This doesn't help tourism!

lobonegro

Junior Member
You chose to circumvent the sign and virtual fence.
What if you would of pulled up and asked about the property and if it’s for sale. People get scammed on internet every day sorry amigo maybe try to get your money back but blaming owners is not getting you anywhere.
what’s a virtual fence? Is that like the ones that shock the dogs? circumventing is an intentional act…you would have to know about the sign to circumvent it. It wasn’t an internet scam. It was listed by a well known international company. “Blaming owners”…. I’ve only stated what I know and have seen with my own eyes, and when I don’t know something for sure, I try to make that clear. You say I’m blaming the owners….I have a fideicomiso, bank trust, etc…the state and city said I am the owner….that’s the whole point. You can’t have 2 owners of 1 property After the sale, I found out another person holds interest in the area and documents supporting court rulings in his favor. I have never seen them and don’t know how definitive they would be on the issue.
i should not bother explaining It again to people that cant see the bigger picture. If you are friends with the Saenz and just supporting them, that’s cool. thats what friends are for. This isn’t a vendetta against the Saenz. the entire real estate process has failed in dramatic fashion. In a town with an economy based on tourism, (beach rentals included) This is a big problem. Sam Saenz reached out to me…we hope to arrange a meeting sometime. As a positive, all this info will be discoverable to alert future buyers. If we can get this settled, I’ll make more signs for Omar myself!!
 
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Idyllwild

Well Known Member
Your potential adverse parties are tightly limiting their public comments on this, which is prudent given the implied threat of litigation. You might learn from their example, because if you do sue someone you will see these posts again. The internet can fix a lot of problems, but sometimes it takes a good lawyer. Best of luck.
 

playaperro

El Pirata
what’s a virtual fence? Is that like the ones that shock the dogs? circumventing is an intentional act…you would have to know about the sign to circumvent it. It wasn’t an internet scam. It was listed by a well known international company. “Blaming owners”…. I’ve only stated what I know and have seen with my own eyes, and when I don’t know something for sure, I try to make that clear. I’m You say I’m blaming the owners….I have a fideicomiso, bank trust, etc…the state and city said I am the owner….that’s the whole point. You can’t have 2 owners of 1 property After the sale, I found out another person holds interest in the area and documents supporting court rulings in his favor. I have never seen them and don’t know how definitive they would be on the issue.
i should not bother explaining It again to people that cant see the bigger picture. If you are friends with the Saenz and just supporting them, that’s cool. thats what friends are for. This isn’t a vendetta against the Saenz. the entire real estate process has failed in dramatic fashion. In a town with an economy based on tourism, (beach rentals included) This is a big problem. Sam Saenz reached out to me…we hope to arrange a meeting sometime. As a positive, all this info will be discoverable to alert future buyers. If we can get this settled, I’ll make more signs for Omar myself!!
 

Old55

Well Known Member
The sellers, a four owner group including a realtor got some splanning to do as Ricky Ricardo used to say. Perro you might mention your posting the neighbors reports on the property condition etc. turned out to be bullshit too…..mistakes happen
 

playaperro

El Pirata
what’s a virtual fence? Is that like the ones that shock the dogs? circumventing is an intentional act…you would have to know about the sign to circumvent it. It wasn’t an internet scam. It was listed by a well known international company. “Blaming owners”…. I’ve only stated what I know and have seen with my own eyes, and when I don’t know something for sure, I try to make that clear. You say I’m blaming the owners….I have a fideicomiso, bank trust, etc…the state and city said I am the owner….that’s the whole point. You can’t have 2 owners of 1 property After the sale, I found out another person holds interest in the area and documents supporting court rulings in his favor. I have never seen them and don’t know how definitive they would be on the issue.
i should not bother explaining It again to people that cant see the bigger picture. If you are friends with the Saenz and just supporting them, that’s cool. thats what friends are for. This isn’t a vendetta against the Saenz. the entire real estate process has failed in dramatic fashion. In a town with an economy based on tourism, (beach rentals included) This is a big problem. Sam Saenz reached out to me…we hope to arrange a meeting sometime. As a positive, all this info will be discoverable to alert future buyers. If we can get this settled, I’ll make more signs for Omar myself!!
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richwi

