Miramar, I'm assuming your permanent Mexican residency card puts you in a different position from sport fishermen and other tourists. I'll be curious if you're asked to show your residency card immediately when you cross the border. Would be grateful for a report on what experiences you have and at what points along the way you have them.
From the Washington Post today: Essential cross-border workers like healthcare professionals, airline crews and truck drivers are still permitted to cross. Truck drivers are critical as they move food and medical goods in both directions. Much of Canada’s food supply comes from or via the U.S.
Americans who are returning to America and Canadians who are returning to Canada are also exempted from the border closure.
I believe the rest of us are shut out of the country at least until June 20. If so, I would expect someone like myself, who does not meet the above criteria or own property in Mexico, to be turned around immediately by the first officials I meet after getting the green light at the border. Apparently that's not the case. What kind of border closure is that?
Advice from a contact in Puerto Lobos: Drive from Sonoyta through Caborca and expect to be looked at hard at a major check point along the way. Don't have anything in your vehicle (fishing rods, etc.) suggesting you've come down to have fun.
Looks like things are heating up on the COSTERA... you still like the odds in LOBOS? As long as I live, I'm in!
Audsley, we've never been asked to show our permanent resident card when entering Mexico. We're planning on leaving (depends on work) in a few hours so I'll let you know what happens crossing the border and leaving Sonoyta to Miramar.
It is mentioned that this Monday the thermal cameras would be installed to start receiving the residents.
They are asking us about the quick tests, whether they will have any costs and about the entry of visitors. ... We don't know all the answers at this time.
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* Unofficial information. To confirm, please contact 638 388 5152 of the Municipal Health Coordination, or go to the health filter for information.
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(Puerto Penasco) As for the 2,000 tests that the municipal government was going to buy and collect 1,800 pesos, the order was apparently cancelled.
Instead they will apply thermal thermometer to the tourist or visitor, and in case of showing fever will be applied quick tests of the 400 that are already here, which are free and their result is immediate.
If the positive result persists, the visitor will not be allowed in and they will be advised to return to their place of origin to be treated.
If even with a fever it is negative for covid in the rapid test, you will be suggested to treat the problem caused by your fever.
If you are a resident of Puerto Peñasco and test positive, you will be sent for your recovery and medical observation to a hotel in Puerto Peñasco which is being specially enabled for that, where you must pay half the cost of the room.
As well, samples will be taken to confirm the result of the rapid test by sending them to the state lab.
Covid-19 tests conducted at visitors' places of origin are not supported.
Currently, we understand that domestic or foreign residents are not allowed entry until they quarantine the outskirts of the city, opting to ask for accommodation in various external locations and ranches near the filter, such as the Hacienda de Cortés fractionation. Camp-breed Lomas, etc.
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Tourists and visitors are expected to be received from June 16 if no complications arise. The health filter and the sanitizing tunnel (or disinfectant) will continue to function at least until that day, depending on the evolution of the pandemic,
The beaches are closed by federal regulations. They will be opened when authorized by the Government of Mexico.
That's likely to happen after June 16 with health measures, but it's not safe. Nothing is certain, because it is as a result of the evolution of the pandemic.
Basic schools will no longer open for the remainder of this school calendar. Students will finish their cycle at home. In general, higher schools are not calling students to take entrance exams.
Anyone who is caught dealing with people to put them into the city because of the gaps evading the flter will be prosecuted.
As far as it's been reported, no passenger trucks are entering the city.
The municipal government resumed work in its premises, while taking the necessary health measures. The opening of state and federal government offices are subject to the decision of these levels of government.
Non-suppliers wishing to enter goods into the city cannot enter, but may deliver them to their recipients in the filter, in the opinion of those responsible for the operation. They are advised to consult before doing so
May 25th - Puerto Peñasco Municipal Health Coordinator Dr. Oscar Castro announced on the program Ahora Noticias on La Reyna Del Mar Radio this morning considerations that would allow full-time residents (with proof of ID, and coming to remain at their homes - i.e. not for vacation) to return to the city prior to Phase III of the city's reopening plan (anticipated for June 16th). HOWEVER, this will not go into effect until thermal cameras are set up at the northern entrance to... town (NOT YET) and is strictly meant to "help reunite families that are Peñasco residents, who for one reason or another were not all in Puerto Peñasco when the roadblock measures initially went into effect." Additional clarification on details to come as to entry process once the thermal cameras are in place as there will be a 10 day window for Puerto Peñasco full-time residents to return home (under strict health protocols). For more information and updates, follow Gobierno de Puerto Peñasco
So who's taking bets how long the line/wait will be at this thermo scan checkpoint north of town when RP reopens for visitors? Be it June 16 or another day. This is the part I was worried about. Mexico isn't really the ideal model for organization. I fear that future trips will be 5 hours one way, lots of waiting in line. Going south, 21 questions at the border, 21 questions and lifting of a few $20's by the Mexican National Guard. Then the Sonoyta cops haven't gotten greased in a while so maybe another FIN ($5) or so... now you're on your way! Rocky Point, 1 hour wait at the sanitary check for your temperature that you haven't had in 57 weeks.... Now the vacation starts! 36 hours later you're going North and the Americans are asking the same shit 3 more times!!!! YIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! Cant wait!
Actually, the Sonoyta cops have behaved quite well after the first week of lockdown, where they seemed to have been asking for money which we didn't give them. We haven't been stopped, and since we keep our speed at 24mph or less, haven't been pulled over for speeding.
I have it on pretty good authority that the city is looking into options to permit entry of residents with proof of residency as soon as June 6 IF the thermal camera is up and working by then. This would not affect tourists who do not have proof of residency. The date off June 16 still applies to non residents assuming phase 3 happens on schedule.
I have it on pretty good authority that the city is looking into options to permit entry of residents with proof of residency as soon as June 6 IF the thermal camera is up and working by then. This would not affect tourists who do not have proof of residency. The date off June 16 still applies to non residents assuming phase 3 happens on schedule.
However we have not been informed as to when beaches and pools reopen as of today.
Things have changed again in the last 30 minutes..Federal says States do not have right to determine a reopen date. Hang on....
Cases are surging in De EF-AY... hopefully it doesn't push back the reopening. WE HAVE MONEY TO BURN! I'm talking, the whole right side of my pant leg is on fire.
On Monday morning, May 25th, Puerto Peñasco Municipal Health Coordinator, Dr. Oscar Castro Castro joined broadcaster José Antonio Pérez of La Reyna del Mar to discuss steps underway that could pave a way for city residents to return to town sooner than originally forecast, though still under strict health protocols. Dr. Castro emphasized such steps are meant to help reunite families that are Peñasco residents, who for one reason or another were not all in Puerto Peñasco when the roadblock measures went into effect in early April. He did not specify an exact date as to when this could happen.
The possibility for Puerto Peñasco residents to gain access to town will depend on the use of thermal cameras being set up at the roadblock area north of the city, ability to provide proof of address (CFE / TelMex or other utility bills, INE (voter ID card), confirmation that people are coming to stay in their homes (or rather, notfor vacation in the case of foreign individuals who may have a residence here), and following all city health guidelines still in place (use of masks, curfew, only essential outings, etc.). In addition, steps will be in place regarding additional rapid-testing on site for individuals that may present higher temperatures as detected by the thermal cameras. The proposed date for visitors to town is still tentatively for when the city enters Phase III (anticipated for June 16th if the first two phases go well).
