Looks like lock down will continue for awhile

brokenwave

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The amount of people with CV in Penasco has increased mucho since they opened it up again in June.
My local friend who does work for me got CV from his wife who got it from her family so there are 7 in both families with it.

Penasco has reported 99 cases total so far, this instance is 7 of 99? So I'm positive there are many more cases out there.

"There are many people who have it and will only go to the Dr. when they start getting worse.
There are many who can't afford to go to the DR. and pay for the test or the drugs prescribed.
They also said don't shop at Super Ley or the Bodega. they see people who are sick still shopping there.

One friend said he saw somebody who had their temp taken waiting to go into Sam's Club who had a fever
and told to go home, they just went next door to the Walmart"


The above comments are from 2 locals I'm friends with.

Here is what my CV positive friend was prescribed, 7 meds, 2 steroids, aspirin, some citrus med's that help with iron and Vit D absorption
also some anti-biotics from what I could translate and get results back from the search.
Attached is his prescription.
Here are his symptoms. 1st few days, high fever, head ache, bone pain and loss of smell and taste,
the last 4 days, shortness of breath because his bronchial tubes were inflamed.

The Dr. told him not to work and quarantine for 14 days and until the med's are finished. He then has to take another
CV test before he can be around others. He didn't because of the cost and he had little work for 4 months
It took him 7 days to feel better and of course he goes back to work immediately.
This is the attitude is how many locals are dealing with CV.
 

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RP Life

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The cost of covid treatment in Mexico is the reason why many will die. The ones that have it can't afford to be treated so the virus keeps spreading.

Unaffordable costs

COVID-19 tests: From 1,250 pesos to 3,950 pesos

Treatment in normal bed: 435 thousand pesos

Treatment with life insurance: 222 thousand pesos

In intensive care units: 920 thousand pesos

Intubation patient: 947 thousand pesos

Outpatients: 14 thousand 449 pesos

This is one family's story
"Initially, we had to pay 300 thousand pesos as a deposit, because if it is not paid, they do not receive the patient, even if it is serious. We spent a total of 700 thousand pesos, my mother was in the hospital for 14 days, they did her studies and also intubated her, we took her to ISSSTE, but there they told us that they definitely did not have the antivirals that are being effective for COVID-19; We had to use all the family's credit cards and right now we are about to sell our cars, because we continue to pay the debt. My mother passed away on June 25 ”
 

Tec Diver

Junior Member
Brokenwave, from what I can see in that prescription the Doc prescribed the Oxital (an anticonvulsant, prescribed for partial seizure disorders in epileptic children and adults, either alone or with other medication. It reduces anxiety and mood disorders. It also controls benign motor tics (sudden movements in body lasting for a short period of time); Redoxon (Redoxon was the brand name of the first artificially synthesized ascorbic acid. Redoxon was first marketed to the general public by Hoffman-La Roche in 1934, making it the first mass-manufactured synthetic vitamin in history. The brand is now owned by German pharmaceutical company Bayer and is sold in many countries); Celestamine (Betamethasone/dexchlorpheniramine is a drug containing betamethasone and dexchlorpheniramine maleate to treat allergic conditions. Betamethasone is a steroid to relieve itches and inflammation while dexchlorpheniramine maleate is an antihistamine to treat urticarial); Aspirin ( we all know this one). Fortunately he did not prescribe any Antibiotics; taking Antibiotics for viral illness is akin to pumping diesel fuel into a gasoline burning car; in this case the Antibiotics would have a reverse effect because it would weaken his immune system that creates antibodies for fighting the virus because it would force his immune system to search and fight the bacteria that are non-existent in his body.
 

mondone

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Brokenwave, from what I can see in that prescription the Doc prescribed the Oxital (an anticonvulsant, prescribed for partial seizure disorders in epileptic children and adults, either alone or with other medication. It reduces anxiety and mood disorders. It also controls benign motor tics (sudden movements in body lasting for a short period of time); Redoxon (Redoxon was the brand name of the first artificially synthesized ascorbic acid. Redoxon was first marketed to the general public by Hoffman-La Roche in 1934, making it the first mass-manufactured synthetic vitamin in history. The brand is now owned by German pharmaceutical company Bayer and is sold in many countries); Celestamine (Betamethasone/dexchlorpheniramine is a drug containing betamethasone and dexchlorpheniramine maleate to treat allergic conditions. Betamethasone is a steroid to relieve itches and inflammation while dexchlorpheniramine maleate is an antihistamine to treat urticarial); Aspirin ( we all know this one). Fortunately he did not prescribe any Antibiotics; taking Antibiotics for viral illness is akin to pumping diesel fuel into a gasoline burning car; in this case the Antibiotics would have a reverse effect because it would weaken his immune system that creates antibodies for fighting the virus because it would force his immune system to search and fight the bacteria that are non-existent in his body.
Your resident pharmacist here- Actually he prescribed Oxital-C which is nothing more than an effervescent Vitamin C tablet. Redoxon is written here as an alternate and is an effervescent Vitamin C and Zinc tablet. Indeed the Celestamine is an antihistamine/corticosteroid combo. And the Tempra Forte is nothing more than extra strength Tylenol (acetaminophen). Nothing here is an anticonvulsant.
 

