, but result was negative. Supposedly an antibody test and if positive, home you go. You could have antibodies from months ago. Doesn't matter.
This policy is of course stupid, but for reasons including some that have never occurred to them. My wife and I have been inoculated as part of the clinical trial for the Pfizer COVID vaccine. So have about 15,000 other people so far, and then there is the Moderna vaccine trial. Half of these people are getting the actual vaccine, and the others placebo. The people who get the vaccine will develop a strong antibody response. There is a 75% chance that at least one of us will show antibodies. Of course I plan to do my own antibody testing before our next trip down and bring a ton of documents, which they would likely ignore.
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RP Life said:
This was on De Frente Sonoyta
It looks like they may start stopping you before you enter into Mexico (on the US side) to crack down on non-essential travel.
New "blockade" at the gatehouse goes to US citizens in Mexico
The ambassador, Christopher Landau, called it irresponsible to cross into the United States, taking advantage of citizenship for purchases and family visits in the midst of the pandemic
Tribune of San Luis
In his official Twitter account, the United States Ambassador to Mexico, Christopher Landau (@USAmbMex), reiterated the formation of long lines and delays at land border crossings to the neighboring country due to the actions implemented by the Customs Office and Border Protection (CBP) to facilitate “truly” essential travel.
The foregoing, after said body announced that starting this week the closure of both pedestrian and vehicular lanes would be carried out, as well as a double inspection of each user who intends to cross into the neighboring country for non-essential issues, on those with US citizenship who usually cross from Mexico to “the other side” and vice versa, making use of their legal status to make such trips.
"This weekend there were very long lines at some of the land border crossings to enter the United States from Mexico, because CPB is focusing its resources on facilitating essential travel," he said in the first lines of his message.
In that sense, he said that "it seems that many US citizens in the border region are not taking the restrictions seriously and cross in both directions for non-essential travel such as shopping, meals and family visits," which he adjudged as an aggravation of the health crisis by Covid-19.
USERS REPORT
Regarding said restrictions, users in local social networks stated that until this day the lines remained in "apparent normality"; however, there are those who have already suffered from the blockade by the US authorities, such as Josie, a netizen who shared on her personal account that “they are giving a warning on Sentri. We only have to go to Mexico out of special necessity ”, thus confirming the actions implemented in the border port.
If the USA cares that much why don't they put the pressure on Mr. idiot Manuel Lopez Obrador the president of Mexico to close his border to tourists? It seems to always work when they want Mexico to comply with something they twist his arm like on the import/export deal of the tomatoes. If they are not going to do that then leave people alone and let them travel to Mexico to do what they want instead of living in fear.
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playavader said:
If the USA cares that much why don't they put the pressure on Mr. idiot Manuel Lopez Obrador the president of Mexico to close his border to tourists?
I agree, this part of border enforcement should rest 100% with Mexico. Since the "closure" was announced a few months back, the USA does not allow Mexico visitors across the border for tourism/shopping/etc; they can only cross for a handful of "essential" reasons (medical visit, schooling, etc).
But Mexico *never* reciprocated and thus created a giant loophole; US citizens can freely cross to Mexico, and later cannot be denied re-entry back to the US, so it hasn't affected them at all. Here in Nogales the contrast is starkly visible. Mexican plates have almost entirely disappeared from the AZ side, yet for AZ natives it has been business as usual: visits to friends & family in Mexico, trips to San Carlos/PP, etc.
In the end, in spite of whatever the official line is from Mexico regarding health & safety being priority #1, I highly doubt they have any real desire to close the border. Covid may be floating across the border, but so is the almighty dollar- at this point those dollars are likely seen as too important to send back.
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It's always about the $$ and that's anywhere. Out of 100, if Covid mattered 51% vs the economy at 49%, the economy win's.
Since this is an election year, so now if Covid mattered 80% the economy would still win because problems associated with
Covid is secondary to many politicians. They may say what people want to hear, but the agenda is much different, staying in
power is all that matters. Because it's all about the $$.
Since this is an election year, so now if Covid mattered 80% the economy would still win because problems associated with
Covid is secondary to many politicians. They may say what people want to hear, but the agenda is much different, staying in
power is all that matters. Because it's all about the $$.
The essential/non-essential thing - no one stopped or asked us why we were coming into Mexico or even where we were going.
Red light/green light at the border per usual.
Red light/green light at the border per usual.
Stuart said:
The essential/non-essential thing - no one stopped or asked us why we were coming into Mexico or even where we were going.
Red light/green light at the border per usual.
Is the port open for private boats?
Buffalo Marty said:
I agree, this part of border enforcement should rest 100% with Mexico. Since the "closure" was announced a few months back, the USA does not allow Mexico visitors across the border for tourism/shopping/etc; they can only cross for a handful of "essential" reasons (medical visit, schooling, etc).
But Mexico *never* reciprocated and thus created a giant loophole; US citizens can freely cross to Mexico, and later cannot be denied re-entry back to the US, so it hasn't affected them at all. Here in Nogales the contrast is starkly visible. Mexican plates have almost entirely disappeared from the AZ side, yet for AZ natives it has been business as usual: visits to friends & family in Mexico, trips to San Carlos/PP, etc.
In the end, in spite of whatever the official line is from Mexico regarding health & safety being priority #1, I highly doubt they have any real desire to close the border. Covid may be floating across the border, but so is the almighty dollar- at this point those dollars are likely seen as too important to send back.
I have talked to people on the San Carlos pages and they said they have crossed back into Nogales through Sentri, Standard Lanes in Mariposa without anymore hassle than before the pandemic. My spouse and I are headed to SC in October so that gave us some comfort since we both have Sentri and she is was a conditional resident just renewed to a permanent resident (but they only gave her an 18 month extension letter due to the huge backlog of renewing green cards. ) She probably wont see the new physical green card till the end of next year.
C25 Doug said:
Is the port open for private boats?
Yes. We launched and went out Monday. It was blowing pretty good, but doable. Tuesday was totally blown out and the harbor captain closed the port. Sort of day by day right now due to the weather. Very strong blow from the SSE near daily.