As of Wednesday, May 27th, the three thermal cameras (2 portable and 1 stationary) were not yet in operation. Dr. Castro stressed this announcement is based on wanting to provide a way for families – many of whom have been separated for over two months – to have a way to be reunited. This will apply to both returning Mexican and foreign nationals who are full-time city residents, and will be staying at home. Any healthy resident able to return if/when this proposed strategy goes into effect is urged to quarantine themselves at home for a minimum period of 12 days. Dr. Castro explained, “Supposedly, these are individuals who want to return home to be with their families and no longer be separated, not to be going ou Mexico’s “New Normal”
It is important to remember, in Mexico’s “New Normal” the Federal Alert system (stoplight) , which goes into effect on June 1st, will determine how different states in Mexico can gradually reopen. As of May 25th, Sonora – and therefore Puerto Peñasco – was designated in “yellow” yet with a rising number of cases (red triangle); these designations will continue to be evaluated and announced weekly by the Federal government. Federal Alert system per region regarding activities during Coronavirus
Red – Only essential activities, expanded solely to construction, mining, and vehicle manufacturing. Maximum care/stay at home for vulnerable individuals (those with chronic illnesses and older individuals)
Orange – In addition to the above, activities not deemed essential but at a reduced level, reopening of public spaces at a reduced level (outdoor), and ongoing attention for vulnerable individuals (those with chronic illnesses and older individuals) in returning to workforce as appropriate
Yellow – In addition to the above, resuming all essential / non-essential businesses, opening of public spaces (outdoor), and opening of indoor public spaces at reduced capacity (museums, churches, movie theaters), ongoing attention to vulnerable populations though they also may return to workforce
Green – That listed above, as well as resuming of educational sector with children and teachers in schools (per school year calendar)
On Monday morning, May 25th, Puerto Peñasco Municipal Health Coordinator, Dr. Oscar Castro Castro joined broadcaster José Antonio Pérez of La Reyna del Mar to discuss steps underway that could pave a way for city residents to return to town sooner than originally forecast, though still under strict health protocols. Dr. Castro emphasized such steps are meant to help reunite families that are Peñasco residents, who for one reason or another were not all in Puerto Peñasco when the roadblock measures went into effect in early April. He did not specify an exact date as to when this could happen.
The possibility for Puerto Peñasco residents to gain access to town will depend on the use of thermal cameras being set up at the roadblock area north of the city, ability to provide proof of address (CFE / TelMex or other utility bills, INE (voter ID card), confirmation that people are coming to stay in their homes (or rather, notfor vacation in the case of foreign individuals who may have a residence here), and following all city health guidelines still in place (use of masks, curfew, only essential outings, etc.). In addition, steps will be in place regarding additional rapid-testing on site for individuals that may present higher temperatures as detected by the thermal cameras. The proposed date for visitors to town is still tentatively for when the city enters Phase III (anticipated for June 16th if the first two phases go well).
As of Wednesday, May 27th, the three thermal cameras (2 portable and 1 stationary) were not yet in operation. Dr. Castro stressed this announcement is based on wanting to provide a way for families – many of whom have been separated for over two months – to have a way to be reunited. This will apply to both returning Mexican and foreign nationals who are full-time city residents, and will be staying at home. Any healthy resident able to return if/when this proposed strategy goes into effect is urged to quarantine themselves at home for a minimum period of 12 days. Dr. Castro explained, “Supposedly, these are individuals who want to return home to be with their families and no longer be separated, not to be going ou Mexico’s “New Normal”
It is important to remember, in Mexico’s “New Normal” the Federal Alert system (stoplight) , which goes into effect on June 1st, will determine how different states in Mexico can gradually reopen. As of May 25th, Sonora – and therefore Puerto Peñasco – was designated in “yellow” yet with a rising number of cases (red triangle); these designations will continue to be evaluated and announced weekly by the Federal government. Federal Alert system per region regarding activities during Coronavirus
Red – Only essential activities, expanded solely to construction, mining, and vehicle manufacturing. Maximum care/stay at home for vulnerable individuals (those with chronic illnesses and older individuals)
Orange – In addition to the above, activities not deemed essential but at a reduced level, reopening of public spaces at a reduced level (outdoor), and ongoing attention for vulnerable individuals (those with chronic illnesses and older individuals) in returning to workforce as appropriate
Yellow – In addition to the above, resuming all essential / non-essential businesses, opening of public spaces (outdoor), and opening of indoor public spaces at reduced capacity (museums, churches, movie theaters), ongoing attention to vulnerable populations though they also may return to workforce
Green – That listed above, as well as resuming of educational sector with children and teachers in schools (per school year calendar)
Mayor says thermal cameras are set up and ready to go, residents that were displaced from family will be accepted at sanitary stop, with proof of residency.
Now the big question, I owned in Cholla for years and visit Cholla 6-8 weeks per year.
Will I be allowed to get thru the screening with any of the following CFE bill, property tax statement, home insurance policy,
auto insurance policy? I Don't have a perm res card yet. Thoughts? Thx
Please note that we will be updating this on Thursday morning with more specific details.
Rocky Point's Thermal Cameras have arrived and if you are a resident of Puerto Peñasco you are now able to return home!
Upon entering the city, you must first prove your residency and then your temperature will be taken. If your temperature is normal, you will then proceed to the Sanitization Tunnel to have yourself, your vehicle, and your belongings completely sanitized.
EVERYONE IN THE VEHICLE MUST HAVE A NORMAL TEMPERATURE TO BE ALLOWED THROUGH!
IF YOU OR ANYONE RIDING WITH YOU IS SICK OR FEELING UNWELL, DO NOT COME TO ROCKY POINT!
After you have completed these steps, you will then be given recommendations to quarantine at home for 14 days.
The Mayor has emphazised that if protocols and rules are not followed, you will be subjected to fines.
Starting today, May 27th, residents will have 10 days to return home. So, you will need to be in Puerto Peñasco on or by June 5th. This pertains to residents who can prove their residency ONLY...at this time.
Everyone who returns home must abide by the safety protocols and rules in place (ie: wearing a mask in public, keeping a safe distance from others, no congregating, no more than 2 people per vehicle, etc.).
Our Mayor has said that if new cases start to develop, and/or citizens do not follow the sanitary protocols/rules, the phases to reopen will be cancelled and everyone will have to stay home.
He also emphasized that he will be intolerant to anyone that exposes the health of the citizens of Puerto Peñasco! A mask is required in public, so if you want to go out - you MUST wear a mask. If not, you will need to stay home.
Once again the beach is still CLOSED at this time!
Our Mayor has said that if new cases start to develop, and/or citizens do not follow the sanitary protocols/rules, the phases to reopen will be cancelled and everyone will have to stay home.
Would be nice if the laws, regulations were enforced equally across the board. They are not. Still lots of people walking the streets with no mask but usually a filthy rag and white bucket.
Decided to try the new DQ in the hope that they would offer MMMMM butterscotch. Nope, no hay. But while in line waiting at the back of the building a guy with a filthy rag and no mask jumped up and started shouting at me, waving the rag. I gave him my best imitation German in reply and tried to ignore him. He kept it up even after I had my purchase and had paid, giving me the Mexican hand sign for 'Cheapy" as i drove away. Employees were watching the drama but said nothing. I won't go back.
Stopped at Mini Ley yesterday, came out and yes there was a fellow, sin mask, rub rub rubbing a spot on the windshield. I sensed stopping there was a mistake but they do a good job on entry and exit at the door. I have given money to an unsolicited car washer one time in 15 years. Recalling this as the location of the last uninvited, infected visitor I wanted out of there fast. Guy kept the filthy rag rubbing, rubbing same spot. Wondering if this was the partner of the guy who was diagnosed, I babbled in my best psudo German and he started shouting about me being a rich America. Feeling intimidated I reached into the change cup grabbed what amounted to 50 pesos and backed out while he shouted at me. A small group had assembled and were watching. OK Mini Ley goes off the list. Why does the management permit this? I fully admire folks trying to make a living but they do not get to set the rules. Is there a union protecting these people. None that I have seen display the so called required vendor card. but according to the mayor these workers can cause the cancellation of the reopening.
I made a choice to live here some18 years ago and I have to say I am regretting my selection. Living in a resort town with no apparent equality. If I only came to party fine.
He (the Mayor) also emphasized that he will be intolerant to anyone that exposes the health of the citizens of Puerto Peñasco! A mask is required in public, so if you want to go out - you MUST wear a mask. If not, you will need to stay home.
I had a similar experience at Rocky Point Imports a couple of weeks ago. When I pulled in an aggressive guy wanted to wash my clean truck. I said don’t touch it and made some very clear hand gestures and probably said no lavor or similar. When I came out he had not washed the truck but he started yelling as I pulled out, and he tried to follow or stop me. I wasn’t having any of it.
