Shore Fishing in and around Rocky Pointe

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  1. Mexico Joe

    Mexico Joe Cholla Bay 4 Life

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    Hard to believe Ford went with the 3.5 EcoBoost engine in those... It's weird to hear a twin turbo v6 in what should be American Muscle... so used to hearing a big v8 roaring! Either way I still love those damn things but I get a bad taste in my mouth when I see people driving them that have absolutely no idea what they are driving other than their husband thought it looked cool... and I'll definitely be down again in May. Cheers!

    You ever watch Motor Trend? David Freiburger hates ethanol gasoline... apparently the ethanol gasoline just destroys internal parts and leaves a green film over everything. Especially when you let ethanol sit in the tank/carb and engine for a while without use.... I love that show Engine Masters as well as HotRod Garage and Roadkill....
     
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  2. Jungle Jim

    Jungle Jim Well-Known Member

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    Well Joe...........

    When that awesome sounding 450 horse twin turbo V-6 spools up in the Sport Mode, it'll do zero to sixty in about FIVE SECONDS! Well over 100 mph. in less than a half mile, and it actually IS Mrs. Willy's birthday truck. She'll hang on while I've got it in the Baja Mode and that thing blows over the tops of ten foot whoops at 110 mph. in 4x4. Your souped up truck looks pretty cool with that new front suspension although I'm sure I'll leave you in the dust in about ten seconds. Did you check out the vid below in Off Topic with BJ Baldwin in his 2WD whatever truck in Havana? That, I must say was quite a production. I must have watched it ten times now.

    The other shit thing about ethanol is that It can hold a massive amount of water suspended in invisible droplets that gets run through your engine and screws up a whole lot more parts to include metal fuel tanks, aluminum fuel pumps and carburetors and who knows what else in the engine itself. Ever see the puddles of water coming out of your tailpipe when you start up? That my friend is known as a full scale criminal ripoff, I thought they were selling us gasoline, not 10% or 20% agua.

    I have two quart sized water/fuel separators, one for each Yami on my boat. I normally dump em out every twenty or so hours of operation and have never seen more than a peanut sized drop of water in them. Last November I had a total failure on engine number 2, luckily only ten miles out and puttered back on number 1. When back to Mirador I pulled em off and dumped them only to see each one half full of water and the rubber seal at the top of each one swelled up so much that I couldn't reinstall them.

    The green film you mention above is the dissolved inner linings of fuel hoses, and yes everything from the tank back was covered with it.

    Later,

    JJ
     
  3. Salty Josh

    Salty Josh New Member

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    Last time I fished off of it there were no guards and later in the day more people came to fish. I personally probably caught atleast 20+fish off the jetti that day
     
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  4. Mexico Joe

    Mexico Joe Cholla Bay 4 Life

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    JJ

    I love your stories but Im calling bullshit on this! Ten foot woops my ass... lmfao.

    I do enjoy your hyperbole however, sometimes it's hard to say for certain if you're kidding... all the trophy trucks have 36" of suspension travel and they couldnt blow through 10 ft woops in at 110 and although I think Raptor's are COOL they are not the performance beasts that many NEWBS think they are... check out youtube of all these DONKEYS thinking their RAPTOR is race ready stock and come to find out they destroy the vehicle jumping it or thrashing it. They are great for what they are but I doubt the stock geometry is getting more than 14" of wheel travel in the front and similar in the back.... I dont doubt the 0-60 numbers but 10 ft woops at 11o had me spitting beer all over my computer screen...

    BJ Baldwin won two straight 1000's back to back and then fell off... I think he's hanging out with his deuch bag friend Dan Bilzerian too much... I like BJ Baldwins driving style but he seems like a tool in real life.... good videos though.
     
  5. Jungle Jim

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    Hey Joe..........