RP Life said:
Another unhappy Tourist due to the Covid test scam at the Filter. They lost their resort money. I wonder how many more will during this holiday.
They denounce that in Puerto Peñasco sanitary filter they use false tests of Covid-19
> A tourist family exhibits the scam of these quick analyzes
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, August 30, 2020.- A family of tourists who came to this port denounced that the rapid tests that are being applied in the sanitary filter are giving false, wrong diagnoses, since they had to have it positive for coronavirus, but to return to the States States and taking the test again, this was negative.
Here the full message:
"BEWARE: New way Mexico is scamming people. My family and I were on our way to Rocky Point yesterday morning. We were selected to get tested for Covid. My husband tested positive and we were instructed to turn around and get out. On our journey home we were all scared because we have Covid and haven't had symptoms yet. When we got home we immediately went to Urgent Care to be tested for a US test. NEWS FROM BREAKING TIME We just finished receive our results and they are all negative. According to our Dr. USA stated that he does not know what kind of test MX performed, but it could be for antibodies, which means that at some point my husband could have been exposed or had Covid Some time ago I know I had pneumonia in February.So maybe you had Covid back then, but not now.
Now I'm off my resort fee, not enjoying family time on the beach, etc. Is this a new scam to control the population entering Rocky Point while earning money from the resort?
I am so happy that my family does not have Covid but at the same time I am upset that we were wrongly accused of having the virus. "
www.facebook.com/penascodiario/?ref=py_c
This might be an answer as to why, most likely, that family was unnecessarily
sent back :
COVID TEST, OVERWHELMING NUMBERS OF FALSE POSITIVES
https://canadafreepress.com/article/the-whole-scam-just-fell-apart-covid-test-overwhelming-number-of-false-posi
rplarry said:
This might be an answer as to why, most likely, that family was unnecessarily
sent back :
COVID TEST, OVERWHELMING NUMBERS OF FALSE POSITIVES
Early in the pandemic I read a very good article about the mathematical side of false positives and negatives. It made a very compelling argument against *random* testing precisely due to the prevalence of false results. Instead it recommended *targeted* testing of people either with symptoms or who had been exposed to confirmed cases.
When you test a large population of people randomly, even a test with a low incidence of false results can produce very bad data, as the false positives can overwhelm the true positives (i.e. real cases). In this scenario, there are so many false positives that it becomes hard/impossible to sort those people out from the real cases (i.e. for the purpose of contact tracing or self-quarantining)
I will post the link later if I can find it...
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playavader said:
I have talked to people on the San Carlos pages and they said they have crossed back into Nogales through Sentri, Standard Lanes in Mariposa without anymore hassle than before the pandemic.
We were one of two cars crossing Lukeville yesterday about 11:00. Asked what we had to declare.... fish and shrimp. Have a nice day and waved through. Same as it ever was.
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We came back today and agent was more interested in what's in my ice chest. Lukeville crossing agents are
not even mentioning anything about the travel restrictions. 3 trips the past month and nada about the travel restrictions
going on now. Mexico agents not enforcing it.
not even mentioning anything about the travel restrictions. 3 trips the past month and nada about the travel restrictions
going on now. Mexico agents not enforcing it.
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Stuart said:
We were one of two cars crossing Lukeville yesterday about 11:00. Asked what we had to declare.... fish and shrimp. Have a nice day and waved through. Same as it ever was.
That is good! My friend that has a house down there said that one of her Costa Rican friends got a tongue lashing going back into the states by an agent for non essential travel from Rocky Point. I guess it depends on the agent. In the facebook group they have labeled one particular agent that has a power trip. I guess many people have reported him to the Lukeville supervisors.
playavader said:
". . . one particular agent that has a power trip."
Yeah, every so often that happens over the years. Seems it's always a new recruit.
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playavader said:
That is good! My friend that has a house down there said that one of her Costa Rican friends got a tongue lashing going back into the states by an agent for non essential travel from Rocky Point. I guess it depends on the agent. In the facebook group they have labeled one particular agent that has a power trip. I guess many people have reported him to the Lukeville supervisors.
Not US citizen no entry especially coming from non essential travel in Penasco, most green card holders can not cross. Like a Norte Americano trying to get into Penasco couple months ago.
What up Life? Any Cartel news?
playaperro said:
What up Life? Any Cartel news?
I might need a Lorazepam or 2 before I can muster up the courage to open that Life.
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playaperro said:
I might need a Lorazepam or 2 before I can muster up the courage to open that Life.
Lol but seriously it's really crazy these people. For the future do you want Cartel Rated G, PG, PG13, or Crazy.
I vote crazy
RP Life said:
Lol but seriously it's really crazy these people. For the future do you want Cartel Rated G, PG, PG13, or Crazy.
I vote crazy
Just Crazy people tossed on the side of the road would be PG 13, what your friends say when you showed them that?
playaperro said:
Just Crazy people tossed on the side of the road would be PG 13, what your friends say when you showed them that?
One friend cried
others could not stomach it
only two watch till the end
and no one asked for a link to share with a friend.
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It's Friday!! Labor Day Weekend! RELEASE THE TEST RATS!!!! How many get drugs planted, pulled over for speeding, missing a stop sign that didn't exist, swimming in the wrong part of the water, not wearing mask, not wearing mask correctly???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO!!!!
GO!!!!
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Mexico Joe said:
It's Friday!! Labor Day Weekend! RELEASE THE TEST RATS!!!! How many get drugs planted, pulled over for speeding, missing a stop sign that didn't exist, swimming in the wrong part of the water, not wearing mask, not wearing mask correctly???????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO!!!!
Naomi and I did our staycation (new post) during the week, we simply will not be going out in public this weekend. The mask thing is a real concern for us as many people coming down will try to refuse wearing them when they go out and they will be dealt with accordingly and rightly so. Regardless of your stand on mask.....it doesn't matter they are mandatory everywhere in public, it is still very strict here. The line at the border coming into Mexico is several miles long already at noon on Friday, the resorts are claiming sell outs at their capacity limits. Too much new chance of catching something I don't need in my life. I hope they have fun and I hope they obey our law here, and I hope they are safe.
