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jerry

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From Defrente. Things seem to be heating up.....
Responding municipal police aggression armed once again demonstrated the commitment of officers with the security of the Rocky puertopenasquenses, 30 November 2013-the driver of a vehicle who committed an administrative offence to failure to comply with a regulatory halt, shot with a firearm of high power against elements of Municipal public security in an attempt to not be stopped.
The incident took place around 02:00 o'clock this Saturday at the intersection of avenida Luis Encinas and 21st Street in the colonia Ferrocarrilera, when police officers marked signal so stop the running of your car.
At that time, the soldiers feel that their physical integrity was at stake, repelled the armed aggression with five shots injuring the occupant of the vehicle Chevrolet Trail Blaizer, identified as Miguel Donato Avilés Yocupicio, native of Navojoa, Sonora.
He then, Avilés Yocupicio, 20 years of age, undertook the flight marked excess of speed by the avenida Luis Encinas South, and to lose control of the unit is struck against a fence of a housing by turning the vehicle, knocking in addition a Palm and causing other damage.
Later, the alleged offender came out of his car with a rifle and fled by dint of race and blocks later collapsed due to the fact that he was wounded, was there when the municipal police officers managed to arrest him and requested the support of the Red Cross.
Avilés Yocupicio was transferred to the General Hospital where he received medical attention and despite injuries by firearm to take more than 15 days to heal, they do not put risk his life.
The scene was attended by elements of the police State researcher (PEI), staff of the Naval sector, Federal Police, expert services, and the public prosecutor's Office ordered the lifting of the vehicle within which others secured three long guns and two bulletproof vests.
DIRECTOR OF SOCIAL COMMUNICATION (Translated by Bing)

Tonight.....
Un asalto a un autobús de pasajeros se registro hace unos momentos en el km 19 de la carretera Caborca - Puerto Peñasco. No se reportan heridos. Mas información...
An assault on a passenger bus is registration earlier at km 19 of the Caborca - rocky road. No reported injuries. More information... (Translated by Bing)
 

mexicoruss

Lovin it in RP!
Thanks for the awesome update - I for one will be more careful in that particular neighborhood (my hood) from now on. It's awesome you are keeping us all safe Jer, thanks! If it wasn't for the hard you of and others on the forum, who knows what kind of mayhem would ensue. I think maybe someone should pick up on your astuteness and do the same for the gringos living in Tucson and Phoenix, why are we better than them? sarc on blah blah blah!
 
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jerry

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Thanks for the awesome update - I for one will be more careful in that particular neighborhood (my hood) from now on. It's awesome you are keeping us all safe Jer, thanks! If it wasn't for the hard you of and others on the forum, who knows what kind of mayhem would ensue. I think maybe someone should pick up on your astuteness and do the same for the gringos living in Tucson and Phoenix, why are we better than them? sarc on blah blah blah!
Well thanks Russ,just doing my part to help new forum members from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.In Arizona we do have news sources that report crime and most people have local knowledge of their community....RP is another story for most forum members.....keep being sunny.....
 

playaperro

El Pirata
Yeah that trailblazer was really smashed up, poor house too, at least the one on Sinaloa last night was more civil.
 

ron

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Jerry, I happen to like reading the articles you post. Keep up the good work. I say it is best to be informed whether it is good or bad news. Why bury your head in the sand and not know what is going on?
 
Well thanks Russ,just doing my part to help new forum members from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.In Arizona we do have news sources that report crime and most people have local knowledge of their community....RP is another story for most forum members.....keep being sunny.....
Jerry I appreciate your updates. You are doing a real service for us. Keep it up.
 

jerry

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Thanks for the awesome update - I for one will be more careful in that particular neighborhood (my hood) from now on. It's awesome you are keeping us all safe Jer, thanks! If it wasn't for the hard you of and others on the forum, who knows what kind of mayhem would ensue. I think maybe someone should pick up on your astuteness and do the same for the gringos living in Tucson and Phoenix, why are we better than them? sarc on blah blah blah!
Just returned from a month in Tasmania (awesome place) and sad to say my prediction of violence came true.The local lying boosters that knew this was in the cards need to just shut up from now on.My sources hope things are over but have a way different back story to this event.This information does worry me a bit but for now I think we are ok.After the new year more may be coming.
 
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jerry

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Everybody does their jobs, I take people on tour, I leave the bad guys alone, the marines take out the bad guys - they leave the tour guy alone. The tourist want to drink around town and they have nothing to do with the bad guys, they are left alone. If I want to insist on making every piece of news that is bad part or our life....Jerry can do it. Life is good and everybody has their job, get in their face and it may fall apart. So Jerry I will try to not get in your biz of reporting anything bad in your effort to info everybody about things that dont involve them. When I talk to the locals about this event....its no concern, the bad guys for the most part were very unwelcome by all. But hey Jerry, thanks for trying to sensationalize everything bad........I especially like the term "RUNNING gun battles" yeah the cops should wait till the perps park or something lol, sorry your thought process brinks on silly
Had to bring this one to the front!!!!, way to see the future Russ!
 