I'd want to kill myself after a few weeks of that. I usually reach in the cup holder where I have collected years worth of pesos and just dish out a bunch of random .2 pesos which equates to .20 or something and be done with them. They always make the window worse than it was and I HATE people touching my truck. Apparently you have to pay for PROTECTION now when you park in the Malecon. Heyyyy amigo, yo miro la troka para ti pues.... that will be $5! Like huh????? !!!!! This is public parking. I had a guy get pissed that I parked in front of the Boo Bar and didn't want to pay the "protection" fee and he threatened or straight told me that next time my LED lights would be gone when I come back. I said DALE PUES!!! I give out enough money and tip 20% everywhere in Penasco. The people that are disrecpectful about it, F YOU! What's that saying???? BEGGARS CAN'T BE CHOOSEY! DON'T BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU.... Pick one my amigo.
I'm sure we have all had people doing this to us, worse one I ever had was
I've had my windshield washed waiting at the light by Rosy's restaurant (not by choice) only to have the guy's
buddy try pulling my laptop bag off of my rear seat.
Yes I had my back windows 1/2 way down. I saw the guys arm in my mirror and promptly started driving through the
light that was still red, dragging the guy with his arm still in my car. I thwarted that almost robbery.
I love going out to eat, but going to places like Taco's Brissa, Pollo Lucas and the Malecon are tough to do because of all the
beggar/car wash people who swarm you when you pull up. Really don't like what they call us when I tell them no.
Many times I will pay them 10-20 pesos just to leave my car alone, I don't like waiting to cross into the US in Sonoyta.
It usually takes $10 worth of donations to get thru that line of window washers, tortilla ladies, kid's and beggars.
I tip people who do things for us like bagger's at stores, gas station attendant's, guards at stores that will load your car
if I see a tip jar at places I frequent I always put some peso's in. Always tip in restaurants 15-20%.
Even the ragged looking people I see at RR crossings will get some $ and a water bottle.
I imagine when things open up (hopefully) in a few weeks they will be out en-mass to make up for 3 months
without the RICH Americans to keep them supplemented.
I'm sure we have all had people doing this to us, worse one I ever had was
I've had my windshield washed waiting at the light by Rosy's restaurant (not by choice) only to have the guy's
buddy try pulling my laptop bag off of my rear seat.
Yes I had my back windows 1/2 way down. I saw the guys arm in my mirror and promptly started driving through the
light that was still red, dragging the guy with his arm still in my car. I thwarted that almost robbery.
I love going out to eat, but going to places like Taco's Brissa, Pollo Lucas and the Malecon are tough to do because of all the
beggar/car wash people who swarm you when you pull up. Really don't like what they call us when I tell them no.
Many times I will pay them 10-20 pesos just to leave my car alone, I don't like waiting to cross into the US in Sonoyta.
It usually takes $10 worth of donations to get thru that line of window washers, tortilla ladies, kid's and beggars.
I tip people who do things for us like bagger's at stores, gas station attendant's, guards at stores that will load your car
if I see a tip jar at places I frequent I always put some peso's in. Always tip in restaurants 15-20%.
Even the ragged looking people I see at RR crossings will get some $ and a water bottle.
I imagine when things open up (hopefully) in a few weeks they will be out en-mass to make up for 3 months
without the RICH Americans to keep them supplemented.
Had the same exact thing happen to me back in maybe 14 or 15... Wrecked at the reef. Pry 9pm at night came rolling in with my windows down and some guy standing with all the cabbies was like trying to talk to me like we knew each other, wasn't paying attention and all of a sudden my music shuts off and something "drops" inside my truck. I immediately look over and another one of the guys is a quarter of the way inside my window, backing out hastily. I was like WHAT THE F###CK?! Got so pissed I started yelling at these fools so loud... Went into Wrecked and know many people that worked there, told every single one of them what just happened and they went out there with the cops. I'm guessing it's a problem there because over the years now the cabbies have to wait outside of wrecked's property... One guy distracts you talking to you, while the other guy goes in from the other side open window, grabs whatever is in hands reach.
The only reason these CULEROS didn't get my phone is because back then I didn't have blu-tooth and the RCA wire for the stereo system was plugged into the phone. He had it in his hands and went to pull away and the cord ripped it out of his hands, stopping the music, making me realize OOOOOOOOOOOOO HELLLLLLLLLLLLL NAH!!!! I will go to jail on PRINCIPLE! IT's the PRINCIPALITY of the whole situation SMOKEYYYYYYY!!! (Friday reference) (Big Worm).
Just saw a video on FB of the sanitary check point. So basically, you have to exit your vehicle and walk through?! Scratch that estimated 1 hour wait... 4th of July will be a 3 hour wait to get into town after waiting an hour at the border... damn. This is getting more dreary.
Just saw a video on FB of the sanitary check point. So basically, you have to exit your vehicle and walk through?! Scratch that estimated 1 hour wait... 4th of July will be a 3 hour wait to get into town after waiting an hour at the border... damn. This is getting more dreary.
This is a challenging time and nobody knows exactly what to do. I will tell you we feel pretty safe here because of the way the lockdown is being handled from the disease point of view not tourism point of view, this coming from a guy who makes a living on tourism. We have probably the strictest lockdown anywhere. For review.....as of right now if Naomi wants to ride with me she has to take the back seat, if we go to the store it is only 1 person per cart so she stays home, mask are mandatory once you leave your property if you go to a store without a mask you are sol(not the beer), until just a few days ago the beer supply has dried up completely as beer production was deemed not essential in March so all deliveries stopped in the country, what was on the shelf could be sold from 8 am to 6 pm and when it was gone it was gone.....I haven't had a beer in 2 weeks and am losing some weight so I think I will continue in this path...the point being it has been shall we say inconvenient..... but are we doing it? Yes because we wanted to quarantine here and if we left town for any reason we would have no way of getting back until right now. Following the lead of people who know more than me is easy and I don't think they are part of a larger conspiracy to take control of our lives.
Time will pass and this will be behind us, maybe I will have work next year, maybe not. For now we are happy - fed - virus free and longing for the beach when the feds finally open it. We will grab our bottle of wine and a few steaks and our beach chairs and enjoy a sunset together somewhere on Cholla Bay. AJUA....life is good
The Covid-19 cases in Mexico are really ramping up this week. I saw where AZ was supposed to peak June 20th.
We'll see how this pans out for AZ and Mexico.
If Mexico goes like Italy and other Euro countries it could be awhile before this peaks and passes.
The charts included are showing the timeline.
Notice how long Italy took to finally ramp down, Mexico will probably follow a a path similar to that.
I am Really Wanting them to open June 16th. Mexico needs to get their people out and back to work.
Also, I and many others need to see the Ocean around Penasco and Cholla Bay.
Now the big question, I owned in Cholla for years and visit Cholla 6-8 weeks per year.
Will I be allowed to get thru the screening with any of the following CFE bill, property tax statement, home insurance policy,
auto insurance policy? I Don't have a perm res card yet. Thoughts? Thx
no, only people that are permanent residence and we’re not able to get back in before they closed everything down. You will be allowed June 16 (hopefully) to enter as a tourist.
no, only people that are permanent residence and we’re not able to get back in before they closed everything down. You will be allowed June 16 (hopefully) to enter as a tourist.
yep and nothing is guaranteed, the folks coming home right now have not been under the same kind of lockdown as we have so there may be some that won't take it as seriously...time will tell, they have to be home by the 5th and if the town is still clean on the 15th they will open for tourist on the 16th
I'm sure we have all had people doing this to us, worse one I ever had was
I've had my windshield washed waiting at the light by Rosy's restaurant (not by choice) only to have the guy's
buddy try pulling my laptop bag off of my rear seat.
Yes I had my back windows 1/2 way down. I saw the guys arm in my mirror and promptly started driving through the
light that was still red, dragging the guy with his arm still in my car. I thwarted that almost robbery.
I love going out to eat, but going to places like Taco's Brissa, Pollo Lucas and the Malecon are tough to do because of all the
beggar/car wash people who swarm you when you pull up. Really don't like what they call us when I tell them no.
Many times I will pay them 10-20 pesos just to leave my car alone, I don't like waiting to cross into the US in Sonoyta.
It usually takes $10 worth of donations to get thru that line of window washers, tortilla ladies, kid's and beggars.
I tip people who do things for us like bagger's at stores, gas station attendant's, guards at stores that will load your car
if I see a tip jar at places I frequent I always put some peso's in. Always tip in restaurants 15-20%.