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mexicoruss said:
Naomi and I did our staycation (new post) during the week, we simply will not be going out in public this weekend. The mask thing is a real concern for us as many people coming down will try to refuse wearing them when they go out and they will be dealt with accordingly and rightly so. Regardless of your stand on mask.....it doesn't matter they are mandatory everywhere in public, it is still very strict here. The line at the border coming into Mexico is several miles long already at noon on Friday, the resorts are claiming sell outs at their capacity limits. Too much new chance of catching something I don't need in my life. I hope they have fun and I hope they obey our law here, and I hope they are safe.
It would be a pity to screw up and get hospitalized or worse for COVID at this point. We get our second inoculations in the Pfizer vaccine trial in ten days, and then at the end of September we will independently get antibody testing to find out who got the actual vaccine and who got the placebo. As of Monday the Pfizer trial had enlisted 23,000 of a planned 30,000 participants. The Moderna trial is at a similar place, and the AstraZenica trial is about to start big in LA. I would have some reservations about recommending one of these vaccines if the FDA is coerced to approve emergency use in October, but the data on safety and efficacy should be solid for one or more candidates by the end of the year.
Unfortunately vaccines of any sort probably won’t be available in Mexico until spring or summer of next year. Also many Americans will pass on vaccination because the disinformation campaigns will convince them it‘s dangerous or unnecessary.
Anyhow, we‘re closer to the end of this than the beginning, and if the White House wants to rush things, the integrity and litigation aversion of major pharmaceutical companies should ensure our safety. But no one, certainly no one spending a lot of time in Mexico, will be able to count on herd immunity for years, if at all. Mask up for another few months, get vaccinated when an evidence based vaccine is available, and be healthy for more seasons in the sun and surf.
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I have no problem staying away from people...
Idyllwild said:
I would have some reservations about recommending one of these vaccines if the FDA is coerced to approve emergency use in October, but the data on safety and efficacy should be solid for one or more candidates by the end of the year.
Unfortunately vaccines of any sort probably won’t be available in Mexico until spring or summer of next year. Also many Americans will pass on vaccination because the disinformation campaigns will convince them it‘s dangerous or unnecessary.
Anyhow, we‘re closer to the end of this than the beginning, and if the White House wants to rush things, the integrity and litigation aversion of major pharmaceutical companies should ensure our safety. But no one, certainly no one spending a lot of time in Mexico, will be able to count on herd immunity for years, if at all. Mask up for another few months, get vaccinated when an evidence based vaccine is available, and be healthy for more seasons in the sun and surf.
I'm not even remotely an anti-vaxxer, quite the contrary, I have 2 young boys and follow their vaccine schedules to the letter. Having said that, I don't think it is crazy at all to be be skeptical about a vaccine that is is being rushed to market compared to anything that has been previously done.
Trump obviously has political incentives to have it approved before the election, but how much "better" will the safety data be in December or January? Wouldn't part of the safety research have to consider *long-term* side effects? How can that possibly be done in this case?
I probably wouldn't have an issue giving it to myself, but to my 6 and 4 year old kids? You can call me crazy, but I'm not thrilled about that at all. And leaving anti-vaxxers or conspiracy theorists aside, I wouldn't look down on any "normal" person who feels uncomfortable about it.
I hope & pray the vaccine is both safe & effective. But even if it does work well, there is going to be a decently large percent of people who will not get it until more time passes to "prove" that it is safe- I'm guessing maybe 20-30%?
Hopefully the population of people who *do* get the vaccine right away (or who got immunity from the virus itself) will be sufficient to drive the cases down so far that covid is effectively eradicated. Maybe that's just wishful thinking though...
It will never be eradicated. The flu is not eradicated. We should get a Flu shot every September. Hopefully we will have a COVID 19 vaccination we get once a year
Buffalo Marty said:
I'm not even remotely an anti-vaxxer, quite the contrary, I have 2 young boys and follow their vaccine schedules to the letter. Having said that, I don't think it is crazy at all to be be skeptical about a vaccine that is is being rushed to market compared to anything that has been previously done.
Trump obviously has political incentives to have it approved before the election, but how much "better" will the safety data be in December or January? Wouldn't part of the safety research have to consider *long-term* side effects? How can that possibly be done in this case?
I probably wouldn't have an issue giving it to myself, but to my 6 and 4 year old kids? You can call me crazy, but I'm not thrilled about that at all. And leaving anti-vaxxers or conspiracy theorists aside, I wouldn't look down on any "normal" person who feels uncomfortable about it.
I hope & pray the vaccine is both safe & effective. But even if it does work well, there is going to be a decently large percent of people who will not get it until more time passes to "prove" that it is safe- I'm guessing maybe 20-30%?
Hopefully the population of people who *do* get the vaccine right away (or who got immunity from the virus itself) will be sufficient to drive the cases down so far that covid is effectively eradicated. Maybe that's just wishful thinking though...
Minors are not enrolled in the current clinical trials. There will be no data on safety for minors until late 2021, if then.
Risk calculations need to balance risk of vaccination with risk of injury or death from infection. The mRNA vaccines seem to be inherently safer than virus derived Vaccines.
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Idyllwild said:
Minors are not enrolled in the current clinical trials. There will be no data on safety for minors until late 2021, if then.
Risk calculations need to balance risk of vaccination with risk of injury or death from infection. The mRNA vaccines seem to be inherently safer than virus derived Vaccines.
That is a very interesting revelation you make about minors not being part of the testing- is the general public aware of that crucial fact? That would leave a huge part of the population un-vaccinated...