brokenwave

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Mondone and Tec Diver,
Thanks for the clarification. I guess I misunderstood him when he told me an Anti-biotic was involved.
Do you guy's have any thoughts on what he was prescribed for his Covid as helpful or not?
Thx
 

brokenwave

Well Known Member
The cost of covid treatment in Mexico is the reason why many will die. The ones that have it can't afford to be treated so the virus keeps spreading.

Unaffordable costs

COVID-19 tests: From 1,250 pesos to 3,950 pesos

Treatment in normal bed: 435 thousand pesos

Treatment with life insurance: 222 thousand pesos

In intensive care units: 920 thousand pesos

Intubation patient: 947 thousand pesos

Outpatients: 14 thousand 449 pesos

This is one family's story
"Initially, we had to pay 300 thousand pesos as a deposit, because if it is not paid, they do not receive the patient, even if it is serious. We spent a total of 700 thousand pesos, my mother was in the hospital for 14 days, they did her studies and also intubated her, we took her to ISSSTE, but there they told us that they definitely did not have the antivirals that are being effective for COVID-19; We had to use all the family's credit cards and right now we are about to sell our cars, because we continue to pay the debt. My mother passed away on June 25 ”
My local friend said he paid approx 6,000 pesos ($275) for the CV test, Dr. visit and prescriptions total.
That is a little over 1.5 weeks wages for him when he was still working.
I will over pay him for the little projects he did for me, while we were gone the last 5 months, when I see him next week.
 

mondone

Whitecaps
Mondone and Tec Diver,
Thanks for the clarification. I guess I misunderstood him when he told me an Anti-biotic was involved.
Do you guy's have any thoughts on what he was prescribed for his Covid as helpful or not?
Thx
Nothing about Vitamin C is special, though some take it for the common cold, as in "Emergen-C" powder as an immune supplement. As far as the Redoxon which contains zinc, some feel it can lessen the duration of a virus infection, but no solid proof of it. Topical zinc for use in the nasal passages is sold over the counter as a common cold treatment. Again, no proof it actually does anything.
As far as corticosteroids go, we don't routinely use them in the treatment of COVID-19 in patients who do not require supplemental oxygen. Only in those that are mechanically ventilated and in patients who require supplemental oxygen but who are not mechanically ventilated.
Antihistamine is fine if patient exhibits any sneezing, runny nose, watery eyes, etc.
Aspirin is used for fever and discomfort. Why the doc is using Tylenol along with it is not a good practice. I don't recommend using both at the same time due to liver and kidney toxicity potential.
 

InkaRoads

cronopiador
those prices for testing and hospitalization is the main reason many, if not the majority, in Mexico go home and self treat or just ride the wave and wait to see what happen, the saddest part is that the government will not do much for them either. Welcome to the real world!!!
Even at $700 pesos per test is more than most in RP make in a week or just about
 

Queen of Kings

Well Known Member
Start doling out the hydroxychloroquine. It's cheap and gets great results according to international studies and doctors who have been using it with their patients.
 

playavader

Junior Member
Start doling out the hydroxychloroquine. It's cheap and gets great results according to international studies and doctors who have been using it with their patients.
In Mexico is it possible to buy without a prescription? Have any Mexican doctors down there tried to prescribe it?
 

RP Life

Well Known Member
Kiko Munro has stated that those that test positive for Covid the municipal government will guarantee you an covid-19 kit from the 300 available, which includes masks, hand sanitizer, 1 box of Ivermectina (parasite infestations), 1 box of Azitromicina (antibiotic), 2 boxes of Paracetamol (tylenol acetaminophen).
Call Center helpline is (638) 383-6620, with four lines available, Monday-Friday hours from 8 am to 3 pm with email segcovid19pp@puerto barelyco.gob.mx
 
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mondone

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Alert on possible massive Covid-19 outbreak in Puerto Peñasco
As a result of the tourist opening of the municipality

PUERTO PEÑASCO. - The San Eduardo Clinic, through its Facebook account, warned «I see a massive outbreak coming in which we will not have the capacity to react, nor the spaces to attend to our patients, and worse still, there will not be enough medicine to cope, yes no we stop this massive relaxation.

