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gringa

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Hi Ladyjeeper! I know this is starting to get a bit repetitive, but THANK YOU for your time and your insight, especially in light of your upcoming surgery (which I know will go well)!

As a long time PP visitor/resident, I sincerely appreciate your insight along with all of the other good folks here. The fact that you travel and stay alone speaks volumes about you and how you feel about your 2nd home! I envy your fluent Spanish! Although I do speak a bit myself, I am no where near fluent, so it, along with French, remain on my bucket list.

I know the Mirador area, but am unfamiliar with the known drug areas you mention, so any info you can provide around that would be most helpful so we can be sure to avoid those areas if they are not apparent.

Like you, we are planning to travel during the day and on a personal note, I think it's really cool that you travel with your 83 year old mother (I mean really, how cool is that?) and know you would not risk her life or your own, so your comments are well taken.

As for the info on this forum, I have read most of it and keep up on the postings (even tho I rarely post myself and actually had to re-register because I could not remember my log-in). Additionally, we have used (and continue to use) the info on this site to gain a sense of what's going on down there and it was some of the dialog and info in those posts that prompted me start this thread.

And I agree that the general crime rate may be similar to here, and maybe even lower given the smaller population, although the per capita rate may be similar, however my concern, like most others I assume, is more around being in the wrong place at the wrong time (like the Circle K on the road to Cholla Bay/Sandy Beach) during an episode between the Narcos and Law Enforcement/Military personnel.

And I hear you about the non-Rocky Point loved ones (I hear it from my mom all the time), which is why I rely on this forum as opposed to potentially ill-informed media reports (actually, I've not heard much in the local media about RP in quite some time, which is a good thing!) And that is precisely why I look to this forum, because many of you are there on a regular basis, are truly aware of what's going on (as much as you can be) and would not risk your life if it were not safe.

And your sage advice to be aware of your surroundings and of what is happening exactly what are do any time we travel. Just because it's familiar or close does not mean that we can be lax when it comes to being aware. I am also aware here in Phoenix and try not to take any unnecessary risks.

On another note, thanks for the advice on the anti-theft device. We don't have a big fancy 4 wheel drive pick up truck (just a 2005 Xterra) but still set the alarm and may consider a gas kill or other option not only for MX, but also for PHX!

Once again, thanks for taking the time to reply to this post and to share your insight. I really do appreciate it and hope that your surgery goes well! And we'd love to join you for a cocktail or two, so we'll be sure to look you up the next time we are down and we'll bring the limes! In the meantime, sending good thoughts to you, your docs and all at the AZ Heart Hospital...it's amazing what they can do these's days, isn't it?
 

gringa

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Hiya Jim! At the risk of sounding repetitive, THANK YOU for sharing your thoughts *and* your insight! Another long time visitor who is now a resident! That's great to hear and the fact that you have a family there also provides a unique perspective.

In addition to those who are frequent visitors, I really do appreciate the insight of folks like you, Russ and Ladyjeeper who live most if not all of their day to day in Rocky Point as that is the perspective we more infrequent visitors lack.

As a resident, local business owner and someone who has invested in the local economy, you have a good sense of what it happening, for better or for worse, and I appreciate your willingness to share your thoughts.

The fact that you have never felt threatened or worried about the safety of your family speaks volumes and is very reassuring. And not being involved with drugs or hanging out with anyone who you are not comfortable with is smart *anywhere* you make your home and using the same precautions you did while living in Tucson makes complete and total sense.

As for the lack of tourists, I really wish more folks would do a little more digging to determine the real story behind what the media portrays so that the businesses and the good folks of RP, including you and Russ and the thousands of others who make RP their home don’t suffer any more than they already have from declining tourist revenue. It really is a treasure of a place and it’s a shame that more people don’t visit.

On another note, congrats on your new business partner and the new name for your old place! And best of luck with this next chapter!
 
Hi gringa....I've been going down to Penasco since 1985....with little kids...now grown. Tent camped, graduating to a trailer. You've received some good advice already, but you don't have to worry about the bacon wrapped shrimp....the "problem" restaurant (as far as I'm concerned...."new" Costa Brava) has long closed!!! There are a few of us who go at each other on here....but I think everyone feels the same about Penasco. As for the violence, we each have our own comfort levels, and act accordingly. I don't head home at 9pm....and have actually closed some of the local places down (3am)....you just have to be aware of your surroundings.

Come down....be aware....enjoy yourself..... I'm heading down on Friday for a few days.
 

gringa

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Thanks again and have a great day!
 

gringa

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Thx RPR! Nice to see more good news about RP, but have mixed feelings about how quiet things are. It's nice to have the place to yourself, but like everyone else, I worry about the local businesses.

Avocado Surprise @Mary's sounds yum and we'll be sure to add the hot dogs at "El Jefe" to our watch list (great directions, BTW, so thanks!) but still need to figure out where those bacon wrapped shrimp are lurking! Any ideas, let me know, k?


 

gringa

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Thanks Costa! Like those before you, I'd like to thank you for both your time and your insight....really, really helpful!