For example, I wonder how that would impact school re-openings? If none of the students are vaccinated, will the teachers ever agree to come back?
mexicoruss said:
Naomi and I did our staycation (new post) during the week, we simply will not be going out in public this weekend. The mask thing is a real concern for us as many people coming down will try to refuse wearing them when they go out and they will be dealt with accordingly and rightly so. Regardless of your stand on mask.....it doesn't matter they are mandatory everywhere in public, it is still very strict here. The line at the border coming into Mexico is several miles long already at noon on Friday, the resorts are claiming sell outs at their capacity limits. Too much new chance of catching something I don't need in my life. I hope they have fun and I hope they obey our law here, and I hope they are safe.
Saw some of your posts on a rare FB surf. I didn't know PDO had a pool. How much are those rooms you were showing? How do I get financing on a Mexicosis house?!
Soooooooooooo 2 hour wait at the border??????????!!!!!!!!! How long was/is the wait at the FILTER????? Sounds like a fun weekend. Heat index peaking out at 130!
So far the data shows kids have virtually no risk of being harmed by the Chinese virus. Attack the data not the messenger.
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The Covid-19 attack s kids as well as adults. Where are you getting your "data"?
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I heard there is a HUGE backup at the filter.
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TICO-T said:
The Covid-19 attack s kids as well as adults. Where are you getting your "data"?
Please tell us you have heard of the CDC ?
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Idyllwild said:
Minors are not enrolled in the current clinical trials. There will be no data on safety for minors until late 2021, if then.
Risk calculations need to balance risk of vaccination with risk of injury or death from infection. The mRNA vaccines seem to be inherently safer than virus derived Vaccines.
if it is safe, why not enroll minors ?
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Buffalo Marty said:
I'm not even remotely an anti-vaxxer, quite the contrary, I have 2 young boys and follow their vaccine schedules to the letter. Having said that, I don't think it is crazy at all to be be skeptical about a vaccine that is is being rushed to market compared to anything that has been previously done.
Trump obviously has political incentives to have it approved before the election, but how much "better" will the safety data be in December or January? Wouldn't part of the safety research have to consider *long-term* side effects? How can that possibly be done in this case?
I probably wouldn't have an issue giving it to myself, but to my 6 and 4 year old kids? You can call me crazy, but I'm not thrilled about that at all. And leaving anti-vaxxers or conspiracy theorists aside, I wouldn't look down on any "normal" person who feels uncomfortable about it.
I hope & pray the vaccine is both safe & effective. But even if it does work well, there is going to be a decently large percent of people who will not get it until more time passes to "prove" that it is safe- I'm guessing maybe 20-30%?
Hopefully the population of people who *do* get the vaccine right away (or who got immunity from the virus itself) will be sufficient to drive the cases down so far that covid is effectively eradicated. Maybe that's just wishful thinking though...
watch this debate regarding vaccines. Pro, anti, whatever you are regarding vaccines , this discussion is both educational and fascinating.
I heard parts of the city are out of beer and water!?
There are a ton of people down there this weekend, all the condo's are full. So no water and no beer is not surprising.
Water is being diverted to the Resorts and many stores have cut back on their inventory because of the uncertainty
with visitors over the next few months.
Hundred's of cars were stopped at the border at 8PM when it was closed down on Friday.
Monday should be a nightmare come back
Water is being diverted to the Resorts and many stores have cut back on their inventory because of the uncertainty
with visitors over the next few months.
Hundred's of cars were stopped at the border at 8PM when it was closed down on Friday.
Monday should be a nightmare come back
brokenwave said:
There are a ton of people down there this weekend, all the condo's are full. So no water and no beer is not surprising.
Water is being diverted to the Resorts and many stores have cut back on their inventory because of the uncertainty
with visitors over the next few months.
Hundred's of cars were stopped at the border at 8PM when it was closed down on Friday.
Monday should be a nightmare come back
I heard that as well... So where did all these people stay until 6am??? Hotel in Ajo or just camp in car outside border fence in Lukeville????!!! SOOOOOO ROUGH!!!! I would have been RAGING. I have no patience any more. How long was the back up at the FILTER??? I saw that there was another back up again this morning that looked to be substantial. @ 640am looked to be a mile approximately.... What a nightmare!!!! This is getting to be a joke at this point. I want to know if there are any reports of fake positives on the fake tests. I like how they take the filter down next week. WHO MAKES THESE DECISIONS???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seems like there were plenty who chose staying in their cars and more trying to find lodging.
Ajo motels were full early so some people went to Gila Bend and rented a room, some people went home.
I also heard a few drove to Yuma and went thru San Luis- El Golfo - Penasco which added another 6 1/2 hour drive.
Doing this at night over a route I wasn't familiar with, I would have rented in GB or gone home
and tried again early Sat.
I bet there was some partying on 85 to pass some time and work off some anger from getting stuck there for the night.
Ajo motels were full early so some people went to Gila Bend and rented a room, some people went home.
I also heard a few drove to Yuma and went thru San Luis- El Golfo - Penasco which added another 6 1/2 hour drive.
Doing this at night over a route I wasn't familiar with, I would have rented in GB or gone home
and tried again early Sat.
I bet there was some partying on 85 to pass some time and work off some anger from getting stuck there for the night.
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When the banana boat strikes back another family's story (from facebook)
Today was supposed to be a great day back to semi normality at Playa bonita resort. My family I decided to spend a weekend here with our family. After a long line at a Friday night of September 4th we finally made it, and started our day at the playa Bonita beach, since 10am, today September 5th. When we arrived all sales people were giving us great deals on their sales. After banana guy gave us a great deal of 5dls per person or 100 pesos per person, we said maybe later. After like 5 hours into our day we decided we will take the deal, the banana guy did not want to honor the sale. We said it’s ok we won’t do it. Later in the day the guy apologize and we all end up on the ride, all 9 of us had a great experience at the banana ride. One of the banana workers got into my face and asked why I was saying he said he gave us a deal and he did not like it, he was very aggressive and things got out of hands, my husband and him got into it, and the cops had to be involved. I want you guys to know about the incident we were treated very poorly and wanted you guys to know so you don’t use their services, cops did not help much. But felt like you should know, how awful they were. Be careful, the price of service was not as important the problem caused by this individual was very disgraceful, the experience for my kids and family was awful. My kids witnessed the hole incident and were crying, this was supposed to be a great vacation after a pandemic. Please make sure you watch out for them. I’m sooo sad this happened to us, we are such a hard working family that was happy to finally go and have fun, and this happens.
