Wierd scene coming into Rocky Point today.

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Tom the Surfcaster
Hi everyone! I thank all who posted info on this event. As one who just comes 3 or 4 times a year and goes further south most of those trips, this hasn't changed anything for me. I think the media has gone full "Boy who cried wolf" when it comes to Penasco. Most of the past "is it safe" flurries followed incidents that had little or nothing to do with Rocky Point. When something actually happens? One day coverage and back to our local shootings of the day. One of those local shootings a week ago involved one of my offspring as "wounded by gun shot and taken to the hospital." This was at a friend's apartment in a nice complex in Tempe. One young man was killed by the nut bag that shot my loved one. I am coming back to Penasco as soon as I can make it. I would take my adult children and their little tiny ones without hesitation. That being said, what went down on Sandy Beach was pretty crazy and real scary for all those nearby. You guys have kept Stuart really busy and he has not put down his whistle or taken off the striped shirt since the bullets flew. Play nice. Take care and stay safe on both sides of the fence.

Tom the surfcaster
 
Kenny

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geezer said:
okay the cheerleading for rocky point is a little creepy.....a couple military helicopters came in and fired into a condo complex, there was a machine-gun car chase through the streets, trucks blown up, bodies were stolen. Banks were closed... I would think that could make the beach seem not so fun
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Around here they just call it progress.
 
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1. We will never know every detail of what, why and how
2. This is the point where forums become counter productive with he said, I heard, my taco guy told me...
3. Personally, I would consider the safety record of the tourist area over the last 10 years or so? Has this happened before? Is it a continual problem or was it a 1st time event? No different than if we heard that the same Safeway in Tucson had multiple shootouts and innocent lives lost in more than one occasion... that would be cause for concern. If we are talking about an isolated incident, do we live our lives based on isolated incidents of violence?
4. Again, we will never know all the details.
5. Whats ironic is that those who say I will never go back... are often the ones that do come back. I understand and I am empathetic to those who were in the complex and even those who were in Esmeralda (having a complex between them and the action). Sometimes it is best to breath and take a break from the blogs and news and assess everything at a later date. Remember how many of us obsessed watching 23hrs a day of the events of 9-11? At some point the rumors become wild and that is when too much media and too much info is not healthy.
 
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geezer said:
and why does the government allow the guy they want to kill to be part owner and a resident at a tourist condo complex? Why is this wise to promote tourism? How is this a safe situation for our grand children? Can I get the official list of which hotels have cartel owners? It seems the Federal Gov has this information, right?
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What? They would be the worlds dumbest criminals to buy stuff using their real names. Ask the US government for a list of gang members in your neighborhood or the hotel you stay at next time.
 
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geezer said:
and why does the government allow the guy they want to kill to be part owner and a resident at a tourist condo complex? Why is this wise to promote tourism? How is this a safe situation for our grand children? Can I get the official list of which hotels have cartel owners? It seems the Federal Gov has this information, right?
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Oh come on. You really think he just strolled into Bella Sirena with a real estate agent one day and said, "I wanna buy a villa or condo." They said okay, fill out this application for our homeowner's association and he did.

Name: Macho Prieto
Occupation: Sr. Vice President, Northwest Region, Sinaloa Cartel
References: Chapo Guzman

At which time the President of the HOA of Bella Sirena, called the Mexican government and they said: "We're sorry Mr. Prieto, we don't allow people like you to live here." I heard they have vacancies at the Sonoran Sky, though!"
 
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dry heat said:
1. At some point the rumors become wild and that is when too much media and too much info is not healthy.
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Known you for years Benny and what you're worried about not being healthy or getting unhealthy, is your bottom line.
 
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mis2810 said:
Oh come on. You really think he just strolled into Bella Sirena with a real estate agent one day and said, "I wanna buy a villa or condo." They said okay, fill out this application for our homeowner's association and he did.