    Ten feet between the tops of the ruts on a washboard road is about half the length of the truck. Any vehicle with enough speed 2WD or 4WD can run right over that. I have in fact had this truck airborne with all four wheels off of the ground several times now, it's nothing as the truck was designed for it. The videos that you refer to are the old Gen1 vehicles, the new Gen2 is a totally different truck. There are at least a half dozen videos of the new truck in full aerial mode. Even FoMoCo has shots of totally stock trucks jumping up north at the Dumont Dunes. I've now had this truck up to 125 mph. and still not full balz-out. I just built up all six wheels fully Ford factory beadlocked, so I have no qualms at all doing high speeds off of the road. If I see you down in RP anytime soon I'll take you out for a spin, just don't spit yer dern beer on my computer screen.

    JJ
     
  6. Mexico Joe

    Mexico Joe Cholla Bay 4 Life

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    First time the truck hit dirt after the Long Travel kit was installed.... 70mph looks like 30...




     
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  7. Landshark

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    Sweet! Was that Russ you ran off the road?? LOL
     
  8. Mexico Joe

    Mexico Joe Cholla Bay 4 Life

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    GOD I hope not! Sorry Russ! I think even Russ would admit that was warranted.... JJ donde estas? Donde estan las fotos de la troka de tuyo? No tienes video? Let's go head to head, mono yo mono, verga y verga....
     
  9. Jungle Jim

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    Mex-Joe..........

    Tryin to xfer the vid, Yo soy muy estupido. Possible en la tarde.

    Then I'll show you a thing or two!

    Today I'm replacing ALL of the dissolved fuel lines on my Yammies in hopes of a fish kill next weekend. You gonna be there?

    JJ
     
  10. Mexico Joe

    Mexico Joe Cholla Bay 4 Life

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    Yep! I took Friday off of work so Ill be there Friday through Sunday...

    Wind report is starting to look like MIERDA... Friday looks good, Saturday potentially doable, Sunday forget about it!
     
  11. Jungle Jim

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    I'll give you a heads-up mid next week.

    If the winds do look like 100% shit-fer-boatin, I'll bring my Raptor, maybe we can do a little haulin ass on the old Cholla road.

    JJ
     
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  12. Jungle Jim

    Jungle Jim Well-Known Member

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    Yo Joe..........

    The potential for catching anything related to any type of pescado this weekend will be hopeless with this wind and rain continuing for at least two more days. The waters off of PP will take at least another week to calm down and clear up.

    So...........................

    We will be conducting our first 2017 Gen2 Ford Raptor Sonora Off Road Ops. You still planning on coming down this weekend? My shack is in Mirador at the El Pueblo Condos just past Capones. You can call me via my Mex cell #928-941-0344 iffin you wanna do some high speed sand and gravel pitchin. Ever run the old Whiplash race track from the Desert Oasis back into the hills east and south? Even the old Cholla Road will get us some speed. I'm planning on doing the run south past El Desemboque on Sat or Sun to cross the Rio Caborca river bed and do some beach combing on south.

    Lemmie know!

    JJ
     
  13. Mexico Joe

    Mexico Joe Cholla Bay 4 Life

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    I dont know how I didnt see this post last week! I went down and tried anyways and I didnt even get one bite... Im talking NOTHING! Not even a measly rock bass... The SADR Tequila 150 was this past weekend and because it was windy I went and checked it out Saturday morning... I had the kayak in the truck and nowhere to keep it to fully enjoy the truck... I did tie the kayak down a little better this time and got the truck up to 80mph down the old Cholla road. So plush. I want to feel the truck without the kayak and tailgate bouncing around back there lol

    Wish I would have seen your post last week JJ as I would have been in for some exploring... I never really get the opportunity to do anything else besides go fishing in Cholla Bay and maybe hit a bar or two at night but the past few trips I was in bed both nights by 10pm.... Guess Im getting old!
     
  14. Jungle Jim

    Jungle Jim Well-Known Member

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    Well Joe................

    You didn't miss much. On Saturday we did a Ford Raptor road trip south to Caborca then to Pitiquito. Bought six big bunches of fresh picked asparagus at 10 pesos a bunch and a sack of twenty fresh picked peaches at 25 pesos at a roadside stand on the outskirts of Caborca. Once in town we checked out the old mission and the nearby prison where the Kiki Camarena DEA agent was murdered when the property was a narco hacienda. Checked out the outrageous "HIGH" rent district where the drug money maintains some serious mansions. Then on to the next little burg of Pitiquito where more drug money maintains some really outrageous "RANCHOS" deluxe. Did a forty mile off-road run into the so-called Bighorn Sheep and trophy Deer "SANCTUARY" where we saw dozens of "FEEDING STATIONS" where the animals are lured and fed on a daily basis until they are shot like pigs at a slaughter house when their horns are suitably large enough for a well paid "TROPHY" kill.