Today was supposed to be a great day back to semi normality at Playa bonita resort. My family I decided to spend a weekend here with our family. After a long line at a Friday night of September 4th we finally made it, and started our day at the playa Bonita beach, since 10am, today September 5th. When we arrived all sales people were giving us great deals on their sales. After banana guy gave us a great deal of 5dls per person or 100 pesos per person, we said maybe later. After like 5 hours into our day we decided we will take the deal, the banana guy did not want to honor the sale. We said it’s ok we won’t do it. Later in the day the guy apologize and we all end up on the ride, all 9 of us had a great experience at the banana ride. One of the banana workers got into my face and asked why I was saying he said he gave us a deal and he did not like it, he was very aggressive and things got out of hands, my husband and him got into it, and the cops had to be involved. I want you guys to know about the incident we were treated very poorly and wanted you guys to know so you don’t use their services, cops did not help much. But felt like you should know, how awful they were. Be careful, the price of service was not as important the problem caused by this individual was very disgraceful, the experience for my kids and family was awful. My kids witnessed the hole incident and were crying, this was supposed to be a great vacation after a pandemic. Please make sure you watch out for them. I’m sooo sad this happened to us, we are such a hard working family that was happy to finally go and have fun, and this happens.
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Mexico Joe said:
I heard that as well... So where did all these people stay until 6am??? Hotel in Ajo or just camp in car outside border fence in Lukeville????!!! SOOOOOO ROUGH!!!! I would have been RAGING. I have no patience any more. How long was the back up at the FILTER??? I saw that there was another back up again this morning that looked to be substantial. @ 640am looked to be a mile approximately.... What a nightmare!!!! This is getting to be a joke at this point. I want to know if there are any reports of fake positives on the fake tests. I like how they take the filter down next week. WHO MAKES THESE DECISIONS???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As you have stated numerous times over the past several months, “Trust the science , trust the scientists.”
They are always accurate and always looking out for your best interest Joe.
Even in an election year. Just trust them.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/update-list-dr-faucis-15-deadly-mistakes-contradictions-including-devastation-us-economy-based-garbage-model/
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Getting vicious out there (posted on Puerto Penasco Fans and Community Facebook)
COMPLAINT ⚠ Tekila Bar MX
We know there is no WATER SUPPLY in the Old Port but was it NECESSARY TO TRESPASS PRIVATE PROPERTY, DOING DAMAGE AND EVEN THREAT US JUST TO SUPPLY TEKILAS BAR WITH A WATER PIPE?
If you will only ask for permission we will give it to you, as fellow business owners desperate for water.
But you:
1. Entered without permission to our property, occupied several parking spots for our clients.
2. Left the parking lot a MESS.
3. Damage the ceiling.
4. And FINALLY bring your thugs to intimidate us??????
It is unacceptable and we are very disappointed of a business that we were proud of to be in the Old Port to behave like that.
COMPLAINT ⚠ Tekila Bar MX
We know there is no WATER SUPPLY in the Old Port but was it NECESSARY TO TRESPASS PRIVATE PROPERTY, DOING DAMAGE AND EVEN THREAT US JUST TO SUPPLY TEKILAS BAR WITH A WATER PIPE?
If you will only ask for permission we will give it to you, as fellow business owners desperate for water.
But you:
1. Entered without permission to our property, occupied several parking spots for our clients.
2. Left the parking lot a MESS.
3. Damage the ceiling.
4. And FINALLY bring your thugs to intimidate us??????
It is unacceptable and we are very disappointed of a business that we were proud of to be in the Old Port to behave like that.
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rplarry said:
As you have stated numerous times over the past several months, “Trust the science , trust the scientists.”
They are always accurate and always looking out for your best interest Joe.
Even in an election year. Just trust them.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/update-list-dr-faucis-15-deadly-mistakes-contradictions-including-devastation-us-economy-based-garbage-model/
Jesus Larry. "thegatewaypundit.com" GTFOH! Try writing a research paper in college and handing in a works cited page that included the source THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM.
RP Life said:
Getting vicious out there (posted on Puerto Penasco Fans and Community Facebook)
COMPLAINT ⚠ Tekila Bar MX
We know there is no WATER SUPPLY in the Old Port but was it NECESSARY TO TRESPASS PRIVATE PROPERTY, DOING DAMAGE AND EVEN THREAT US JUST TO SUPPLY TEKILAS BAR WITH A WATER PIPE?
If you will only ask for permission we will give it to you, as fellow business owners desperate for water.
But you:
1. Entered without permission to our property, occupied several parking spots for our clients.
2. Left the parking lot a MESS.
3. Damage the ceiling.
4. And FINALLY bring your thugs to intimidate us??????
It is unacceptable and we are very disappointed of a business that we were proud of to be in the Old Port to behave like that.
God damn Jerry and Jorge are moving on to intimidation? The only thing next is racketeering but I think they may have already started in on that too...
Where the f is DOG when you need him? Or Roberto??? Can anyone on the ground there give us a report on the water situation? So the bars in the Malecon don't even have running water?! This is soooooo rough!!!! LOL
RP Life said:
When the banana boat strikes back another family's story (from facebook)
Today was supposed to be a great day back to semi normality at Playa bonita resort. My family I decided to spend a weekend here with our family. After a long line at a Friday night of September 4th we finally made it, and started our day at the playa Bonita beach, since 10am, today September 5th. When we arrived all sales people were giving us great deals on their sales. After banana guy gave us a great deal of 5dls per person or 100 pesos per person, we said maybe later. After like 5 hours into our day we decided we will take the deal, the banana guy did not want to honor the sale. We said it’s ok we won’t do it. Later in the day the guy apologize and we all end up on the ride, all 9 of us had a great experience at the banana ride. One of the banana workers got into my face and asked why I was saying he said he gave us a deal and he did not like it, he was very aggressive and things got out of hands, my husband and him got into it, and the cops had to be involved. I want you guys to know about the incident we were treated very poorly and wanted you guys to know so you don’t use their services, cops did not help much. But felt like you should know, how awful they were. Be careful, the price of service was not as important the problem caused by this individual was very disgraceful, the experience for my kids and family was awful. My kids witnessed the hole incident and were crying, this was supposed to be a great vacation after a pandemic. Please make sure you watch out for them. I’m sooo sad this happened to us, we are such a hard working family that was happy to finally go and have fun, and this happens.
