What was in the Sea Today ?

Roberto

Guest
Anyone notice something unusual about the sea today? I thought it was very blue. The sea was very calm and flat with only small undulating waves. Then in the old port I noticed something floating on the surface. There were many expanses of whatever it was. It broke the surface enough to give the smoothness some very slight appearance of texture which was variagated, not consistent but did not project above the sea. There was no obvious change in color where the islands floated. It apeared like a smear sort of like an oil spill, or maybe soap scum, but I'm sure they were not that. I would say definately not seaweed either. They had no profile above the water that one could see. The 'islands' as I though of them were elongated and floating to the east. They were only noticable when the light of the sun was reflecting towards me, otherwise they were not noticeable.

Plankton bloom ??
 

MIRAMAR

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I saw last weekend what looked like a red tide, but then it went away with the higher waves. I say red tide because the sea was so blue, but the dark area looked more redish in color. Also there were more dead birds (mostly small) on shore. I've only seen red tide once in Penasco.
 
I got in town at about 5 today and couldn't tell anything unusual because of the way the sun was setting as it was hitting me directly in the face.
 

Estero

Guest
Crappy Translation but yes Red Tide...not good. Astute observation Roberto!

It covers 80 kilometers of red tide in the Sea of Cortez; would last up to three months

A red tide that extends over more than 80 kilometers on the north coast of the Sea of Cortez has killed thousands of birds and hundreds of marine mammals, said Ernesto Garcia Mendoza, who described this extraordinary phenomenon occurred since on 3 January.

Researcher Department of Biological Oceanography Center for Scientific Research and Higher Education of Ensenada (CICESE) explained that the red tide could last up to three months. It is an event that has no precedent scientific, healthcare and fisheries in the last 20 years in California, he said.

The phenomenon has attracted the attention of the international scientific community by mass poisoning that causes paralytic marine species and their impact on the marine ecosystem.

The specialist explained that this phenomenon is due to the reproduction of generating microscopic algae Phytotoxins the PSP type, which have already killed humans in other regions of Mexico.

The Laboratory also responsible services, monitoring and research on phytotoxins associated with HAB (Ficotox) reported that red tide has caused havoc among various species.

In a 700-meter beach found 340 dead birds.

Know the total number, but we know high death rates from Puerto Peñasco to San Felipe, a stretch of about 80 kilometers, explained García, who went to the disaster site accompanied by 10 scientific and technical Cicese for fieldwork.

They also killed an unspecified number of sea lions and dolphins, which consume large quantities of sardines and anchovies. On Monday a dead adult dolphin was found in good condition for testing.

The January 15 passed the Federal Attorney for Environmental Protection (Profepa) warned of the death of 550 birds and four sea lions in San Felipe, Baja California, because of the red tide.

An estimated 90 percent of the dead birds are diving ducks. They found in their waste remains of what appear to be sardines or anchovies contaminated with PSP fitotoxina present in the phytoplankton.

Garcia asked the Profepa and the Directorate for Protection against Health Risks Institute of Public Health Services of Baja California, which decreed ban the capture and commercialization of bivalve molluscs and other species like marine performing chemical analysis of brain, lung, contained stomach, liver and heart of the mammal. We exclude the presence of other toxins in dead animals, said Garcia, who has ruled whales affected so far.

On the causes of the phenomenon, which has strained four growers export geoduck fishermen and coastal San Felipe (Mexicali), the scientist said there are three hypotheses: the increasing pollution of the ocean, sea physicochemical changes phenomena Spherical weather as El Niño and La Niña, and one or more landslides caused by winter rains, which dragged the sea nutrients for algae that produce the toxin.

In any case, we anticipate that it was one or more of these factors in extraordinary proportions, totally unusual, since the fitotoxina counts are well above the norm.

-What Are so high these measurements?
Twenty times the maximum limit for human consumption, which is 500 toxic cells per liter.

He stressed that the Phytotoxins remain at sea even after the disappearance of the red tide, but their levels are no longer dangerous to humans.

Generally, he said, bivalve molluscs eat, metabolized and gradually purify these compounds, but if humans consume before the end of the cycle can be poisoned.

In Mexico, he added, the only toxin that has caused human deaths is a paralyzing type: saxitoxin, as today has massive presence in the high Mar de Cortes. It is the same as between 1979 and 2002 resulted in Chiapas and Guerrero 300 poisonings and 24 deaths.

There is a positive side of the emergency: It is generating a lot of information and knowledge about these outcrops, which favors the newly created Research Network harmful algal blooms (Redfan), coordinated by Garcia Mendoza.

In this network scientists from several institutions of higher education and research on this phenomenon and its socio-economic, health and environmental impact involved.

The National Council for Science and Technology has offered an annual budget of 4.5 million dollars, and will be the basis of national research program on HAB.
 
Estero, that's a lot of info. For my "non-scientific" mind, what does that mean for the average tourist coming down in Feb/March? We eat out a lot. Take some shrimp/scallops back home. Want to try the oyster farm. Walk the dogs on the beach everyday. Take at least one fishing trip. How will it affect us? Thanks.
 