Even the ragged looking people I see at RR crossings will get some $ and a water bottle.
I imagine when things open up (hopefully) in a few weeks they will be out en-mass to make up for 3 months
without the RICH Americans to keep them supplemented.
Just saw a video on FB of the sanitary check point. So basically, you have to exit your vehicle and walk through?! Scratch that estimated 1 hour wait... 4th of July will be a 3 hour wait to get into town after waiting an hour at the border... damn. This is getting more dreary.
Here in Nogales they started the same type of revision and it initially caused multi-hour delays to get into Mexico; not sure what the current situation is since I haven't crossed for a few weeks. They have good intentions but assuming an infected person crosses the border, what possible good does this spraydown do? The danger is from the virus being INSIDE OF YOU and spreading out to the world when you breath, cough or sneeze. What is this spray supposed to accomplish?
Then there is the outright ludicrous:
I am all for reasonable measures, but what possible benefit is gained by scrubbing down pavement? I want to give Mexico the benefit of the doubt, but some of these measures were clearly not thought through clearly.
Now I hear about the thermal cameras and my head starts to shake. Googling for about 10 seconds shows how limited they are as a means of catching infected people. Also, it is not clear they are intended for outdoor use. How will they hold up in the 110 degree summer heat at an outdoor checkpoint?
I think you are right Joe, multi-hour waits may be the normal in the short-term to get into PP...
As of May 28th (I wonder if we will move forward on June 1st now???) I read the we were at 6 this week. We think its way higher. Apart from one state, all of Mexico is painted red on new ‘stoplight’ map
Only in Zacatecas will nonessential activities be permitted to resume on Monday
Every state except Zacatecas has been allocated a “red light” on the federal government’s stoplight system to determine which coronavirus restrictions can be lifted and where, meaning that nonessential activities will not recommence on Monday in the vast majority of the country.
Deputy Health Minister Hugo López-Gatell presented a map at Friday morning’s presidential press conference that showed that the risk of Covid-19 infection has been deemed to be at the maximum level in 31 of Mexico’s 32 federal entities.
Zacatecas, which currently has 59 active Covid-19 cases, is considered a high risk “orange light” state.
“This evaluation was made on May 28, it’s the most up-to-date and it is what will enter into force on Monday, June 1,” López-Gatell said.
“At the end of the national social distancing initiative, this is how the country is. But, and we’ve said it before, the health safety measures don’t end,” he said, explaining that it will now be the responsibility of state governments to implement restrictions in accordance with the color they are allocated on the stoplight system
Today’s map paints a much different picture than the first such map, issued on May 13 when the stoplight system was announced. At the time, fewer than a dozen states were given a red light.
The deputy minister said that the stoplight map will be updated on a weekly basis and that federal authorities will subsequently announce the color that corresponds to each state and which activities can resume in each one.
States will be allocated a red, orange, yellow or green light depending on the number of active and new coronavirus cases they have, their hospital admission trends and their hospital occupancy levels.
In “red” states, only essential economic activities will be permitted including the newly-designated sectors of construction, mining and automotive.
Other sectors will be permitted to resume operations once the stoplight switches to orange but with a reduced capacity and/or workforce and with restrictions in place to prevent the spread of Covid-19. People considered to be particularly vulnerable to Covid-19 due to their age or existing health conditions will be permitted to return to work albeit with special protocols in place.
Public spaces will also be reopened during the orange light phase but at a reduced capacity.
Businesses will be able to increase their workforces and capacity once their state has been allocated a yellow light and there will be fewer restrictions in open-air public spaces. However, stricter restrictions will remain in force in indoor spaces such as restaurants, cinemas and theaters.
Once a state is given a green light, students will return to school and other educational institutions and all remaining restrictions on economic and everyday activities will be lifted.
López-Gatell said that Cancún, and the entire state of Quintana Roo, is close to being allocated a yellow light, which corresponds to the “medium risk” level.
“Cancún … is one of the cities that is closest to becoming a medium risk area … and it’s very probable that in the next few days, maybe a week, we will be able to announce that [its risk level] has been lowered,” he said.
That would pave the way for the reopening of Quintana Roo’s tourism sector, which has been hit hard by the coronavirus crisis.
The sector has launched a new tourism campaign to attract visitors to the Caribbean coast state after an expected reopening on June 8.
The World Travel and Tourism Council announced this week that the Mexican Caribbean will be the first destination in the Americas to receive a newly created “Safe Travels” global safety and hygiene certification, backed by the United Nations World Tourism Organization and more than 200 CEOs in the tourism sector.
I've read it's a zinc based anti bacterial, also saw a FB post saying it's a silver based solution.
Pinto Point Rick may chime in with some info as he went thru the tent a few weeks ago.
I've read it's a zinc based anti bacterial, also saw a FB post saying it's a silver based solution.
Pinto Point Rick may chime in with some info as he went thru the tent a few weeks ago.
Most likely a dilute hydrogen peroxide solution (retired scientist here). Of course, when all you are trying to do is achieve a placebo effect, water is your best choice, or scented water.
It seems like we don;t know for 100% sure what the spray solution is. Will any of you not come to Penasco based on not knowing what you're getting sprayed with?
It seems like we don;t know for 100% sure what the spray solution is. Will any of you not come to Penasco based on not knowing what you're getting sprayed with?
I worked in a laboratory for 35 years and also was a firefighter for awhile. Their benign disinfectant spray is far down on my list of worries. I’ll hold my breath as I walk through.
Quaternary Ammonium is what they are spraying, hold your breath close your eyes and walk through. Everybody that has come through says it is easy and not a big deal and there have been several. Guys quit guessing about stuff, read or follow www.rockypoint360.com they are on the web and on facebook, they have the most up to date translated information out there. On their facebook page Rocky Point Times has been doing an excellent job of getting up to date material out there too but only on facebook and I know some of you won't go to facebook. These two sources are the best way to stay up to date with the ever changing news here.
Quaternary Ammonium is what they are spraying, hold your breath close your eyes and walk through. Everybody that has come through says it is easy and not a big deal and there have been several. Guys quit guessing about stuff, read or follow www.rockypoint360.com they are on the web and on facebook, they have the most up to date translated information out there. On their facebook page Rocky Point Times has been doing an excellent job of getting up to date material out there too but only on facebook and I know some of you won't go to facebook. These two sources are the best way to stay up to date with the ever changing news here.
Quaternary ammonium compounds, probably hundreds of different ones in industrial use, are not what I would pick for this (Ph.D. In chemistry and hundreds of publications here). Probably won’t do worse than give you skin irritation. Hold your breath going through and take a shower as soon as you get home. It’s a completely useless disinfectant if someone is infected and shedding virons.
My wife drove back to US this morning. No questions or even any interest going thro the checkpoint. No hassle in Sonyota. Perfectly normal border crossing. She anticipates coming back to town by June 5. Might have to quarantine at home. Fine with that.
After the revised map came out putting all states but one in red, and by the book precluding “resumption of nonessential activities“ on Monday, I ran into a prominent restaurant owner at Sam’s. He was aware of the new map and asserted he was nonetheless opening on Monday. “I’ve got to eat”.
This was an interesting article about Quats (quaternary ammonium compounds) and other disinfectants. It is not just going through the tunnel one time, but all the disinfecting they will be doing everywhere for the next several months or more.
All that and the odds are pretty good that the same solution is not sprayed at every port of entry. "Hey look at this one it has that quartinary lomoanium stuff in in and it is cheaper. Use it"
Third world country running around like a chicken with their head cut off. They don't know what to do, so they are doing anything that looks like it might help. Beyond ridiculous but I get it. Mexico doesn't have the medical infrastructure or wealth to deal with the Chinese virus. The poor get poorer. Just happy I have other places to stay while this chaos continues in Mexico.
All that and the odds are pretty good that the same solution is not sprayed at every port of entry. "Hey look at this one it has that quartinary lomoanium stuff in in and it is cheaper. Use it"
Everyone also needs to think about the employees that are having to use it and spray it everywhere everyday. That can't be good for them either for short term or long term use.