Arguing and physically fighting over a $5 banana boat ride is pretty HOT!!!! SUPER AGRO!!! Must have been pochos involved... I thought the standard price was $5 per person per ride anyways? Been that way for MILLENNIA.
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playaperro said:
I heard parts of the city are out of beer and water!?
I haven't heard anything like that.
Mexico Joe said:
Where the f is DOG when you need him? Or Roberto??? Can anyone on the ground there give us a report on the water situation? So the bars in the Malecon don't even have running water?! This is soooooo rough!!!! LOL
Water pump is broken so the malecon and other parts of the city have no water. I did mention on another post but someone run with an excuse for no water or beer.
RP Life said:
Getting vicious out there (posted on Puerto Penasco Fans and Community Facebook)
COMPLAINT ⚠ Tekila Bar MX
We know there is no WATER SUPPLY in the Old Port but was it NECESSARY TO TRESPASS PRIVATE PROPERTY, DOING DAMAGE AND EVEN THREAT US JUST TO SUPPLY TEKILAS BAR WITH A WATER PIPE?
If you will only ask for permission we will give it to you, as fellow business owners desperate for water.
But you:
1. Entered without permission to our property, occupied several parking spots for our clients.
2. Left the parking lot a MESS.
3. Damage the ceiling.
4. And FINALLY bring your thugs to intimidate us??????
It is unacceptable and we are very disappointed of a business that we were proud of to be in the Old Port to behave like that.
I think Jorge went and made things well with her and Dad, so they good.
RP Life said:
When the banana boat strikes back another family's story (from facebook)
Today was supposed to be a great day back to semi normality at Playa bonita resort. My family I decided to spend a weekend here with our family. After a long line at a Friday night of September 4th we finally made it, and started our day at the playa Bonita beach, since 10am, today September 5th. When we arrived all sales people were giving us great deals on their sales. After banana guy gave us a great deal of 5dls per person or 100 pesos per person, we said maybe later. After like 5 hours into our day we decided we will take the deal, the banana guy did not want to honor the sale. We said it’s ok we won’t do it. Later in the day the guy apologize and we all end up on the ride, all 9 of us had a great experience at the banana ride. One of the banana workers got into my face and asked why I was saying he said he gave us a deal and he did not like it, he was very aggressive and things got out of hands, my husband and him got into it, and the cops had to be involved. I want you guys to know about the incident we were treated very poorly and wanted you guys to know so you don’t use their services, cops did not help much. But felt like you should know, how awful they were. Be careful, the price of service was not as important the problem caused by this individual was very disgraceful, the experience for my kids and family was awful. My kids witnessed the hole incident and were crying, this was supposed to be a great vacation after a pandemic. Please make sure you watch out for them. I’m sooo sad this happened to us, we are such a hard working family that was happy to finally go and have fun, and this happens.
A lot of poser’s on beach selling services misrepresenting other vendors, careful out there.
playaperro said:
I think Jorge went and made things well with her and Dad, so they good.
I guess he made it right only because he got caught and called out on social media.
Did the employee get fired, that's the only way to resolve that. If not then that type of thing will always happen because your employees are a representation of you and your business and what it stands for. If it were my employees they would be fired and money taken from their pay to repair damages.
What got me was when he said he is not responsible for his employees actions (the post has since deleted so I cannot give you the exact words)
RP Life said:
Yep I just wrote the final outcome, it went from screams to new buddies just like that after she burned the place down on PP fans. They mostly family running those 3 bars. How you going to fire your brother.
playaperro said:
Yep I just wrote the final outcome, it went from screams to new buddies just like that after she burned the place down on PP fans. They mostly family running those 3 bars. How you going to fire your brother.
That made me laugh. So I guess all that gofundme donations was just for the family.
One can really make a good living from these gofundme, I am going to start my own, are you in. I think we need to start min 5 gofundme with a limit of 20K so we don't pay taxes. I just need to hire a good story writer with a specialty in Pandemic to tug on the heart strings of a few suckers. Know any
Lol
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Mexico Joe said:
Jesus Larry. "thegatewaypundit.com" GTFOH! Try writing a research paper in college and handing in a works cited page that included the source THEGATEWAYPUNDIT.COM.
Didn’t know I was writing a college research paper. But it makes sense that my professor (you Joe) would cancel me without reading my paper because you don’t like the politics of my source. Even if every point made is true.
RP Life said:
That made me laugh. So I guess all that gofundme donations was just for the family.
One can really make a good living from these gofundme, I am going to start my own, are you in. I think we need to start min 5 gofundme with a limit of 20K so we don't pay taxes. I just need to hire a good story writer with a specialty in Pandemic to tug on the heart strings of a few suckers. Know any
Lol
I see the word "suckers" popped into your head. It seems to be a favorite these days.
Kenny said:
I see the word "suckers" popped into your head. It seems to be a favorite these days.
Not my fault you donated money.
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RP Life said:
Not my fault you donated money.
Well, I am a rockypointalk supporter if that's what you mean.
Kenny said:
Well, I am a rockypointalk supporter if that's what you mean.
RP Life said:
That made me laugh. So I guess all that gofundme donations was just for the family.
One can really make a good living from these gofundme, I am going to start my own, are you in. I think we need to start min 5 gofundme with a limit of 20K so we don't pay taxes. I just need to hire a good story writer with a specialty in Pandemic to tug on the heart strings of a few suckers. Know any
Lol
I don't know if your being sarcastic but I would not contribute to any go fuk me fund, especially a bar, I don't frequent them either, I might hit up Flavios, Mary's or the one next door but I like the little Mexico taco place on the side street get shrimp tacos, Really like the point too but they built that from the money they stole from North Beach investors, sad.