Name: Macho Prieto
Occupation: Sr. Vice President, Northwest Region, Sinaloa Cartel
References: Chapo Guzman

At which time the President of the HOA of Bella Sirena, called the Mexican government and they said: "We're sorry Mr. Prieto, we don't allow people like you to live here." I heard they have vacancies at the Sonoran Sky, though!"
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I think they have at least two of the huge villas at Las Palmas ;)
 
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My question in this whole thing is how did his body disappear? I assume he was killed at the complex and then taken away. we only have 2 or 3 exit roads from the area. did he get on a jet sky or banana boat? I thought the entire area was on lock down with military, how does a speeding car running away from the scene and avoid a helicopter, navy and military on the only 2 roads (with no one else on the road)? Jack Bauer would be proud of that escape. (serious question), how do the authorities know he was killed if he was taken away by his group? Did they check his pulse and then took a smoke break and left the body? If this was a sting operation for a few months, how do you let the #1 target disappear? Sounds like a bad comedy. I could just see it "paco, you stand here and watch this body... paco gets hungry and leaves post. drug lords buddy was under the next car waiting for the perfect moment to take the body and drive out (he had an parking pass from the HOA so it was the cover he needed).
 
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"A federal official said Gonzalo Inzunza was killed and his body taken away by the shootout survivors."

What survivors? I thought that they shot all the bad guys. If there were any cartel survivors, then they didn't finish the job and did not plan the raid as good as is being said. If there were more, then they should have been caught of killed as well.
 
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Well in all fairness, they did just leave all those bodies out there for tourists to drive by and video tape. So I guess they had plenty of time
 
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Aye carumba!!!
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lagrimas85 said:
Yea right, he is 1 of the survivors. Thats just how it works.
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Indeed.

He's dead. The government said so. The government NEVER lies. Bwhahaha!
Pretty hard to prove anybody is dead WITHOUT A BODY.

Commander to Mexican Private: "You SURE it was Macho you shot, right Private?"
Private: "Si, senor. It was him."
Commander: "You'd SWEAR that, right?"
Private: "Si, senor... on my madre's grave!"
Commander: "So... where's the body?"
Private: "Uhh... it was laying right there a minute ago."



The Attack on Rocky Point - Part Deux - Zombie Macho Returns! (and he's pissed!)

Better hope the military has lots of Hornaday bullets. And ALWAYS double-tap! :D

 
dry heat

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I think at this point you just have to laugh and cry at the same time. Here is mine...
gumshoe: Senor, I went for a mango break and I was only gone for 1 minute.
jefe: why did the military, navy, DEA agent, military convoy not see them sneak away?
gumshoe: I think they were distracted by a tourist in Esmeralda that was doing on the scene interviews from his balcony
jefe: ayayayay
 
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I was there staying at Las Palmas 305 when it happened. Saw plainclothes people in the parking lot acting real sneaky (peeking around corners) stashing pistols under a truck in the parking lot, then coming back to get them. Same guys were run off by security, then police kicked in 105 (2 floors directly below) and found machine guns w/grenade launchers on them. Right where they were previously. I really think we may have seen 2 of the 'bad guys'.

Later saw the new Rolls out there talking to 2 men, when everyone else was taking cover.

Left Las Palmas at 2:00 to go eat downtown, packed up before we left. Took photos of all the shot up cars along the way. (5 of them) went to Bella Sirena taking photos of the outside and cars when a fellow told me about the shot up bulletproof glass SUV inside the complex. Decided to walk down and take some photos....Ooops Mexican military (brown camo) snagged me immediately on my walk down to it. They noticed my camera.


First 2 guys spoke no english and called for another guy (I'm by myself) who does speak english. "Did you take photos?" Only of the palm trees here...I replied. "SHOW ME" he demanded. I had to show him my photos. All the shot up cars, helicopters....empty bullet casings. He said "You know in Mexico you can go to jail for taking these photos....I can call my boss over here" I replied with a that's Ok, I'll delete them no problem, sorry.

he was asking my name, what type work you do? where you live? WHY you take these pictures? Luckily I had some photos of food from lunch, and some condo photos. Otherwise I think I would have been in a heap of $%#% Tense moment, for sure.DSC_1816f (Custom).jpg
 
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I think it's this kind of crap that scares people away as much, or maybe even more than the incidents themselves
 
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