Damn, I'm seriously depressed now. I really really don't think I'm willing to deal with that big of a hassle to visit Rocky Point. Getting out of your vehicle to have to walk through an inspection and then this tunnel of love body wash thing, like wtffffffff?! Damn this sucks. Hopefully baja isn't doing the same thing because we want to explore the west side of the SOC in October...
Sonora is red, but is Puerto Peñasco still yellow? Will there be clarification from the mayor‘s office this weekend or will I just have to drive to Max’s in search of huevos ranchero?
I would feel a whole lot better about eating in the restaurants if they did simple things like washing dishes with HOT water, not using same sink at the bar to wash beverage glasses and the floor mop. Then rub rub rub the lipstick and skin off the glasses with a napkin right at the bar !! Watching the cooks put their fingers into their mouths, eating while cooking is no fun either.
Well, remember different jurisdictions use different criterion for reporting. Penasco's has kept the count way down, now we will see what the slope of the curve of new incidents looks like.
I would feel a whole lot better about eating in the restaurants if they did simple things like washing dishes with HOT water, not using same sink at the bar to wash beverage glasses and the floor mop. Then rub rub rub the lipstick and skin off the glasses with a napkin right at the bar !! Watching the cooks put their fingers into their mouths, eating while cooking is no fun either.
OK Roberto, I was going to eat my breakfast, suddenly I'm not so hungry. :confused:
That type of stuff happens at a lot of restaurants in the US too.
But I have watched servers and cooks in Penasco and have seen what you described more than once. (in Puerto Vallarta it's even worse)
I thing we hope that changes coming out of the CV era is much better hygiene everywhere.
Most likely a dilute hydrogen peroxide solution (retired scientist here). Of course, when all you are trying to do is achieve a placebo effect, water is your best choice, or scented water.
Ha! Yeah – Reminds me of back during H1N1, when they had southward travelers into Penasco stop, hold out their hands, and get a squirt of hand sanitizer.
I would feel a whole lot better about eating in the restaurants if they did simple things like washing dishes with HOT water, not using same sink at the bar to wash beverage glasses and the floor mop. Then rub rub rub the lipstick and skin off the glasses with a napkin right at the bar !! Watching the cooks put their fingers into their mouths, eating while cooking is no fun either.
Thanks Roberto. Im grossed out now too. Just about ready to eat my NY strip I grilled.:booger:
This was an interesting article about Quats (quaternary ammonium compounds) and other disinfectants. It is not just going through the tunnel one time, but all the disinfecting they will be doing everywhere for the next several months or more.
So, trying to be as informed as a retired guy can be, I'm reading this article linked here, and from what I'm reading - those Lysol disinfecting wipes we've been using to wipe surfaces down aren't that safe for us after all???
Already seeing that travelling to Mexico is getting more unlikely anytime soon, now I have to research my Lysol wipes?
damn. at least that 112 degree heat yesterday killed the virus, right?
All travel plans cancelled since mid-March, and no end in sight.
So, trying to be as informed as a retired guy can be, I'm reading this article linked here, and from what I'm reading - those Lysol disinfecting wipes we've been using to wipe surfaces down aren't that safe for us after all???
Already seeing that travelling to Mexico is getting more unlikely anytime soon, now I have to research my Lysol wipes?
damn. at least that 112 degree heat yesterday killed the virus, right?
All travel plans cancelled since mid-March, and no end in sight.
So, trying to be as informed as a retired guy can be, I'm reading this article linked here, and from what I'm reading - those Lysol disinfecting wipes we've been using to wipe surfaces down aren't that safe for us after all???
Already seeing that travelling to Mexico is getting more unlikely anytime soon, now I have to research my Lysol wipes?
damn. at least that 112 degree heat yesterday killed the virus, right?
All travel plans cancelled since mid-March, and no end in sight.
I read that Ford was doing a computer upgrade for the law enforcement agencies to add a climate option for heating
the cars interior to 133+ degrees that will kill CV-19.
YES! Phase II of Puerto Peñasco reactivation steps are planned to go into effect on Monday, June 1st. This will provide for a reduced number of people inside certain establishments, expanding on the take-out/delivery restaurant options and appointment only services from Phase 1. Further details on adjustments during this Phase will be issued by the City Gobierno de Puerto Peñasco by Monday. (Sorry, this does not include beaches or pools - beaches dictated under federal steps, and pools following State health checks)
*Phase II June 1st – June 15th Note: 10 pm curfew siren remains in effect – as does restriction of # of people per vehicle (max 2 per car – with one in back seat and both with masks – for essential outings only - this is to reduce overall numbers of people and movement in town). ** Phase III is still anticipated for June 16th – when visitors will be welcomed back to town, and yes with various health and safety protocols in effect (though no siren!)
Stay tuned for local updates as we move toward Phase III!
Resident entry at heath filter / roadblock on north side of town along Peñasco – Sonoyta highway (through June 7)
* This is for individuals (Mexican and foreigners) whose primary full-time residence is in Puerto Peñasco. Must have photo ID and proof of residence with Puerto Peñasco address (in your name), use of thermal camera to check for temperatures and rapid testing on site if applicable (if someone has a high temp) IMPORTANT – NO COST FOR RAPID TEST. After a clear thermal check, you will sign a Letter of Commitment to self-isolate for 2 weeks and will be given a sticker for your car (yes, you can go out for essentials – the idea is to not see stickered vehicles roaming around during the self-isolation period). Residents returning during this time will also go through the City’s "sanitation tunnel" following thermal check (QAC components in spray; pets go through tunnel with you).
As Mexico's national "Healthy Distance" campaign ended this weekend, the Federal alert map will provide ongoing guidance to Mexico's "New Normal" as to determined risk in various regions across the country. This will be updated weekly based on regional tendency of Covid-19 cases, hospitalization tendencies, % of hospitalization occupancy, and detection of new cases. However, states are responsible for establishing corresponding reopening plans. Puerto Peñasco is currently on track to meet its gradual phasing in plans to help revive economic activities!
Our thanks to local developer Encantame Towers for the opportunity to join in on an informative conversation with Mayor Kiko Munro along with Rocky Point Times Newspaper to go over many of these important points #stayhealthy #inthistogether #samestormdifferentboats
So, trying to be as informed as a retired guy can be, I'm reading this article linked here, and from what I'm reading - those Lysol disinfecting wipes we've been using to wipe surfaces down aren't that safe for us after all???
Already seeing that travelling to Mexico is getting more unlikely anytime soon, now I have to research my Lysol wipes?
damn. at least that 112 degree heat yesterday killed the virus, right?
All travel plans cancelled since mid-March, and no end in sight.
TRUST THE SCIENCE.
Keep trusting your experts.
They will never let you down.
Until... they change their prior recommendation 180° from their last “scientific” mandate.
Because of FEAR and a sheeple mentality, everyone has thrown common sense out the freaking window.
Why would you not know already, in advance, whether wiping something with your Lysol wipes is good for you or not?
I heard diesel fuel is great to kill Covid as well. Cheaper than Lysol wipes... Try that
June 16th – PHASE III
• Beaches open
• Pools open
• 3 Incoming lanes at Sanitary Fence
• 1 Outgoing lane at Sanitary Fence
• Spray Booth eliminated
• Complimentary masks handed out at Sanitary Fence (must be worn in common areas like Malecon)
• Thermal Camera scans all occupants with no need to exit the vehicle
• If all occupants are within normal temperature range you proceed into the city
• Infrared thermometer available if the camera shows high temp.
• COVID Rapid Tests available at no charge
• No vehicle restrictions (i.e.: 2 persons per vehicle)
• Most restaurants and businesses open
The plan is for restaurants, businesses, and beaches to be open on June 16th and Mayor Kiko Munro said that we will all know, well in advance, specific details as to what to expect going into Phase III. For example, the sanitary fence will still be in place, but entry will be expanded to 3 lanes, instead of 1, the sanitation spray booth will most likely be eliminated, and the thermal camera will be used to scan everyone in your vehicle – fast and simple. The city will be releasing a Phase II graph on Monday, June 1st, which will detail businesses that can open and in what capacity as well as other anticipated information. In the meantime, below are some things we know you all are very interested in knowing about June 16th, so, if you haven’t made your reservation for June 16th…do so now!!