JimMcG

Guest
Don't go in the water while it is red and yes it can kill wildlife and people. Once the red color goes away, it will get back to normal. Red tides are not that uncommon around the world, including California.
 

Landshark

Guest
Cool find! One of my favorite things to do is walking the beach to see what's there. Is that a Humboldt Squid?
 
So what is the verdict? Is there a red tide or not? It seems this should be a big deal, anything changing habits locally? Or just business as usual?
 
Business as usual...............

Just more Chicken Little the Sky is Falling Tree Hugger Krap.

22 Jan 15 Cholla Bay.....dug up around 150 clams, 20 mussels, 10 rock scallops, 6 giant pen shells and one octopus. Steamed and sauteed em all up and six of us devoured at feast.

23 Jan 15 Bahia San Jorge.....picked up around 100 clams and 20 rock scallops. Steamed and sauteed em all up and six of us devoured another feast.

24 Jan 15 Laguna Salada.....dug up around 100 clams. Steamed em up and six of us devoured another feast.

25 Jan 15 Bahia Adair.....dug up around 100 clams. Steamed em up and six of us devoured another feast.

26 Jan 15 El Golfo de Santa Clara.....bought a sack of around 200 clams, Steamed em up, bagged em up for chowder enhancement and ate ten or fifteen while baggin.

29 Jan 15 Yuma Arizona.....sittin here in front of this computer. I can still see, read and kinda write....Red Tide? Dream on!

As for the bird die off.....more Krap!

Every waterbird from the west side of the Rocky Mountains from Alaska to So Cal is wintering on the Gulf of California right now. There is a lot of sea out there and a little line of flotsam along the beach. Birds do die and when they do they FLOAT. The winds mostly blow down from the north west at this time of the year so where do the end up?

There was no red tide last weekend, just business as usual, a nice big tide for gathering a free feast of marine bivalves that were perfectly safe to eat.

JJ
 
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ALMEJA PINGA DE CABALLO.....

23 Jan 15 Bahia San Jorge. Several pangas were loading these things into a cold storage truck to be shipped to China. It is the Geoduck or Gooeyduck clam. Sr. Panguero told me that they go for one hundred bucks each in Chino Landia. Each boat had a high pressure water pump with a fifty foot long hose that they use under water to blow em out of the sand. Also, an air pump for breathing air for the "hooka" scuba diver.

Man-o-man what-a-life!

JJ
 

Roberto

Guest
Saw the same or very similar phenomenon today on the beach at Unconscious. Sea was calm and pretty flat. Tide coming in, no shorlie surf. Stuff was comng in on the tide so I strolled out a bit. There were numerous little floating 'islands' gathered together from 6 inches or so and down. I scooped some up and the floaters were composed of floating sand !! If I poked at one going buy it would simply dissolve and float down to the bottom. Water was clear, no evidence of and redness whatsoever. Floating sand, who would have thought it ??
 
Flounder Farts!

They encase them in sand so the bait fish can't smell em. Sneaky shits aren't they! Realllly good eatin' though.

JJ
 

Roberto

Guest
Oh well so much for an interesting discussion about the sea of Cortez. How about Tequila !! That always gets a lot of interest. Whadda ya say there Mr. Jungle, wha'ts yer brand ??
 

Kenny

Guest
Business as usual...............

Just more Chicken Little the Sky is Falling Tree Hugger Krap.

22 Jan 15 Cholla Bay.....dug up around 150 clams, 20 mussels, 10 rock scallops, 6 giant pen shells and one octopus. Steamed and sauteed em all up and six of us devoured at feast.

23 Jan 15 Bahia San Jorge.....picked up around 100 clams and 20 rock scallops. Steamed and sauteed em all up and six of us devoured another feast.

24 Jan 15 Laguna Salada.....dug up around 100 clams. Steamed em up and six of us devoured another feast.

25 Jan 15 Bahia Adair.....dug up around 100 clams. Steamed em up and six of us devoured another feast.

26 Jan 15 El Golfo de Santa Clara.....bought a sack of around 200 clams, Steamed em up, bagged em up for chowder enhancement and ate ten or fifteen while baggin.

29 Jan 15 Yuma Arizona.....sittin here in front of this computer. I can still see, read and kinda write....Red Tide? Dream on!

As for the bird die off.....more Krap!

Every waterbird from the west side of the Rocky Mountains from Alaska to So Cal is wintering on the Gulf of California right now. There is a lot of sea out there and a little line of flotsam along the beach. Birds do die and when they do they FLOAT. The winds mostly blow down from the north west at this time of the year so where do the end up?

There was no red tide last weekend, just business as usual, a nice big tide for gathering a free feast of marine bivalves that were perfectly safe to eat.

JJ
We have a saying here about fish caught, even shellfish. No pictures and it didn't happen.:D
 
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Tequila Heradura Blanco...

That juice leaves so many dead brain cells per shot that you'll never have enough left alive for a hangover...

The only clam-pics worth looking at are the ones in the fish market.

(No porn links, por favor - Stuart)

JJ
 
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