In another message, the hospital stated “I see with sadness how people definitely do not understand even in spite of the deaths in the city and the amount of infections that we are experiencing. I hope in God to fight the battle and to be able to continue with the fight that we have led for the people even though they do not understand.

On the other hand, if we add to the messages from this clinic that the port was completely opened to tourism, after a rebound in cases and deaths from coronavirus, the result can be fatal for the inhabitants of this municipality.


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Alert on possible massive Covid-19 outbreak in Puerto Peñasco
As a result of the tourist opening of the municipality

PUERTO PEÑASCO. - The San Eduardo Clinic, through its Facebook account, warned «I see a massive outbreak coming in which we will not have the capacity to react, nor the spaces to attend to our patients, and worse still, there will not be enough medicine to cope, yes no we stop this massive relaxation.

In another message, the hospital stated “I see with sadness how people definitely do not understand even in spite of the deaths in the city and the amount of infections that we are experiencing. I hope in God to fight the battle and to be able to continue with the fight that we have led for the people even though they do not understand.

On the other hand, if we add to the messages from this clinic that the port was completely opened to tourism, after a rebound in cases and deaths from coronavirus, the result can be fatal for the inhabitants of this municipality.


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This was always going to be the most probable outcome. False sense of security that the sanitation filter was going to keep the virus out.
 

Roberto

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Fear porn .
You are one sick puppy. People are dying or I guess you think lying, and you repetitively poke your sick little saying. What are you trying to do convince everyone you know all ?? I wish you would leave town and not come back. We sure do not need sickos like you cracking jokes while people are suffering.

You have made you point at least 50 times. Isn't that enough?? We all know what you represent. Please go to a funeral of one of the victims and wander around whispering "Fear Porn" to the weeping family members. They will all be very grateful for your kindness and understanding in their time of loss. No you will not do that you are too spineless and cowardly to stand up and be proud of your beliefs publicly. Hide behind the computer..
 
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brokenwave

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Letting thousands of people into Penasco from Mexico's hot spots, ex. Mexicali and the US hot spots AZ, Texas and California
probably wasn't the greatest idea to control Covids spread into Penasco.
But without a Govt that can just spin the money printing presses like the US did what choice did they have.
A majority of the people in Mexico are much closer to the poverty level than in the US.
So you can't let people go hungry. It's a double sided blade sadly.
 

Maduro steve

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You are one sick puppy. People are dying or I guess you think lying, and you repetitively poke your sick little saying. What are you trying to do convince everyone you know all ?? I wish you would leave town and not come back. We sure do not need sickos like you cracking jokes while people are suffering.

You have made you point at least 50 times. Isn't that enough?? We all know what you represent. Please go to a funeral of one of the victims and wander around whispering "Fear Porn" to the weeping family members. They will all be very grateful for your kindness and understanding in their time of loss. No you will not do that you are too spineless and cowardly to stand up and be proud of your beliefs publicly. Hide behind the computer..
My family and I as of today know of nobody that has gotten this virus . You can wish all you want , my question to you is what in the hell you going to do when the cold and flue season hit . you will be in in lock down for ever.
 

brokenwave

Well Known Member
I hope I'm wrong, really wrong.
But I have a feeling between the seasonal Flu and round 2 of Covid it's going to be a nightmare.
Start paying attention to Europe's numbers, if you see the new cases start rising in Italy, France, UK and Germany, well that's whats going to
happen here 4-6 weeks later.
Again I really hope I'm wrong on this.
Pay attention to this site which has Europe's numbers and compare the previous 3 days, click on the Europe tab.
 

JonC

Junior Member
My family and I as of today know of nobody that has gotten this virus . You can wish all you want , my question to you is what in the hell you going to do when the cold and flue season hit . you will be in in lock down for ever.
you must not know many people the hospitals in phoenix metro are 90% full and yuma cant even handle the pandemic that they need to bus the sick to New Mexico of all places because phoenix tucson dont have the room for them. I know 4 people in sonora that caught it alone not in penasco and 3 in phx they survived but hit hard. Hopefully by fall the hospitals have a grip on it an can handle it by then.
 
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