    Then back to the road north where we finally located the old Fish Truck Road to Puerto Lobos. Ran the paved part about twenty miles then turned around to save it for another day in my Jeep Wrangler next month. Hit the Mayan Palace for a couple of stiff magaritas for the last km's back home.

    Woke up Sunday morning to hurricane force winds so decided to head to Cholla Bay for some clam digging. Caught about fifty of the pesky little shits then on to JJ's for some fish tacos. Ran the rough Old Cholla Road back to PP at a sustained 100mph. like it was a slick parking lot. Steamed up the sweet almejas along with shrimp and asparagus sauted in olive oil for dinner, found a pearl in one of the clams. Wasn't sure if it was a broken tooth or a real clam pearl. Went out to the Mirador beach to take a look at the tide pools in front of the Granada Del Mar only to find that all of the rocks and pools had been completely inundated with sand from the winds and storms last week. The old concrete boat launch is actually useable now! The hookers and transvestites in front of the "G Spot" were looking very lonely that night.

    Monday morning I watched a Raven snatch a baby Eurasian Collared Dove from a nest in a power pole in front of the condo. The mom chased after him to no avail. Ravens are some really smart birds.

    Did a consistent 100mph. run to the border on Monday on the Coastal Highway and made it in a little over two hours, then a two hour wait in line to cross back into the USSA.

    JJ
     
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  15. dirtsurfer

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    Alright: a completely dumb question but I admit my naivety . How does one dig for clams? What do you look for and what do you do?
     
  16. SunDevil

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    just take a rake and a bucket. start raking the sand. when your rake hits something that feels like a rock, BINGO!!! the farther south you go and the deeper you rake, the bigger the clams will be. that at least has been my experience. OR you can just go down to the fish market and buy a bag of clams for $5 and skip getting your rake all rusty. instead, get a outdoor table at JJs and enjoy the morning watching all the low tiders out in Cholla Bay. Either way you will have a great day. Beats work!!!
     
  17. Jungle Jim

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    Digging for clams..........

    The "digging" term is not really the method that I use to "catch" them. Actually it involves more "scraping" than digging. I take a good quality six foot long steel headed garden rake, the ones that are around 14" to 16" wide with tines up to 4" long. I modify the rake into a clam harvester with the use of an electric grinder by cutting the tines into thin knife like "Freddy Kruger" blades.

    Clams of at least a dozen species abound on all of the shores of Bahia Adair to include Bahia La Choya. Each of those clam species has it's own preference for bottom composition (substrate), intertidal water depth and intertidal exposure to the desert heat and cold. The mud and sand flats exposed during the daily extreme low tides in front of JJ's Cantina and eastward around the bay are the preferred habitat of two species of delicious clams that number in the millions. They are the Chiones or Hard Shelled Cockles. The larger Chione californiensis prefers deeper water sand flats while the smaller Chione cortezi prefers the uppermost beach loose gravel flats. The larger one is easy to identify by its chalky white shell halves with heavy concentric ribs and the smaller one with glossy smooth shell halves and dark blue to black edges. The smaller C. cortezi has the sweetest meat of any clam that I have ever collected.

    So, what you will need to do is "test" scrapes. As I walk out following the receding tide I do two foot long scrapes with the tines of the rake digging in maybe an inch deep. As I pull the rake towards me I will get "hits" most will be old dead shells and rocks but every so often it will be a more solid "thud". When I get the thud I back up the rake and dig deeper just in front of where I felt the thud. Nine times out of ten it will be a nice fresh clam. Their numbers vary depending on how heavily the area has been exploited or ignored. Sometimes I'll get two or three with each scrape other times only one in four or five scrapes. You will want to do a little exploring in order to find some good "clam beds".