City Mayor, Kiko Munro was very candid saying that, “Puerto Peñasco will get COVID cases no matter what”, so the city is taking great measures to make it as safe as possible for all of us. He absolutely does not want our medical system overwhelmed so going through these phases gives them more time. In addition, businesses are being asked to adapt to a “new normal”, for now, and individuals are asked to follow certain protocols, which the city will make available soon. In the case of face masks, which is a hot topic, as of June 16th, the general public will still need to wear them in common areas such as the Malecon and Rodeo Drive, but not the beach areas. You will most likely have to wear one entering a restaurant, but not in the restaurant as they are following “social distancing” guidelines. Restaurant staff and other personnel will be required by the city to wear masks. Complimentary masks will be handed out at the Sanitary Filter and you need to grab one if you didn’t bring your own as some businesses may require them to be worn inside their place of business. I know this irks some of you, but you can decide whether or not to patronize that business or go into common areas. I am not a big fan of masks either, but keep in mind that everyone has their own opinions, reasons, fears, logic and it really is just a minor inconvenience for a brief amount of time. And don’t be surprised if you are asked to go through sanitation tunnels and to use hand sanitizer when entering businesses.
Our Mayor also said in the meeting this morning that the only thing that will prohibit us from opening up on June 16th, “is if there is an outbreak of COVID cases that we can’t control”, which the city does not expect and is why they took, and are taking, extreme measures during Phase I and II.
There are State and Federal Guidelines that have been published, but I am just focusing on what I know our readers are most interested in hearing. Rocky Point 360° will most likely go in-depth about these so check them out if you are interested. There has much chatter about the Federal “Stoplight” Map and a proposed Health Card, but I don’t want to expound on either of these items since the Health Card is just a “future idea” and the Map just causes confusion – at least for me, it does. Yes, there are Federal guidelines, but we are mostly concerned with what our Mayor does and what is relevant to our city and all of this “information” takes away from what we all really want to know, which is when can we come down, what can we expect, what rules do we need to follow…and when will the beaches be open??!!! Of course, we are always happy to answer any questions you have about information at the Federal and State levels, just email, phone, or DM us.
There are State and Federal Guidelines that have been published, but I am just focusing on what I know our readers are most interested in hearing. Rocky Point 360° will most likely go in-depth about these so check them out if you are interested. There has much chatter about the Federal “Stoplight” Map and a proposed Health Card, but I don’t want to expound on either of these items since the Health Card is just a “future idea” and the Map just causes confusion – at least for me, it does. Yes, there are Federal guidelines, but we are mostly concerned with what our Mayor does and what is relevant to our city and all of this “information” takes away from what we all really want to know, which is when can we come down, what can we expect, what rules do we need to follow…and when will the beaches be open??!!! Of course, we are always happy to answer any questions you have about information at the Federal and State levels, just email, phone, or DM us.
The majority of our wonderful readers and followers (and newbies) will be coming down on or after June 16th and here are some highlights of what you can expect. As I said, the city will make details available well in advance of the 16th and as of now, this is the plan.
What can you expect on June 16th?
As you enter Rocky Point, on or after June 16th, your vehicle will be scanned by a thermal camera. If anyone’s temperature reads high (above 37.5°C/99.5F), they will be asked to exit the vehicle and then scanned with an infrared thermometer. If the thermometer also shows high temperature, the person will then have the option to take the COVID Rapid Test, at no charge, or return to their point of origin. If the Rapid Test comes back positive for COVID-19, then they will be asked to return to where they came from. This will apply to EVERYONE in the vehicle as you may have all been exposed. I stress this because you will be ruining the vacation for everyone if you are feeling ill and come down anyway.
If you do show a high temperature via both the thermal camera and infrared thermometer, but your Rapid Test comes back negative, you will be asked to visit a healthcare provider to figure out why you are showing a high temperature - there very well may be something medically wrong with you.
If everyone in your vehicle shows a normal temperature range (below 37.5°C/99.5F) you will be permitted entrance to the city and no one will need to exit the vehicle to take a 2nd test. You will be on your way to the beach and lots of fun!!
The only other missing piece to getting “back to normal” will be lifting the border travel restrictions, which have been slated for June 22nd by the U.S. As far as coming into Mexico, Kiko stated that he is working very closely with the person in charge in Sonoyta and expects no problems with visitors entering Mexico on, and after June 16th. The border hours, to enter Mexico at Sonoyta, are currently 6:00 AM to 8:00 PM and 6:00 AM to 8:00 PM to re-enter the United States at Lukeville. For now, we are going with these hours and will update them as soon as we hear they have changed. (Our normal border hours are 6:00 AM to midnight.)
Mayor Kiko Munro stressed that he is being very cautious, and the city is taking every precaution so that we experience no relapse or setback of any kind. Many of us are desperately awaiting your return so we do not want to do anything to screw up our goal of opening on June 16th. I know some of you like to be rebels, as do I, but I am begging you to just hang in there and wait until June 16th to come down unless, of course, you are a full-time resident.
On June 16th you can most likely expect to have your temperature taken at some businesses around town like restaurants and when you check into your condo or hotel. I know it does seem redundant, after having gone through the Sanitary Filter, but it is just an added level of protection for everyone because we DO NOT want to go backward and have to shut everything down again. I, for one, do not want to go another 3 months not being able to visit my beaches and favorite establishments. So, please, please be patient and understanding and remember that these minor inconveniences will be totally worth it once you sink your toes in the sand and hit your favorite haunts.
Gobierno de Puerto Peñasco
This was in the same article above, but was to long to post so I am adding it here for those that are needing to get back in that are full time residents.
Before we jump ahead to June 16th, I want to clear up some confusion and questions about our current Phase. Until June 7th, full-time residents are being allowed to return to their homes in Rocky Point. This does NOT include property owners who just want to come and check their property or hang out. A lot of people are being turned back for not being full-time residents and/or not having the proper documentation proving that they are full-time residents. So, if you do not live here full-time – as in you have NO other residence - please do not come down until June 16th. I know this is a bummer, but trust me, it will be well worth it come June 16th when everyone can come down!
During this current Phase II, detailed personal information is being collected when residents are entering town, and decals are being affixed to their vehicles, so this is why the lines have been long. The city is also using this time to learn what to do and what not to do – what problems/complications to expect - and what can be avoided or speed up when June 16th rolls around. Everyone should thank the full-time residents for being so patient! This time is also being used to educate everyone from the city itself to the Army, Police, Red Cross, Military, etc. Remember, they have lots of questions themselves as this is a NEW experience for everyone and EVERYONE is looking to the city for answers, as are we. We know that you all are very eager to get to Rocky Point, but please, please, wait until June 16th to give everyone time to make your next trip to Rocky Point a breeze, and please bring your patience with you.
A lot of people are being turned back for not being full-time residents and/or not having the proper documentation proving that they are full-time residents.
So what are the current proper documents requirements to prove you are a full time resident. And how many copies do you need to provide.???? And how long before they approve your documents and issue the permit? Anyone know?
And BTW there are lots of visitors coming in I watched a 10 motorcycle group from Caborca yesterday. I was questioned about what to do by some folks who just got in from Arizona. I am more afraid of leaving the house because of the changing and vague regulations than the virus.
It is absurd to require proof that you own NO OTHER residents. Where? in Mexico, Penasco , Arizona, CHina. There is no way to do that . NONE It is also not a services to the citizens to post such incomplete information. I have been in lockup since day one and am more confused than ever. Bummer does not begin to describe it. If you cannot get reliable information that is understandable, confirmable and makes sense please do not post anything.
A lot of people are being turned back for not being full-time residents and/or not having the proper documentation proving that they are full-time residents. So, if you do not live here full-time – as in you have NO other residence - please do not come down until June 16th. I know this is a bummer, but trust me, it will be well worth it come June 16th when everyone can come down!
I have a Bank Trust, CONDEFA bills, Ooomapas bills. what is the proof I do not have more than one home somewhere in Penasco or elsewhere in the world. ?? Yea yea I meant MEXiCO so say MEXICO...
It is absurd to require proof that you own NO OTHER residents. Where? in Mexico, Penasco , Arizona, CHina. There is no way to do that . NONE It is also not a services to the citizens to post such incomplete information. I have been in lockup since day one and am more confused than ever. Bummer does not begin to describe it. If you cannot get reliable information that is understandable, confirmable and makes sense please do not post anything.