Well Known Member
I am really curious what SQ Advisors has to say. We have used them and they have been great, but it sounds like your experience with them is very different.
 

lobonegro

Junior Member
me Too! No real answers so far. It’s very frustrating to be stuck in The middle of a realtor and closer with stellar records and reputations and a guy with vocal supporters who would do business with him anytime. Everyone involved is said to be a good upstanding person, but my pockets are empty and I have no house To show for it. I’ve spent so much time and money trying to resolve this, something has got to give. I would like a chance to sit down with the Saenz and get to the bottom of this
 

CheddarBob

Well Known Member
me Too! No real answers so far. It’s very frustrating to be stuck in The middle of a realtor and closer with stellar records and reputations and a guy with vocal supporters who would do business with him anytime. Everyone involved is said to be a good upstanding person, but my pockets are empty and I have no house To show for it. I’ve spent so much time and money trying to resolve this, something has got to give. I would like a chance to sit down with the Saenz and get to the bottom of this
Have you received a call from Sammy? I understand he was requesting contact info. Maybe Sammy was just blowing smoke up everyone’s backside to cool the social media heat down. Time to ramp it up again. Except SQ needs to be slaughtere.
 

lobonegro

Junior Member
Sammy did message me that this should not happen again to other buyers, but no call yet. I understand he is in Tucson? I would drive over to sit down and chat. i went over to the Facebook page to post a few pics and answer a few questions….but all responses have been pending for about a week….am I blocked? It wasn’t anything inflammatory….why the block?
SQ has been a no show on 5 different meetings. Champions at ghosting
 

CheddarBob

Well Known Member
Very interesting that Sammy has indicated that this should not happen again instead of saying never happen again. Camon Sammy you could do better.
 
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Ron Burgundy

Junior Member
In the “general” section on the forum, there is a subject line of “Tijuana flights”. That Omar dude is interviewed in the video by the podcast host, as he gets off the first flight from Tijuana.

Feel bad for your plight. I know many of people who have had these experiences and they absolutely loved the beach, loved Rocky Point, loved the people , and they built up a distain that doesn’t allow them to ever come back.
Yep, this is me. Invested in the La Perla Del Mar condo tower in The Mirador 15-20 or so years ago. The developer took everyone's cash, built nothing, and got away with it untouched thanks to the actions/protection of the local government. Sadly it sounds like nothing has changed down there. I got lucky, in my case the developer cashed our down payment checks in Scottsdale, and due to this the AZ Attorney General's office went after him on our (the 40 or so investors) behalf. Amazingly, we all got about 2/3 of our money back. I never went back to Mexico after that, vowing never to spend a cent there ever again.
 

Old55

Well Known Member
Your potential adverse parties are tightly limiting their public comments on this, which is prudent given the implied threat of litigation. You might learn from their example, because if you do sue someone you will see these posts again. The internet can fix a lot of problems, but sometimes it takes a good lawyer. Best of luck.
Obottom line…this whole area is a shit show…avoid buying anything there…the flood risks from hurricanes , the crappy roads , Omar ,the Spanish grifters , the water issues ….and as this shows no one has your back…no one
 

Old55

Well Known Member
Yep, this is me. Invested in the La Perla Del Mar condo tower in The Mirador 15-20 or so years ago. The developer took everyone's cash, built nothing, and got away with it untouched thanks to the actions/protection of the local government. Sadly it sounds like nothing has changed down there. I got lucky, in my case the developer cashed our down payment checks in Scottsdale, and due to this the AZ Attorney General's office went after him on our (the 40 or so investors) behalf. Amazingly, we all got about 2/3 of our money back. I never went back to Mexico after that, vowing never to spend a cent there ever again.
We almost never hear these stories ( awesome you got the cash back! Who was the developer?) because the people screwed out of their money , the owners near by , the realtor community all fear getting sideways with influental people while there is even a slight chance of getting whole.With the next recession breathing down our necks ( black swan Ukraine invasion , inflation related monetary adjustments, R’s happy to blow up economy to win 2024 j it just seems a bad time to buy…..
 
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