    When I'm just gathering enough for dinner I'll usually target the sweet C. cortezi closer to the beach. If I'm going to do a "meat run" I'll follow the receding tide out a half mile or more for C. californiensis.

    Using the rake is not the only method for finding them. As the tide recedes the currents will expose live clams that you can just pick up. When the water is just a few inches deep you can dig around with your toes or fingers and locate quite a few. Or you can do it "sting ray style" and just pick a shallow spot, sit down and start scraping out a hole maybe six inches deep and as wide as you can reach with your hands or a small hand held four pronged garden cultivator, using this method you will unearth many larger clams that the rake would have missed. Also, be prepared for the foot long Sand Eels that might end up inside your shorts between your legs.

    So, besides your rake you should have some sort of mesh net collecting bags and a bucket or two. On a meat run I'll usually gather several hundred clams that might weigh in at fifty or more pounds. We will sling the bag in the middle of the rake then shoulder the rake between us for the long walk back. As you collect your clams you should let them settle down in the sea water in a bucket or the bag, this will allow them to expel sand and poop that would otherwise end up in your steamer and mouth.

    Back at the barn I use three methods to prepare them for chow. If it's a small load for immediate consumption I use a small pot with a veggie steamer sitting in a half inch of water, I keep an eye on them till they just start to open up then turn off the heat they will continue to cook and cool and eventually all will open up and be ready to pick out and dip in some lemon butter. If I have a good load of the larger C. californiensis I'll fire up my steel barbie pit with Mesquite or Ironwood and once the flames die down I'll put the grill on top and just place the clams over the heat. In a few minutes they will open up after being steamed in their own delicious juices. A drip of fresh lime or some salsa casera will top off the scrumptious little critters as you slurp them out of their shells.

    Meat run prep is a more organized operation, especially if you have a hundred or more. I use a two bigger pots and steam them until the shells are wide open then dump them into the sink, after they are cool enough to handle I'll pick them out and bag them into Food Saver bags the vac pack them to freeze and haul back home to Yuma where I jazz up canned clam chowder with them.

    So there!

    Good hunting.

    JJ
     
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  18. Roberto

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    On a good day near La Pinta they will be pissing up in the air at low tide.
     
  19. Steven Conners

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    I stay at la Princessa and when the tide goes out there are tons of holes in the sand and you can see sand/water getting pushed up. Are those clams? I have dug down trying to find something with no success.

    Thinking about clamming at Encanto next time I'm down there. Is that that good place? Lots of sand and the tide recedes very far on the flats.
     
  20. Jungle Jim

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    Hello Steve............

    Those holes are the exit current holes of the U-shaped burrows of Tube-Dwelling Polychete Worms. Take the time to dig one out, if you have the energy, you WILL be surprised! Depending on the species and the age of the worm the burrow water current entrance and exit might be three feet or more apart and two or three feet deep. The resident is a segmented worm that might be a foot long and makes excellent bait. I've seen Mexican worm diggers down by El Golfo de Santa Clara using a bicycle tire pump pushed into one end of the burrow then they pump like crazy to blow them out of the other end. Of course they are collected commercially for the ChiCom cave man retard market as an expensive weenie extending delight. How they apply it is something I'd rather not see.

    Anyway, the worm burrows are deep enough in the sand to still have water to circulate when the tide is out, they need this for their oxygen requirements and when the tide floods back it is their feeding method. About half of their body is made up of many segmented flap like valves that brings a steady current of water from one end then out the other end. They like many animals on the sand and mud flats feed on small planktonic organisms and algae. They glue the sand along the sides of their burrows with mucus to form a parchment like tube that gives them their other name Parchment Worms. Sometimes after storms you will see them washed up on the beach.

    As Roberto mentions above, look for the "pissing in the wind". Not always but sometimes this will be one of several clams that "feel" your foot steps heading their way and do the "squirt" as they pull themselves deeper into the sand or mud. If you can concentrate on the exact spot where the squirt originated you might be rewarded with a nice Razor Clam or the Gulf variety of the Pismo Clam. Again, some serious digging will be required.

    Good digging!

    JJ
     
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