A lot of people are being turned back for not being full-time residents and/or not having the proper documentation proving that they are full-time residents. So, if you do not live here full-time – as in you have NO other residence - please do not come down until June 16th. I know this is a bummer, but trust me, it will be well worth it come June 16th when everyone can come down!
I have a Bank Trust, CONDEFA bills, Ooomapas bills. what is the proof I do not have more than one home somewhere in Penasco or elsewhere in the world. ?? Yea yea I meant MEXiCO so say MEXICO...
This info was from a sit down with Kiko (Mayor), Rocky Point 360, Rocky Point Times and Encantame Towers to help bring clarity. So if you want concrete info then contact them. Don't shoot the messenger. I have been in lock down the same amount of time as you and I understand your frustration. Good info is hard to come by in Mexico so we have to still try to make sense of the nonsense we have been given.
Well if you wanna be a cheerleader be clear on what you are cheering about. Entame Towers??? You are obviously important enough for someone to invite you to a sit down with the mayor. Cheer all you want but how about cheering for some clarity, not just hold your breath and trust me ,. Oh yeah and don't ask any more questions.
Well if you wanna be a cheerleader be clear on what you are cheering about. Entame Towers??? You are obviously important enough for someone to invite you to a sit down with the mayor. Cheer all you want but how about cheering for some clarity, not just hold your breath and trust me ,. Oh yeah and don't ask any more questions.
We did not sit down with the mayor....They sat down with the mayor and wrote this and posted as to what is going to be expected in Phase III. I copied it and thought it would be helpful info. It was not written by me. I posted the link as to where it came from.
I had breakfast at Max’s this morning. only one waitress was employed during the lockdown to service take out orders. The rest were unemployed for two months. If you are in town go to all of your favorite restaurants and tip generously.
I had breakfast at Max’s this morning. only one waitress was employed during the lockdown to service take out orders. The rest were unemployed for two months. If you are in town go to all of your favorite restaurants and tip generously.
A lot of people in Rocky Point were still working "take out" over the last few months. Just depends on which house in Cholla Bay they were taking it out of...
Well so much for phase II. More clarity is needed. Police came and shut Max's down today. Apparently a dispute between the City and State about Phase II opening. City says yes, State says no. Interesting that the owners/managers of the affected businesses say they do not get any official word from the state or city about the rules. . They are in the dark as much as everyone else.
Well so much for phase II. More clarity is needed. Police came and shut Max's down today. Apparently a dispute between the City and State about Phase II opening. City says yes, State says no. Interesting that the owners/managers of the affected businesses say they do not get any official word from the state or city about the rules. . They are in the dark as much as everyone else.
There is an article about this on the Periodico de Frente facebook news site.
Everything is fluid right now (and they are trying to keep others fluid off you), rules are being made on the fly since no one has ever dealt with this kind of stuff before. We are doing our best to stay out of the way......it'll be over soon or we will have to never leave our house again....it's that simple. It's not fun at all but it is simple. My wife has to ride in the back seat if we go anywhere together so its kind of like "driving ms Daisy" but it is driving ms Naomi.....
Word on the street has it that it is a political dispute. Mayor and Gov. are different parties. So I guess all phase 2 rules are questionable at this juncture.
Word on the street has it that it is a political dispute. Mayor and Gov. are different parties. So I guess all phase 2 rules are questionable at this juncture.
I was trying to catch up on some of Bill Maher's shows that I've missed in the last few weeks. I watched Memorial Weekend's show last night. Two guests that I found very interesting. Thomas Friedman. Bill has had him on a lot over the years. Well known writer for the New York Times and the other guest, Dr Cate Shanahan who's expertise in nutrition and METABOLIC HEALTH. Learned a little about herd immunity and the case for that by Friedman whos reporting on Sweeden's current model. Dr Shanahan was the team nutritionist for the Los Angeles Lakers for 6 years and explained the difference between being seemingly healthy and metabolic health. Metabolic health pertains more to how your body processes what you put into it, the fuel our bodies run on. Predominantly over the last few decades we've substituted natural animal fats for seed oils. She is betting her career on the fact that if you are metabolically healthy you are NOT getting sick from this disease. She said there are 8 seed oils that are highly unstable and toxic once inside the body. They degrade the immune system. She is literally betting her career that you can NOT show her one person under 40 that contracted and has serious health issues or death as a result of Covid that was metabolically healthy. She said it is simply NOT bad luck if you are under 40 and contract this and have physical symptoms or severe symptoms... I don't know. I was certainly surprised to hear that and impressed by her expertise in this particular field. We have known for a very long time that nutrition and health are certainly the two best ways to avoid health complications over your lifetime. It's funny because when I had MRSA I was all about the HIGH ALKALINE diet. Main principle is that you need to ingest 70-80% of your diet needs to come directly from HIGH ALKALINE veggies, fruits and nuts to keep your body natural homiostasis 7.4% PH. Sugar, dairy and grains and or anything that is a carb is processed by the body and turned into blood sugar. Red meat, sugar, dairy, alcohol, coffee, carbs = ACID forming foods. This doctor is taking this a step further and saying that these seed oils are worse than all of that in addition to that.
I’ve met Bill Maher, been backstage at his show, but was never a guest. Food and nutrition gurus like Shanahan drive me nuts with their overreaching and unsupportable claims. The body does an outstanding job of maintaining the right pH.
Also heard statistic and I need to find it to be exact so please don't yell or quote me but something like 40-some % of the total deaths have been by 80yr+ individuals. So close to 50,000 deaths... getting more information is nice but it makes you think more too. Being patient for the big picture is hard. Death is rough for anyone going through this. Just wish we knew realistically how severe this is and for what population specifically... starting to shift to the middle of the conversation. There has to be some balance between being open and free and being safe and cautious. Testing, contact tracing and like Thomas Friedman says, maybe herd immunity will play out. Trying to understand both sides of the story is crucial. I can't be someone that preaches being reasonable if you can't bother to objectively try to understand both sides of the argument.
Gyms in Phoenix are open but Lake Pleasant Castle Creek boat ramp/recreation area is closed M-Th and on Friday Sat Sun the entire lake hits a mandated hard closure by 8am... That lake is pretty big. You wouldn't be able to touch someone if you tried. Not sure how much more isolated and individual can be on a ONE MAN kayak in the second biggest man made lake in the surrounding phoenix area.
I understand RP wants to keep the virus out but this went from containment to complete prevention. How do you completely prevent the introduction or re-introduction of the virus without keeping the town closed off for the foreseeable future? IE January when a vaccine comes out. What I keep asking is what is different about today vs 13 days from now? What is changing in 13 days? Nothing. It's the same exact dynamic. Asymptomatic individuals will NOT be showing a fever!!!!! LOLOL I mean, was this all for not? Tell me what has changed? The virus is still in AZ CA NM... every state that borders Sonora. The virus is still in Mexico.... We were supposed to have used this time to come up with a solution or at the very least protocols to move forward. Nothing was done and now we're re-opening to the same mess so I guess what was the point to begin with other than to not overwhelm the hospitals which I fully understand. Closing the country was good if we took action. It had a point. Until we didn't take any action, did not stem the virus, and now virtually have the same mess. This is too little too late.
America is the teacher that gave the kid an extra two weeks to do his book report and time is up and the kid still hasn't read the book...
I’ve met Bill Maher, been backstage at his show, but was never a guest. Food and nutrition gurus like Shanahan drive me nuts with their overreaching and unsupportable claims. The body does an outstanding job of maintaining the right pH.