I do know a little of about the investors that own the big 3. As for Joe Boo I read how he beat the hell out of a patron at Capone's just for being a smart ass so I will let his go fund account ride.
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playaperro said:
I don't know if your being sarcastic but I would not contribute to any go fuk me fund, especially a bar, I don't frequent them either, I might hit up Flavios, Mary's or the one next door but I like the little Mexico taco place on the side street get shrimp tacos, Really like the point too but they built that from the money they stole from North Beach investors, sad.
I do know a little of about the investors that own the big 3. As for Joe Boo I read how he beat the hell out of a patron at Capone's just for being a smart ass so I will let his go fund account ride.
Well said my friend I am with you on that, I would never donate to those crooks I see clearly their smoke screen.
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I never mentioned a go fund me account, or say I would or wouldn't donate to one. I only made note of the word "suckers" as I seemed to have heard that word a lot of late.
I'm just glad we opted to go earlier during the week and didn't have to experience any Holiday weekend hassle. Holiday weekends are the worst.
Oh, something I didn't mention that was new - they installed parking meters on the Malecon. Yup. Not that parking there wasn't already a huge hassle, now you get to pay for the privilege of doing so.
Fighting over a banana boat? WTF? Pure crazy!
Oh, something I didn't mention that was new - they installed parking meters on the Malecon. Yup. Not that parking there wasn't already a huge hassle, now you get to pay for the privilege of doing so.
Fighting over a banana boat? WTF? Pure crazy!
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The meters have been there awhile. Prevents the workers on the malecon from tying up all the parking.
Stuart said:
I'm just glad we opted to go earlier during the week and didn't have to experience any Holiday weekend hassle. Holiday weekends are the worst.
Oh, something I didn't mention that was new - they installed parking meters on the Malecon. Yup. Not that parking there wasn't already a huge hassle, now you get to pay for the privilege of doing so.
Fighting over a banana boat? WTF? Pure crazy!
Stuart, 9:15 Monday morning. The line is now past the bridge going over the river. Going to be a long day for people
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Got my popcorn cooking right now....
rplarry said:
Didn’t know I was writing a college research paper. But it makes sense that my professor (you Joe) would cancel me without reading my paper because you don’t like the politics of my source. Even if every point made is true.
There's a reason for that. A. This is an opinion article. Again, I don't understand what you don't understand about OP ED vs research and fact based journalism. B. The source isn't credible. So with your logic, you'd be ok quoting something from ALEX JONES? To win an argument about OPINION?! lollllllllllllll Lar!!!!!
LET'S GET BACK TO THIS DEBACLE KNOWN AS THE BORDER!!!
3 hours???? Who's got a time estimate? It's HOT out there today to be sitting in a 3 hour line... New X RAY being utilized???? My guess 100%!!!! Complete inconvenience??? Any takers on people being stranded in Sonoyta for the night??????????????
WOOOOOOOOOOOW! I've seen it all now! Jerry just posted some video on FB of a white couple in some domestic situation at an OXXO with a kid bleeding from the nose. To me it looks like the male in the driver seat just beat his kid and is in some kind of struggle with the mom at the gas station as these Mexicans video in astonishment.
Remember kids ALCOHOL is an extremely dangerous drug!!!
Remember kids ALCOHOL is an extremely dangerous drug!!!
Penasco Diario Facebook
They close the port to navigation in Peñasco
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, September 7, 2020.- Due to gusts of strong winds, the port was closed to all types of navigation, as reported by the Port Captain.
The statement details "port closed to all types of navigation, Monday 07 and Tuesday 08 south winds of 25-35 km / hr and gusts of 40-50 km / hr, Wednesday 09 north winds of 15-25 km / hr and gusts of 25-35 km / hr, Thursday 10, Friday 11, Saturday 12 and Sunday 13 windsariables of the north and northeast of 10-20 km / hr and gusts of 15-25 km / hr, it is recommended to maintain and prevent safety measures for navigation and the safeguarding of human life at sea. "It was
also reported that "The signage suggested for today on the beaches of Puerto Peñasco depending on the prevailing weather and forecast, Red Flag danger due to adverse weather conditions and Covid-19 sanitary conditions that are not recommended for activities ON BEACHES and / or aquatic, ambient temperature 31-35 ° C, temp. of sea water 29-31 ° C. ".
They close the port to navigation in Peñasco
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, September 7, 2020.- Due to gusts of strong winds, the port was closed to all types of navigation, as reported by the Port Captain.
The statement details "port closed to all types of navigation, Monday 07 and Tuesday 08 south winds of 25-35 km / hr and gusts of 40-50 km / hr, Wednesday 09 north winds of 15-25 km / hr and gusts of 25-35 km / hr, Thursday 10, Friday 11, Saturday 12 and Sunday 13 windsariables of the north and northeast of 10-20 km / hr and gusts of 15-25 km / hr, it is recommended to maintain and prevent safety measures for navigation and the safeguarding of human life at sea. "It was
also reported that "The signage suggested for today on the beaches of Puerto Peñasco depending on the prevailing weather and forecast, Red Flag danger due to adverse weather conditions and Covid-19 sanitary conditions that are not recommended for activities ON BEACHES and / or aquatic, ambient temperature 31-35 ° C, temp. of sea water 29-31 ° C. ".
Rocky Point Times Facebook
"FYI- Wed. Sept. 9th. State Health Department along with the city, will be doing FREE rapid and PCR Covid-19 testing for those who have symptoms.
Where?- Shrimp Park/Plaza starting at 9am."
"FYI- Wed. Sept. 9th. State Health Department along with the city, will be doing FREE rapid and PCR Covid-19 testing for those who have symptoms.
Where?- Shrimp Park/Plaza starting at 9am."