The fact that you are and continue to be comfortable traveling there with your children (and twins, too!) speaks volumes and you really hit the nail on the head with the modifications you have made to adjust to the changing climate in PP.

Good ideas, all and much appreciated! In reading thru your list, we have done much of the same and will continue to do so.

Thanks again for taking the time to share your thoughts and have a great evening!
 

gringa

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Thanks rocktptjoe! WOW, since '85 huh? I think my first trip was in '87 (college tent camping on the beach, sand fleas and all...YECH). Rocky Point certainly has changed over the years, hasn't it, but then again, we have, too!

Good to know about those bacon wrapped shrimp. Heard about Costa Brava (both old and new) but never ate there. Seems we have our faves and by the time we hit all those places, it's time to head back home.

And yes, like any family, it seems that there are some heated debates sometime, but in the end, everyone still loves Penasco (and hopefully each other).

Regarding varying comfort levels, I hear you there, too. I travel to New York often for business and have walked thru the city on my own late at night, so it is all about comfort levels, awareness and knowing your surroundings.

Thanks again for your time and insight and for taking the time to reply to this post! And safe travels this weekend! We're still working out our travel dates, bit hope to visit in the very near future,

Thanks again and happy Friday!
 

Rocky Point Rides

Relax.....we're driving!!
..............but still need to figure out where those bacon wrapped shrimp are lurking! Any ideas, let me know, k?
luckly you will be able to find shrimp wrap in bacon aka "Carlos V", V as in 5th, basically in any restaurant I personally like to eat them at "La Cocina de Ramon" who has 2 locations one in town kind of hidden and the other is one of the Sonora resorts, not sure which one of the Sonoran resorts there are 3, it is fearly new and have not had the chance to go there yet, however knowing Ramon I know the food is good, no, no EXCELLENT in both locations.
No matter what do not forget to ENJOY your trip!!
 
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El Gato

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My DH is 77 and I'm 70 - we moved down full time end of Sept (my family has been coming down since 1848) - We've driven back and forth to the States a couple of times - once at night although that wasn't a good idea as there were a lot of animals on the road. The guards on both sides of the border have been wonderful. We wander around town - go grocery shopping and visit Ace Hardware a lot. We walk Sandy beach. We talk to people a lot - both Mexican and visitors. We are looking forward to our kids, grandkids and great grandkids coming down this Spring. We will give them common sense advice - DO NOT speed through Soyonita! Watch out for people, dogs and topes. DO NOT bring weapons of any sort (our one son-in-law normally travels with a registered handgun in his glove compartment - that is a major no-no). Bring your passport/card and birth certificates for the kids under 16. If bringing the critters have their paperwork in order. Watch for the Organ Cacti on the Sonoran side of the border - they are fantastic. Bring old shoes for tidepool exploring. Prepare to completely relax and have a wonderful time.

As you can tell, we love it and don't want to be any place else (which is why we ended up doing a night drive that one time - we just wanted to get home and out of the traffic, etc. of Phoenix).
 

jerry

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1848..wow no one will top that..Any family pictures from old times ?
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/filibusters/schemers.htm talks of Henry Crabbe's attempt to invade mexico(didn't go to great)

My DH is 77 and I'm 70 - we moved down full time end of Sept (my family has been coming down since 1848) - We've driven back and forth to the States a couple of times - once at night although that wasn't a good idea as there were a lot of animals on the road. The guards on both sides of the border have been wonderful. We wander around town - go grocery shopping and visit Ace Hardware a lot. We walk Sandy beach. We talk to people a lot - both Mexican and visitors. We are looking forward to our kids, grandkids and great grandkids coming down this Spring. We will give them common sense advice - DO NOT speed through Soyonita! Watch out for people, dogs and topes. DO NOT bring weapons of any sort (our one son-in-law normally travels with a registered handgun in his glove compartment - that is a major no-no). Bring your passport/card and birth certificates for the kids under 16. If bringing the critters have their paperwork in order. Watch for the Organ Cacti on the Sonoran side of the border - they are fantastic. Bring old shoes for tidepool exploring. Prepare to completely relax and have a wonderful time.

As you can tell, we love it and don't want to be any place else (which is why we ended up doing a night drive that one time - we just wanted to get home and out of the traffic, etc. of Phoenix).
 

Roberto

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I think you got a lot of really good advice here. Just chiming in to agree with what has been said. That from a 5 year full timer and 10 year visitor. Take care and don't act too stupid, you'll have a great time. Having lived in NYC I can relate to that caution!
 

gringa

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Thanks for the tip/info, RPR! We're working out the details now and hope to be down soon...and will most definitely enjoy our trip!
Thanks again and happy Friday!
 

El Gato

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1848..wow no one will top that..Any family pictures from old times ?
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/filibusters/schemers.htm talks of Henry Crabbe's attempt to invade mexico(didn't go to great)
Just have a couple of them (probably more in the old family photos the kids now have) - one of my Mom with a fish - one of my parents packing the trunk of the car and a picture of our camp (think it was probably either Choya Bay or Sandy Beach - there weren't many people around to say the least!) - that was in Feb of 1948.
 