Yea that's what my wound care doctor would tell me back then. To be honest though, I've never even heard of a doctor being concerned with what a person is putting in their body. I had two 42 day stays in between 10 or so other stays for the same wound/bacteria over the period of 13 months. The entire time sugar was a part of the hospitals diet. 3 times a day there was sugar products on the tray and I never once heard my doctor or the hospitalist ask about what I was putting in my body during that time. Mind you, if you read there is a correlation between sugar and acid. They suspect sugar and acidity are the building blocks for things like cancer and bacteria. If you're battling a super bacteria that they can't kill with strong wide spectrum antibiotics that were literally doing damage to my kidney while simultaneously feeding your body the exact thing that the bacteria needs to thrive and you don't at the very least weigh that as a theory then... I don't know, to each their own???. I can't prove it. I think there is DEFINITELY something worth following up on in regards to nutrition. I do NOT think it is a conspiracy. This is why I kept using this example over the last few months because a lot of my experience at that time is relatable. Especially in regards to ANECDOTAL evidence of something working to CURE and individual of something. I would never claim that as fact but I have my opinion of what may have helped me get over it. Now here's the other questions an individual should ask, what motive does my DR have to recommend fruits and veggies as a possible alternative to medicine that makes said individual money??? Just saying, there's motive involved in this very complex issue. MOTIVE changes BEHAVIOR so you can NOT rule that out. Just saying, never once heard a doctor ask a patient, how many grams of sugar are you putting in your body each day? But they will recommend countless medications that MAY be able to help you. One thing I will never disagree with BILL MAHER on is personal HEALTH in America is ATROCIOUS! So many unhealthy individuals. Your immune system is capable of a lot but not when it's being suppressed with poison!!! (sugar).
The other question I have is, if metabolic health and nutrition is such a scam as is always the response I get when I mention it as a possible resolution or at the very least alternate therapy, then why are professional athletes works of art physically, and why do these organizations spend so much money and devote so much resource to this unproven science? Just asking questions. I don't have the answers but I do like correlation and relationship... they will tell you a lot about life. I think, not unlike other things in America we have to protect industry for capitalism and if you could simply mitigate health risk by eating healthy (80-20 split on fruit veggie/meat ratio) and exercising a lot of money could dry up. Just saying. It's at the very least something to take into consideration.
I agree that Americans (and Mexicans) have generally poor diets. Significantly increasing fruits and vegetables and replacing animal and hydrogenated fats with healthy plant fats such as olive oil and nuts are backed by robust nutritional studies.
On a related topic restaurants have reopened for dine in service. They were opened on Monday. Yesterday morning the police were shutting them down on orders from the state. This morning the Mayor reopened them.
This is from todays news radio La Reyna Del Mar with the Mayor and was updated on Rocky Point 360 Facebook.
Looks pretty clear as to what they need to do to open their restaurants. All the businesses not just restaurants had to do this before reopening.
June 3rd - Phase II - Dining in or dining out? This morning, mayor Kiko Munro reaffirmed both local and State Health authorities have confirmed restaurants can move forward under the city's "Activate Peñasco" plan by allowing dine in service - only at 40% capacity and under strict health measures. Note: masks necessary in public spaces (not while eating of course), no large groups, use the disinfectant gel at the entrance, be patient and TIP your restaurant staff well (that's our two-bits...TIP TIP TIP!) Phase II curfew remains at 10 pm Peñasco is working hard to care for itself with sights set on reopening to visitors on June 16th. Gobierno de Puerto Peñasco Kiko Munro #samestormdifferentboats #consumelocal
IMPORTANT!! For ANY business (restaurant, upcoming openings, etc.) you MUST follow the steps outlined by City including 1. Letter of Commitment (available at Economic Development Office at City Hall 8 am - 3 pm) 2. Participate in course provided by Protección Civil on health guidelines (receive certificate) 3. Have establishment sanitized - this is free (if done by City / Protección Civil) or once you reach this step, you can contract a local business (who also could REALLY use the business) and then have Protección Civil verify. THESE ARE NECESSARY STEPS FOR ANY BUSINESS/RESTAURANT PLANNING TO REOPEN.
I agree that Americans (and Mexicans) have generally poor diets. Significantly increasing fruits and vegetables and replacing animal and hydrogenated fats with healthy plant fats such as olive oil and nuts are backed by robust nutritional studies.
If you look at old photos with people in them from Mexico and the US from 1900-1960 you will see most people were pretty
thin compared to today. Now many people are 10-50% over weight. Combo of bad diets, less manual labor and TV ad's showing
spots for burgers, pizzas and other horrible foods shown in commercials between 5-9PM.
There are pizzas that are better for you than what is being pushed on TV, Think of the pizzas that are being eaten in Italy
maybe 2-3oz of real cheese and veggies vs the 8-12oz of cheese crap and triple fatty meats the big corporate owned places in the USA pile on.
If it was up to me, places like McDonald's, Dominos, Taco Bell, Pepsi/Coke and many more would be out of business.
The Health/Pharma system in the USA and other places really don't want anything to change because
it's a business that's big and very profitable.
So now beef fat or bacon, is better than say olive oil which I believe comes from a seed?? Hey shoot a list of where you get natural animal fats and from what you might get seed oil. No joking. Thanks.
I'll tell you this if this danged thing is not over soon I will overload my car every time I get in it !! Mmmmmm ice cream is better than Valium to calm the nerves.
Beginning at 8 tomorrow morning, Max’s is back to normal schedule. They opened on Monday. At about 9:30 that morning, right after I left, the Health Department (not the police) arrived and shut them down. With the State and City apparently now in agreement, Max’s reopened early this PM for lunch.
Beginning at 8 tomorrow morning, Max’s is back to normal schedule. They opened on Monday. At about 9:30 that morning, right after I left, the Health Department (not the police) arrived and shut them down. With the State and City apparently now in agreement, Max’s reopened early this PM for lunch.
I love their breakfast. One of those BIIIIIIIIIIIIG Sangre Maria's mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! A little cafecito... Pop a 10mg Perc and you're set till about noon...
So now beef fat or bacon, is better than say olive oil which I believe comes from a seed?? Hey shoot a list of where you get natural animal fats and from what you might get seed oil. No joking. Thanks.
Virgin olive oil is pre-processed. I think the substitution refers more to dairy. Yogurt, milk and a lot of salad dressing that is fat free. The theory is if you remove all the fat you have to "flavor" the product with sugar or worse, zero calorie artificial sweetner. True story, years and years ago when I was in my NO SUGAR NAZI days I was buying this protein power salad at Fresh and Easy (no longer in business) for a few days. Salad contained spinach, bacon, one hard boil egg and some nuts. Seemingly the healthiest thing you could eat that day for one of your meals right? NOOOOOOOOOO, WRONG. If you read the nutrition label on the BOTTOM of the container, 22g of sugar in the 2oz of dressing included with the salad.
WHO adult daily allotment for sugar is 25g/day. Most people are reaching their daily allotment of sugar before they leave their house in the morning!
How many people can name 5 sugar substitutes right now?
So you start drinking shit that has zero sugar and GET EVEN FATTER!
This is from todays news radio La Reyna Del Mar with the Mayor and was updated on Rocky Point 360 Facebook.
Looks pretty clear as to what they need to do to open their restaurants. All the businesses not just restaurants had to do this before reopening.
June 3rd - Phase II - Dining in or dining out? This morning, mayor Kiko Munro reaffirmed both local and State Health authorities have confirmed restaurants can move forward under the city's "Activate Peñasco" plan by allowing dine in service - only at 40% capacity and under strict health measures. Note: masks necessary in public spaces (not while eating of course), no large groups, use the disinfectant gel at the entrance, be patient and TIP your restaurant staff well (that's our two-bits...TIP TIP TIP!) Phase II curfew remains at 10 pm Peñasco is working hard to care for itself with sights set on reopening to visitors on June 16th. Gobierno de Puerto Peñasco Kiko Munro #samestormdifferentboats #consumelocal
IMPORTANT!! For ANY business (restaurant, upcoming openings, etc.) you MUST follow the steps outlined by City including 1. Letter of Commitment (available at Economic Development Office at City Hall 8 am - 3 pm) 2. Participate in course provided by Protección Civil on health guidelines (receive certificate) 3. Have establishment sanitized - this is free (if done by City / Protección Civil) or once you reach this step, you can contract a local business (who also could REALLY use the business) and then have Protección Civil verify. THESE ARE NECESSARY STEPS FOR ANY BUSINESS/RESTAURANT PLANNING TO REOPEN.
Hey RP LIFE, thank you for your forum contributions and trying to communicate the announcements for the city. When I read about them lifting the bath and body works tunnel for the Americans I was relieved. Not having to get out of the vehicle has me more optimistic as well... I guess we'll let all the lab rats go down first for a few weeks to iron out the kinks...