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jerry

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Glad you have it all figured,but in the real world a few things are in flux such as the road issues from Penasco south could get a guy killed.Terry just gave a piece of advise to a forum reader that might have been a life saver.It is peak harvest season and the cartel truce may be ending. woud it have hurt one of you locals to note that a gun battle on the only highway most people will ever take to Penasco was happening?
Next time you booster Buttheads call bs on me remember this post from Nov. 23!
 
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jerry

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Well thanks Russ,just doing my part to help new forum members from being in the wrong place at the wrong time.In Arizona we do have news sources that report crime and most people have local knowledge of their community....RP is another story for most forum members.....keep being sunny.....
This one too! The story is not being told on the Dec. shoot out and we need to be honest with fellow Mexico lovers.Great work by forum people now if a good reporter starts looking into who really owns what in Puerto Penasco we might have a safer city to have fun in and around.
 
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Long time no chat Jerry, looks like you have kept up intruding reality into the cheerleaders with their heads in the sand. They still don't get that until they stop spending American dollars in Mexico nothing will change.
 
This one too! The story is not being told on the Dec. shoot out and we need to be honest with fellow Mexico lovers.Great work by forum people now if a good reporter starts looking into who really owns what in Puerto Penasco we might have a safer city to have fun in and around.
Jerry,
That report would be a huge bucket of worms that None of the local business owners and politicians would want to be opened.
For those who doubt there are more bad people visiting/living in town, just look at all the $75k SUV's with Mexico plates driving around and
in the parking lots of the resorts on Sandy Beach. (During the warmer months)
Yes, safer would reassure those who are on the fence about visiting RP.
 
Jerry,
That report would be a huge bucket of worms that None of the local business owners and politicians would want to be opened.
For those who doubt there are more bad people visiting/living in town, just look at all the $75k SUV's with Mexico plates driving around and
in the parking lots of the resorts on Sandy Beach. (During the warmer months)
Yes, safer would reassure those who are on the fence about visiting RP.
LOL .....FACT Mexico has a lot of wealthy people living in it who own nice cars and many wealthy Mexicans from other cities do vacation in RP....According to your theory Tempe has thousands of drug lords because the nice cars from Scottsdale drive thru there..........unbelievable
 

Sub

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LOL .....FACT Mexico has a lot of wealthy people living in it who own nice cars and many wealthy Mexicans from other cities do vacation in RP....According to your theory Tempe has thousands of drug lords because the nice cars from Scottsdale drive thru there..........unbelievable
More FACTS? You can provide us with census information for Rocky Point?
 

Mexico Joe

Cholla Bay 4 Life
LOL .....FACT Mexico has a lot of wealthy people living in it who own nice cars and many wealthy Mexicans from other cities do vacation in RP....According to your theory Tempe has thousands of drug lords because the nice cars from Scottsdale drive thru there..........unbelievable

I wouldn't argue with Jerry, he is a SONORAN GOD and thus knows more about the region than you could ever comprehend.
 

Roberto

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Besides, he's a Commie, Pinko, Ratfink. Roberto asked me to take over while he was gone.
Well I'm Baaaaccck !! I did not leave town because of any percieved danger. I now realize my error in posting two seperate messages together. Again: I did NOT leave Penasco because of any particular, definate percieved danger. Had a disagreement with the girlfriend and decided to get out of town.:(:(:(

Why did I post that message? Because there has been a pattern of events recently. It's the pattern. Clearly to me the discrete probablity of violence in Penasco is historically low. But the recent pattern and series gives us some history that offers the option of computing the conditional probability. Take the coin flip analogy. Probablity of heads is 50% each independent flip BUT if youhave the information that there have been 5 Heads in a row, the conditional probability of a tails is very high. That's the way it works I seriously considered posting something similar about a week or two prior to the big event, but talked myself out of it.

Most of the blather here on the forum is just that, blather. Bar room talk to me. That's ok, people enjoy talking about stuff. I would not do anything to stop the blather. Counting the number of bullets shot, number of vehicles, locations, possible shooters, etc. have not contributed to my guesses. The magnitude of the last, yes is important but I was somewhat alerted prior to that due to the pattern.

The pattern of violence suggest, nay predicts, some changeover in control of one or more of the factions controlling the trade here. That's a circumstance that invariably results in a higher probability of violence. Was the same with Mafia. A disagreement that cannot be resolved does not lead to a court case. They do not call the authorities when something is stolen. They take direct action. Most of the time negotiations keep stuff calm.

There is also sometimes a convergence of bits of information which bits individually don't create alarm, but when there are lots of bits ya gotta pay attention. I'ts ike a smell. We've been having a convergence lately. Jerry pays attention to this stuff as well.

I think if it stays calm here into the first couple of weeks of January. things will keep calm. I figure Navidad is a given holiday for everyone. If someone is pissed off the crap might hit the fan in a couple of weeks of the holidays. If things stay calm I'll be a mello fellow, but in between I'll be on yellow alert personally. Am I leaving Penasco? Maybe but has nothing to do with the violence, might have an opportunity in Kino that's attractive to me.

I would say, if you come down in the next 2 or 3 weeks be more alert than usual. If my kids were coming down, I would ask them to wait. Not stay away forever, but just wait a bit. Am I suggesting you never return to Penasco ? Nope. It's like a spate of bad weather, I'm confident we'll come out the other side in good shape.
 
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