Be extra cautious...De Frente Facebook
Poor state of the Puerto Peñasco road - El Golfo causes accidents and damage to vehicles
* Huge potholes put travelers' lives at risk
By: Héctor Aldrete Germán
The poor condition of a section of the Puerto Peñasco - El Golfo de Santa Clara highway wreaked havoc on motorists who drove through it this weekend, causing damage to their vehicles, such as "blown" tires, damaged axles, among other damage. endangering the lives of travelers.
Just yesterday Sunday, at least a score of vehicles suffered various damages due to the large potholes that have formed in the asphalt tape of this road, being stranded in an area that also does not have a telephone signal, and added to the high temperatures, worsened their situation by seeking some help.
It is at the height of kilometer 50 towards the Gulf of Santa Clara where the high risk areas begin to appear before the huge “craters” that have been formed over time and that receive little attention from the Junta State Roads, responsible for maintaining the roads.
This weekend the "Labor Day" holiday period was celebrated in the United States, so thousands of people traveled along this highway from various parts of the neighboring country, as well as travelers of Mexican origin who also took advantage of the weekend. week to visit this tourist destination.
Poor state of the Puerto Peñasco road - El Golfo causes accidents and damage to vehicles
* Huge potholes put travelers' lives at risk
By: Héctor Aldrete Germán
The poor condition of a section of the Puerto Peñasco - El Golfo de Santa Clara highway wreaked havoc on motorists who drove through it this weekend, causing damage to their vehicles, such as "blown" tires, damaged axles, among other damage. endangering the lives of travelers.
Just yesterday Sunday, at least a score of vehicles suffered various damages due to the large potholes that have formed in the asphalt tape of this road, being stranded in an area that also does not have a telephone signal, and added to the high temperatures, worsened their situation by seeking some help.
It is at the height of kilometer 50 towards the Gulf of Santa Clara where the high risk areas begin to appear before the huge “craters” that have been formed over time and that receive little attention from the Junta State Roads, responsible for maintaining the roads.
This weekend the "Labor Day" holiday period was celebrated in the United States, so thousands of people traveled along this highway from various parts of the neighboring country, as well as travelers of Mexican origin who also took advantage of the weekend. week to visit this tourist destination.
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RP Life said:
Be extra cautious...De Frente Facebook
Poor state of the Puerto Peñasco road - El Golfo causes accidents and damage to vehicles
* Huge potholes put travelers' lives at risk
By: Héctor Aldrete Germán
The poor condition of a section of the Puerto Peñasco - El Golfo de Santa Clara highway wreaked havoc on motorists who drove through it this weekend, causing damage to their vehicles, such as "blown" tires, damaged axles, among other damage. endangering the lives of travelers.
Just yesterday Sunday, at least a score of vehicles suffered various damages due to the large potholes that have formed in the asphalt tape of this road, being stranded in an area that also does not have a telephone signal, and added to the high temperatures, worsened their situation by seeking some help.
It is at the height of kilometer 50 towards the Gulf of Santa Clara where the high risk areas begin to appear before the huge “craters” that have been formed over time and that receive little attention from the Junta State Roads, responsible for maintaining the roads.
This weekend the "Labor Day" holiday period was celebrated in the United States, so thousands of people traveled along this highway from various parts of the neighboring country, as well as travelers of Mexican origin who also took advantage of the weekend. week to visit this tourist destination.
Just thought that I might take a moment to tell you how informative, accurate and helpful that I find your posts. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
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ernesto said:
The meters have been there awhile. Prevents the workers on the malecon from tying up all the parking.
I prefer it with the meters. Usually I’m there to buy seafood, and it’s worth dropping a few pesos to park close to 3 Boys.
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Bye Bye filter, I guess you can get in Penasco from all entrances.
RP Life said:
Penasco Diario Facebook
They close the port to navigation in Peñasco
Puerto Peñasco, Sonora, September 7, 2020.- Due to gusts of strong winds, the port was closed to all types of navigation, as reported by the Port Captain.
The statement details "port closed to all types of navigation, Monday 07 and Tuesday 08 south winds of 25-35 km / hr and gusts of 40-50 km / hr, Wednesday 09 north winds of 15-25 km / hr and gusts of 25-35 km / hr, Thursday 10, Friday 11, Saturday 12 and Sunday 13 windsariables of the north and northeast of 10-20 km / hr and gusts of 15-25 km / hr, it is recommended to maintain and prevent safety measures for navigation and the safeguarding of human life at sea. "It was
also reported that "The signage suggested for today on the beaches of Puerto Peñasco depending on the prevailing weather and forecast, Red Flag danger due to adverse weather conditions and Covid-19 sanitary conditions that are not recommended for activities ON BEACHES and / or aquatic, ambient temperature 31-35 ° C, temp. of sea water 29-31 ° C. ".
Not surprised. As said earlier, it's day by day at the port right now because of the constant strong south winds.
Breaks the longstanding tradition of a solid blow for three straight days, then you'd get a couple of days where it would all lay down and was great for fishing. Right now, those windows aren't there, just blow blow blow your boat.
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Stuart said:
Not surprised. As said earlier, it's day by day at the port right now because of the constant strong south winds.
Breaks the longstanding tradition of a solid blow for three straight days, then you'd get a couple of days where it would all lay down and was great for fishing. Right now, those windows aren't there, just blow blow blow your boat.
I can't remember another summer where we had a high pressure dome sit on the state the whole summer. It never shifted to the East at all to allow the southerly flow of moisture. I swear to god and I think I can prove this if I can find the measuring station that's a couple of streets over from me on 16th st and Glendale but my condo only received 1/10" of rain this entire summer. I bet it's been 135 days approximately since I received measurable rain at this condo. A couple of weeks ago when central Phoenix and Sky Harbor finally got measurable precip my condo got the 1/10" but if you look at rain stations/gauges from 16th st and Missouri (1.75 miles away) they received almost an inch or about an inch. Just a weird summer. I really can't remember another one even remotely similar. No moisture, no rain and UNGODLY hot temps! Think about this, we had over 3 more weeks of 110+ days this summer!!! Just UNREAL!
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