I appreciate all the info on these forums. I often look but have never before replied. We have never felt unsafe. I have been in RP about once a month for past 4 years with my new husband who owned a condo on Sandy Beach. Liked it so much we bought another so as to have a guest casita with enough room for guests' family to stay. They all come down alot too. Prior to this (6 years) I would go with "trailer trash" family....who stayed on Sandy Beach or stay at Playa Bonita. My now grown kids went camping there with friends in the late 80's, and rented a house as college kids after that. I love it there....if I didn't have to work in Tempe we would go down more as my husband is mostly retired. We frequent as many restaurants shops, and markets as we can. We want to contribute to the economy, plus I have many favorites places to eat.....I only hope they can survive the economy.

Re safety: We have never had any problem. One time got a speeding ticket going home...coming into Sonoita, right where the speed limit abruptly drops. Officer was very polite. We deserved ticket as we were guilty. Another time got the RED light crossing the border and had to unload stuff....I tripped on the bumps in pavement and crashed to the ground...The Mexican border personnel were so concerned that I was OK.. brought me a chair .....put everything back in car for me, kept asking if I was OK. Very nice. That's about it for run-ins with authority. I worry more about the crazy U.S. drivers killing us on the road to RP.

We are pretty laid back.....just want to sit at beach or balcony and look at the ocean, swim, paddle around. Love the sunsets. Just want to eat, drink wine and margaritas...by the way .....Anyone know where to buy decent wine in town?
 

Roberto

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WINE !!
On the right hand side of Benito Juarez going toward the Old Port, just where the railroad crosses Benito Juarez. Crucero I think it's called, next to a pharmacy. Crucero has a huge wine selection, it's in the back room if you stop by there. Be prepared for sticker shock though. I have found decent wine, one French, one Argentinian, for around $6 but the California wines like Kendel Jackson are very high and they don' t have much Italian wine. There are some very expensive , $50 bottles of Mexican wine that I'd love to try but don't want to risk it at that cost. I buy or have friends bring down (thanks Eduardo) 5 Liter boxes of Merlot. Very drinkable, I prefer the Vella brand myself, less than $20. You can legally bring down 5 Liters per person I am told.
Provecho !!
 

gringa

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Thanks El Gato! Sounds like you and your sweetie are living the good life in PP! Congrats on your full time move! That's fantastic!

And 1848? Wow, that is some history! I'd love to see some photo from those days if you have any!

We hear you about the night driving as our plans have always included drivng during the day, but we always seem to chase that daylight back to Lukeville if you know what I mean. There is something to be said for that sand gravity!

Sounds like we're pretty low key, like the two of you, and enjoy wandering around town, along the shore and of course a yummy meal. And I think it's great that your family visits, too (wow! great grandkids, how cool is that!!)

And yes, like so many others, you have provided great info and sage advice, esp. about Soyonita (THANK YOU)! And the old shoes for tidepool exploring was a great reminder...I always seem to forget that!

Ahhhhh...to completely relax, now **that** is what we need!

Thanks so much for sharing your story and replying to this post. My husband and I really do appreciate everyone's time and comments and are looking forward to our next trip! Hope to see you on Sandy Beach soon!
 
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gringa

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I sure did, Roberto, and I am really happy that I posted the question! Good to hear from another full timer, too, so thanks for your reply! I really had no idea there were so many of you and hope to meet you all one day soon!

Tell me, does the forum host regular (like quarterly) get-togethers or is it more informal than that, like maybe happy hour next Friday at Jim's place, the Hideaway?
(now that he's changed the name, we're more apt to go, so thanks Jim!)
 
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gringa

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Just have a couple of them (probably more in the old family photos the kids now have) - one of my Mom with a fish - one of my parents packing the trunk of the car and a picture of our camp (think it was probably either Choya Bay or Sandy Beach - there weren't many people around to say the least!) - that was in Feb of 1948.
Oh, please post them, if you can, and if you can't, let me know and maybe my husband could scan them for you! I'm sure those old photos are amazing!
 

gringa

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WOW! I cannot get over everyone's response to this post! All good news and that is so nice to hear! Thanks for your post, too Marjie and for taking the time to reply with your thoughts. I really do appreciate it!

Like you, I find all of the info and the people on these forums so helpful and really appreciate having it as a resource. And like you, we were lurkers too, but I am so happy I spoke up and posted!

Nice to know that you, too, feel safe and have over the past 4 years and that you have a family compound here now! We hope to have one some day, too.

HA at the "trailer trash" comment! Back in college, we were too poor for even a trailer, so I guess we were tent trash! LOL

Would love to hear about your fav restaurants, shops and markets, too, so please let us know. Like you, we want to contribute to the local economy as much as we can and are eager to try some new places as well!

On another note, sorry to hear about your ticket, but happy to know it was uneventful And that trip at the border crossing, ouch! Happy to know it was not serious and that they helped you put your things back in the car.

And I hear you about the crazy U.S. drivers! Those are the ones you have to watch out for!

Like you, we are pretty low key, too. Just find me a sunny spot on the beach or balcony to I can enjoy the sound of the ocean and I will be just fine. And those sunsets...amazing! Yep, good food, great wine and amazing sunsets...just we need.

Now, about that wine...

:)
 
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